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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79658823 United States 11/25/2020 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket The Third Circuit has issued an opinion that has received little attention over the right to bear arms, but it should. The decision in Folajtar v. The Attorney General of the United States may be one of the most perfectly tailored case for major Supreme Court decision. Indeed, the only thing lacking from the 2-1 decision is a mailing label directly to Justice Amy Coney Barrett. In ruling that a non-violent tax conviction can result in the denial of gun ownership, the panel presents a clean case to further define the contours of the individual rights recognized in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008). The Third Circuit case concerns Lisa Folajtar who was denied the right to own a firearm. The reason was her pleading guilty in 2011 to willfully making a materially false statement on her tax returns. The plea led to a sentence of three-years’ probation, including three months of home confinement, a $10,000 fine, and a $100 assessment. She also paid the IRS over $250,000 in back taxes, penalties, and interest. The case falls into the still grey area around the individual right articulated in 2008. The Supreme Court recognized that this is not an “unlimited” right under the Constitution while affirming the right of “law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home.” Id. at 635. Moreover, the Court ruled two years later that Heller “did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as ‘prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons.’” McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742, 786 (2010) (quoting Heller, 554 U.S. at 626–27). who gives a shit good luck collecting those guns |
Don Draper from Nantucket
(OP) User ID: 57553864 United States 11/25/2020 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket The Third Circuit has issued an opinion that has received little attention over the right to bear arms, but it should. The decision in Folajtar v. The Attorney General of the United States may be one of the most perfectly tailored case for major Supreme Court decision. Indeed, the only thing lacking from the 2-1 decision is a mailing label directly to Justice Amy Coney Barrett. In ruling that a non-violent tax conviction can result in the denial of gun ownership, the panel presents a clean case to further define the contours of the individual rights recognized in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008). The Third Circuit case concerns Lisa Folajtar who was denied the right to own a firearm. The reason was her pleading guilty in 2011 to willfully making a materially false statement on her tax returns. The plea led to a sentence of three-years’ probation, including three months of home confinement, a $10,000 fine, and a $100 assessment. She also paid the IRS over $250,000 in back taxes, penalties, and interest. The case falls into the still grey area around the individual right articulated in 2008. The Supreme Court recognized that this is not an “unlimited” right under the Constitution while affirming the right of “law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home.” Id. at 635. Moreover, the Court ruled two years later that Heller “did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as ‘prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons.’” McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742, 786 (2010) (quoting Heller, 554 U.S. at 626–27). who gives a shit good luck collecting those guns Many people do! PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79324350 United States 11/25/2020 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Massachusetts you can be denied a gun license if the licensing officer doesn't like the took of you, no criminal record needed. So it's not like this is anything new. I suppose a court ruling in this case holds more weight than the Massachusetts law which as far as I know hasn't been challenged in court yet. |
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User ID: 15486397 United States 11/25/2020 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biden cannot be allowed to steal this election and Ga is a must win for conservatives! Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket There will be a lot of lost guns I think if it gets to that point. "the purpose of war is not to die for your country but to make the other guy die for his." - Patton "What happens if the parachute doesn't open?" "Bring it back and we will give you one that works." "Dark humor is like food, not everybody gets it." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78120509 United States 11/25/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Massachusetts you can be denied a gun license if the licensing officer doesn't like the took of you, no criminal record needed. Quoting: R. Wordsworth So it's not like this is anything new. I suppose a court ruling in this case holds more weight than the Massachusetts law which as far as I know hasn't been challenged in court yet. fuck Massachusetts. arrest them all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 11/25/2020 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't defend your right to keep and bear arms if you can't defend your right to say NO to the rothschild bank. Quoting: BallsDeeper cart before the horse You do have that right, there is another, non taxable form of money, gold backed and issued by the United States Treasury. No Federal Reserve involved. And I can prove it. Now what? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79550604 United States 11/25/2020 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't defend your right to keep and bear arms if you can't defend your right to say NO to the rothschild bank. Quoting: BallsDeeper cart before the horse You do have that right, there is another, non taxable form of money, gold backed and issued by the United States Treasury. No Federal Reserve involved. And I can prove it. Now what? Gold is a pointless worthless rock with no utility. Buy bitcoin! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63928440 United States 11/25/2020 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gold is one of the best Electrical conductors on the planet. you can't defend your right to keep and bear arms if you can't defend your right to say NO to the rothschild bank. Quoting: BallsDeeper cart before the horse You do have that right, there is another, non taxable form of money, gold backed and issued by the United States Treasury. No Federal Reserve involved. And I can prove it. Now what? Gold is a pointless worthless rock with no utility. Buy bitcoin! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79685110 United States 11/25/2020 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT PART OF .........SHALL NOT INFRINGED.... DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND ...oh and many people don't realize that We The People have the right to possess and own ANY weaponry that the government has. Think about that tyrants before you try and take away those weapons. You will eventually run into Patriots that will carry out the Second Amendment against you traitors and tyrants. Guaranteed! |
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User ID: 77158791 United States 11/25/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT PART OF Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79685110 .........SHALL NOT INFRINGED.... DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND ...oh and many people don't realize that We The People have the right to possess and own ANY weaponry that the government has. Think about that tyrants before you try and take away those weapons. You will eventually run into Patriots that will carry out the Second Amendment against you traitors and tyrants. Guaranteed! And take all of their Class III weapons from their cold dead hands. |
Don Draper from Nantucket
(OP) User ID: 57553864 United States 11/25/2020 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't defend your right to keep and bear arms if you can't defend your right to say NO to the rothschild bank. Quoting: BallsDeeper cart before the horse You do have that right, there is another, non taxable form of money, gold backed and issued by the United States Treasury. No Federal Reserve involved. And I can prove it. Now what? Gold is a pointless worthless rock with no utility. Buy bitcoin! PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
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User ID: 79647270 United States 11/25/2020 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So in other words, because the Trump Administration covered up the IRS TEA PARTY TARGETING SCANDAL with not one single arrest still 4 years later, this unconstitutional tyranny will never stop until indictments start to drop Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78358885 Or if we all get off our dead asses and start watering the tree. “No amount of evidence will convince an idiot.” Mark Twain "Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politicians." G.S.Patton |
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B
User ID: 79544183 United States 11/25/2020 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biden cannot be allowed to steal this election and Ga is a must win for conservatives! Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket There will be a lot of lost guns I think if it gets to that point. All the "lakes" will be overflowing their banks from all the "accidental guns lost" in them!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79427399 Indonesia 11/25/2020 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So in other words, because the Trump Administration covered up the IRS TEA PARTY TARGETING SCANDAL with not one single arrest still 4 years later, this unconstitutional tyranny will never stop until indictments start to drop Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78358885 Or if we all get off our dead asses and start watering the tree. Easy there Hackie Chan Violence is never the answer so how about we start with cutting off the enemy’s primary source of revenue by getting Trump to call for the closure of the Clinton Foundation All they want is violence |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79658330 United States 11/25/2020 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. Courts have ZERO Authority over the Constitution. It it the People who Judge the Law. The fopunding Fathers made the courtthe absolute weakest branch of Giovernment just to prevent such horseshit. The POWER rests in the Hands of the People. Any Judge trying to Overthrow the Constitution or the Right and Authority of the People is Guilty of TREASON and is a Direct THREAT to The United States of America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79658330 United States 11/25/2020 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Massachusetts you can be denied a gun license if the licensing officer doesn't like the took of you, no criminal record needed. Quoting: R. Wordsworth So it's not like this is anything new. I suppose a court ruling in this case holds more weight than the Massachusetts law which as far as I know hasn't been challenged in court yet. Permission slip from the Giovt for your RIGHTS. Is there a Fee to get those rights? Are they Selling you your Rights? |
mellonhead
User ID: 76970295 United States 11/25/2020 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket The Third Circuit has issued an opinion that has received little attention over the right to bear arms, but it should. The decision in Folajtar v. The Attorney General of the United States may be one of the most perfectly tailored case for major Supreme Court decision. Indeed, the only thing lacking from the 2-1 decision is a mailing label directly to Justice Amy Coney Barrett. In ruling that a non-violent tax conviction can result in the denial of gun ownership, the panel presents a clean case to further define the contours of the individual rights recognized in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008). The Third Circuit case concerns Lisa Folajtar who was denied the right to own a firearm. The reason was her pleading guilty in 2011 to willfully making a materially false statement on her tax returns. The plea led to a sentence of three-years’ probation, including three months of home confinement, a $10,000 fine, and a $100 assessment. She also paid the IRS over $250,000 in back taxes, penalties, and interest. The case falls into the still grey area around the individual right articulated in 2008. The Supreme Court recognized that this is not an “unlimited” right under the Constitution while affirming the right of “law-abiding, responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home.” Id. at 635. Moreover, the Court ruled two years later that Heller “did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as ‘prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons.’” McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742, 786 (2010) (quoting Heller, 554 U.S. at 626–27). Yep, all in the plan, don't take the vaccine no guns for you! Hermie Gothe |