Does the Church Have it Wrong About WHEN Jesus Ascended? - Bible Study

He ascended to His Father in Heaven immediately after talking to Mary and then He returned from Heaven in His glorified body to talk to the disciples and let Thomas touch Him.

This topic and so many others, has always been very interesting. There are so many hidden clues in the bible that the bible itself says are intentionally hidden and that ...

"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings." Proverbs 25:2

Perhaps Mary was unclean while Thomas was clean at the time.



Acts 1:9-11 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Last Edited by Achduke7 on 12/29/2020 02:39 PM

Jesus made it pretty clear when He said...

Touch me not;

for I am not yet ascended to my Father:

You thought he ascended when they saw him ascend, that's understandable. But as you have seen the bible explains itself and he ascended the same day as the resurrection.

What's your contempt for Mary Magdalene to disrespect her name?

Where does it say this?

John's description of Thomas touching the wounds is quite dramatic (v. 25). Thomas wants to shove his hand into Jesus' side! On the assumption that the disciples have told Thomas about Jesus' wounds, some have taken Thomas's statement as evidence that Jesus' wound was large enough for one to put one's hand in and that it was not closed over. But more likely Thomas is simply being dramatic, as he was earlier in the Gospel (11:16). Similarly, the language he uses when he says he will not believe is very emphatic (ou me pisteuso).

John does not say whether Thomas actually did touch Jesus' wounds. The impression is that he did not, for John says, "Thomas answered and said to him . . ." That is, Thomas' confession is an immediate response to seeing Jesus and hearing his offer. Furthermore, in Jesus' response to Thomas he mentions seeing but not touching (v. 29). Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed (v. 29). This beatitude, like others Jesus had spoken, is a shocking reversal of common expectations.

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The Firstfruits wave offering was accepted by YAHUAH (God) and Yahushua (Jesus) returned to Earth. Also note when the Saints came out of their graves, as it was then, it will be again. Yahushua was the Fathers Firstfruit, who are the Firstfruits to YAHUAH and the Lamb?

Notice he then Ascended 10 days before Shavuot.

The Shavuot wave offering two young lambs (two Witnesses) and two loaves of rich wheat bread made with leavening (two groups within the 144,000) was never completed by him..it was withheld until its time.

Only the High Priest could make the offering and that High Priest is Yahushua.

On Shavuot 6/8-9/2019 He made the Wave Offering. That night the Genesis 3:15 sign appeared in the Heavens.

What was restraining was taken out of the way by the only one who could do it, Yahushua.

Last Edited by Michael. on 12/29/2020 05:44 PM

To me...most of that is mere speculation.



The point is that Jesus INVITED Thomas to stick his hand in.

No disrespect intended.

Who knows...maybe her friends called her that.

I had never given the "Ascension" any real throught until last night - when the verses I listed above in the OP just seemed to "click".