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Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 80724169 United States 08/20/2021 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The solution to adults that want to have sex with kids... I'm so fucking sick of this pedo shit being normalized.... First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
GlazedHoots
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superflyscot
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Creme de la Crap
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REaliZe
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Xoroshiro
User ID: 79697003 United States 08/20/2021 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mmmmm... you're missing a critical piece here. It was tied in with the marriage laws. It was more commonplace at the time for families to "marry off" their daughters to say, a wealthy farmer the next town over. However, they typically did NOT procreate until she reached child bearing age. Quoting: Constant Parad0x Right or wrong? Debatable. Often times the parents marrying their daughters off did not have the means to continue raising or to educate their daughters so this was a way to give their daughters an opportunity they might not otherwise have. The husband might provide money for an education and in exchange, his wife would handle housework, making clothes, and meals. Sex typically wasn't part of the deal until she got much older. Obviously, this got changed due to abuse and the advent of public school systems.... Certainly not arguing with the scenarios of marriage you described. (Ofc even biologically it makes sense.) But you're leaving out the fact that age of consent laws do not - and never did - apply within adult-child marriages. i.e. The laws were only relevant outside of marriage, outside of your scenario. So the Johns story I guess was not relevant. A 1576 law making it a felony to "unlawfully and carnally know and abuse any woman child under the age of 10 years" was generally interpreted as creating more severe punishments when girls were under 10 years old while retaining the lesser punishment for acts with 10- and 11-year-old girls. Quoting: University of Sydney, AustraliaThere was one exception: a man's acts with his wife, to which rape law, and hence the age of consent, did not apply. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] (See archive of citation 104 - blocked by GLP) So that would be the basis for cases like this: 11-year-old girl 'forced to marry her rapist' from church in Florida [link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)] When investigators began looking into her case, she claims her family tried to protect her rapist by forcing her to marry him. Quoting: The Independent“My mom asked me if I wanted to get married, and I said, ‘I don’t know, what is marriage, how do I act like a wife?’” Ms Johnson told The New York Times. “She said, ‘Well, I guess you’re just going to get married.’” Something happened to the NYT article, but 10 years ago quite a few states including Florida permitted that. |
ThePassenger
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50188346 United States 08/20/2021 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you're leaving out the fact that age of consent laws do not - and never did - apply within adult-child marriages. i.e. The laws were only relevant outside of marriage, outside of your scenario. Quoting: Xoroshiro So the Johns story I guess was not relevant. I didn't leave it out its just that I've read similar threads before and am aware of the circumstances surrounding the marriage of Charlie & Eunice. Its not really a good example of abuse by child marriage because they did wait until she was 16 (legal age in their state) before having kids. BTW, she stayed married to him for over 60 years until his death. I think if it were my family, I would not be too happy with a bunch of online posters calling my deceased family member a child rapist when that is not what occurred. Since I am aware of the situation, I figured I'd bring that to the table so the record is straight on the issue. FWIW - within my own family my grandparents were married at 15 & 23, respectively. Nobody has ever claimed that my grandmother was "raped" or otherwise forced into some cover-up marriage. She was already pregnant at the time they were married, had 3 additional children, and stayed married until my Grandmother passed at 81. She wasn't a "helpless wife" either - she became a District Manager for a large corporation and my Grandfather owned a successful business. You have to remember, in that time period it was considered almost the ultimate sin to have a child out of wedlock and some communities even shunned these people and their children. There is no question that marriage law has been abused to cover for child rape. I'm not even debating that. I think 10 is WAY too young for any adult to be engaging in that behavior with a child. |
Xoroshiro
User ID: 79697003 United States 08/20/2021 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't leave it out its just that I've read similar threads before and am aware of the circumstances surrounding the marriage of Charlie & Eunice. Quoting: Constant Parad0x Fair enough. It sounded like your original post was disputing the meaningfulness of those insanely low AOC laws, but you were just being succinct. Appreciate the detail you brought. |
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User ID: 79623367 United Kingdom 08/20/2021 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oulu child sexual exploitation scandal [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] GEORGE BERNARD SHAW: "I don't particularly care about homosexuality, providing it's not made compulsory You May Live To See Man-Made Horrors Beyond Your Comprehension - Nikola Tesla. Bitcoin-bc1qtpxfhwrtvgm5rq9duc3jtenu6hex855xajsmx8 |
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AlphaWolf
User ID: 80247695 Canada 08/20/2021 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no such thing as a culture where that is normal. Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez A CULT, but not a Culture. Can they define culture or name an example of one? Because if they can, we have some business to take care of. Its common in mid east. I think even in parts of Africa they like raping kids. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50188346 United States 08/20/2021 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure what they are referring to, but yeah there are several court cases involving immigrants that has gotten off the hook with child rapes. Quoting: propshaft Even if they get sentenced for jail, it's only like a year or less for the first timer. And that's messed up IMHO. These people should not be getting off on a religious basis. I think the UK has done that and its a huge mistake. |
Xoroshiro
User ID: 79502730 Canada 08/20/2021 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was tied in with the marriage laws. It was more commonplace at the time for families to "marry off" their daughters to say, a wealthy farmer the next town over. However, they typically did NOT procreate until she reached child bearing age. Quoting: Constant Parad0x Just another thought. If someone argues that consent to marriage as a 10-year-old is somehow less significant than consent to intimate relations, I don't think that's make sense. It's a life-altering commitment either way. It seems the delay you described would be for biological reasons (physically safer), not emotional maturity. But again, I don't see how age of consent laws were "tied in" to marriage, considering they didn't apply under marriage. (EDIT: nvm that's where I misunderstood you) Anyway like you said it's debatable. Last Edited by Xoroshiro on 08/20/2021 05:57 AM |
Xoroshiro
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T-Man
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50188346 United States 08/20/2021 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was tied in with the marriage laws. It was more commonplace at the time for families to "marry off" their daughters to say, a wealthy farmer the next town over. However, they typically did NOT procreate until she reached child bearing age. Quoting: Constant Parad0x Just another thought. If someone argues that consent to marriage as a 10-year-old is somehow less significant than consent to intimate relations, I don't think that's make sense. It's a life-altering commitment either way. It seems the delay you described would be for biological reasons (physically safer), not emotional maturity. But again, I don't see how age of consent laws were "tied in" to marriage, considering they didn't apply under marriage. Not wanting to argue tho Well.. I actually wrote a response addressing this but got banned and subsequently unbanned. Asked for a reason but wasn't told why. I don't *think* I hit any of the banned words or said anything particularly ridiculous... but who knows without being told. I'm not really saying you're wrong per se... but I think its wrong to judge the actions of a prior era against current standards. You have to understand that at least in the 1930s people were far spread out and few in between. The standards were different. That was a point I was trying to make to you about my grandparents. I'm also aware that I had at least 2 aunts who were married off to neighbor farms in the 1700s when they were 13. Both of them did not have children until they were 17 and 18. I guess what I'm pointing out is that there were other reasons for marriage back then than just sex. Circling back to my grandparents... I happen to know the reason they consummated the first child was that they were already dating, my great grandparents were aware of this, and my Grandfather was going off to war. If you put this in context, its kinda reasonable. That's why I'm saying, you really cant right out judge this without evidence. Is 10 too young at any rate? I would say yes, but when the marriages were happening back then, they were not necessarily having sex with their wives at that age and I'm just pointing that out. Like I tried to say earlier, I think to some extent there is an agenda to paint Whites in a bad light. There is another group that pretty consistently still engages in these practices and not for altruistic reasons. I'll leave it to you to decide who they are. |
Dr. Strange
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Xoroshiro
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Let’s GO
User ID: 80742072 United States 08/20/2021 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chill the fuck down, people. Quoting: Dr. Strange Consider your sources. Have you seen a reputable source saying this? I haven't. This happened years ago. [link to www.rt.com (secure)] |
Dr. Strange
User ID: 80067071 Finland 08/20/2021 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chill the fuck down, people. Quoting: Dr. Strange Consider your sources. Have you seen a reputable source saying this? I haven't. This happened years ago. [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Yeah, I know. The title is still wrong. Sex with kids is NOT legal. Last Edited by Dr. Strange on 08/20/2021 06:21 AM Dr. Strange - The long-lost brother of the late Dr. Moran. |
Corsicano
User ID: 79490983 United States 08/20/2021 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.breitbart.com (secure)] Finland’s New Government Is Young And Led By Women—Here’s What The Country Does To Promote Diversity [link to www.forbes.com (secure)] Attila |
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Doctor Congo, Terrorist
User ID: 79881547 United States 08/20/2021 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FAKE NEWS That is a gross misinterpretation of what happened. A guy was convicted of aggravated abuse instead of rape because of how the Finnish law is written. He still went to jail. Because of the law he didn't get enough of a sentence. They are trying to change the laws to be more strict. Most everything in the tweet is a lie. Sex with children is not legal in Finland. [link to sputniknews.com (secure)] Last Edited by Doctor Congo on 08/20/2021 06:23 AM |
DiamondBlack
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Artificial Person
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