If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?

Because the government owns everything and can sell to the US for cheaper then we can make it because we pay our employees fair wages and don’t sell crap that’s cheap shit that breaks or is made of fake material like Chinese Sheetrock that is worse for you then Asbestos or fake rice just saying

It's a good thing we can just fire up the printing press to print more then.

Let's not forget the highest corporate tax rate in the world along with an almost 30% payroll tax. If your a business owner, which place makes the most sense to operate financially?

You’re already in one buddy. Don’t let these “conservatives”, who now expect stimulus handouts, to tell you otherwise. This country is done.

you havent heard that we in the uas have been subsidizing their "free" healthcare ?

You are our Daddy and our Mommy.

Europe has been at this a lot longer and we need to understand the systems better. They have rebellion but it's not as toxic.

Canada is such a new country, yet under the Crown they get the process of serving the needs of the people better.

America is a dinosaur, and we have much to learn and mountains to move.

Holland is the best of the lot from my perspective, they get it.

AFAIK, there is no socialist nation on the planet. I don't think even Venezuela has a Central Planning Department, which is cornerstone to a Socialist economy.

They are all welfare States that tax the ever-living shit out of their citizens, to give to other citizens in the form of some type of welfare.

The closest ever was the USSR and China as those 2 countries had actual central planning departments. In the early days of the USSR, they even used the Marxian economic ideology (which is a total f-ing joke) called the Labor Theory of Value.

Millions died.

Depends on who you are, your age and circumstances.

Generally, if you're young, MOVE TO CHINA. The 21st century will be the China century; you'll be going with a rising tide, ever richer and more powerful, for the rest of your days. And you will live to see China go from partial socialism (today) to full socialism, and later in the century to authentic communism, once they have developed enough to allow it. It will be a wonderful place to be. Best on earth. And far far better than the then-collapsed, neo-feudal West, especially the U.S.

If you're old, it isn't worth trying. Learning a new language, the difficulty of the physical move, etc., etc.

Also depends to an extent on circumstances, i.e. do you have the money for such a radical project? If you're poor, it will be too difficult to make the transition, between moving costs, getting established, long period to learn language and develop new social circle, and so forth. You probably should not attempt it with less than, say, $100K in the bank, plus some in-demand tech or other skills to build a career. (China's partial socialism does NOT mean that you simply show up and suddenly all your bills are paid, forever!)

If I were young, I would certainly move. But I am old. I'll just have to hunker down and take the breaks here.

In BOTH the USSR and China, life expectancy more than doubled within a generation of the respective revolutions. Many hundreds of millions LIVED that would otherwise have DIED.
This is unarguable statistical fact, even though you never heard it before. (Gee, I wonder WHY you never heard it before? lol)

Canada.Landed immigration card already in my fireproof safe.But,our socialist medicare is better.

^ lol at this guy.

"ZOMG, you guise... 100s of millions commies (which, BTW, are not human) lived longer because their respective central planning department decided to allow their slaves to use indoor plumbing."

Go away commie. Remember, it's 'down the road; not across'.

You likely live in a country that isn't the world's police, or Israel's private army, Likely, the extent of your tax dollars actually goes to the things you need them to go to. Wouldn't be the case here. That's why people are opposed to more taxes, because it doesn't always lead to better service.

On a smaller scale, cities in the US rack up tax bills to pay for social programs and chase businesses out, leaving urban decay in it's wake, so that hasn't played out too well either.

Most of the European countries who have thrived off a 40% tax rate and received services like you did, have been homogenous. As more and more migrants arrive and begin to eat away at your taxes, the level of service will ultimately decrease.

This has nothing to do with greed at all. In our nation, and I am sure it is true where you live, over half of the money allocated to social services, and used for administration costs and it is worse for the homeless. I've read reports that only 10% of the money allocated to help the homeless, makes it to those that are homeless.

90% is waste.

And then you have taxpayer funded lifetime pensions that are unsustainable, going to these very same people that were already consuming 90% of the taxpayer money to help with the social service. And to add insult to injury, these people who make a living on tax money, pay taxes on that taxed money, creating a constant blackhole on the value of that money. That % of money never becomes exposed to the market.

Stealing money from me, to give to someone else, is not charity. It's theft and it allows an entire subset of people to continue to do as little as possible, because they know something will always be there for them.

Nationalist Socialism is better than being raped by duel passport wielding capitalist.

The real answer is that unrestrained capitalism is not much better than straight-up communism for the little guy.

Multinational corporations will jump at the chance of employing slave labor in foreign nations of they are allowed to dump workers like a turd to gather slaves elsewhere and then be allowed to bring their products back home to sell at vastly increased profit margins.

The laws and tariffs that made America great have been either ignored or eliminated.

You also forgot about stopping their citizens from leaving. China uses citizens to find tech from around the world to bring back for the benefit of the country and rewards certain individuals that it allows to make money in the Govt sponsored business ventures. Don't ever believe a business n China can exist or be successful without Government approval and backing.

If China is so good then Hong Kong would be welcoming their control.

Nice statement. Anything to back it up? Any examples? Are you talking Nazi Germany and Italy?

Not entirely, not until anyone in a capitalist country can go out and claim some land and build their own cabin/perma-culture garden/orchard and chicken coops freely; without money or punishment.