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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78206162 Latvia 07/15/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. Yeah, well. That's a common neo-Marxist position taught in many universities. Looks like we'll fight another civil war to keep neo-Marxist from running the country. I say burn all the neo-Marxists and dump their ashes in the ocean. Commies shouldn't be allowed to desecrate American soil. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 78899308 Canada 07/15/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her I think the patriots need to stand up and not allow it, surround that area and she needs to be removed from office and egged out the door. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 07/15/2020 09:03 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
BigNuts
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. WRONG No one "took" the black hills 9 tribes call it the sacred center of the universe. |
Kalona
User ID: 79054127 United States 07/15/2020 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Can I ask you a question, when Democrat president Andrew Johnson pardoned all confederate veterans and returned their US citizenship, did that still mean they were enemies of the United States? No, but I would say anyone that died fighting the Union WAS an enemy when they died, who died a dishonorable death committing treason. So I guess George and the rest of the founding fathers and all the men that died fighting for independence were all committing treason against the crown? Do you see how retarded you are? Epstein didn’t kill himself. |
Malu nli
User ID: 13473921 United States 07/15/2020 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 Condescending little prick. We won because you assholes were so busy killing each other , you couldn’t stop our superiority. Now cowboy the fuck up and quit your bitching Pocahontas You "won" because you brought disease with you and killed 95% of us with it, and killed all the game, and made agreements you did not keep. If you are still here we have not won. Time to get the party started |
RepublicofTexas
User ID: 78822484 United States 07/15/2020 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Not a good idea, this is where hagfish come from. Make America Strong Again Make America Sexy Again I'm fukken this monkey, you just shut up and hold the tail." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. Yeah, well. That's a common neo-Marxist position taught in many universities. Looks like we'll fight another civil war to keep neo-Marxist from running the country. I say burn all the neo-Marxists and dump their ashes in the ocean. Commies shouldn't be allowed to desecrate American soil. The vast majority of whites were extremely oppressed by free labor of slavery There was NO middle class in the south. You were either rich, poor or a slave. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76920316 United States 07/15/2020 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76920316 No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. Yes, much like one tribe did to another, for 1,000s of years. There was never any honor. Your Hallmark greeting card version of life never existed. You know nothing of our history, shit for brains. You dont even know your own. Oh, I actually know quite a bit. I'm not some sad-sack cry baby whining about ancient history. Go get a job and shut the fuck up. Nobody gives a shit, Weezer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46156487 United States 07/15/2020 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76920316 No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. WRONG No one "took" the black hills 9 tribes call it the sacred center of the universe. Right. SO it didn't belong to anybody. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78298045 United States 07/15/2020 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, supposedly, that cemetery has a lot of bodies of children buried underneath. Could it be that Warren and whoever else is pushing this, is actually on Trump's side and wants the graves dug up so they can find the evidence? The timing of this seems so strange, as it's at the same time as Ghislane getting arrested, and #WayfairGate being exposed. I just have a feeling this all might be part of the plan to continue to bust open in the public the real truths about the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78298045 Just my 2 cents. And the reason that Warren might do this, is because they have dirt on her and she given a choice.. do this or you will be exposed. Trump and co would want this to come for the left, not someone on the right. Just thinking outside of the box on this one... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 Condescending little prick. We won because you assholes were so busy killing each other , you couldn’t stop our superiority. Now cowboy the fuck up and quit your bitching Pocahontas You "won" because you brought disease with you and killed 95% of us with it, and killed all the game, and made agreements you did not keep. If you are still here we have not won. Time to get the party started 400,000,000 of us Amerindians in the Americas, shit for brains Be careful what you wish for. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76920316 United States 07/15/2020 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76920316 No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. No one "took" the black hills 9 tribes call it the sacred center of the universe. Kind of like your mom's ass. |
Michibama
User ID: 78437117 United States 07/15/2020 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. *losers. Douchebag. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46156487 United States 07/15/2020 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76920316 No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. WRONG No one "took" the black hills 9 tribes call it the sacred center of the universe. It's quite fitting then that busts of Washington and Lincoln are displayed there. |
Philly Special
User ID: 79040168 United States 07/15/2020 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. LOL, comparing soldiers fighting for their state with one of the top 5 mass murderers of all time is quite the false equivalence. Stop trying to view the past through the lens of today. People of that time were much more loyal to their state than the fed govt. They were all given a choice, betray country or betray state. They knew if they betrayed their state, they could never set foot there again. That was a big deal, one that most in this country can not understand. Your state was your family, your home, your identity. Yes, they were traitors. After the war was over, the decision was made (for the sake of brevity) not to treat them as such, for the sake of the nation. It's completely conceivable that had the fed govt executed a large number of Confederates, we would have been right back in another civil war in 10-20 years. Because our country doesn't work like others, that genocide the losers and their sympathizers, cover it all over, and carry on with the regime. |
Big Duke6
User ID: 78331582 Canada 07/15/2020 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Dad is a WWII vet and both of my parents are buried at a National Cemetery. This sets a horrible precedent. What happens when someone decides the War he fought in was wrong and decides to desecrate my parent's graves? They already are showing no respect to the flag, the national anthem...at what point do they start destroying the graves of all our veterans? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79121563 it seems we're at that point! I'd suggest people start checking them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 07/15/2020 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gucky Can I ask you a question, when Democrat president Andrew Johnson pardoned all confederate veterans and returned their US citizenship, did that still mean they were enemies of the United States? No, but I would say anyone that died fighting the Union WAS an enemy when they died, who died a dishonorable death committing treason. Democrats thought otherwise and passed laws in 1929 and 1958 honoring Confederates. I'm not a democrat, shit for brains In fact I dont partake in your bi polar politics. Only an idiot would The Democrats started the Civil War, their entire party should have been disbanded in 1865. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78298045 United States 07/15/2020 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, supposedly, that cemetery has a lot of bodies of children buried underneath. Could it be that Warren and whoever else is pushing this, is actually on Trump's side and wants the graves dug up so they can find the evidence? The timing of this seems so strange, as it's at the same time as Ghislane getting arrested, and #WayfairGate being exposed. I just have a feeling this all might be part of the plan to continue to bust open in the public the real truths about the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78298045 Just my 2 cents. Interesting thought, but Elizabeth Warren has proven herself to be a liar. She's full of it, willing to follow any road that gets her more popularity, whether that's lying about her background, or wanting to desecrate the graves of Americans. F her and the Indian she claims to have ridden in on. Of course, I totally agree with you 100%. I'm just thinking outside of the box, and maybe they have dirt on her and gave her a choice to either come out and do this, or she'll be exposed. Might be a YUGE stretch, but that was what popped up in my mind after reading it. Remember, Flynn knows where the bodies are buried, and now he's free. Just really interesting timing... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. WRONG No one "took" the black hills 9 tribes call it the sacred center of the universe. Right. SO it didn't belong to anybody. Not by Indian law. By Indian law the land was held collectively but never owned. It belongs to the Lakotah nation now because the US government ratified the treaty that says it does in the Senate and the President signed it. The US Supreme court upheld it in 1980. Recently in the past several days, the supreme court ruled the treaties made by the US government with Indian nations were binding treaties by US Constitutional law. Are you really conservative? DO you know what it means? If you do you have to honor the US Constitution, EVEN THE PARTS THAT DONT SUIT YOU . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. WRONG No one "took" the black hills 9 tribes call it the sacred center of the universe. It's quite fitting then that busts of Washington and Lincoln are displayed there. Quite fitting to whom? A white supremacist psychopath that likes to twist a knife driven in our backs? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78298045 United States 07/15/2020 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, supposedly, that cemetery has a lot of bodies of children buried underneath. Could it be that Warren and whoever else is pushing this, is actually on Trump's side and wants the graves dug up so they can find the evidence? The timing of this seems so strange, as it's at the same time as Ghislane getting arrested, and #WayfairGate being exposed. I just have a feeling this all might be part of the plan to continue to bust open in the public the real truths about the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78298045 Just my 2 cents. Interesting thought, but Elizabeth Warren has proven herself to be a liar. She's full of it, willing to follow any road that gets her more popularity, whether that's lying about her background, or wanting to desecrate the graves of Americans. F her and the Indian she claims to have ridden in on. Another point... Warren DEFINITELY also 'knows' that is 'where the bodies are buried'. There's no way she's not aware of this. All the Elites would crush her for wanting the graves to be dug up, if there is any truth that that is where the bodies of children are buried.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 07/15/2020 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. |
BigNuts
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. The only thing the civil war really means to me is that for 5 years you fuckers were too busy killing each other to kill us. I speak from an "american" perspective which is not mine when I condemn the CSA as traitors. If they'd won the war for confederate independence we'd probably have been able to hold you fuckers off, too. |
Big Duke6
User ID: 78331582 Canada 07/15/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. You just described every War that ever was |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 07/15/2020 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. Question: how does any for the lack of a better term "state" join the Union? Extra Bonus question: wouldn't the legal means for secession the same basic process in reverse? |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 07/15/2020 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a nasty, petty, pathetically useless pandering duncecap halfwit she is... smh. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan And those are her good points. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. Question: how does any for the lack of a better term "state" join the Union? Extra Bonus question: wouldn't the legal means for secession the same basic process in reverse? The started circumventing the US Constitution before the fucking ink was dry on it. It IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a huge lie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76920316 United States 07/15/2020 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so. The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States). This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government. |