Expat family , we escaped the USA, now living in Mexico , here’s the situation... | |
MarkinAZ
User ID: 78587282 United States 07/02/2020 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We were there long enough to learn a bit of Dutch and once learned a language comes back very quickly once you hear it spoken daily again. Having an EU passport gives us the right to live in any EU country we choose - and Holland has some of the best tax rates for investment income compared to the rest of the EU nations or the US. Unless something you have not stated is causing you to leave Mexico, I'd stay put for a few months and see what happens in the world. Your US passports should get you out of Mexico even if they locked down the country again. And you could also choose to go to the middle-east or Egypt and then migrate slowly to Northern Europe if you choose. I have friends who have avoided paying income tax on a substantial investment income for many years by moving from one country to another but never declaring themselves citizens of that nation. While technically a US citizen is taxed on their income world wide - there are types of income and investments that are not taxed by the US but only by the country in which the account/asset is resident. If you have a substantial income that you don't have to earn, then it is well worthwhile to investigate these legal and legitimate ways to avoid the US tax bite while avoiding the taxation of a foreign nation, as well. You become a sort of 'perpetual tourist' and as such you are not taxed in the countries you can 'visit' for six months or a year at a time. Then by leaving the host country for a few weeks, you reset the tourist visa time and it restarts - enabling you to extend you stay for another six months or a year. Remember most of the EU has a 22% VAT tax on everything you buy - so they're getting their fair share of everything except health insurance and groceries and rent or mortgage payments. If you want to buy a home in one of those nations you 'visit' regularly, it can be done thru a trust and you avoid taxation on the house until you sell it - which can be deferred for many years. In many EU countries, unearned income taxation rates start at 45% and can go up to over 70% - so avoiding your exposure to such tax rates can save you a fortune on an income of a few hundred thousand per year or even less! The less you give the government of any nation, the more you can save, invest, spend on yourself and you family, and the easier it is to enjoy your life when you're not concerned about paying for you overhead... To restate: 1. Stay put and see what develops, but make sure you have an exit strategy for getting out in a hurry if you need to. 2. Arrange your affairs to keep you legal tax bite as low as possible. 3. Distribute your sources of income into the countries that a.( you'd actually like to live in and b.) where it is unlikely the government would seize accounts or cash belonging to visitors. This can be as simple as having your brokerage or bank account statements sent to a PO Box in the country you want to claim you live in. |
MarPep
User ID: 79098530 United States 07/02/2020 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Safest place will be where the population is 90% white, speak English, and are Christian---and most all are armed and believers in the US Constitution, and haters of Communism. That's in the heartlands of the USA, not some other place. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78988415 United States 07/02/2020 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] if anything goes down it will be WORLD WIDE. You as a foreigner will be blamed for the bad local conditions. You and you family may pay the price with your lives. Look at what the mobs here are doing and multiply that by 1000 times in another country. America will always be the safest place to be. The second best is in a armed community, full of Americans, overseas. |
Click Here Again
User ID: 77160280 United States 07/02/2020 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a flag on my profile. If I did, it shows Canada. I am in southeast Texas. Has to do with the towers. Why I am bouncing off a Canadian tower? That's the great mystery. Bottom line is that the flags can get weird. If someone is on a proxy, the flag could show anywhere. A fellow Texan! I knew there was more than one reason I liked ya! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77064441 United States 07/02/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been at the border and watched a family try to sell their 4 year old daughter to a 50 year old man, because no matter what he might do with her, at least she had a better chance of eating. They spent their last cordobas on bus tickets and a pretty white dress for her. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the same boat looking for a free place with no forced COVID BS. I lived in Mexico (Puerto Morelos) QR for almost 2 years before coming back to FL in early 2018. Mexico has no real justice system so if you are wronged in anyway forget about it. Also I work remote so a solid internet connection is a must. Quoting: dnr9472 We considers puerto , we like it , especially my little Italy! But we feel it’s too close to Cancun and prolly will be 5 g ed |
MKPitBull
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] All third world countries are beholden to the World Bank and the IMF. They own them. If they say jump, blank country says, "How high'? Nicaragua is socialist. Let that sink in. They can seize your property and assets at any time, unless you know people (that's how that game works). Ecuador, Panama,are all super hardcore on lockdown shit. So is Argentina. You won't get the race riots there, but they will be COVID Nazis. If you could afford Uruguay, that's your best place (IMHO). It's more like Europe than SA. Places like Colombia and Brazil could get very, very dangerous to an American, especially a White American. Costa Rica might be worth exploring, since it's basically been designated as an eco-tourist zone, so a lot of Globalist/Elite types dive, hike, etc., there. But ownership is difficult and as an eco-tourist location, that's their playground and they protect it. Forget El Salvador. Good food, bad MS13. Uraguay has some of the biggest abortion rights , so we won’t do that. The problem is getting in any of these countries in impossible right now, besides Nicaragua. I have not seen people have their property taken in Nicaragua either. And their are private businesses everywhere . But I’m good on income I don’t need to start anything . |
2012Portal
2012Portal - Mayan Beyond 2012 User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 07/02/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Playa del Carmen is lovely, but I guess a bit touristy for you all. From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear: [link to graphicstart.com] --- --- --- "Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior" |
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jlee2027
User ID: 76568830 United States 07/02/2020 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] Plenty of places in say Wyoming or Montana or Idaho or west Texas where no one will bother you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have actually considered moving to Nicaragua as I think very soon Latin America will be safer than the US, and Nicaragua is cheaper to live, although gringos pay more. I don't know if I could take the heat though. Quoting: Peepaws Lots of high ground in Nica. They raise cattle there. Should be possible to get close to a non-gringo price on important things by pitting one seller against another. Where in the mountains of Mx would he go? Playa del Carmen is not in the mountains. Lots of different mountain areas in the country though. What about Colombia? Columbia is one of the strictest lockdowns along with all the countries friendly to the USA . That’s the problem there can’t even get in if we tried. In Mexico our choice would be Guanajuato |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47033834 United Kingdom 07/02/2020 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are pretending you have agency over the stars. You do not. The planet turns, the solar system spins, the galaxy shifts. All countries will lockdown when the health system is at risk. You talk like until Italy that most countries planned to lock down. Literally everything in the world right now is a result of the Italian breakout. All of it. |
Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 07/02/2020 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what’s best for your family is not having a coward, kinda fucked that one up. Your wife will leave you when she realizes you are worthless and whatever land you’re in can already tell you won’t help fortify or defend it so they’ll kill you Quoting: lurker342 Are you feeling extra douchy today? Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] Plenty of places in say Wyoming or Montana or Idaho or west Texas where no one will bother you. Wrong ,u are not allowed to live off the grid in either of those places, they will take your kids . They want u to go through gov for permits for everything from structure to solar design , waste management, drive way permits , wood stove permits the list goes on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Calm down. Quoting: TheElephantInTheRoom 78979657 Go to Belize. But honestly what would make you leave to Mexico from the USA is nuts. If you were leaving CALI I would have just gone to the mountains in Montana. U can not hide anywhere in the USA , they want to take your kids! USA gov had lied to another agency of USA gov to set us up to take our kids . They came to my cabin told me to take apart all plumbing , all electric , the wood stove , everything. Then they waited till they figured I took it all apart and told Human Resources I did not have heat or plumbing , but I did not take the shit apart yet, so the lady said I was told by building dept that u had no heat or plumbing and electric. But obviously u do. She still said we can’t live on my own land . Then a environmental dept bitch told cps a had guns too close to kids ,only thing out was bb gun. they shook us down for all bank account info and everything else , had to fly kids across country and take my cabin apart , permit it as a shed! Sorry we are done with a shit hole that wants our kids DONE! |
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Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 07/02/2020 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have a flag on my profile. If I did, it shows Canada. I am in southeast Texas. Has to do with the towers. Why I am bouncing off a Canadian tower? That's the great mystery. Bottom line is that the flags can get weird. If someone is on a proxy, the flag could show anywhere. Southeast Texas has shown as Canadian for years on numerous fora. 'Must share a subnet on the same carrier that is also used in CA. I'm in central VA, yet my IP is Arlington,VA [Washington DC]. While I have an adblocker, if I see an ad it is for a business in DC and even my web browser shows me as being in Washington. Search for a 'business near me' or use navigation in the truck 'to the nearest...' and I get a location in NOVA or Maryland as the nearest. Personally I like it for the 'confound others' factor. Years ago, when I used to have a flag, I loved getting on a proxy from Mongolia just to freak tards out. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We live in one of the two identified safest areas in the US and would not dream of moving out of country. Best to live in a red neck area where folks believe in owning guns and are patriots then in any large metropolitan city. Owning land in the mountains that has its own water source and trees for fuel is ideal. Quoting: Proud Trump Supporter That’s what we had mountain land 9000 ft up our own stream and spring.if u don’t tell them everything u have and where u have it and have all permits they take your kids ! |
Stoner420
User ID: 78773304 United States 07/02/2020 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A global study on homicide is issued annually by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, which revealed this year that Nicaragua has the lowest homicide rate in Central America with 8.3 murders per 100,000 citizens, [link to www.USE_FULL_LINKwww.telesurenglish.net (secure)] The 8.3 Nicaraguan rate is lower than the US state I live in. CDC Homicide map... [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Don’t feed the trolls! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] Have you thought of Belize and/or Costa Rica? I am not sure what their WuFlu situation is. Both countries look pretty quiet. Never hear about them. Not sure what the immigration status/requirements are. Not sure I would try Panama but those I knew who went there did not complain. Lots of expats in Panama. Probably a good place for business also. Yes horribly strict lockdowns ! Nope not for me |
Ferly
User ID: 78850776 United States 07/02/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] Don't buy anything until you are not in safe place, put your money into an offshore account and rent something. Mexico is very dangerous. Go to "Bestgore" site and watch what's the real life in Mexico, Nicaragua and many other South American countries. If I was you, I will choose to live in: Argentina, Chile, Paraguay or Uruguay. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094350 Mexico 07/02/2020 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A global study on homicide is issued annually by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, which revealed this year that Nicaragua has the lowest homicide rate in Central America with 8.3 murders per 100,000 citizens, Quoting: Stoner420 [link to www.USE_FULL_LINKwww.telesurenglish.net (secure)] The 8.3 Nicaraguan rate is lower than the US state I live in. CDC Homicide map... [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] This is true , murders are rare , quality of life good , and much much cheaper COL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79094159 United Kingdom 07/02/2020 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexico is also fudging number of the covid , Mexico locked everything down just like the USA , we are now free to go out and eat and everything is opened back up. But we fear they could lock down again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79098834 Our goal is to get to a country where the gov of that country did not lock down anything for the people. Nicaragua made absolutely no demands of their people beside borders are closed to non residents unless u get tested for covid within 48 hours of this entry. Now we must make a choice , we could buy a home in the mountains here in Mexico, or we could all get tested down the street (family of 5) (blood test). And escape mexiUsa. Where ever we end up we are buying a home with a little land not in any 5g areas with close neighbors. What would you do , would u trust the test to get to a country that did not lock their people down at all? Testing info here..... [link to www.costamed.com.mx (secure)] Not in any 5G area? musk has put paid to that with the bloody starlinks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74005763 United States 07/02/2020 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm pretty sure that Trump wins in November. I pray that's the case. It would be nice to have four years to flee Babylon. I'm right behind you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79099364 . ~~~~~ All their 5G Weaponry has been installed since March in many Countries/States. They can fire it up & this is a most critical problem. |