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The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.

 
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OP is pushing Freemasonic Dogma and Duality...

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I was watching a show about symbolism and it was stated that the star of da vid was two overlapping triangles and one represented the feminine and the other represented the masculine, the two overlap which is a symbol of their union.

The union of man and woman. Spiritual and man….

I couldn’t help but remember that when reading about the masculine and feminine Israel in your post.


I have been struggling with the plagues being pounded on the earth by the angels in revelation.

It is possible they are manmade/ bioengineered.

If they just occur naturally it would fit.


Can you explain that?
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Revelation 2:10 states you will have tribulation 10 days which I believe those 10 days really mean 10 years:

I believe there are actually 10 years for the final judgement to come upon the world that breaks down like this:

First you have to understand there are 2 kingdoms of Israel a masculine Israel and a feminine Israel spiritually speaking which are not yet united

So that little strip of land over in the middles east is Judah the southern masculine kingdom and they had to go through the holocaust to enter the land

The united states the most blessed nation of all is the feminine Ephraim birthright holder Israel..as we stated in previous posts that the northern kingdom was also known as "the house of Jacob"

So the beginning of the last 10 years begins with jacobs trouble which is russia/china and 10 nations destroying the jacob Israel/united states and it lasts 3 years...this will be the holocaust the northern kingdom has to go through to become a holy people through the furnace of affliction that it takes to make a holy people....only a small remnant will survive to join with the southern kingdom and the new borders of israel will look like this:

big israel

After that 3 years of "Jacobs trouble" God will begin the 70th week and raise up the 2 anointed with power so they can reunite the 2 kingdoms of Israel as Ezekiel 37 tells us the 2 kingdoms will be reunited. The 2 anointed will lead the people for 1260 days before being killed in the street

We see the dragon satan isn't cast down to earth until the beginning of the 70th week...so will satan be on earth and visible...it would appear so but in the body of a man.

So the beginning of the 10 years is what is called the day of the lord...I believe that is when the rapture comes because the scriptures state those of the Lords are not appointed to his wrath...and I don't believe Jesus is going to be throwing lightning bolts down to show his wrath...he will use Jacobs/united states enemies as his instrument of war on the terrible day of the lord which will be nuclear war.

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"End times" are long gone. They've been over and fulfilled for 2,000 years since the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Preterism seems to be the best lens of interpretation of such scriptures. Investigate books and sites/YouTube channels by people like Don K. Preston, Gary DeMar ("Last Days Madness: Obsession of the Modern Church"), David H. Chilton, James Stuart Russell, etc.

There is not going to be a rapture. Jesus said the time was already at hand, multiple times, back in His day. His kingdom is one "not made with hands" and doesn't come "with observation." It's spiritual, invisible. Believers in Christ today are living in the Kingdom of God.

Eschatologically, there is nothing left that needs to be fulfilled.

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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
"End times" are long gone. They've been over and fulfilled for 2,000 years since the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Preterism seems to be the best lens of interpretation of such scriptures. Investigate books and sites/YouTube channels by people like Don K. Preston, Gary DeMar ("Last Days Madness: Obsession of the Modern Church"), David H. Chilton, James Stuart Russell, etc.

There is not going to be a rapture. Jesus said the time was already at hand, multiple times, back in His day. His kingdom is one "not made with hands" and doesn't come "with observation." It's spiritual, invisible. Believers in Christ today are living in the Kingdom of God.

Eschatologically, there is nothing left that needs to be fulfilled.
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The rapture isn't for everybody so you are more than welcome to come to your own conclusion on the subject...I just so happend to come to a different conclusion.

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Adam was a created being, not a born son.

Thread fail.
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The definition of born is having been given life.
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No, actually not.

Born means comes out of a woman.

If Adam is first born Jesus is the 2nd son.

More fail.
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Adam wasn't born of woman, so your definition of born can't be correct.

Waterman's definition seems correct. Having been given life.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Once we understand that the dividing of Israel was a shadow of the dividing of Adam then we see a hidden mystery: first we have to understand Israel means 1st born son of God and we know Adam was a 1st born son making him an israel.

One division tells secrets of the other division and Vice versa:

dividedkingdom

adameveside1


So we see the feminine comes forth from the masculine through Adam and Eves’ story. If we look at the division of Israel the kingdom the southern kingdom was called Judah which is the masculine israel and would be represented by Adam (the 1st born son). The northern kingdom came forth from Judah making it the feminine israel represented by Eve as she came forth from Adam.

The southern kingdom was only called Judah and is the kingly sceptre line but the northern kingdom went by several names. 3 names the northern kingdom was known by is:

1. The house of Jacob (birthright holder)

2. The house of ephraim (birthright holder)

3. The house of Joseph (birthright holder)

The northern kingdom was called these 3 names but was also known as Israel so how could that be as we see from the story of Eve she was the 2nd born?

The secret is all three Jacob, Ephraim and Joseph received the birthright for 1st born status even though they were classified as 2nd borns. So we see if those northern kingdom 2nd borns are receiving the 1st born status then it would have been possible for Eve to receive the birthright and been recognized as the feminine 1st born half of israel. This way you have a masculine 1st born israel and a 2nd born feminine israel

we are going to explore the purpose of creating a masculine and a feminine israel that was able to reproduce in my next post….
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Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Adam wasn't born of woman, so your definition of born can't be correct.
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You obviously do not know what the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and Tree of Life are.

They are both representative of Mothers.

The Forbidden Fruit being the Zygote by which we were all born.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
1. What is your point or thesis?

2. What is your purpose of your posting?

3. Who do you say that you are?

4. Do you contend that your opinion is Thus sayeth God?
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Israel was not made a nation until after WW2.

May 14, 1948
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Adam wasn't born of woman, so your definition of born can't be correct.
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You obviously do not know what the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and Tree of Life are.

They are both representative of Mothers.

The Forbidden Fruit being the Zygote by which we were all born.
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1. What is your point or thesis?

2. What is your purpose of your posting?

3. Who do you say that you are?

4. Do you contend that your opinion is Thus sayeth God?
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Israel was not made a nation until after WW2.

May 14, 1948
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1. What is your point or thesis?

2. What is your purpose of your posting?

3. Who do you say that you are?

4. Do you contend that your opinion is Thus sayeth God?
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Once we understand that the dividing of Israel was a shadow of the dividing of Adam then we see a hidden mystery: first we have to understand Israel means 1st born son of God and we know Adam was a 1st born son making him an israel.

One division tells secrets of the other division and Vice versa:

dividedkingdom

adameveside1


So we see the feminine comes forth from the masculine through Adam and Eves’ story. If we look at the division of Israel the kingdom the southern kingdom was called Judah which is the masculine israel and would be represented by Adam (the 1st born son). The northern kingdom came forth from Judah making it the feminine israel represented by Eve as she came forth from Adam.

The southern kingdom was only called Judah and is the kingly sceptre line but the northern kingdom went by several names. 3 names the northern kingdom was known by is:

1. The house of Jacob (birthright holder)

2. The house of ephraim (birthright holder)

3. The house of Joseph (birthright holder)

The northern kingdom was called these 3 names but was also known as Israel so how could that be as we see from the story of Eve she was the 2nd born?

The secret is all three Jacob, Ephraim and Joseph received the birthright for 1st born status even though they were classified as 2nd borns. So we see if those northern kingdom 2nd borns are receiving the 1st born status then it would have been possible for Eve to receive the birthright and been recognized as the feminine 1st born half of israel. This way you have a masculine 1st born israel and a 2nd born feminine israel

we are going to explore the purpose of creating a masculine and a feminine israel that was able to reproduce in my next post….
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None of the above has any truth in it all...
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I’m glad you cleared that up for us with that tantalizing rebuttal…lol


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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Israel was not made a nation until after WW2.

May 14, 1948
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"...The first siege of Nebuchadnezzar, in 606 B.C., began the "Servitude of the Nation," which lasted until the summer of 537 B.C. If July 23, 537 B.C. was the time of their release:

-537y 7m 23d
+1 (no year "0")
2483y 9m 21d

1948 5 14

On May 14, 1948, the nation Israel was reestablished on the world scene. A remarkable coincidence. Isaiah appears to have highlighted this very restoration:

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. -Isaiah 11:11, 12

Yet, there is another alternative application of the 2520 years:

The "Desolations of Jerusalem"?

The third siege of Nebuchad-nezzar, in 587 B.C., began the "Desolations of Jerusalem," which lasted until 518 B.C. If August 16, 518 B.C. was the completion of the walls of Jerusalem, then:

-518y 8m 16d
+1 (no year "0")
2483y 9m 21d

1967 6 7

On June 7, 1967, as a result of the Six Day War, the Biblical city of Old Jerusalem was restored to the nation. Another remarkable coincidence!

It should be borne in mind that the "starting" dates are not known precisely to the day. More research needs to be done. But this certainly seems provocative enough to ponder."

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I don’t know what i just read.. sounds like the rambling of a mad man
Either it’s real or it’s not. But it probably is.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Notice in the original King James Bible picture Moses is holding the phalas representing masculine and Aaron the high priest is holding the egg representing the spiritual feminine .....the civil leader/king is always the masculine and the high priest is always the spiritual feminine.

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Moses is also holding the Two Tables of the Testimony, while Aaron has the Breastplate.

Both are representative of DNA and Genomes.

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The Israel from before the Flood was located in what is modern day Quebec.

After Adam left the Garden of Eden, he was taken to North America.

Enoch and Noah lived in Canada, until the Flood took Noah to Asia.
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Well since this thread is totally committed to bullshit, sure, why not.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Adam was a created being, not a born son.

Thread fail.
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The definition of born is having been given life.
 Quoting: waterman


No, actually not.

Born means comes out of a woman.

If Adam is first born Jesus is the 2nd son.

More fail.
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Adam wasn't born of woman, so your definition of born can't be correct.

Waterman's definition seems correct. Having been given life.
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Actually, maybe it's an okay definition, but calling Adam first born is incorrect.

Later. Lol.
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I don’t know what i just read.. sounds like the rambling of a mad man
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
Adam was a created being, not a born son.

Thread fail.
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The definition of born is having been given life.
 Quoting: waterman


No, actually not.

Born means comes out of a woman.

If Adam is first born Jesus is the 2nd son.

More fail.
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Adam wasn't born of woman, so your definition of born can't be correct.

Waterman's definition seems correct. Having been given life.
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No, his whole premise IS WRONG.
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
2 examples of the two anointed being called olive trees meaning they are 2 Israels:


Zechariah 4:

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.



Revelation 11:

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


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The definition of born is having been given life.
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No, actually not.

Born means comes out of a woman.

If Adam is first born Jesus is the 2nd son.

More fail.
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Adam wasn't born of woman, so your definition of born can't be correct.

Waterman's definition seems correct. Having been given life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76964221


Actually, maybe it's an okay definition, but calling Adam first born is incorrect.

Later. Lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76964221


In a world where nobody knows what a woman is, sure, now born can mean any fucking thing.

Jackasses.
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I don’t know what i just read.. sounds like the rambling of a mad man
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Smart Muthas sound like Crazy Muthas to Dumb Muthas.
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Muthas should be in the kitchen or knitting shit
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Re: The purpose of the dividing of Adam and Israel in these end times.
The Israel from before the Flood was located in what is modern day Quebec.

After Adam left the Garden of Eden, he was taken to North America.

Enoch and Noah lived in Canada, until the Flood took Noah to Asia.
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Well since this thread is totally committed to bullshit, sure, why not.
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Waterman is one of the few people on the Planet that can see and access the Genetic Code of the Bible. It is a real thing.

His work of dividing Masculine and Feminine verses will play a key role one day in deciphering the Codons that are embedded in Scripture.

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Will you answer before God

when you cannot even here?
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Men represent Sin. Before Adam the Garden Eden was pure.
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More lies. Adam was fine by himself. Evil came in with Eve.
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Eve fucked a man on this world out of her impatience.. then Adam in his LOVE for her.. fucked a woman. That is the story.. but they broke their celestial agreement and were called back home to Heaven.

all humans fuck up and sin.. ok. and Adam and Eve were not the first humans and God did not make them that way.. the Idea of this sick God in the sky has to go.
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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...
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Repent.
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Romans Chapter 5



Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance;

and perseverance, character; and character, hope.

Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die.

But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—

(For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.

And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.

For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)

Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.

Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.



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...
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Repent.
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I am a perfected being of human origin from Paradise.. I do NOT have to "repent".... and do I take that to be a threat from you? Its implied..
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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