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Look another shill creating "what if" fairy tale scenarios to justify destroying the Constitution instead of castrating the government at every facet to scale back their power to the 10th Amendment by reverting back to common law as intended instead of OP's bullshit game plan like Trump's TRUST THE PLAN PSY-OP that he never disavowed or acknowledged by design to play right into the enemy's hands by cutting off our nose to spite our face

trump-wng1
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you re not reading. i m all for making that 10th amendment work at world-wide scale and any other imaginable checks that would limit the power of governments, corporations and other such fictions over real human beings
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Lady listen, I only deal in reality and we need to focus on America first before we start rescuing Europe again

I was the first one here years ago to call bullshit on Trump's DEPORTATION FORCE knowing darn well it would require a military style draft in support personnel just to augment the logistics that would be required to deport 10 million illegal aliens let alone the other 40 million the Republican Sanctuary City Mayors pretend don't exist either proving both sides of the political aisle are complicit in industrialized human trafficking on a Biblical scale to hollow out our electoral process by silencing us through the nullification of our votes

America needs to handle her business before she starts rescuing our allies again otherwise freedom dies

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to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose


Ask UN?

The commie center of the planned NWO ?

You missed some details

People need to TELL GOVERNMENTS they will not comply with a NWO one world government
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i didn't miss any detail.

i'm speaking about how to get that power over the world from the UN and hand it over through Humanity.

this is only possible through a world-wide referendum where all the 8 bln vote and thus take the power from UN since that organization will no longer be needed
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You say that maybe 1 to 10 million are smart enough to think with their own brain, but the answer is a world democracy where the stupid majority get to decide for everyone? That seems like a detail you missed. Mob rule will not work.
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nope, you'd end up with a weighted system which would avoid 'mob rule'.

the only problem that needs solved is to actually have those 10 mln people with brains have the say, not self-appointed thugs who parade as being wise while their are just self-serving greedy bastards
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$3.50

Look another shill creating "what if" fairy tale scenarios to justify destroying the Constitution instead of castrating the government at every facet to scale back their power to the 10th Amendment by reverting back to common law as intended instead of OP's bullshit game plan like Trump's TRUST THE PLAN PSY-OP that he never disavowed or acknowledged by design to play right into the enemy's hands by cutting off our nose to spite our face

trump-wng1
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you re not reading. i m all for making that 10th amendment work at world-wide scale and any other imaginable checks that would limit the power of governments, corporations and other such fictions over real human beings
 Quoting: VenusRose


Lady listen, I only deal in reality and we need to focus on America first before we start rescuing Europe again

I was the first one here years ago to call bullshit on Trump's DEPORTATION FORCE knowing darn well it would require a military style draft in support personnel just to augment the logistics that would be required to deport 10 million illegal aliens let alone the other 40 million the Republican Sanctuary City Mayors pretend don't exist either proving both sides of the political aisle are complicit in industrialized human trafficking on a Biblical scale to hollow out our electoral process by silencing our US through the nullification of our votes

America needs to handle her business before she starts rescuing our allies again otherwise freedom dies

vendetta
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well, i'm actually from romania so what can i say

do what u gotta do to get america back. and we talk after :)
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like u know, only way to get rid of the elites might be
a true world-wide democracy leveraging on the tech we now have to achieve this...

tech used for the good of the people this time, since it's a tool like any other
 Quoting: VenusRose


democracy is not the answer, democracy is flawed, democracy is mob rule.

the mob are idiots and easily propagandized. the entire gov system is out date in the age of the internet when we all could vote on critical issues instead or relying on remote, greedy, self serving corrupted and lobbied representatives.
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is funny you say democracy is flawed, then you say we could all vote with tech :)

what is called now democracy is flawed i agree.

the original concept of democracy comes from 2000 years ago in Athens Greece

but it's actually an innate thing to decent human beings.

if you and 5 friends wanna decide where to go tonight, one way or another you gonna vote for it, so that s democracy in it's essence.

not corrupt representatives and all the lobby.

and that's what was this thread was about, to get back to a working way in which the 'will of the people' is expressed which can also be upgraded to avoid 'mob rule'
 Quoting: VenusRose


It's funny to us American when you liberal indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texans'

epiclol
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like u know, only way to get rid of the elites might be
a true world-wide democracy leveraging on the tech we now have to achieve this...

tech used for the good of the people this time, since it's a tool like any other
 Quoting: VenusRose


democracy is not the answer, democracy is flawed, democracy is mob rule.

the mob are idiots and easily propagandized. the entire gov system is out date in the age of the internet when we all could vote on critical issues instead or relying on remote, greedy, self serving corrupted and lobbied representatives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81000474


is funny you say democracy is flawed, then you say we could all vote with tech :)

what is called now democracy is flawed i agree.

the original concept of democracy comes from 2000 years ago in Athens Greece

but it's actually an innate thing to decent human beings.

if you and 5 friends wanna decide where to go tonight, one way or another you gonna vote for it, so that s democracy in it's essence.

not corrupt representatives and all the lobby.

and that's what was this thread was about, to get back to a working way in which the 'will of the people' is expressed which can also be upgraded to avoid 'mob rule'
 Quoting: VenusRose


It's funny to us Americans when you liberally indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texan'

epiclol
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like u know, only way to get rid of the elites might be
a true world-wide democracy leveraging on the tech we now have to achieve this...

tech used for the good of the people this time, since it's a tool like any other
 Quoting: VenusRose


democracy is not the answer, democracy is flawed, democracy is mob rule.

the mob are idiots and easily propagandized. the entire gov system is out date in the age of the internet when we all could vote on critical issues instead or relying on remote, greedy, self serving corrupted and lobbied representatives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81000474


is funny you say democracy is flawed, then you say we could all vote with tech :)

what is called now democracy is flawed i agree.

the original concept of democracy comes from 2000 years ago in Athens Greece

but it's actually an innate thing to decent human beings.

if you and 5 friends wanna decide where to go tonight, one way or another you gonna vote for it, so that s democracy in it's essence.

not corrupt representatives and all the lobby.

and that's what was this thread was about, to get back to a working way in which the 'will of the people' is expressed which can also be upgraded to avoid 'mob rule'
 Quoting: VenusRose


It's funny to us American when you liberal indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texans'

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77041831


lol give me a break, i've lived my first 10 years in communism, i know what that is much better than you :)

also we have only 30% vaxxed, not sure where texas is at, but for sure we re doing much better than america as a whole in this respect :)
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$3.50

Look another shill creating "what if" fairy tale scenarios to justify destroying the Constitution instead of castrating the government at every facet to scale back their power to the 10th Amendment by reverting back to common law as intended instead of OP's bullshit game plan like Trump's TRUST THE PLAN PSY-OP that he never disavowed or acknowledged by design to play right into the enemy's hands by cutting off our nose to spite our face

trump-wng1
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you re not reading. i m all for making that 10th amendment work at world-wide scale and any other imaginable checks that would limit the power of governments, corporations and other such fictions over real human beings
 Quoting: VenusRose


Lady listen, I only deal in reality and we need to focus on America first before we start rescuing Europe again

I was the first one here years ago to call bullshit on Trump's DEPORTATION FORCE knowing darn well it would require a military style draft in support personnel just to augment the logistics that would be required to deport 10 million illegal aliens let alone the other 40 million the Republican Sanctuary City Mayors pretend don't exist either proving both sides of the political aisle are complicit in industrialized human trafficking on a Biblical scale to hollow out our electoral process by silencing US through the nullification of our votes

America needs to handle her business before she starts rescuing our allies again otherwise freedom dies

vendetta
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well, i'm actually from romania so what can i say

do what u gotta do to get america back. and we talk after :)
 Quoting: VenusRose


This actually apples to this comment as well

It's funny to us Americans when you liberally indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texan'
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democracy is not the answer, democracy is flawed, democracy is mob rule.

the mob are idiots and easily propagandized. the entire gov system is out date in the age of the internet when we all could vote on critical issues instead or relying on remote, greedy, self serving corrupted and lobbied representatives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81000474


is funny you say democracy is flawed, then you say we could all vote with tech :)

what is called now democracy is flawed i agree.

the original concept of democracy comes from 2000 years ago in Athens Greece

but it's actually an innate thing to decent human beings.

if you and 5 friends wanna decide where to go tonight, one way or another you gonna vote for it, so that s democracy in it's essence.

not corrupt representatives and all the lobby.

and that's what was this thread was about, to get back to a working way in which the 'will of the people' is expressed which can also be upgraded to avoid 'mob rule'
 Quoting: VenusRose


It's funny to us American when you liberal indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texans'

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77041831


lol give me a break, i've lived my first 10 years in communism, i know what that is much better than you :)

also we have only 30% vaxxed, not sure where texas is at, but for sure we re doing much better than america as a whole in this respect :)
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Touche'

I had to make sure you weren't a shill bot

So you agree that China has basically won without firing a shot as we see in Australia and Canada knowing damn well America is right behind?

cheers
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The world is not the solution, the world is the problem.
Democrazy is not the solution, democrazy is the problem.

There is only one solution, that is King Jesus.
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and Jesus works through and for the people
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He works through vessels for His Kingdom, not for the world. The world is lost to satan. It's destiny is spelled out in the Bible. My home is heavenly Jerusalem.
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is funny you say democracy is flawed, then you say we could all vote with tech :)

what is called now democracy is flawed i agree.

the original concept of democracy comes from 2000 years ago in Athens Greece

but it's actually an innate thing to decent human beings.

if you and 5 friends wanna decide where to go tonight, one way or another you gonna vote for it, so that s democracy in it's essence.

not corrupt representatives and all the lobby.

and that's what was this thread was about, to get back to a working way in which the 'will of the people' is expressed which can also be upgraded to avoid 'mob rule'
 Quoting: VenusRose


It's funny to us American when you liberal indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texans'

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77041831


lol give me a break, i've lived my first 10 years in communism, i know what that is much better than you :)

also we have only 30% vaxxed, not sure where texas is at, but for sure we re doing much better than america as a whole in this respect :)
 Quoting: VenusRose


Touche'

I had to make sure you weren't a shill bot

So you agree that China has basically won without firing a shot as we see in Australia and Canada knowing damn well America is right behind?

cheers
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Yes situation is shitty right now. Here in Romania suddenly they're trying to make us am example of how many 'die' cause people don t want to get vaxxed. So we re having like record numbers right now.

Good part is here people are really sensible to communist methods cause we had a very rough version back in the day.

For example they re doing polls asking parent s if they agree to vax their children.

87% are against, 7% are for :)
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It's funny to us American when you liberal indoctrinated Europeans regurgitate the DEMOCRAT talking point about this Constitutional Republic being a DEMOCRACY

'laughs in Texans'

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77041831


lol give me a break, i've lived my first 10 years in communism, i know what that is much better than you :)

also we have only 30% vaxxed, not sure where texas is at, but for sure we re doing much better than america as a whole in this respect :)
 Quoting: VenusRose


Touche'

I had to make sure you weren't a shill bot

So you agree that China has basically won without firing a shot as we see in Australia and Canada knowing damn well America is right behind?

cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77041831


Yes situation is shitty right now. Here in Romania suddenly they're trying to make us am example of how many 'die' cause people don t want to get vaxxed. So we re having like record numbers right now.

Good part is here people are really sensible to communist methods cause we had a very rough version back in the day.

For example they re doing polls asking parent s if they agree to vax their children.

87% are against, 7% are for :)
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Yes doctors and nurses all over the world are following illegal orders by allowing their patients to die through gross malfeasance and malpractice for not treating their dying patients with the most basic medication no different than how the Russians with religious heritage to Israel used mental illness during their Marxist Revolution a century ago to arrest Christian political opponents and commit mass genocide that makes the German Holocaust look like a picnic in comparison

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I hate the NWO and the freaks with a passion but this Disposable Consumerism, resource plundering, greed for money, endless population growth trajectory we are currently on isn't sustainable, something was going to have to give eventually.
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Isolationism would cure our economic woes,
Conserve our resources
Clean up our environment
Put Americans back to work
Open up many business opportunities
Save our children
Prevent us from interfering with other nations business
Lessen our carbon footprint
Solve trade tax problems
Allow us to get our shit together

I’m sure there are more pros
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I hate the NWO and the freaks with a passion but this Disposable Consumerism, resource plundering, greed for money, endless population growth trajectory we are currently on isn't sustainable, something was going to have to give eventually.
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I cant help but feel that disposable consumerism, resource plundering and greed which are exalted in most isms are the reasons why there might be an issue with endless population growth.

The only way any of this ever changes is if we actually act. Protesting to revert back to what has failed the people in the past seems so counter productive to me. The only sensible thing to do is to create a better way, such as one that is not ground in materialism or any other current or past ism for that matter.
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How bout no?
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Absolutely not! These people are not to be trusted. We are headed to a really bad future if it’s not stopped immediately
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Totally.

However that would require a level of unity that doesn't exist within the species. Yet.

Humans are not ready for this at this stage, unfortunately. Most still need to be led.
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it's like in chemistry you need to get the critical mass.

think about it, how many people that can think with their own brain do you think are on earth now?

1 million? 10 million?

get those together connected through a dedicated platform and you ll put together the entire brain power of humanity.

the rest will just follow what those will produce together
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Demonstration of this principle was clearly indicated on the GCP plot from October 4, 2021.
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Totally.

However that would require a level of unity that doesn't exist within the species. Yet.

Humans are not ready for this at this stage, unfortunately. Most still need to be led.
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it's like in chemistry you need to get the critical mass.

think about it, how many people that can think with their own brain do you think are on earth now?

1 million? 10 million?

get those together connected through a dedicated platform and you ll put together the entire brain power of humanity.

the rest will just follow what those will produce together
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Demonstration of this principle was clearly indicated on the GCP plot from October 4, 2021.
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I am also a large proponent of the 100th monkey effect. Reaching a critical mass is in essence creating a dominant field, which has been done already against us via TV, public schooling, violent video games, etc. We are getting exactly what we are focusing on, which is of course created for and to control us.

I look at the Q movement the same way, consider their 'great awakening' pitch. They too are manipulating consciousness on a mas scale. However I am unsure that Q is simply not an extension of the either or paradigm that they constantly trap us in. I am leery that if there were to be an anti-christ like figure, it could arise from a movement such as Q because of the way the movement might be able to bring together a massive amount of people under the guise of battling world-wide corruption in a sort of evil sacrificing itself to further its own agenda. Yet another altered form of the hegelian dialectic.

Which is why I see parallel structures and mass prayer or consciousness manipulation as two very good strategies to combat what is coming. Both are ground in spirituality, which may be just what we need to flip the materialistic paradigm that is enabling all the corruption and ultimately enslaving us.

Not very familiar with the GCP plot of 10/4/21, could you fill me in or at least leave a link? Thank you.
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Re: what if the way to go forward is...
to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose


That's called the Great Reset.

Hello, Klaus?

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to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose


Dude they been planning this shit for 500 years now.. they own all of the world governments and wil jsut get their pupputs to enact new rules against you to bring the military in to enforce it.

WAKE THE FUCK UP- there is no stopping this now.. ppl waited too long, think this was a joke or "pandemic:" NO they control everything about you now worldwide- and not a damn thing you can do about it except load some ammo and go out with glory.
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to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose



Way ahead of you fam


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to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose


I like this idea.

But it would need to be legally ratified, and enforceable. And for that, we would need politicians who back the idea and sign the new constitution into law, both within their own countries, then at the U.N General Assembly (assuming none of the Big 5 veto it).

It could work, but it would be a very interesting, and complex, road ahead once the petition gets the numbers.
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Totally.

However that would require a level of unity that doesn't exist within the species. Yet.

Humans are not ready for this at this stage, unfortunately. Most still need to be led.
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Those that survive the great Reset, will probably be able to unify globally. It’s going to be a world wide war of Good Vs Evil, and nation states will be destroyed per their own plans
Communism shall never prevail.

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IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
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STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra
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to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose


Keep dreaming. TPTB control pretty much everything, including the fabric of internet. It will never happen. The only way out is to go Galt. Unfortunately there is still lot of brainwashed sheep that support the existing system.
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make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?
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It must go further. We could try it with abandoning all leaders and the leadership itself, like it is in a brain.

All neurons in a brain are equal, there are no leader-neurons in a brain, the brain works great without leaders.

How can we achive this?

Nobody should try to be a leader, and nobody should accept someone who tries to be a leader.

We can solve problems like the neurons do:
With communication, with discussion.

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I hate the NWO and the freaks with a passion but this Disposable Consumerism, resource plundering, greed for money, endless population growth trajectory we are currently on isn't sustainable, something was going to have to give eventually.
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I cant help but feel that disposable consumerism, resource plundering and greed which are exalted in most isms are the reasons why there might be an issue with endless population growth.

The only way any of this ever changes is if we actually act. Protesting to revert back to what has failed the people in the past seems so counter productive to me. The only sensible thing to do is to create a better way, such as one that is not ground in materialism or any other current or past ism for that matter.
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The thing is, what was, at least in the beginning was solid. Things failed because the elites kept undermining and corrupting the government. The founders never intended for corporations to ever get bigger then governments, and safeguards were in place.

They never intended politicians to become a career, more like a term limited meeting only a few times.

Same with a standing military, never was intended. Only a National Guard was intended. The government would just call up people for duty when needed.

All of these things and more were changed by the elites.
Communism shall never prevail.

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IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
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Re: what if the way to go forward is...
I hate the NWO and the freaks with a passion but this Disposable Consumerism, resource plundering, greed for money, endless population growth trajectory we are currently on isn't sustainable, something was going to have to give eventually.
 Quoting: Idaho Potato


I cant help but feel that disposable consumerism, resource plundering and greed which are exalted in most isms are the reasons why there might be an issue with endless population growth.

The only way any of this ever changes is if we actually act. Protesting to revert back to what has failed the people in the past seems so counter productive to me. The only sensible thing to do is to create a better way, such as one that is not ground in materialism or any other current or past ism for that matter.
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The thing is, what was, at least in the beginning was solid. Things failed because the elites kept undermining and corrupting the government. The founders never intended for corporations to ever get bigger then governments, and safeguards were in place.

They never intended politicians to become a career, more like a term limited meeting only a few times.

Same with a standing military, never was intended. Only a National Guard was intended. The government would just call up people for duty when needed.

All of these things and more were changed by the elites.
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So how do we safeguard against the same thing happening again in the future utilizing the same system that ultimately failed in the first place? Especially with how our history seems to repeat in a cyclic nature. This is the ultimate question that I am afraid does not have an answer and those who defend our constitutional republic do not want to consider. As long as you have a representative and a system that promotes materialism over everything else, it is hard to conclude that we would get different results. Shouldnt the goal be to improve the future instead of dooming it to past mistakes?

I have to wonder, do we have the opportunity here to 'break the wheel' to borrow from a very well known series? Would people even desire to do so? If so, would they be willing to put the required work in to manifest a system that actually gives power back to the people as opposed to a select few?

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Re: what if the way to go forward is...
to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

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YEAH, PERFECT. And we could CALL it..


THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!


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Re: what if the way to go forward is...
to tackle tptb and globalist at global level?

to crowdsource a world constitution for the 3rd millennium by the people of the earth?

make the entire process transparent and immutable on blockchain

make a world wide petition and gather like 100 mln or more signatures worldwide and ask u.n. and states for world-wide referendum to vote for the new Constitution?

and of course, the Constitution would be in the spirit of the American Constitution just for the World we live in now. It would have everything clear to guarantee our freedoms and much more

thoughts?
 Quoting: VenusRose


careful there, op.

Toni Lane Casserly had pretty much the same idea, now she's dead.

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Totally.

However that would require a level of unity that doesn't exist within the species. Yet.

Humans are not ready for this at this stage, unfortunately. Most still need to be led.
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Yup there are plenty of people that have transcended tribalism, nationalism, religionism, ideologyism and could usefully exist within a globalised .......... I hesitate to say government, but a globalised superstructure of some kind.


..........................but there are BILLIONS more who absolutely have not and never will transcend these things - if we were ever to treat them as equals they would eat us alive.
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