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Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?

 
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Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Has anyone else noticed this trend? Over my short time on this planet I've met about 5 guitar collectors who all shared a similar quark.. they seem to only have strats and around two dozen of them at least.. and they're all bo0mers

I don't get it. There's a regular strat and super strat. Maybe you have a super strat with or without a middle single coil. Maybe you have a humbucker bridge and the other two single coils. But other than those 3 or 4 variations there's no point in owning more strats. Why not buy other guitars too to get more tonal variety??

It's like strats are crack for them and they need to own every color in existence.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
You’ll have to become an old dude to find out
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
don't know man
I love Teles

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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?

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Nice little jam. Teles have the "classic" sound.
He also dialed in the eq for that video. Each amp has its own sound and if you really want to get an amazing tone you gotta adjust the eq
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
I'm a guitarist and i dont care about the name if I find a guitar that plays good and its a new name thats a secret right there
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I'm a guitarist and i dont care about the name if I find a guitar that plays good and its a new name thats a secret right there
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About secrets any one find out any cool shit about guitars that not everyone would know
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?

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Nice little jam. Teles have the "classic" sound.
He also dialed in the eq for that video. Each amp has its own sound and if you really want to get an amazing tone you gotta adjust the eq
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No offense but I can't even tell with a cellphone. I would need to hear it from a good head set or speakers
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?

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Nice little jam. Teles have the "classic" sound.
He also dialed in the eq for that video. Each amp has its own sound and if you really want to get an amazing tone you gotta adjust the eq
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Really whats worked for you with EQ
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Sometimes it’s just a color choice
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
don't know man
I love Teles

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My first ex has a 66 gold lame Strat, and a Tele from Jan of 1952. He also has a couple of Martins.
I don't know any old dudes with only strats. Not sure it's a phenomenon.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
I'm an old dude and I have 1 strat, 2 epies SG and Les paul, 1 ibanez, peavey T-60, 1 Yamaha, 1 alvarez.

None of which I'm very good at, I have extra time on my hands now I should pick them up again.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
If you play in a band or are a serious student.

You need multiple guitars. Usually of he same type.

One is your main instrument.

Two is you back-up.

Three is in the shop waiting of parts.


On stratocasters:


Not all Stratocasters are the same. Some have EMG's




Some have lace sensors:



Some come with a floyd rose

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Some come with a scalloped fretboard,
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And over the years they have come with a variety of neck shapes.

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A stratocaster is a type of guitar like a dog is a type of animal.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
The simple fact is that much of the classic guitar work was done on strats. Good guitarists of old liked them a lot.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Way more options than what you described... tone woods, neck profiles, bridge setups, etc...

I’m not a collector but have owned tons.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
My explanation:

Strats are best for clean or light crunch tones, LP-style guitars are best for heavy distortion. If you play all kinds of styles you'll want all kinds of guitars, but if you only play softer stuff you'll only need strats.

I personally only have one strat and one LP-style electric, the rest of my guitars are acoustics and a dobro. Out of all these the LP clone is the one I use the least. I could live without it, but I keep it around just in case!
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Humbuckerphobia is Real!!!
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Old dude with about 20 guitars and all the recording goodies too.

I think there are two answers to this....

1.) Some guys find a particular guitar they love and keep buying it.

2.0 Fanboy worship shit. The ones that make me lmao are the Gibson fanboys. The least innovative, most overpriced, stuck in the 60s, worse QC on the planet, broken headstock luthiers dream of manufacturers!

Oh...and to the pipe dreamers going on about tone woods...that debate is settled, you're fucking wrong!! Same goes for speaker cabs.

[youtube [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Humbuckerphobia is Real!!!
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rofl5
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Has anyone else noticed this trend? Over my short time on this planet I've met about 5 guitar collectors who all shared a similar quark.. they seem to only have strats and around two dozen of them at least.. and they're all bo0mers

I don't get it. There's a regular strat and super strat. Maybe you have a super strat with or without a middle single coil. Maybe you have a humbucker bridge and the other two single coils. But other than those 3 or 4 variations there's no point in owning more strats. Why not buy other guitars too to get more tonal variety??

It's like strats are crack for them and they need to own every color in existence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79156899


One more observation...Stratocasters are designed more like Minivans...designed to be pretty good at a bunch of different things. If you look at an guitar like an EVH EBMM or his signature Peavey Wolfgang (not the fender shit, that's post sell out for money) that guitar is like a Lamborghini...Its designed to do one thing really fucking well.

I have a couple of minivans in my collection...but most are lambos.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
My b ooma dad has a dozen of the same guitars. I have no idea why. I know he likes to make sure his bank is zeroed out each month, in ancient -American fashion.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
I chased Strats like that for a while until I got my Jeff Beck Sig. strat. It’s perfect and I don’t think about another one unless it has a really unique sparkle finish or something.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
My explanation:

Strats are best for clean or light crunch tones, LP-style guitars are best for heavy distortion. If you play all kinds of styles you'll want all kinds of guitars, but if you only play softer stuff you'll only need strats.

I personally only have one strat and one LP-style electric, the rest of my guitars are acoustics and a dobro. Out of all these the LP clone is the one I use the least. I could live without it, but I keep it around just in case!
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While what you say is correct about the type of tones they create. This has todo with 3 things, the pickups, the controls in the guitar (pots and caps) and the Amplifier...thats it. The shape, and wood have Waaaaaaay less to do with it.

I posted a video above...but look up Jim Lill's YouTube channel. He's a Nashville session guy who did a ton of experiments to prove or disprove tone woods.

Also, to see the same experiments with speaker cabinets, see specter sound studios YouTube channel. He got killer tones out of a cab made of partial board.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Humbuckerphobia is Real!!!
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True that. Some people have a religious faith in single coils.

Meanwhile, my strat has "noiseless single coils" from Mojotone. They're actually drop-in replacement humbuckers, but engineered to look like single coils and to have the same frequency response as vintage single coils.

Not all "noiseless single coils" are any good, but these particular ones get 95 % of the sparkly single-coil tone, without any of the hum. A worthy tradeoff IMO.

Old dude with about 20 guitars and all the recording goodies too.

I think there are two answers to this....

1.) Some guys find a particular guitar they love and keep buying it.

2.0 Fanboy worship shit. The ones that make me lmao are the Gibson fanboys. The least innovative, most overpriced, stuck in the 60s, worse QC on the planet, broken headstock luthiers dream of manufacturers!

Oh...and to the pipe dreamers going on about tone woods...that debate is settled, you're fucking wrong!! Same goes for speaker cabs.

[youtube [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Pretty wood is prettier than ugly wood. And light wood is lighter to lug around than heavy wood.

That's about all the difference wood choice makes for an electric. Maybe there's a 1 % difference in tone, but it's completely swamped by other factors and not worth worrying about.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
My explanation:

Strats are best for clean or light crunch tones, LP-style guitars are best for heavy distortion. If you play all kinds of styles you'll want all kinds of guitars, but if you only play softer stuff you'll only need strats.

I personally only have one strat and one LP-style electric, the rest of my guitars are acoustics and a dobro. Out of all these the LP clone is the one I use the least. I could live without it, but I keep it around just in case!
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While what you say is correct about the type of tones they create. This has todo with 3 things, the pickups, the controls in the guitar (pots and caps) and the Amplifier...thats it. The shape, and wood have Waaaaaaay less to do with it.

I posted a video above...but look up Jim Lill's YouTube channel. He's a Nashville session guy who did a ton of experiments to prove or disprove tone woods.

Also, to see the same experiments with speaker cabinets, see specter sound studios YouTube channel. He got killer tones out of a cab made of partial board.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78988783


No argument there.

The strat has a couple of design quirks that define its sound. One is the lower output pickups that are brighter than the typical humbucker, giving a "chimey" quality. Another is the weirdly angled bridge pickup that sits very close to the bridge for the high E. This gives the bridge pickup a "funky" character you won't find on any other guitars. Finally there's a middle pickup that alone or with one of the others give a sort of "quacky" tone.

The telecaster has that same funky bridge pickup, but lacks the middle pickup. Using it with the other pickup produces a sound not available on the strat, and that's really the only thing that makes the tele special.

Anything with a fat humbucker in bridge position gives you the basic high-gain tone you need for harder music. It doesn't matter if it's an LP clone or a Superstrat or anything else, as long as you have this bridge pickup and it's a good one you're ready to go for heavy distortion.

I honestly think the above sums up 90 % of what anyone needs to know about guitar tone. The rest is just minor differences, and different form factors giving different feels when you play the guitar.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
I'm an old dude and I have 1 strat, 2 epies SG and Les paul, 1 ibanez, peavey T-60, 1 Yamaha, 1 alvarez.

None of which I'm very good at, I have extra time on my hands now I should pick them up again.
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I wish I still had my T-60, that thing was built like a tank.
I bet it's still in tune somewhere

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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
I'm an old dude and I have 1 strat, 2 epies SG and Les paul, 1 ibanez, peavey T-60, 1 Yamaha, 1 alvarez.

None of which I'm very good at, I have extra time on my hands now I should pick them up again.
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I wish I still had my T-60, that thing was built like a tank.
I bet it's still in tune somewhere

dasbier
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I had a Peavey T-15. Gave it away in college.

Stupid move.
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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
everyone knows that the best guitars are made from the shit you find in your shed

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Re: Question for guitarists: What's up with old dudes who have two dozen strats but no other guitars?
Strat control placement is obnoxious.

Short scales and offsets are where it's at.
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Humbuckerphobia is Real!!!
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True that. Some people have a religious faith in single coils.

Meanwhile, my strat has "noiseless single coils" from Mojotone. They're actually drop-in replacement humbuckers, but engineered to look like single coils and to have the same frequency response as vintage single coils.

Not all "noiseless single coils" are any good, but these particular ones get 95 % of the sparkly single-coil tone, without any of the hum. A worthy tradeoff IMO.

Old dude with about 20 guitars and all the recording goodies too.

I think there are two answers to this....

1.) Some guys find a particular guitar they love and keep buying it.

2.0 Fanboy worship shit. The ones that make me lmao are the Gibson fanboys. The least innovative, most overpriced, stuck in the 60s, worse QC on the planet, broken headstock luthiers dream of manufacturers!

Oh...and to the pipe dreamers going on about tone woods...that debate is settled, you're fucking wrong!! Same goes for speaker cabs.

[youtube [link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78988783


Pretty wood is prettier than ugly wood. And light wood is lighter to lug around than heavy wood.

That's about all the difference wood choice makes for an electric. Maybe there's a 1 % difference in tone, but it's completely swamped by other factors and not worth worrying about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79519626


Agreed. Now if they called it "resonating wood" or "sustain wood" that would be a much more accurate representation of the facts than this pie in the sky "tone wood" shit. It makes great marketing and creates a lot of suckers though.

The greats all sound exactly like themselves no matter what guitar they are playing. Watch Pete Thorn on YT play his $150 acoustic.





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