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Lucifer [in the] Sky [with] Demons

 
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This story comes from source inside intelligence community.

Sodium thiopental/Sodium Pentothal was the Chief drug used as a "Truth Serum" but inside intelligence agencies there were rumors persisting that "THE OTHER SIDE" had a better tool.

US Security forces commissioned Sandoz and Albert Hoffman to search for a better substitute with would better lower defenses in the mind ... to reduce resistance and barriers.

LSD was known from ancient Greek Lore as a "Sacramental" substance and reducing barriers.

Sympathomimetic drugs were already used by torture experts like DR Joseph Mengele [doctor of death in Nazi camps] to enhance pain.

The Goal then was to find a "companion drug" to use beside these which would lower any capacity to resist interrogation under torture.


LSD became that drug showing higher success than any other.
Hippies never became alarmed that an illicit drug would be so cheap [50 cents a dose when I was young] that profit on a non-addictive drug would be impossible.

Yet Leary, and crew insisted that it was non-addictive, harmless, and no chromosome damage. {"Politics of Ecstasy" by DR Leary} ...


The bicycle ride and accidental absorption story was published to create a subculture "mythology" that its escape was an ACCIDENT ! Nothing could be farther from the truth.


I must stop now ... continued [maybe] later.
My sources include an intelligence Officer and subjects from McGill where CIA finished the work.
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I have much more but getting kicked out of my internet connection spot.
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weird that some are demons and some are not, god is funny.
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That might be accurate, though I don't know your sources. I experimented with LSD in my 20s (53 now), and it was fun, but after a few trips, it had shown everything it could show me. I get better results from lucid dreaming now.

My trips were always "good," but the novelty wore off, and it keeps you up all night. I even wrote a poem about it...

LSD-25

Lysergic Acid Diethylamide;
Ah! THAT one's mysteries I have oft plied.
I tried it the first time, at twenty-five,
But since that time its allure has declined.

That morning at dawn by the lake's sandy side,
The white spots swimming around in the sky
Were merely leukocytes within my eyes!
(You really, by its grace, CAN look inside.)


Pardon the 18th Century style and scientific terms. That was intentional...
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the Army's on ecstasy so they say
I read all about it in USA Today
They stepped up urine testing to make it go away
'Cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA


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GOD?
oh ...
in a bi-polar, binary, dichotomy, digital sort of a way.
suppose what you call god is godevil?

how is it possible that only 2 options exist?
good/evil
in biology an uncountable number of alternatives exist
but in all electrical gadgets only 2
the smith virus, digital binary code.


yes humans have 2 arms legs and eyes but how would an octopus see things?


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Timothy Leary
a high level asset in mkultra operations so important he is the only operative to ever have his ashes scattered in space by NASA

the hippie guru

acted as chemist supervisor at the Laguna Canyon Lab
the Santa Cruz CA Lab and received a check for 1 million dollars from TavVVVVVVVistock Institute early before Robert Hunter
and Ken Kesey joined in CIA operations inside USA [which is illegal as CIA cannot legally operate inside continental USA but must handover to NSA SS FBI or other enforcement agency]


In the war in Palestine MI-5 flew over Palestinian troops dropping kilos of hashish and opium with pipes to zombify the troops so forces could slaughter them.

Isn/t it amusing the word hashish comes from Arab -ASSASSIN
who ate hash before their political murders, yet potheads insisted its a peace/love drug.

Used in mind control it can be anything
is infamous in historical witchcraft in casting spells.

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Here in Canada the CIA finished its work and I will supply links [very few remain on the net] showing MENGELE lived out his later years in Canada and have a witness at McGill identifying hi, her name is Beatrice and was a volunteer guinea pig at McGill with CIA LSD

This destroyed her life and human fabric

there are many sightings of MENGELE from PSYCHE WARD IN SASKATCHEWAN TO WINNIPEG TO McGill University.
He never disguised himself surgery, nothing looked exactly as his pictures from Germany
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IT COULD ALSO BE OF INTEREST THAT MY INTEL SOURCE STATED ALL SEE EYE A LSD WAS TAGGED WITH A COBALT 60 TRACER SO BLOOD SAMPLES WOULD ALWAYS SHOW THAT THE DONER USED LSD ..... FOR LIFE

sorry caps im tired
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LSD was invented when it was synthesized in a laboratory. It is not easy to make. It takes exotic chemicals and a master's in chemistry to synthesize. No one had it until it was created by Albert Hoffman.

Read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. If I remember correctly, Ken Kesey was a test subject for the drug and took it out into the public. He had Hells Angels and all other kinds of people tripping out on acid in the California forests.
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100 grams of LSD = 1 million doses

this guy & owsley made alot more than that

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Edie Brickell & New Bohemians - What I Am


the purpose of making LSD available with the drop out philosophy [i am informed] was German military industry was worried USA would get ahead

so drugging students and dropping out was advantageous to the German industry

the fed and many military industry in USA are German owned

it would be a travesty for USA to develop their own in German thought

the CIA was German creation mainly the Busche [bush] banking family
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LSD was invented when it was synthesized in a laboratory. It is not easy to make. It takes exotic chemicals and a master's in chemistry to synthesize. No one had it until it was created by Albert Hoffman.

Read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. If I remember correctly, Ken Kesey was a test subject for the drug and took it out into the public. He had Hells Angels and all other kinds of people tripping out on acid in the California forests.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


ive rad all that and 55 yrs more research
LSD existed in ancient Greece, there was a species of ergot with the LSD and without the gangrene [st Anthony's fire] causing toxic elements.
A simple water extraction was used to free the natural LSD
and used in the Elysian rites


as for synthesis ... perhaps some ppl think this industrial society is the first with advanced tech, industry, chemistry, and knowledge, i am not of that camp boots on ground 22 countries investigating archaeological sites, working alongside well known published experts from nazca to giza
i am familiar with '''fake archeology''' and the real thing.


Synthetic LSD isn't new either in my view
but it can be complex to make the SEMI-SYNTHETIC LSD-25
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now a-days with Ergotamine as a pharmaceutical medicine for migraine ... SEMI-SYNTHETIC LSD can be more easily made using this as a starting compound.


we dont find much technical information on chat sites as its usually just idle chat about current events,
sometimes though there are ppl with advanced knowledge and skills


LSD was btw a ''''terror'''''' to many users ... and the CIA discarded many damaged souls in the trash bin and operating with a mafia mob protocol

most of what you think you know is false and even the conspiracy researchers will at some point be confronted with this inescapable truth
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LSD was invented when it was synthesized in a laboratory. It is not easy to make. It takes exotic chemicals and a master's in chemistry to synthesize. No one had it until it was created by Albert Hoffman.

Read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. If I remember correctly, Ken Kesey was a test subject for the drug and took it out into the public. He had Hells Angels and all other kinds of people tripping out on acid in the California forests.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


ive rad all that and 55 yrs more research
LSD existed in ancient Greece, there was a species of ergot with the LSD and without the gangrene [st Anthony's fire] causing toxic elements.
A simple water extraction was used to free the natural LSD
and used in the Elysian rites


as for synthesis ... perhaps some ppl think this industrial society is the first with advanced tech, industry, chemistry, and knowledge, i am not of that camp boots on ground 22 countries investigating archaeological sites, working alongside well known published experts from nazca to giza
i am familiar with '''fake archeology''' and the real thing.


Synthetic LSD isn't new either in my view
but it can be complex to make the SEMI-SYNTHETIC LSD-25
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Please, enlighten us with how to create your simple water extraction LSD. With all your research, you surely found the recipe you're alluding to.
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LSD was invented when it was synthesized in a laboratory. It is not easy to make. It takes exotic chemicals and a master's in chemistry to synthesize. No one had it until it was created by Albert Hoffman.

Read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. If I remember correctly, Ken Kesey was a test subject for the drug and took it out into the public. He had Hells Angels and all other kinds of people tripping out on acid in the California forests.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


ive rad all that and 55 yrs more research
LSD existed in ancient Greece, there was a species of ergot with the LSD and without the gangrene [st Anthony's fire] causing toxic elements.
A simple water extraction was used to free the natural LSD
and used in the Elysian rites


as for synthesis ... perhaps some ppl think this industrial society is the first with advanced tech, industry, chemistry, and knowledge, i am not of that camp boots on ground 22 countries investigating archaeological sites, working alongside well known published experts from nazca to Giza
i am familiar with '''fake archaeology''' and the real thing.


Synthetic LSD isn't new either in my view
but it can be complex to make the SEMI-SYNTHETIC LSD-25
 Quoting: Anonymous 81456366


Please, enlighten us with how to create your simple water extraction LSD. With all your research, you surely found the recipe you're alluding to.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


i read that post ... it clearly states that in '''ancient Greek''' archaeological records show a species of Ergot existed that didn't have the toxic compounds that cause gangrene (St Anthony's Fire) but did have the organic LSD, that Greeks used this in the rites of Elysian fields ...

I suggest re-reading that post and reply appropriately.
Then begin searches in botany for the mentioned specie given your username you should know where to begin, if not Joseph Campbell had a video recorded seminar on this exact topic.

Have you studied botany, chemistry, alchemy, or ancient witchcraft shamanism, or mythology ?

Charles Evans Schultz (a psychotropic botanist) also wrote about this. Are you asking for free info because I charge a fee for reference material interviews or or contract-research, but I've given you quite a bit already so I'm confident that this puts you on the track to discovery without doing the work for you.

=========================================================

my understanding is that the topic should revolve around the military agenda behind LSD

(latter-saints-daze)


making available on campuses nationwide almost for free is an important point ... it shows the military's wish to dose students, promote dropping out of higher education [which Leary did NOT do] ... and when i published the CIA - Laurel Canyon revelations that the military ran the whole peace + love movement through the music industry ... DAVE McGOWAN followed me on another 4um and made a great YouTube on it

========

seems you're SOL now YouTube took it down, but it was only a fraction of what i released ... still i liked it, he mentioned that Jim Morrison [says hes Jesus] couldn't play any instrument.


i see there are several '''other''' similar YouTube but Dave had the right idea.

So ppl were '''''bombed'''' without consent by military drugs, which of course is a criminal conspiracy of ''''assault with a weapons causing bodily harm [the brain]

which carries a penalty similar to murder.






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the damage LSD did to USA is irreversible and indescribable in its scope of damage.
USA might've taken over the world if all those dope heads dying on the street were microbiologists, physicists, astrophysicists, doctors, lawyers, environmental scientists,
and highly skilled advanced specialists in psychiatry, arts, and medical specialties.

Imagine No Imagination, i wonder if you can ?
Because the regurgitated, repetitive, redundant, repugnant, recycled sociopolitical control systems only show that ppl are willing slaves and do not think outside of this plane[t]
into the celestial realm unless its a drug induced fantasy.


We need the most advanced minds highly disciplined and trained to move into a celestial-cosmic setting, ppl on drugs ruin that possibility.

The military has historically [perpetually] taken the highest technological/medical revelations and misused them to control masses rather than allow the transcendence of earth and all it gravity depravity, and certain-death apocalypse as no planet or star lasts forever, but even just the realization of this SHOULD prod ppl to reach for what they know to be possible.


Alcohol and drugs are the greatest impediment to attaining the heavens.

I found this

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Dave McGowan - The Deep State and the Musicians of Laurel Canyon


I havent watched it but know Dave
so IMV its probably alright.
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Thread: Find the Others (Page 2)

not much here but another thread with same title yrs ago was littered with gems, here only Leary's Vid remains blocked.
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LSD was invented when it was synthesized in a laboratory. It is not easy to make. It takes exotic chemicals and a master's in chemistry to synthesize. No one had it until it was created by Albert Hoffman.

Read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. If I remember correctly, Ken Kesey was a test subject for the drug and took it out into the public. He had Hells Angels and all other kinds of people tripping out on acid in the California forests.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


ive rad all that and 55 yrs more research
LSD existed in ancient Greece, there was a species of ergot with the LSD and without the gangrene [st Anthony's fire] causing toxic elements.
A simple water extraction was used to free the natural LSD
and used in the Elysian rites


as for synthesis ... perhaps some ppl think this industrial society is the first with advanced tech, industry, chemistry, and knowledge, i am not of that camp boots on ground 22 countries investigating archaeological sites, working alongside well known published experts from nazca to Giza
i am familiar with '''fake archaeology''' and the real thing.


Synthetic LSD isn't new either in my view
but it can be complex to make the SEMI-SYNTHETIC LSD-25
 Quoting: Anonymous 81456366


Please, enlighten us with how to create your simple water extraction LSD. With all your research, you surely found the recipe you're alluding to.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


i read that post ... it clearly states that in '''ancient Greek''' archaeological records show a species of Ergot existed that didn't have the toxic compounds that cause gangrene (St Anthony's Fire) but did have the organic LSD, that Greeks used this in the rites of Elysian fields ...

I suggest re-reading that post and reply appropriately.
Then begin searches in botany for the mentioned specie given your username you should know where to begin, if not Joseph Campbell had a video recorded seminar on this exact topic.

Have you studied botany, chemistry, alchemy, or ancient witchcraft shamanism, or mythology ?

Charles Evans Schultz (a psychotropic botanist) also wrote about this. Are you asking for free info because I charge a fee for reference material interviews or or contract-research, but I've given you quite a bit already so I'm confident that this puts you on the track to discovery without doing the work for you.

=========================================================

my understanding is that the topic should revolve around the military agenda behind LSD

(latter-saints-daze)


making available on campuses nationwide almost for free is an important point ... it shows the military's wish to dose students, promote dropping out of higher education [which Leary did NOT do] ... and when i published the CIA - Laurel Canyon revelations that the military ran the whole peace + love movement through the music industry ... DAVE McGOWAN followed me on another 4um and made a great YouTube on it

========

seems you're SOL now YouTube took it down, but it was only a fraction of what i released ... still i liked it, he mentioned that Jim Morrison [says hes Jesus] couldn't play any instrument.


i see there are several '''other''' similar YouTube but Dave had the right idea.

So ppl were '''''bombed'''' without consent by military drugs, which of course is a criminal conspiracy of ''''assault with a weapons causing bodily harm [the brain]

which carries a penalty similar to murder.






==================================


the damage LSD did to USA is irreversible and indescribable in its scope of damage.
USA might've taken over the world if all those dope heads dying on the street were microbiologists, physicists, astrophysicists, doctors, lawyers, environmental scientists,
and highly skilled advanced specialists in psychiatry, arts, and medical specialties.

Imagine No Imagination, i wonder if you can ?
Because the regurgitated, repetitive, redundant, repugnant, recycled sociopolitical control systems only show that ppl are willing slaves and do not think outside of this plane[t]
into the celestial realm unless its a drug induced fantasy.


We need the most advanced minds highly disciplined and trained to move into a celestial-cosmic setting, ppl on drugs ruin that possibility.

The military has historically [perpetually] taken the highest technological/medical revelations and misused them to control masses rather than allow the transcendence of earth and all it gravity depravity, and certain-death apocalypse as no planet or star lasts forever, but even just the realization of this SHOULD prod ppl to reach for what they know to be possible.


Alcohol and drugs are the greatest impediment to attaining the heavens.

I found this

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Dave McGowan - The Deep State and the Musicians of Laurel Canyon


I havent watched it but know Dave
so IMV its probably alright.
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I stand by my statement. Some guy a hundred years ago said ice walls around Antartica proved the earth was flat and people still believe him today even though he was proven wrong a billion times over. Making extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. Making extraordinary claims and only willing to present evidence for money to prove it is a con man's game - same as any "free energy" claim.

Intellectual dishonesty grifting 101

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my evidence is published

as by several other authors

PROOF is a fool's game and one this 4um is famous for calling ppl ''liars'' to provoke more discourse in attempt to steal info


Im confident the literate ppl who are interested in the subject will find what others found through time tested diligence

no instant gratification.

In school [OLD SCHOOL] calling the one presenting info a liar resulted in expulsion.
No insults permitted.
The word Academic means SPIRITUAL as Soul is PSYCHE in Greek, an educated intelligent mind is a beautiful things, a whole flock in association together is a party.

LSD is no party.
It is what it began as, a military weapon.
A destructive device.

As is alcohol and drugs, used as a crutch in medicine its Ok
but LSD in Psychiatry held high hopes in the 50s
once the military used it those hopes were destroyed as well.
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Saw it first hand at a Grateful Dead show in early 80s. Young men with short hair that looked like Mormons with sheets of acid.
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Saw it first hand at a Grateful Dead show in early 80s. Young men with short hair that looked like Mormons with sheets of acid.
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I have lots of similar stories.

A musician [straight] who often played at a beach in the 60s watched a man known to be a doctor hand out LSD but would take HIS tab from another container ....
then stay all day watching the kids and writing notes in a notebook

Cameras at Woodstock
Prostitutes paid to attend Woodstock [CIA has history of spreading STDs deliberately, check the Guatemala Apology]
People like Ken Elton Kesey And DR Leary getting huge sums of money for distributing LSD
Authors getting instant publishing contracts for publishing LSD friendly content
Musicians getting instant fame for promoting the drug
On an Island where I lived, CAMERAS found in trees in the forest where hippies did LSD [and much more
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Saw it first hand at a Grateful Dead show in early 80s. Young men with short hair that looked like Mormons with sheets of acid.
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Men in Black ?
Robert Hunter (grateful Dead previously called THE WARLOCKS)
was a CIA operative.

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During the early period of the Cold War, the CIA became convinced that communists had discovered a drug or technique that would allow them to control human minds. In response, the CIA began its own secret program, called MK-ULTRA, to search for a mind control drug that could be weaponized against enemies.

MK-ULTRA, which operated from the 1950s until the early '60s, was created and run by a chemist named Sidney Gottlieb. Journalist Stephen Kinzer, who spent several years investigating the program, calls the operation the "most sustained search in history for techniques of mind control."

Some of Gottlieb's experiments were covertly funded at universities and research centers, Kinzer says, while others were conducted in American prisons and in detention centers in Japan, Germany and the Philippines. Many of his unwitting subjects endured psychological torture ranging from electroshock to high doses of LSD, according to Kinzer's research.
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The CIA's Project MK-Ultra was designed to investigate the potential of drugs for intelligence operations. LSD was thought to be a truth serum and was used on unwitting citizens. The full extent of the CIA's unethical human experiments may never be known.
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TIL that in 1959 Robert Hunter of The Grateful Dead and Ken Kesey who wrote One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest signed up to be CIA test subjects and we're given LSD. They enjoyed it so much they would take it from the facility and give it to their friends for recreation.
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Merely for recreation my ass. Hate to break it to you but the Dead are highly suspect. Bob Weir is a bohemian grove member. It appears they were wittingly subjecting their fans to CIA experimentation if you look into it.
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The drug does truly have potential, and the research they did gather could have been used to benefit society.

They simply chose not to.
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The drug does truly have potential, and the research they did gather could have been used to benefit society.

They simply chose not to.
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maybe we should worry about the SANDMAN

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