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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78097428 Canada 07/13/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78097428 Although the story of Atlantis was an allegory for the might of Athens (not for all the Greeks since they were not a single nation state back then but rather a number of city-states and kingdoms, each state or kingdom would look only themselves and maybe their colonies), it had some truth in it, since there was a city in the Corinthian gulf called Helike that totally sunk by an earthquake during the lifetime of Plato, probably inspiring his tale. Some argue that the myth might have to do with the Thera island (known nowadays as Santorini) but the idea that they would remember a thing that took place ages before the Ancient Greek dark ages period (aka fall of the Mycenaean civilization) is probably an exaggeration. Greek myth mentions Athens as a tributary of Crete, see the story of the Minotaur. So i doubt Plato would mistake any of those pre-Mycenean civilizations for Atlantis. Definitely no, I don't think that Plato would mix up Atlantis with any of the pre-Mycenean civilizations (Minoan or Minyan) but it is possible that the destruction of Helike was an inspiration for his Atlantis story. Then why the roundabout way talking about Egyptian sources ? I agree with the other poster though, too. It is a political allegory aimed at uniting Greeks against the common foe in the West, Carthage. Maybe because that would make it more passable as it would explain the total lack of previous knowledge of the story by the Atheneans, like a forgotten history event that was attested as true by the priests of a very old nation that haven't got destroyed as Greece was by the Sea People. |
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(OP) User ID: 78888548 Japan 07/13/2020 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever. Quoting: Ordovician List of lost works: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance Although the story of Atlantis was an allegory for the might of Athens (not for all the Greeks since they were not a single nation state back then but rather a number of city-states and kingdoms, each state or kingdom would look only themselves and maybe their colonies), it had some truth in it, since there was a city in the Corinthian gulf called Helike that totally sunk by an earthquake during the lifetime of Plato, probably inspiring his tale. Some argue that the myth might have to do with the Thera island (known nowadays as Santorini) but the idea that they would remember a thing that took place ages before the Ancient Greek dark ages period (aka fall of the Mycenaean civilization) is probably an exaggeration. Thera (Santorini) fits Plato's description of a circular (atol) harbor and the Antlanteans were probably the Minoans,,,who's ancientness wasn't that long given oral history time distances, just 1000-1200 years prior and still told of. The waves made it to Egypt. Epicurianism is very close to Chinese Taoism, NOT summed up as a "life of pleasure" or food enjoying. But that might be a result... It's a life in harmony with Nature and it introduced Atomic theory, said that atoms have tendencies it is best to cooperate with, not battle. It said you are wasting your time feeling self conscious and self judging according to someone else's concept of reality or purpose. It said that life was it's own purpose. Lots of what we have left of the Greeks was preserved by the early Muslims. In Muslim Spain there was an effort to translate the remaining works, and clerics of 3 religions worked together sometimes to get a result in Latin, later discovered by Medieval document hunters. That's why we got Lucretius the foremost Epicurian poet. That launched The Enlightenment. For awhile the only place in the world to get an education was Baghdad. (I learned that from my dad in the 60s who was a Shriner and a Goldwater Republican) Don’t forget all these fellows in your list... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976236 United States 07/13/2020 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72976236 I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance Although the story of Atlantis was an allegory for the might of Athens (not for all the Greeks since they were not a single nation state back then but rather a number of city-states and kingdoms, each state or kingdom would look only themselves and maybe their colonies), it had some truth in it, since there was a city in the Corinthian gulf called Helike that totally sunk by an earthquake during the lifetime of Plato, probably inspiring his tale. Some argue that the myth might have to do with the Thera island (known nowadays as Santorini) but the idea that they would remember a thing that took place ages before the Ancient Greek dark ages period (aka fall of the Mycenaean civilization) is probably an exaggeration. I'm pretty sure in one of my earlier posts I mentioned that the Greeks were a bronze age group of tribes Of course they were not 1 distinct people but a group of tribes Using the term Greek is just all-encompassing Of course they were a group of tribes. After all a nation is exactly that, a group of people usually speaking the same language or dialects of the same language, having probably a genetic affinity, having the same religion and beliefs and a common denominator of a common history. Greece was and is a very difficult place to live in since it is mountainous and with few fertile lands for growing food or herding animals, thus it was impossible to have a central point of governance and the city-states and kingdoms would fight each other for controlling these resources or the sea routes that were vital for their survival. Of course. Many nations are the same way The Germanic tribes we're all separate but all shared a genetic legacy, cultural legacy and linguistic legacy Which could unite them whenever they wanted, but they usually just wanted to stay tribal |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14140898 United States 07/13/2020 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Queen Cleopatra wanted to be the most learned woman and studied with King Solomon for five months when she visited one account says The Library of Alexandria May have contained the wisdom of Solomon himself as it was her library She was not the Elizabeth Taylor character portrayed in films |
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Dalek Uno User ID: 79143812 Germany 07/13/2020 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dalek Uno 79143812 Greek myth mentions Athens as a tributary of Crete, see the story of the Minotaur. So i doubt Plato would mistake any of those pre-Mycenean civilizations for Atlantis. Definitely no, I don't think that Plato would mix up Atlantis with any of the pre-Mycenean civilizations (Minoan or Minyan) but it is possible that the destruction of Helike was an inspiration for his Atlantis story. Then why the roundabout way talking about Egyptian sources ? I agree with the other poster though, too. It is a political allegory aimed at uniting Greeks against the common foe in the West, Carthage. Maybe because that would make it more passable as it would explain the total lack of previous knowledge of the story by the Atheneans, like a forgotten history event that was attested as true by the priests of a very old nation that haven't got destroyed as Greece was by the Sea People. It is purported actual history vs myth Greek or Barbarian of any form. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79136985 Greece 07/13/2020 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Half Past Midnight Look at us today, antifa/blm tribe at war with normal advanced civilized people. And if they really wanted to start a war, we would decimate them in f****** two days The Greeks were bronze age, While the atlanteans were supposedly an advanced super civilization There is literally zero chance the Greeks could beat them in a war. But it was an allegory about Greek dominance over the known world So of course they beat the atlanteans You said that you are a historian specifically in Greek history so you can fully understand Greek language is that correct? There are different dialects of Greek but yes I can read Greek This is a lecture from a Greek professor of Geophysics. food for thought [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75203286 United States 07/13/2020 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever. Quoting: Ordovician List of lost works: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance LOL, I always love a good tale of revisionist history! I have heard a rumor that many many cities had these statues commemorating when this oppressed class of people was suppressed and some great warriors got together and released them from their suffering at such a great cost. Stories of brother vs brother. But our 'scholars' tell us that we are 'misinformed'. In your opinion, could this possibly be true? I'm sure you have a magnificent view of history from your couch. It's a wonderful soapbox! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976236 United States 07/13/2020 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever. Quoting: Ordovician List of lost works: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance LOL, I always love a good tale of revisionist history! I have heard a rumor that many many cities had these statues commemorating when this oppressed class of people was suppressed and some great warriors got together and released them from their suffering at such a great cost. Stories of brother vs brother. But our 'scholars' tell us that we are 'misinformed'. In your opinion, could this possibly be true? I'm sure you have a magnificent view of history from your couch. It's a wonderful soapbox! Conspiracies are fun to talk about with friends. That doesn't mean they're all based in reality Being an author is nothing new. Neither is being a fiction author. Plato wrote one of the first science fiction books How uneducated are you really, that you believe in this ancient anti diluvian civilization, that fought the bronze age Greeks? The Greeks fought them according to Plato. And we have thousands of years of Greek history, and guess what... They never fought an anti diluvian civilization In fact they won that war supposedly! Tell me how a bronze age civilization could beat a advanced civilization in warfare? It's physically impossible It was an allegory about Greek, Athenian dominance over the world This is the kind of stuff that set humans back because retards like you teach their children that this is real When there is no basis for it in reality It was a book about Greek pride |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78607611 United States 07/13/2020 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever. Quoting: Ordovician List of lost works: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance OK, maybe, but... There are books written today as "fiction" that are historical fact based, but the persecution if written as truth would be too much. Just ask Whitley Striber for one. I met another author by chance in a bookstore who wrote about the shadow government as fiction, but he told me everything was based on fact. |
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(OP) User ID: 78888548 Japan 07/13/2020 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There could have been a small Atlantan civilization in the middle of the Mediterranean on now-submerged land that was only slightly more advanced, and Plato just exaggerated about them being a super-state. It’s not inconceivable that such a culture, being isolated island-dwellers, developed their own complex “lore” that might have seemed fascinating or exotic to more “connnected” civilizations. Maybe they wrote sci-fi about themselves. You should read about the Crazy war-weapons of Shambala cooked up by isolated Tibetan imaginations. |
Crazy Horse The Prophet User ID: 78346252 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nefertari [daughter of man Red Race] fancied Moses [half Red & White son of man], Ramses [sons of Belial and men] become jealous and threw Moses in the wilderness expecting Moses to die, but Yahweh was with Moses. Their firstborn child was also soulless beast of the earth. And they broke the Law of One the great Ra is the Law of the Sun by allowing intermingling with son of man and sons of men and soulless beasts of the earth. And there was namy names named after many genius, philosophers, prophets and the like. C1-Q62 Alas! What a great loss there will be to learning before the cycle of the Moon is completed. Fire, great floods, by more ignorant rulers; how long the centuries until it is seen to be restored. B: He says that has a multiple meaning. One meaning is that during the time of troubles, during the earth changes, in all the countries, the fundamentalist sects of the various religions will become very powerful, claiming to offer people the comfort they need to get through the hard times. He says he does not care what religion these sects are affiliated with, be it Muslim or Christian or Shinto or what-have-you. These fundamentalist sects always suppress learning and education so there will be great censorship of books and such. He says that is one meaning of the quatrain. Another meaning of this quatrain refers to the sacking of the Vatican Library by the Anti-Christ. It will bring to light information and facts and knowledge that have been suppressed for several centuries. He says that, ironically, in a way the Anti-Christ will be doing a good thing by ransacking the Vatican Library because later on that knowledge, which has been suppressed for centuries, will be open to the whole world and available for everyone to use. He says even though the Anti-Christ goes about it the wrong way and uses violence to accomplish his ends, the fact that he does release this knowledge to the world will help him by starting the beginning of the cycle of his working off this karma, and working towards a higher level of karma. D: I suppose that is something in his favor anyhow. Far less than 50% Conversations With Nostradamus Vol 1 [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976236 United States 07/13/2020 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever. Quoting: Ordovician List of lost works: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance OK, maybe, but... There are books written today as "fiction" that are historical fact based, but the persecution if written as truth would be too much. Just ask Whitley Striber for one. I met another author by chance in a bookstore who wrote about the shadow government as fiction, but he told me everything was based on fact. Fact means provable. There could be no book about a shadow government that is based on fact There could be a book based on that guy's opinion and his research We have thousands of years of Greek history. the Greeks never fought an advanced civilization, let alone beat them in warfare But Plato had a lot of pride, and he thought that Athenians and Greeks were the master people So what better way to spread that thought, then to write a book in allegory about how an advanced civilization couldn't even take down the bronze age Athenians Bronze age tribes, vs super advanced civilization. It's a science fiction book |
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Dalek Uno User ID: 79143812 Germany 07/13/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There could have been a small Atlantan civilization in the middle of the Mediterranean on now-submerged land that was only slightly more advanced, and Plato just exaggerated about them being a super-state. It’s not inconceivable that such a culture, being isolated island-dwellers, developed their own complex “lore” that might have seemed fascinating or exotic to more “connnected” civilizations. Maybe they wrote sci-fi about themselves. You should read about the Crazy war-weapons of Shambala cooked up by isolated Tibetan imaginations. Quoting: Ordovician :shrug: Before Schliemann, everyone believed the Illiad to be pure myth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10313197 United States 07/13/2020 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plato is quite insistent that his Isle of Atlantis is not myth, but was veritable fact. At that time, the Richat Structure in Africa would have been an island surrounded by concentric circles of water inlets just as Plato describes. I understand that rivisionist history as taught in universities today in humanities departments seek to mythologize all ancient history, nonetheless, the record of Plato remains and flies boldly in the face of modern narratives. Critias, Plato This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which you call the Columns of Heracles (the Strait of Gibraltar, known as the Pillars of Hercules): the island was larger than Libya and Asia (Turkey) put together, and was the way to other islands, and from the islands you might pass through the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbor, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a continent. Now, in the island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire, which had rule over the whole island and several others, as well as over parts of the continent; and, besides these, they subjected the parts of Libya within the Columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia (Italy). The vast power thus gathered into one, endeavored to subdue at one blow our country and yours, and the whole of the land which was within the straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind; for she was the first in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjected, and freely liberated all the others who dwelt within the limits of Heracles. But afterward there occurred violent earthquakes and floods, and in a single day and night of rain all your warlike men in a body sunk into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared, and was sunk beneath the sea. And that is the reason why the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is such a quantity of shallow mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976236 United States 07/13/2020 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plato is quite insistent that his Isle of Atlantis is not myth, but was veritable fact. At that time, the Richat Structure in Africa would have been an island surrounded by concentric circles of water inlets just as Plato describes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10313197 I understand that rivisionist history as taught in universities today in humanities departments seek to mythologize all ancient history, nonetheless, the record of Plato remains and flies boldly in the face of modern narratives. Critias, Plato This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which you call the Columns of Heracles (the Strait of Gibraltar, known as the Pillars of Hercules): the island was larger than Libya and Asia (Turkey) put together, and was the way to other islands, and from the islands you might pass through the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbor, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a continent. Now, in the island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire, which had rule over the whole island and several others, as well as over parts of the continent; and, besides these, they subjected the parts of Libya within the Columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia (Italy). The vast power thus gathered into one, endeavored to subdue at one blow our country and yours, and the whole of the land which was within the straits; and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind; for she was the first in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjected, and freely liberated all the others who dwelt within the limits of Heracles. But afterward there occurred violent earthquakes and floods, and in a single day and night of rain all your warlike men in a body sunk into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared, and was sunk beneath the sea. And that is the reason why the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is such a quantity of shallow mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island. That doesn't prove anything. It was a science fiction book Science fiction writers write their book under the guise that it's real. They don't say hey Star wars is fake but here's this world I created they say a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.. making it sound real The conspiracy that academics hides the truth is the biggest BS lie in world history. Academics don't suppress knowledge, they spend their life and all their money trying to find truth It literally makes no sense to cover it up. If a grackle scholar founded Atlantis tomorrow it would be world headlines, and it wouldn't be covered up But dingbatz like you who have no actual education, think we hide and make everything up |
Svetogor User ID: 78589715 Poland 07/13/2020 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allegedly the Egyptians had pennicillin or some similar analogue and Flemming didn't rediscover it until 1928. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69901543 There were reports that scholars and scribes dashed out carrying scrolls and saved somebut they died from their burns as they desperately tried to salvage. Think how long it took for a scribe to copy and so scholars would go there and make their own as otherwise, one would just have the knowledge. Ideas like the Earth is round have their origins to those ancient times. Apparently, horse riders from the steppe knew tetraciclin already in ancient times. The destruction of the library was likely meant to hide one thing - that civilization came from the North. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79144363 United States 07/13/2020 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many rumors that Rome sacked that library and removed the books to Rome - which would be in the Vatican basement now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14140898 It is said there are FOUR MILES of BOOKSHELVES in the Vatican basement not like you could read any of the books, none of them are in english. would be pretty cool if they used the computer translators to translate and upload to internet that burning down the museum in Brazil was a wake up call. for a few thousand dollars they could have made the building fireproof. just watching that show American PIckers, the value of that stuff in the Museums to people who really love that stuff, it's priceless. Bezos donates $10 billion to global warming hoax but a museum housing the history of south america goes up in flames there was one of the only full teradactyle skeletons in the world there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78020158 United States 07/13/2020 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72976236 I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world. They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance Although the story of Atlantis was an allegory for the might of Athens (not for all the Greeks since they were not a single nation state back then but rather a number of city-states and kingdoms, each state or kingdom would look only themselves and maybe their colonies), it had some truth in it, since there was a city in the Corinthian gulf called Helike that totally sunk by an earthquake during the lifetime of Plato, probably inspiring his tale. Some argue that the myth might have to do with the Thera island (known nowadays as Santorini) but the idea that they would remember a thing that took place ages before the Ancient Greek dark ages period (aka fall of the Mycenaean civilization) is probably an exaggeration. Thera (Santorini) fits Plato's description of a circular (atol) harbor and the Antlanteans were probably the Minoans,,,who's ancientness wasn't that long given oral history time distances, just 1000-1200 years prior and still told of. The waves made it to Egypt. Epicurianism is very close to Chinese Taoism, NOT summed up as a "life of pleasure" or food enjoying. But that might be a result... It's a life in harmony with Nature and it introduced Atomic theory, said that atoms have tendencies it is best to cooperate with, not battle. It said you are wasting your time feeling self conscious and self judging according to someone else's concept of reality or purpose. It said that life was it's own purpose. Lots of what we have left of the Greeks was preserved by the early Muslims. In Muslim Spain there was an effort to translate the remaining works, and clerics of 3 religions worked together sometimes to get a result in Latin, later discovered by Medieval document hunters. That's why we got Lucretius the foremost Epicurian poet. That launched The Enlightenment. For awhile the only place in the world to get an education was Baghdad. (I learned that from my dad in the 60s who was a Shriner and a Goldwater Republican) Don’t forget all these fellows in your list... [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Clement of Alexandria included the Druids, so the Old School was pretty wide before the simplified state religion and simplified false history came along. Did anyone ask Clement what happened?. I think it was one snafu after another over a few years. Like most things. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72976236 United States 07/13/2020 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allegedly the Egyptians had pennicillin or some similar analogue and Flemming didn't rediscover it until 1928. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69901543 There were reports that scholars and scribes dashed out carrying scrolls and saved somebut they died from their burns as they desperately tried to salvage. Think how long it took for a scribe to copy and so scholars would go there and make their own as otherwise, one would just have the knowledge. Ideas like the Earth is round have their origins to those ancient times. Apparently, horse riders from the steppe knew tetraciclin already in ancient times. The destruction of the library was likely meant to hide one thing - that civilization came from the North. Steppe riders were way after the Mesopotamian civilizations and the Egyptian civilizations that started the advancement of humans At the fall of the ice age ancient Man started making their way up North. They did not start there because it was covered in glaciers |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79144363 United States 07/13/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many rumors that Rome sacked that library and removed the books to Rome - which would be in the Vatican basement now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14140898 It is said there are FOUR MILES of BOOKSHELVES in the Vatican basement not like you could read any of the books, none of them are in english. would be pretty cool if they used the computer translators to translate and upload to internet that burning down the museum in Brazil was a wake up call. for a few thousand dollars they could have made the building fireproof. just watching that show American PIckers, the value of that stuff in the Museums to people who really love that stuff, it's priceless. Bezos donates $10 billion to global warming hoax but a museum housing the history of south america goes up in flames there was one of the only full teradactyle skeletons in the world there. just the fact this brazil national museum was the house of the Brazilian royal family, and they donated it to the public, to everyone. who burns down something that was donated to everyone?? now we see these anti colonial protests worldwide, hard to believe this was some big accident. and that the firehydrants were turned off. couple this with what's going on with the US/globalist mercs in Iraq, middle east, destroying the history of the Shia and sunni muslims, all their most important shrines. destroying ancient Iraqi history, 4000 year old civilizations. ask yourself what is going on?? im tellin you this is something a lot bigger than you understand. they want to WIPE out human memory. because memory is what you ARE. your PHYSICAL BODY is MEMORY. |