If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?

I was playing devil's advocate as well as the opposite view.

2 sides in the same post.

Sarcasm and truth.

I would rather eat a diseased US chicken than a 3 legged chicken from the former soviet union.

Have any of you people ever been to some of these places? Not the nice hotels and restaurants but what the average Joe gets??

In 1995 I spent time in the old Soviet Union looking to buy some of their industry when they were privatizing it. Everything was a different world. The people who worked at the companies had all their meals at work and never ever got to go out for a meal somewhere. We took them out to a restaurant one night and they thought all their Christmases had come at once.

Wow....the stupidest comment I’ve seen on here in a while? First, China is COMMUNIST. Second, sadly we look the other way for cheap prices while they allow slave labor to provide the products. Because the people have NO RIGHTS.

You must be a child. If so, I guess missing all this schooling would be an excuse.

germany, austria, nordic states. all of them are oppressive communist regimes (not joking)

sarcasm is always hard to notice when typing......

unless Kamala are Fearless can do wat Bernie can do than im aplying for perminent resdence in North Korea. North Korea bestess Korea!!

















[sarcasm .. duh]

No, my guess is that's the product of our wonderful, socialist, higher education system. It's a perfect representation of what they have been churning out for the last 50 years. Disgusting, isn't it?

That is true.

Do we have an easily-recognizable sarcasm smiley on here?

Seen many many misinterpretations of people's posts over the years. The sarcasm gets lost.

Myself, I favor a certain degree of regulated capitalism with a graduated taxation that is primarily used to fund new small businesses.

Your high-income taxes will go to allow others to start their own small business.

Of course, I would never be ALLOWED to be elected (SELECTED) by the Powers That Be, would I???

We can only have 2 tiers in the US:

Super-rich and a sea of the impoverished working class.

Not. In. My. America.

Taxes should be optional. If you feel so strongly about paying taxes, go do it. No reason to force it on everyone else.

[lines 4 and 5 were sarcasm.]

Some taxes are necessary to pay for the TRULY (NON-scamming) injured and disabled.

You're going to let them suffer and die?

The other taxes go for turbo-charging and feeding entrepreneurship back into the system.

Good luck getting elected on ZERO TAXES then...

The United States, socialism is alive and well here, unfortunately. I'll tell you what, I'll pay for half of their airfare to Australia, you pick up the other half of the airfare, and we ship all of our socialists to you making Australia one big giant socialist orgy. That way you have to move, neither do I and everyone's happy.

Although are you sure you want that responsibility? Socialists don't really do a whole lot except lay around, shit, and eat. They stink and just make a general mess out of their habitat.

Scotland

No problem. Then I guess you live in a cave like a hermit and never benefit from social services and infrastructure?

Or are the type of guy who leaves the restaurant without paying?

It grew because lobbyists wanted in on the action.
Lets look at a big ticket item.

"Defense Spending"

Retired Generals, Lobbyists and Politicians expanded defense spending with tons contracts.

The same thing with healthcare.
It was a small program until healthcare lobbyists wanted to expand the programs.

because how you complete with SLAVE LABOR

Venezuela is best but China is the end goal of socialism and it ain’t to bad right?

Who gives a shit. This world is just about over.

End times mother f....er!!!!

The way you see who really owns the government is when you threaten to remove lobbyists and bankers.

The corporate and banking lobbyists and their lawyers flood Washington DC like an army ready to kill any politician that goes against them.

These same goons also flood the media with rhetoric about anyone against their lobbying and crony capitalism are pot smoking commies.

We didn’t have social security at one point and we were better for it and we still took care of those in need. Just face it. Socialism and communism are for inferiors.

The reason liberals/communists are pro taxes is because they don’t pay anything. It always the non lazy in society who pay the majority of taxes for nonsensical social programs. If taxes became optional it would be fair because liberals would have to start paying taxes to support programs they want.

A lot of todays self avowed Capitalists are evil back stabbers.
They will tell you all the participants in a free market have free choice and the right to negotiate pay and organize for it even.

Then they go to Commie China where those rights do not exist for workers.
They kill off unions in order to cripple the workers.
They hire illegals that will work under the table.
They bring in slaves from India that will work cheap and threaten to deport them if they cause a scene.

Scotland.
Home of my royal ancestors.

Won't say. In case you're planning on moving somewhere. But I would be there in a flash. They are the best of the best of the nations on earth and the most intelligent people who have both mom/equality energy and dad's freedom, proportional democracy, and really good businesses with a high standard of living.

China is far from socialist you idiot...

They have all the oppression of socialism and all the downsides of capitalism.

That's why it's a super polluted fucked up hellhole where people still starve to death in numbers that would scare the hell out of you if you weren't so stupid.

China is a warning sign to all the people who think life will be better under the progressives.

Life will be worse. You'll still have to pay rent or go homeless and you'll have no freedom/if you do wind up homeless you just might "disappear" and a shiny new set of organs will suddenly be available to the highest bidder.

Which socialist country would take freeloaders in? It would go bankrupt very quickly.

Ok so which one is it? If they have moved all of their factories overseas to China as you claim, then where are the illegal aliens working?

I wont argue that capitalism sucks, because it does. Capitalism does not mean free markets. Capitalism is all about the accumulation and creation of wealth, where as a free market is about the exchange of goods, services, and wealth. Besides why would any individual who loves freedom call themselves a capitalist, when you know who actually created the definition.

With capitalism you get lobbiest who work for corporations who then get laws passed to further the goal of accumulating wealth and destroy any competition. A free market can not exist in a system who's sole purpose is to prevent competition. If we had a true free market system then I would be able to start my own cable tv business if I had the money, and you would have more than cable TV provider in an area. You don't see that because the government which has lobbiests who have presured government offficals into preventing you from doing that.

If we have a free market then why do you have to get 20 million licenses and permits just to be able to open your doors? Why do we have the highest corporate tax rates in the world?

More government control will not fix the problem, the problem is government control, who keeps throwing good money after bad. Pure fucking insanity.