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Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?

 
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82859697


And you "Russia Bad, Zelenskyy good" blind propaganda flutes are anything BUT hilarious - pathetic comes to mind.

I could barely give two rotten fucks for Putin, or his politics - same as any OTHER politics, though I will say if they're in any way honest then at least the Russian government, as corrupt as they are like every OTHER government, have SOME sense of values and morals, unlike the US OR CANADIAN governments currently in power.

I'm talking about the ACTUAL RESULTS, regardless of the crap you seem to believe. COMMON SENSE dicates that Russia not shit where it eats - having a smoking crater on your border doesn't accomplish much.

And while Zelenskyy and Nato are doing EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER to force a hot war, Russia continues to take losses rather than use tactics that would cause more destruction and collateral damage.

If you don't think they have the capacity, then you're FAR more stupid than you appear - which would be impressive - but then again, your OPINION, like mine, makes NO difference. Nobody BUT Russia currently gives a fuck about the Ukranian people, and THAT is a fact - so let's see how well they do when NATO finally gets their way and gives Russia no choice.

But you feel free to listen to Biden and his idiot children... err, I mean cabinet... and their TRANSPARENT lies, while they take the money from YOUR pocket in the name of "Helping the Ukraine..." not sure how using the Ukraine to steal that money back is HELPING them but I'm sure they'll spin it somehow, just like everything else.

Consequences - I sure wish people still understood the word.

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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Just nods and smiles at the hissers and mutterers, and remember that the west are still under Bolzhev!k axis of evil regimes.

This is why they cuts off RT because of truth, for truth is light.

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And he will lift up a sign to the nations, and he will gather together the fugitives of Israel, and he will collect the dispersed of Judah [English and Irish] from the four regions of the earth.

And the envy of Ephraim [Russian] will be taken away, and the enemies of Judah [British Anglo-Saxons Barbarian] will perish. Ephraim [Russia] will not be a rival to Judah [England & Ireland], and Judah will not fight against Ephraim.

And they will fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines through the sea; together they will plunder the sons of the east. Idumea and Moab will be under the rule of their hand, and the sons of Ammon will be obedient. - Isaiah 11:12-14
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Devastating the US...completely wiping out the economy draining our oil reserves gifted the NATO over seas.
Drain our military supplies....known to come from China. An Arch Enemy and one siding with Russia.

China make most of the part our military runs on.

Block our supply chain and assist on creating food and resources the population live on.

I feel both the current US administration and Russia's are working together to accomplish the destruction.
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The myth that won't die.

"Derp, china made my TV and iphone so they must make all the electronics, derp."

Just one question...

If china makes all our military parts, then why do they have to spy, hack and steal all our military designs?

Protip, they don't make ANY of our military parts beyond raw material resource exports.
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
 Quoting: RestoreTheAnger


!!! Exactly correct!!! Mainstream media is doing the lying! In 2012 Ovomit repeled the Smith-Mundt act, a law that made it illegal for the government to use mainstream media to spread propaganda- this law was put in effect after WW2 - so, that is why it is now legal for the government to use the media to lie to everyone!
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Fool, Russia is a hollowed out shell with all the substance of value stolen by the elites, they treat the public like their treat the soldiers, they are expendable and not worthy of any rights or support as long as they can be exploited and then discarded.
YOU op are a sucker for Russian propaganda, unaware of the harsh reality of Russian culture which is dependent on making everyone not in the elite or serving the elite directly, into a serf or slave.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82859697


And you "Russia Bad, Zelenskyy good" blind propaganda flutes are anything BUT hilarious - pathetic comes to mind.

I could barely give two rotten fucks for Putin, or his politics - same as any OTHER politics, though I will say if they're in any way honest then at least the Russian government, as corrupt as they are like every OTHER government, have SOME sense of values and morals, unlike the US OR CANADIAN governments currently in power.

I'm talking about the ACTUAL RESULTS, regardless of the crap you seem to believe. COMMON SENSE dicates that Russia not shit where it eats - having a smoking crater on your border doesn't accomplish much.

And while Zelenskyy and Nato are doing EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER to force a hot war, Russia continues to take losses rather than use tactics that would cause more destruction and collateral damage.

If you don't think they have the capacity, then you're FAR more stupid than you appear - which would be impressive - but then again, your OPINION, like mine, makes NO difference. Nobody BUT Russia currently gives a fuck about the Ukranian people, and THAT is a fact - so let's see how well they do when NATO finally gets their way and gives Russia no choice.

But you feel free to listen to Biden and his idiot children... err, I mean cabinet... and their TRANSPARENT lies, while they take the money from YOUR pocket in the name of "Helping the Ukraine..." not sure how using the Ukraine to steal that money back is HELPING them but I'm sure they'll spin it somehow, just like everything else.

Consequences - I sure wish people still understood the word.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Where did I say anything about the politics of the issue?

You can keep your whataboutism.

Your wall of text does not address any of your original bullshit points that I directly refuted.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83201504


They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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68 million Americans receive some form of government assistance.

Who is living in poverty?
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


I'm not poor but Trump kept sending me "Free" money so I guess I did receive government assistance. Trump was also supporting 1.5 million illegal caravan migrants for years and passed the "Free" $$ torch to Biden. One of the few things both Presidents agree on.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83201504


They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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This ^^^^

Apparently they're not even using AWACS type aircraft, that's why Ukrainians still have an airforce, even though they had only like a hundred Soviet-era planes.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83201504


They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
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This ^^^^

Apparently they're not even using AWACS type aircraft, that's why Ukrainians still have an airforce, even though they had only like a hundred Soviet-era planes.
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blacked dot com very popular in polen

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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83201504


They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80035014


This ^^^^

Apparently they're not even using AWACS type aircraft, that's why Ukrainians still have an airforce, even though they had only like a hundred Soviet-era planes.
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They only have 2 Beriev A-100s...
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83201504


They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80035014


This ^^^^

Apparently they're not even using AWACS type aircraft, that's why Ukrainians still have an airforce, even though they had only like a hundred Soviet-era planes.
 Quoting: Kagnimir 81579271


They only have 2 Beriev A-100s...
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nato has 1000's of B07BKBCFDL
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Russia is doing exactly what Biden and the Military Industrial Complex want them to do.

Think about it.

If Russia didn't invade there would not be a $40 billion bribery package sitting in Congress right now.

Who benefits from Russia's invasion?

Oh that's right, the USA Deep State and Defense Industry does.

Putin gave Biden everything he could have ever wanted and more by invading.

Wag the Dog, bribery and kickbacks, disinformation Czar. It's a dream come true for the Dems.

They fucking love it.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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They are losing, your Russian propaganda pretending they are not.

Only way Russia can win this war if they completely wipe out Ukraine from the map, which they can't/won't for fuck ton of reasons so enjoy your loss Putin lover.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Read ‘the art of war’:

‘Where you a strong, feign weakness’..
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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This!
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Russia is doing exactly what Biden and the Military Industrial Complex want them to do.

Think about it.

If Russia didn't invade there would not be a $40 billion bribery package sitting in Congress right now.

Who benefits from Russia's invasion?

Oh that's right, the USA Deep State and Defense Industry does.

Putin gave Biden everything he could have ever wanted and more by invading.

Wag the Dog, bribery and kickbacks, disinformation Czar. It's a dream come true for the Dems.

They fucking love it.
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post from hebron or herzliya....keyboard slathered in hummus and anaesthetic anal lube
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Russia --> sideways <-- Ukraine
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AC sideways MSM
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82859697


And you "Russia Bad, Zelenskyy good" blind propaganda flutes are anything BUT hilarious - pathetic comes to mind.

I could barely give two rotten fucks for Putin, or his politics - same as any OTHER politics, though I will say if they're in any way honest then at least the Russian government, as corrupt as they are like every OTHER government, have SOME sense of values and morals, unlike the US OR CANADIAN governments currently in power.

I'm talking about the ACTUAL RESULTS, regardless of the crap you seem to believe. COMMON SENSE dicates that Russia not shit where it eats - having a smoking crater on your border doesn't accomplish much.

And while Zelenskyy and Nato are doing EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER to force a hot war, Russia continues to take losses rather than use tactics that would cause more destruction and collateral damage.

If you don't think they have the capacity, then you're FAR more stupid than you appear - which would be impressive - but then again, your OPINION, like mine, makes NO difference. Nobody BUT Russia currently gives a fuck about the Ukranian people, and THAT is a fact - so let's see how well they do when NATO finally gets their way and gives Russia no choice.

But you feel free to listen to Biden and his idiot children... err, I mean cabinet... and their TRANSPARENT lies, while they take the money from YOUR pocket in the name of "Helping the Ukraine..." not sure how using the Ukraine to steal that money back is HELPING them but I'm sure they'll spin it somehow, just like everything else.

Consequences - I sure wish people still understood the word.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Where did I say anything about the politics of the issue?

You can keep your whataboutism.

Your wall of text does not address any of your original bullshit points that I directly refuted.
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"Wall of text..." and there it is. Typical children these days. "D'uhhh... TL;DR."

THe POLITICS of the situation is what is DRIVING the tactics, which I already addressed. You haven't refuted anything, you just keep giving an opinion.

laugh

Go back to your games. If "the politics" is too hard for you then the rest of the conversation is moot, and I have better things to do.

(Oh, and yeah, I know, you're gonna do the "I WON" dance - have fun with that LOL! )

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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
Russia isn’t losing. They’re just not making any progress. Think Afghanistan.

They’re not making progress because NATO is funneling arms and resources into the country at a geometric rate.

Any gains are immediately scrubbed by our totally dishonest media.

The propaganda war is having great influence on the minds of the Russian people. Cracks are beginning to form and Putin is losing support among the people and the military.

Putin is also showing great restraint in what arms and tactics he uses. He doesn’t want to make Ukraine a radioactive wasteland. That would defeat the purpose of the invasion to begin with.

Though, if things keep going this way, he will use nuclear weapons to attack NATO countries. It’s a fact that this has been threatened multiple times recently and we have to choice but to take that threat seriously. Putin isn’t some North Korean blowhard. He tends to follow through with his threats as he did with the Ukrainian invasion.

Everyone speaks of mutually assured destruction. Perhaps that’s true. With that being said, even if multiple inbound nuclear warheads are intercepted, it’s doubtful they all could be.

The west will take a few. If one of those are a high yield Satan, you can pretty much kiss that nation goodbye.

Will it be Finland? Will it be London? Who knows.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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Yep, nailed it! Putin doesn't even have cancer, he's just faking it. All the troops he sent in to die were traitors to Russia and that was the easiest way to get rid of them all.
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83201504


They are not pretending anything. They are losing. They are using WW2 tactics and equiment on a 2022 battlefield. Their troops are unmotived and they live in poverty. The Russian elite have stolen everything from their people and expect them to offer their lives for their luxury yachts. The Russian state has failed it’s people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80035014


And how is the any different than the USA? Are you ready to give your life for a war with Russia? China? Or, whatever boogeyman the GenBoo population parades in front of you?
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They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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They are losing, your Russian propaganda pretending they are not.

Only way Russia can win this war if they completely wipe out Ukraine from the map, which they can't/won't for fuck ton of reasons so enjoy your loss Putin lover.
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Really…they are…why? Because YOU are told they are…does not compute what I say so you call me a Putin lover… no fuck you, fuck Ukraine and fuck Russia.
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Good excuse to drop some nukes? We had too, we were backed into a corner and had lost all of our traditional military.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82859697


And you "Russia Bad, Zelenskyy good" blind propaganda flutes are anything BUT hilarious - pathetic comes to mind.

I could barely give two rotten fucks for Putin, or his politics - same as any OTHER politics, though I will say if they're in any way honest then at least the Russian government, as corrupt as they are like every OTHER government, have SOME sense of values and morals, unlike the US OR CANADIAN governments currently in power.

I'm talking about the ACTUAL RESULTS, regardless of the crap you seem to believe. COMMON SENSE dicates that Russia not shit where it eats - having a smoking crater on your border doesn't accomplish much.

And while Zelenskyy and Nato are doing EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER to force a hot war, Russia continues to take losses rather than use tactics that would cause more destruction and collateral damage.

If you don't think they have the capacity, then you're FAR more stupid than you appear - which would be impressive - but then again, your OPINION, like mine, makes NO difference. Nobody BUT Russia currently gives a fuck about the Ukranian people, and THAT is a fact - so let's see how well they do when NATO finally gets their way and gives Russia no choice.

But you feel free to listen to Biden and his idiot children... err, I mean cabinet... and their TRANSPARENT lies, while they take the money from YOUR pocket in the name of "Helping the Ukraine..." not sure how using the Ukraine to steal that money back is HELPING them but I'm sure they'll spin it somehow, just like everything else.

Consequences - I sure wish people still understood the word.

penguin
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All those capitalized words really help drive home your point. jerkit
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
The most strange thing is that zelensky and the command in Kiev is still living. The russians are not bombing them, they hardly attack kiev.

It is not by accident, it is by planning.

And all those dweeps who think russia is losing.. lol
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I figure there has to be a hidden plan at work. Some misdirection... is it true they sent their old tanks in first as bait, and they're still holding their real army behind, waiting? Waiting for what? For nato to get sucked in thanks to overconfidence, so they can knock Biden out once and for all? The more I think about it, the more it seems like that's the only thing that makes sense?
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The elinsky schlong suckers watch too much msm & are brain dead, nato just keeps sending antique equipment that Russia uses as target practice, meanwhile Politicians send billions in cash which goes out the back door into their pockets, if you depend on msm for information you'll continue to be an idiot...
" Sonny Liston is nothing. The man can't talk. The man can't fight. The man needs to take talking lessons. The man needs to take fighting lessons. And since he's fighting me, he needs falling lessons."

Muhammad Ali...
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
But it could be bollocks because the BRICS country have an alliance similar to NATO in that if one of the countries is attacked the other within BRICS would attack together -

Now Brazil, India, China, Iran as well as countries such as Venezuela etc could suddenly launch attacks. This would mean a multiple front around the world that would scatter the NATO forces……………nothing.

At the same time if NATO was serious as well as troop buildup in eastern Europe we would be seeing mass troop movement to Alaska and mass buildup north of Norway etc. again something doesn’t make sense. No Russian citizens are being expelled from western countries and considering the threat of nuclear this would be the first action………. Nothing.

We need to look at who is suffering - we the people are the ones suffering yet again………..why didn’t Russia invade 12 months ago when the rest of the world was in turmoil during lockdowns which would have severely restricted troop movements etc, even creating health hazards when the ‘pandemic’ was at its worse simply because it would have made viral spread far easier if 10,000s of troops were masses together.

None of it makes sense.
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Wasnt India and China though just about to go to war just a year or so ago?? So they are suppose to cooperate?
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Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
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And you "Russia Bad, Zelenskyy good" blind propaganda flutes are anything BUT hilarious - pathetic comes to mind.

I could barely give two rotten fucks for Putin, or his politics - same as any OTHER politics, though I will say if they're in any way honest then at least the Russian government, as corrupt as they are like every OTHER government, have SOME sense of values and morals, unlike the US OR CANADIAN governments currently in power.

I'm talking about the ACTUAL RESULTS, regardless of the crap you seem to believe. COMMON SENSE dicates that Russia not shit where it eats - having a smoking crater on your border doesn't accomplish much.

And while Zelenskyy and Nato are doing EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER to force a hot war, Russia continues to take losses rather than use tactics that would cause more destruction and collateral damage.

If you don't think they have the capacity, then you're FAR more stupid than you appear - which would be impressive - but then again, your OPINION, like mine, makes NO difference. Nobody BUT Russia currently gives a fuck about the Ukranian people, and THAT is a fact - so let's see how well they do when NATO finally gets their way and gives Russia no choice.

But you feel free to listen to Biden and his idiot children... err, I mean cabinet... and their TRANSPARENT lies, while they take the money from YOUR pocket in the name of "Helping the Ukraine..." not sure how using the Ukraine to steal that money back is HELPING them but I'm sure they'll spin it somehow, just like everything else.

Consequences - I sure wish people still understood the word.

penguin
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Where did I say anything about the politics of the issue?

You can keep your whataboutism.

Your wall of text does not address any of your original bullshit points that I directly refuted.
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"Wall of text..." and there it is. Typical children these days. "D'uhhh... TL;DR."

THe POLITICS of the situation is what is DRIVING the tactics, which I already addressed. You haven't refuted anything, you just keep giving an opinion.

laugh

Go back to your games. If "the politics" is too hard for you then the rest of the conversation is moot, and I have better things to do.

(Oh, and yeah, I know, you're gonna do the "I WON" dance - have fun with that LOL! )

penguin
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Still refuted.

Cope harder.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
They are not pretending anything…your MSM is
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Says the Putin Puffer.
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Talking to you. Fuck the New World Order.

That's who Putin is fighting. And will win because the New World Order army is a bunch of 20-something Ph gg boys like you.

You mf, talk is cheap when you have to bleed.
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Re: Why is Russia pretending to lose so badly? What trick are they pulling?
If you wanted to annex (or FREE, as the case may be) a neighbour country comprised of mostly your countrymen, with as little damage to infrastructure and civilian life as possible, what would you do?

You would use conventional ground units and tactics, move slowly, consolidate territory and have engineers repairing critical infrastructure as you go. Sound familiar?

Or look at it this way - If your brother in law is an abusive asshole and wants to join a group of thugs that will then try to take over YOUR house, do you carpet bomb that house with your sister, nieces and nephews in it? Or do you go in, take out the brother in law, and make sure the thugs won't try anything?

I swear - too many "COD Generals" that have no idea what is ACTUALLY at stake.

penguin
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Like their "Kyiv feint"? Like the over 1000 missiles fired before april? Like their carpet bombing of mariupol and kharkiv?

You Putin apologists are fucking hilarious.
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Its a kick watching 20-somethings go full war hawk when we all know, push comes to shove, you 20-something pussies would be the first on the street protesting a military draft to fight Putin.

Who the fuck are you kidding you over weight fat fuck?





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