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The Poland problem

 
AndreaAmilcare

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09/29/2022 06:16 AM
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I feel sad for Poland, one of my favourite EU country which is trying so strongly to avoid communism again and it's under siege by the European Union for this. Since before Covid started they tried to destabilize the country by sending mass of illegal refuges to his borders.
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09/29/2022 06:17 AM
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Poland has to be neutralized... There are the only ones that can legitimately fight back.
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09/29/2022 06:18 AM
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Remember all of those Polish jokes?


There's a reason for that.


The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson..
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Okay Archie Bunker! JC-0bhwg
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09/29/2022 06:19 AM
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cant you all see, this war is USA vs. the rest of the world?

basically become USA's donkey and have safety and trade, such bargaining is nothing more than slavery and oppression and forcing otherwise national militaries to do the USA's dirty work as per usual with the threat of removing it all if you step out of line.

NATO? no there is the USA and it's donkeys

America must be out of their minds if they think their BS alliances and treaties carry an ounce of weight in 2022. Economically, militarily, politically we'd all infact be better off cutting ties with the USA and erasing it from the map.
thinking...  (OP)

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09/29/2022 06:20 AM

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Let not forget, They want to do away with oil and gas by 2030 with their 'Green' bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84181513


The Green party and their insanity caused EU problems, they should down all their energy making nuclear power plants, all because of a UN climate change operation, yes it has always been a hoax to get money, they say it to give from the rich countries to the poor ones. That a flat out lie, they want the money themselves cause the poor countries are being used to attach other countries by immigration that isn't helping them but is destroying the western countries. Climate Change is a hoax using old data rearranged on graphs totally fraudulent, and it is harming our lives, and livelihoods.

They start wars with agreement, they stripe countries of their wealth, this is what they do to poor countries, they have cause most of the problems since their inception and doing away with them would be a blessing for the world, we don't need the UN to give a helping hand to poor countries, it knows how that helps the poor countries, and they learn to do it themselves and take joy that they did it.
 Quoting: hankie


The Greens are Marxists and their religion is Climate Change. They also hate Russia and are all in for Ukraine so they're able to get their green Agenda 2030 goals accelerated with the sanctions on Russia. Save the planet with nuclear war.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 06:22 AM

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Poland has to be neutralized... There are the only ones that can legitimately fight back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82825779


they should neutralize that one country that fights all of israels wars

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09/29/2022 06:23 AM
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What exactly do you respect of Poland?
Poland, even before WW2, was always very revengeful and hateful towards Germany.
Most people have probably never heard of the atrocities Poland committed against Germans living in the so-called Danzig corridor before WW2.
Also Poland approached France several times before WW2 if France would Form an alliance with Poland in order to attack and finish off Germany.
There was a reason WW2 started at the Polish border!
 Quoting: Tekunda


From 2008:

Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians?

[link to polishforums.com (secure)]

Interesting posts and I'd love to hear what they all have to say today.
 Quoting: thinking...


Eastern european people are so different from "us" western people.
they think about stuff non of us bothers to care about. they know weird treaties,history and so much other stuff related to politics etc.

but i can tell you for a fact that if you go to Germany as a east German then everyone is nice (same in all other eastern european countries).

Disliking a country isnt always the same as disliking its people.
i dislike the UK but there are a hand full of cool people there.
people hate the USA with a passion but Americans are mostly cool af.
 Quoting: T-Man


It's interesting to me that though they, too, were victims of communism, Hungary has avoided taking this path of hate, revenge and inevitable suicide.

“Before You Embark On A Journey Of Revenge, Dig Two Graves” — Confucius
 Quoting: thinking...


You don't know Polish history. Maybe you should learn a bit before you add "clever" comments like you did. Comparing Hungarian and Polish history is plain silly.
Just for starters read this: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Tekunda

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09/29/2022 06:23 AM
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Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists.

Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498


They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually.
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09/29/2022 06:27 AM

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Poland has to be neutralized... There are the only ones that can legitimately fight back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82825779


Fight back against what? They are instigating shit and turned a blind eye to the mass murder of people in Donbass for the past eight years - all because they hate Russia and Russians. Now, they're starting trouble with Germany.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists.

Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498


They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually.
 Quoting: Tekunda


damn. can we overlap what happened with hitler and the danzig corridor with whats happening with zelensky and the Donetsk/Luhansk People's Republics?

I mean both are israel people who work with people who supposedly hate their kind.
both were liberal hippy trash before becoming 'great' leaders. one a painter who dodged the austrian draft, one a comedian who used to make degenerate content.

its like they are using the exact same script.
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09/29/2022 06:30 AM

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Everyone hates Russia. No one trusts them. No one will trust them again for generations.

Putin has made many horrible miscalculations. One of which is it’s not all about money. These propaganda articles are useless.

Only a tiny man with a small penis would threaten nukes a million times. Time to stop this nonsense.
 Quoting: HKielbasah


That’s just not true. They have enemies, sure, but they certainly have friends. Even in Europe. Serbia. Hungary. Greece. And the new Italian leader will certainly pivot to be on friendlier terms.

Countries like Russia are tired of having their very real natural resources exploited in exchange for pieces of paper printed by the Federal Reserve.

This video is worth your time to watch. Russia’s Foreign Minister sums up exactly what is happening and why.


Like I told my ex-wife, I said: honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it’s all in the reflexes…
thinking...  (OP)

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09/29/2022 06:31 AM

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cant you all see, this war is USA vs. the rest of the world?

basically become USA's donkey and have safety and trade, such bargaining is nothing more than slavery and oppression and forcing otherwise national militaries to do the USA's dirty work as per usual with the threat of removing it all if you step out of line.

NATO? no there is the USA and it's donkeys

America must be out of their minds if they think their BS alliances and treaties carry an ounce of weight in 2022. Economically, militarily, politically we'd all infact be better off cutting ties with the USA and erasing it from the map.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80908356


All true but do you see anyone in the EU cutting ties with the US? No, they are doing as ordered and sanctioning Russia to their own detriment. Hungary and Serbia are the only ones resisting.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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09/29/2022 06:38 AM

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From 2008:

Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians?

[link to polishforums.com (secure)]

Interesting posts and I'd love to hear what they all have to say today.
 Quoting: thinking...


Eastern european people are so different from "us" western people.
they think about stuff non of us bothers to care about. they know weird treaties,history and so much other stuff related to politics etc.

but i can tell you for a fact that if you go to Germany as a east German then everyone is nice (same in all other eastern european countries).

Disliking a country isnt always the same as disliking its people.
i dislike the UK but there are a hand full of cool people there.
people hate the USA with a passion but Americans are mostly cool af.
 Quoting: T-Man


It's interesting to me that though they, too, were victims of communism, Hungary has avoided taking this path of hate, revenge and inevitable suicide.

“Before You Embark On A Journey Of Revenge, Dig Two Graves” — Confucius
 Quoting: thinking...


You don't know Polish history. Maybe you should learn a bit before you add "clever" comments like you did. Comparing Hungarian and Polish history is plain silly.
Just for starters read this: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78323542


I know about it. It's the earlier, pre WWI history that I don't know about.

You think the Confucius quote was "clever"? It's a fact. Poland strutting around as the US' bitch and thinking it's going to get revenge against Russia and Germany will only lead to destruction.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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Everyone hates Russia. No one trusts them. No one will trust them again for generations.

Putin has made many horrible miscalculations. One of which is it’s not all about money. These propaganda articles are useless.

Only a tiny man with a small penis would threaten nukes a million times. Time to stop this nonsense.
 Quoting: HKielbasah


That’s just not true. They have enemies, sure, but they certainly have friends. Even in Europe. Serbia. Hungary. Greece. And the new Italian leader will certainly pivot to be on friendlier terms.

Countries like Russia are tired of having their very real natural resources exploited in exchange for pieces of paper printed by the Federal Reserve.

This video is worth your time to watch. Russia’s Foreign Minister sums up exactly what is happening and why.


 Quoting: Shaun Kaven


Best diplomat in the world and I am so sorry he can no longer engage with the west where Satan is now fully in charge.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
 Quoting: judahbenhuer
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Brrrrr!!! Gonna be a cold winter I heard so I guess everyone will have to crash at uncle Joe's huh? I heard his German residence will be nice and warm but you have to let him smell your kids if you want to stay over.
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09/29/2022 07:20 AM
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Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists.

Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2.
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Goblins.
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Remember all of those Polish jokes?


There's a reason for that.


The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68110626


They made a deal with the devil and it’s going to bite them in the ass
Sic Semper Tyrannis.

The F in Communism stands for Food.

"FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
WAR IS PEACE.
STAYING APART BRINGS US TOGETHER." NWO Mantra
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Poland has to be neutralized... There are the only ones that can legitimately fight back.
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Fight back against what? They are instigating shit and turned a blind eye to the mass murder of people in Donbass for the past eight years - all because they hate Russia and Russians. Now, they're starting trouble with Germany.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you have no idea who rules over Polish politicians...Morawiecki and Kaczynski wearing yarmulka explains a lot
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Remember all of those Polish jokes?


There's a reason for that.


The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68110626


They made a deal with the devil and it’s going to bite them in the ass
 Quoting: VampPatriot


Wtf are you talking about?Deal with the devil?Polish people?hahahaha gtfo
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09/29/2022 08:07 AM
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Remember all of those Polish jokes?


There's a reason for that.


The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68110626


I'm not Polish and have heard & told a ton of those jokes, but after learning a little about their history I have a ton of respect for Poland. Poland is bad ass.
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Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists.

Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2.
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This 'evil" nation has the highest pct believers in God
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The new pipeline sounds like a target rich environment.

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09/29/2022 08:19 AM
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The polish sausage pipeline will also explode in 3 2 1......my guess anyway.
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Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists.

Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498




This 'evil" nation has the highest pct believers in God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83595024


Murderers talking about evil nations.lol
Buster Brown

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Very relevant, thanks. Clearly they're planning something different for the still-hypothetical Round 3.
 Quoting: Lakeofmarch nli 84268441


This is a good example of how the US is playing it's vassal states against each other. Germany is fully under control and, now, being economically ruined and Poland is now their new bitch and will be used as a tool against fellow Visegrad member, Hungary.
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excellent synopsis OP...I came to the same conclusion.

Raises the question if trump is still operating behind the scenes.

Sun tzu said act when the enemy thinks you are weak.

Trump already pushed poland for a new military base.

Germany was ruined, poland is still white. They now control who gets energy in europe lol...not germany and russia.
Polish connection is ass
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I heard on a documentary the other day that HItler made sure to kill the intellectual and power elites in Poland after he took it over.

Then during the USSR days and following, there was the so called "Brain Drain" effect as the smartest people in Poland and the rest of the USSR fled their horrible situtations and came to the West.

+ my bullshyting
 Quoting: JustmeTX


Smartest no , most visible, open and willing to cooperate.
Every war is run the same way .
US rendition program was for who? Illiterate peasants?GTFO , every war after conquest proceed with elimination of leadership - you probably think Quadaffi was bad guy right ? Answer is not , one of greatest minds of the time.
Anyway Nazi and Soviet slaughter only created situation where each Pole was educated to take any role in life
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You realize that the new Baltic pipeline is only 1/5 the capacity of Nord Stream 1, right?
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And it wasnt operational, hence methane leak
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It's all about UK-USA-Isreal axis vs. the world. Polanders and Ukruiners are vassals.
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Always ask, Cui Bono? (Who benefits?)

Does Russia benefit? They could have turned off the pipeline whenever they wanted. Their play was to have a harsh winter and make people in European countries ask the question: why are we suffering? Why do we care about Ukraine? Putin himself said, capitulate and drop the sanctions and we will turn your gas back on with a flip of the switch. Now, they can’t. This action harms Russia, and that’s not even to mention the millions spent on building the pipelines.

So if Russia doesn’t benefit then who does?

The US. Now there is no going back for Europe. They have to be all in on “punishing Russia”.

Poland. Via the new pipeline from Norway, they are the new power brokers in Europe. And they get to displace Germany. Make no mistake, the German economy is now on the brink of collapse and Poland will benefit. Poland and Germany are long time enemies. Not just World War 2, but before even.

So that’s my take. You could make the case for Qatar, but they don’t have the capacity to pull this off. China also benefits from creating chaos but I don’t think that they would be doing the US any favors.

Cui Bono? The US and Poland.

Russia, ball is in your court.
 Quoting: Shaun Kaven


The Russian response would have been proportional to nordstream. But now with the further escalation. The new weapon deliveries I’d say a massive conventional attack on oil gas and possibly satellite assets is coming. They can put us back 50 years in 15 minutes. They could take out our entire oil and gas infrastructure with a cruise missile barrage. They can guarantee we all freeze in the west this winter. They may just do it.
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I’m south of the 30th parallel. It will be 78*F this Christmas. Ain’t nobody freezing down here.





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