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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78680774 United States 08/16/2020 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our knowledge on nutrition and dieting is not perfect, nothing is, but it’s not primitive or severely lacking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78680774 Keto is a tool. It can work, but it’s not unique aside from the fact that you can eat bacon grease and technically still be on the diet, which I think speaks volumes. It does.The macro nutrient fat is essential and your body needs it.Replacing the essential nutrient fat with twice as many carbs instead which are SUGAR as soon as they hit your body is not a good plan. Thank Ancel Keys and his fake study for that.Weve been paying for that ever since. You’re not making any sense. Not only are you ignoring the distinctive nature between different food sources of carbs and how they affect blood sugar levels, but you’re implying that someone ever recommended anything but eating a diet with optimal amounts of both macros. Which does not seem to have happened. |
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User ID: 77817863 United States 08/16/2020 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how we were meant to live. Quoting: _HOTSHOT 78083003 Then a prez died who chain smoked from a heart attack then instead of blamin the chain smoking they said it was da butter n fat. Sugar and Carbs create a loop of addiction? Short term dopamine? I am on the "fad" currently and no brain fog... and more. Maybe this is good since hard times are coming and many will suffer from finding that fix. Carbs n sugar. Also b1d3n new vice prez wants to bane red meat and create a healthier guide... IDK... I don't know much but this is my understanding. May God bless us all!. So, Kamala is being a hypocrite...again. We know she eats tube steak. Guess maybe she doesn't swallow though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77888403 United States 08/16/2020 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just started eating bread again as I was brainwashed it's Baaaaaaaad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79271504 It tastes good and I feel much better. I had company today and ate 2 hotdogs...on BUNS.Havent done that literally in years being a diet controlled type 2 diabetic. Love bread,and i can bake it like a monster.Bummer for me. Im loose keto,more high protein,moderate fats and very low carbs. |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812 Chile 08/16/2020 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy that insists that keto is wrong and dangerous really has no clue! I have been on keto for 20 months straight, avoiding carbs religiously and eating butter, cheese, bacon, without counting calories at all, and have never felt healthier - happier , lost at least 150 pounds, fit in clothes I had not been able to use in 20 years prior, can climb a hill that I couldn’t before, cured my metabolic syndrome, cured my fatty liver, cured my high blood pressure. No more cravings, no more constant hunger, sleep like a log, My wife has been for 14 months, same success. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
Reverend Alan
User ID: 72091715 United States 08/16/2020 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I lost over 30 pounds. I no longer take Metformin for diabetes. Test results at the doctor's keep improving. I never get tired of pastured steak and eggs. I sleep better, have more positive energy, I only have positive things to say about KETO. I buy butter by the case now. I also eat avocado, asparagus and broccoli, occasionally. |
chasity
User ID: 77360012 United States 08/16/2020 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any diet that almost, or entirely, eliminates a macronutrient or food group is not one you should probably use long-term. Instead, choose better food options. You don’t have to eat bread or sugary foods, but things oatmeal and potatoes are alternatives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78680774 That said, there’s nothing wrong with bread. Exercise, eat whole foods and find ways to manage stress. No reason to do any of these dramatic and limiting diets that aren’t optimal. Carbs are only useful for people with levels of physical activity that are no longer seen in our society. If you are an axe wielder timber cutter then by all means have a carb rich diet. Most people In our modern society can’t use the carbs They intake and they are stored as fat. If you are sedentary, getting very low carbs and high fat works wonders to loose weight and cure type 2 diabetes. That simple. Carbs are the only macro nutrient that ISNT essential.Eat carbs=INSTANT sugar.Not cure type2,I think you mean to say can put it into remission. OP,you are spot on. carbs are essential for the t-3 thyroid metabolism hormone. The body will use carbs for energy first, it's most efficient. The metabolism slows down with low carb and that's why people stall on low carb and keto, then they try to eat carbs again and gain weight back and blame it on carbs when really they just royally fucked their metabolism by eliminating carbs. Keto and low carb is the lazy man's diet that doesn't know what a pump feels like. Keto bodies look emaciated, skinnyfat and weak. Just look at Dr. Berg the chiropractor, he probably needs help pushing his shopping cart at the supermarket.d His body temperature is probably very low too and he feels cold to the touch, he's probably always cold that's why we only see him in long sleeves and pants, he's not even close to feeling warm with a slow metabolism. He's like those old ladies you see sitting in cars in the parking lot in the middle of summer wearing winter coats and the heat blasting in the car because the air conditioning in the store is just too cold for them. All macronutrients are essential but the best balance is 40% carbs 40% protein and 20% fat. With the fat this low it easy to pick and choose only the best fat for consumption. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If if works for you then eat low carb especially for health reasons, overweight people aren't very active to begin with and dropping 200 pounds will make any 400 pound person look and feel better and make those horrible blood labs much better too. However, calories in calories out is what always works, if you can't control eating a sandwich with 2 slices of white 60 calories each slice bread because you think whole grain 140 a slice is better and you need 2 of those, don't complain about your carbs being the problem because that's just over eating calories, fat ass. grass fed sardines |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79155845 United States 08/16/2020 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went "Keto" after my Dr. recommended insulin for my Type 2 Diabetes. In 6 months my A1C went from 15 to 5.4, and lost 40 lbs. Dr wanted to do a video interview for a paper because she had never seen this kind of remission. That was 2 years ago. Now, even after changing my diet to a "normal" diet on the weekends, my A1C is still below pre-diabetes levels, and am no longer considered "obese" or chunky (I kept the weight off). Carbs aren't necessary for survival. Whatever glucose your brain needs to function is easily converted in your liver from consumed protein. The only time you would need to consume carbs is when you are seriously underweight, and not eating enough protein. About cholesterol... By bad levels went down, and the good levels shot up. There are good cholesterols, mainly found in natural fats and oils like olive oil and animal fats (Butter is full of good cholesterol!). Pre-Keto, my blood work showed my bad levels were horrible - and I was on a "fat-free" diet then. Following the suggested diabetic diet was making my health worse and worse. Dropping it for a single big fatty meal (with fresh veggies) every evening was the best thing I could have ever done for my health. I am now on no medications (save the occasional ibuprofen for spousal related headaches), and I now only go to my doctor for bragging rights - and she has to call me to tell me I'm overdue. It's not an easy diet when everyone around you is eating garbage, but with a bit of self-control, it's the best decision anyone who is overweight or diabetic can make. Now, if you are already healthy and/or underweight, it may not be for you. Especially if underweight it could be harmful because there may be thyroid problems in the background. If you really want to know how to eat in the most healthy manner, just flip the food pyramid upside down (and follow common sense), and you are on the right track. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 08/16/2020 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how we were meant to live. Quoting: _HOTSHOT 78083003 Then a prez died who chain smoked from a heart attack then instead of blamin the chain smoking they said it was da butter n fat. Sugar and Carbs create a loop of addiction? Short term dopamine? I am on the "fad" currently and no brain fog... and more. Maybe this is good since hard times are coming and many will suffer from finding that fix. Carbs n sugar. Also b1d3n new vice prez wants to bane red meat and create a healthier guide... IDK... I don't know much but this is my understanding. May God bless us all!. in my not so humble opinion, you have stumbled across greatness. I have been a believer for 6 years now and I will never turn back. as the benefits start increasing, so does the positive feedback loop. once you start believing in the path, the results increase. no more heartburn. no more headaches. for me, most importantly, no more eczema/psoriasis. took about 6 months to clear. only drink coffee and water now ... everything is either RO or distilled water. sinus issues gone, unless I cheat and partake briefly, then within 30min-90min I remember what that poison does to a person...it is almost instantaneous it is amazing how the body tries to cope with the daily consumption of poisons and even lifestyle. once your body starts healing, exercise is a pleasure instead of a chore with the rush of pleasure far exceeding the pain..completely reversed from when I was eating like shit and the clarity of thought .... is probably my most favorite benefit ... probably because the other ailments that are now gone are a thing of the past and fading from memory life kicks ass |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 08/16/2020 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy that insists that keto is wrong and dangerous really has no clue! I have been on keto for 20 months straight, avoiding carbs religiously and eating butter, cheese, bacon, without counting calories at all, and have never felt healthier - happier , lost at least 150 pounds, fit in clothes I had not been able to use in 20 years prior, can climb a hill that I couldn’t before, cured my metabolic syndrome, cured my fatty liver, cured my high blood pressure. No more cravings, no more constant hunger, sleep like a log, Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe My wife has been for 14 months, same success. has your quality of life improved? do you look forward to the day more than you use to? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 08/16/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any diet that almost, or entirely, eliminates a macronutrient or food group is not one you should probably use long-term. Instead, choose better food options. You don’t have to eat bread or sugary foods, but things oatmeal and potatoes are alternatives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78680774 That said, there’s nothing wrong with bread. Exercise, eat whole foods and find ways to manage stress. No reason to do any of these dramatic and limiting diets that aren’t optimal. Carbs are only useful for people with levels of physical activity that are no longer seen in our society. If you are an axe wielder timber cutter then by all means have a carb rich diet. Most people In our modern society can’t use the carbs They intake and they are stored as fat. If you are sedentary, getting very low carbs and high fat works wonders to loose weight and cure type 2 diabetes. That simple. Carbs are the only macro nutrient that ISNT essential.Eat carbs=INSTANT sugar.Not cure type2,I think you mean to say can put it into remission. OP,you are spot on. carbs are essential for the t-3 thyroid metabolism hormone. The body will use carbs for energy first, it's most efficient. The metabolism slows down with low carb and that's why people stall on low carb and keto, then they try to eat carbs again and gain weight back and blame it on carbs when really they just royally fucked their metabolism by eliminating carbs. Keto and low carb is the lazy man's diet that doesn't know what a pump feels like. Keto bodies look emaciated, skinnyfat and weak. Just look at Dr. Berg the chiropractor, he probably needs help pushing his shopping cart at the supermarket.d His body temperature is probably very low too and he feels cold to the touch, he's probably always cold that's why we only see him in long sleeves and pants, he's not even close to feeling warm with a slow metabolism. He's like those old ladies you see sitting in cars in the parking lot in the middle of summer wearing winter coats and the heat blasting in the car because the air conditioning in the store is just too cold for them. All macronutrients are essential but the best balance is 40% carbs 40% protein and 20% fat. With the fat this low it easy to pick and choose only the best fat for consumption. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If if works for you then eat low carb especially for health reasons, overweight people aren't very active to begin with and dropping 200 pounds will make any 400 pound person look and feel better and make those horrible blood labs much better too. However, calories in calories out is what always works, if you can't control eating a sandwich with 2 slices of white 60 calories each slice bread because you think whole grain 140 a slice is better and you need 2 of those, don't complain about your carbs being the problem because that's just over eating calories, fat ass. sorry chasity, but bullllllshhhhhiiiiitttttttt!!!! almost everything you just stated is bullllllshhhhiiiittttt. damn, i haven't see someone get so much wrong in such a short space. damn ... it will take a while for the shock to wear off before we can start picking apart this travesty. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 08/16/2020 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but it probably won't make any difference. calories are only a secondary impact on weight gain. the primary is the type of foods you eat. believe what you will and I guess what makes life the easiest. but short term tradeoffs are never worth the long term consequences. it is not a fad or even a diet ... it is a way of life |
chasity
User ID: 77360012 United States 08/16/2020 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry chasity, but bullllllshhhhhiiiiitttttttt!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71594995 almost everything you just stated is bullllllshhhhiiiittttt. damn, i haven't see someone get so much wrong in such a short space. damn ... it will take a while for the shock to wear off before we can start picking apart this travesty. Just because I have more self control and discipline than you doesn't mean it's bullshit. It means you are just a lazy fat ass and I can have my cake and eat it too, but I opted for an oatmeal waffle this morning before I need to use my muscles and not sit around on my ass all day. grass fed sardines |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79255088 Canada 08/16/2020 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anxiety levels are the lowest they’ve been in 25 years. I honestly feel like a completely new person. I don’t know what the long term effects of living like this will be but I can’t bring myself to go back to a heavy carb lifestyle..I’m pretty sure it was killing me |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812 Chile 08/16/2020 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy that insists that keto is wrong and dangerous really has no clue! I have been on keto for 20 months straight, avoiding carbs religiously and eating butter, cheese, bacon, without counting calories at all, and have never felt healthier - happier , lost at least 150 pounds, fit in clothes I had not been able to use in 20 years prior, can climb a hill that I couldn’t before, cured my metabolic syndrome, cured my fatty liver, cured my high blood pressure. No more cravings, no more constant hunger, sleep like a log, Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe My wife has been for 14 months, same success. has your quality of life improved? do you look forward to the day more than you use to? My quality of life absolutely improved. I was struggling for 5 years with the weight issue, I was borderline depressive and anxious, I was tormented by constant food cravings. I was unable to do much physical activity without serious risk of harming my knees, and I had a terrible case of plantar fascitis. Keto diet made it all Begin to disappear in 3 months. I am never back to “normal” food. Now I never feel hungry. Ever! All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78197566 United States 08/16/2020 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy that insists that keto is wrong and dangerous really has no clue! I have been on keto for 20 months straight, avoiding carbs religiously and eating butter, cheese, bacon, without counting calories at all, and have never felt healthier - happier , lost at least 150 pounds, fit in clothes I had not been able to use in 20 years prior, can climb a hill that I couldn’t before, cured my metabolic syndrome, cured my fatty liver, cured my high blood pressure. No more cravings, no more constant hunger, sleep like a log, Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe My wife has been for 14 months, same success. has your quality of life improved? do you look forward to the day more than you use to? My quality of life absolutely improved. I was struggling for 5 years with the weight issue, I was borderline depressive and anxious, I was tormented by constant food cravings. I was unable to do much physical activity without serious risk of harming my knees, and I had a terrible case of plantar fascitis. Keto diet made it all Begin to disappear in 3 months. I am never back to “normal” food. Now I never feel hungry. Ever! Great to hear! I found intermittent fasting really helps too... I try to eat within an 8 hour period most days. |
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tkwasny
User ID: 77839169 United States 08/16/2020 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plenty of people workout and play sports. Some carbs are necessary if you're going to be doing alot of physical activity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79269411 It is critical that very quickly after a hard workout you ingest about 150 calories of a simple sugar like Agave, honey or maple syrup. If you don't the body will get muscle replacement fuel (carbs) from other, lesser or least used muscle tissue. Unfortunately the body can, and will, derive carbs from cannibalizing muscle tissue quicker and easier than it can the long biochemical chain process of getting carbs from fats. Immediately following hard exercise your body is in a life or death panic mode to re-fill those burned out muscles with fuel. |
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Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812 Chile 08/16/2020 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy that insists that keto is wrong and dangerous really has no clue! I have been on keto for 20 months straight, avoiding carbs religiously and eating butter, cheese, bacon, without counting calories at all, and have never felt healthier - happier , lost at least 150 pounds, fit in clothes I had not been able to use in 20 years prior, can climb a hill that I couldn’t before, cured my metabolic syndrome, cured my fatty liver, cured my high blood pressure. No more cravings, no more constant hunger, sleep like a log, Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe My wife has been for 14 months, same success. has your quality of life improved? do you look forward to the day more than you use to? My quality of life absolutely improved. I was struggling for 5 years with the weight issue, I was borderline depressive and anxious, I was tormented by constant food cravings. I was unable to do much physical activity without serious risk of harming my knees, and I had a terrible case of plantar fascitis. Keto diet made it all Begin to disappear in 3 months. I am never back to “normal” food. Now I never feel hungry. Ever! Great to hear! I found intermittent fasting really helps too... I try to eat within an 8 hour period most days. Yes I, I concentrate all my meals in a 8 hour window (breakfast, lunch, and a snack at the en of the 8 hour window) and fast for 16 hours every day. Then once a week I fast for 36 hours straight. I begun to do this about 3 months ago. Mainly because I am never hungry now, so at times I felt I was only eating because of habit. Fasting has improved my quality of live even more. And it makes a lot for your focusing ability, the weekly 36 hours fast is my most productive day of the week, no time spent in cooking / eating. Last Edited by Red Hot Chilean Pepe on 08/16/2020 10:56 AM All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 08/16/2020 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry chasity, but bullllllshhhhhiiiiitttttttt!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71594995 almost everything you just stated is bullllllshhhhiiiittttt. damn, i haven't see someone get so much wrong in such a short space. damn ... it will take a while for the shock to wear off before we can start picking apart this travesty. Just because I have more self control and discipline than you doesn't mean it's bullshit. It means you are just a lazy fat ass and I can have my cake and eat it too, but I opted for an oatmeal waffle this morning before I need to use my muscles and not sit around on my ass all day. hmmm, been on keto for 6 years now. started at 205-210 and i am down to 153, shooting for 145 & a 6pk i eat 5 strips of bacon and 4 complete eggs every morning for breakfast ... my fully laden plates probably weigh more than you do. I usually go on 20 mile bike rides 2-3 times a week and the other weekdays, spin bike with resistance bands. I can usually average 17.5-19.5 over those 20 miles. I would love to go head to head with you over this ideology, but you would be gasping for breath miles and miles back. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78680774 United States 08/16/2020 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3 pages in and still no one has presented any information giving any type of substantial evidence that keto is healthier than a balanced diet with whole foods Eat meat and eggs, eat berries, eat vegetables, eat your oatmeal and sweet potato, drink your almond milk. You’ll be much better for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79270570 Mexico 08/16/2020 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a scientific fact that people whose ancestors were hunter gatherers are taller, more fertile and healthier than people whose ancestors were farmers Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79270570 Vikings are taller than Inuit. Vikings descended from a hunter gathers population in Eastern Europe that became pastoralists and developed lactose tolerance. So you just proved my point |