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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73186423 United States 09/29/2022 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember all of those Polish jokes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68110626 There's a reason for that. The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson.. I'm not Polish and have heard & told a ton of those jokes, but after learning a little about their history I have a ton of respect for Poland. Poland is bad ass. Every person I've ever met in my life of Polish descent was much smarter than the average American. The Polish government on the other hand is like many other governments, evil and stupid. |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 76630935 Netherlands 09/29/2022 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all about UK-USA-Isreal axis vs. the world. Polanders and Ukruiners are vassals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84287249 the allies of evil! Yeah...go murder some more people in Indonesia im guessing its about the dutch flag? but i dont know or care about history like that. and im German |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9480459 Ireland 09/29/2022 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how you engineer a MEGA-TARGET for Russia. Poland will be obliterated by next gen Russian weapons when they are unleashed. It will be PLAUSIBLE - because Poland is now the new Energy power!!! WOO HOO! Fancy that eh? Primakov put Putin in to power, under the command of Kissinger. [link to csef.ru] The end game is total destrucition of the west. And - deopulation. And it will all be totally PLAUSIBLE to the masses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80897480 Poland 09/29/2022 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember all of those Polish jokes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68110626 There's a reason for that. The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson.. I'm not Polish and have heard & told a ton of those jokes, but after learning a little about their history I have a ton of respect for Poland. Poland is bad ass. Every person I've ever met in my life of Polish descent was much smarter than the average American. The Polish government on the other hand is like many other governments, evil and stupid. 100% |
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User ID: 84280192 Philippines 09/29/2022 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Always ask, Cui Bono? (Who benefits?) Quoting: Shaun Kaven Does Russia benefit? They could have turned off the pipeline whenever they wanted. Their play was to have a harsh winter and make people in European countries ask the question: why are we suffering? Why do we care about Ukraine? Putin himself said, capitulate and drop the sanctions and we will turn your gas back on with a flip of the switch. Now, they can’t. This action harms Russia, and that’s not even to mention the millions spent on building the pipelines. So if Russia doesn’t benefit then who does? The US. Now there is no going back for Europe. They have to be all in on “punishing Russia”. Poland. Via the new pipeline from Norway, they are the new power brokers in Europe. And they get to displace Germany. Make no mistake, the German economy is now on the brink of collapse and Poland will benefit. Poland and Germany are long time enemies. Not just World War 2, but before even. So that’s my take. You could make the case for Qatar, but they don’t have the capacity to pull this off. China also benefits from creating chaos but I don’t think that they would be doing the US any favors. Cui Bono? The US and Poland. Russia, ball is in your court. The Russian response would have been proportional to nordstream. But now with the further escalation. The new weapon deliveries I’d say a massive conventional attack on oil gas and possibly satellite assets is coming. They can put us back 50 years in 15 minutes. They could take out our entire oil and gas infrastructure with a cruise missile barrage. They can guarantee we all freeze in the west this winter. They may just do it. I stated in another thread the most likely proportional response by Russia would be to cut undersea internet cables. However, with the US and UK supplying advanced weapons, military advisors to Ukraine, Russia will now have to re-evaluate their Special Military Operations (SMO) that was limited to taking out the Azov "Not See's". Putin simply wanted to stop the ethnic cleansing of Russians who have lived in Donetsk region for centuries. The Crimea has also been considered Russian territory for a century. The war mongers Victoria Nuland, Susan Rice, Killary, Barry and the Mormon boys in Langley are escalating the situation, not Russia. I found it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46209635 Victoria Nuland on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” Killary is still the queen witch and makes Victoria Nuland and Susan Rice look like amateurs when it comes to evil deeds. Expect Putin to retaliate proportionately by severing the undersea internet cables. [link to www.submarinecablemap.com (secure)] https://imgur.com/X6avW51 Russia's leader US leader You are born with the truth, then taught a lie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79637004 United States 09/29/2022 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498 Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2. Lol that is the Dumbest argument I read so far. Need to read few history books |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82885315 United States 09/29/2022 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deep Sea pipelines may be obsolete and being phased out. Hundreds of LNG Supertankers have been launched in past decade and are roaming ALL earth's oceans with the same stuff nordstream delivered. Thousands more could come from world Steel Industry in next 10 years. Russia is rich enough to keep most of its LNG domestically. There are millions more angry post COVID people in Baltic now who are capable of using a craigslist fishing boat and recreational scuba equipment to pull off shit like this. These pipelines are sitting duck targets. At least a super tanker has some defensive radar to spot potential threats and they are moving targets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84287194 Japan 09/29/2022 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Polish government on the other hand is like many other governments, evil and stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73186423 Smart ones were loaded on plane and crashed in Smolensk few years ago . Military was bribed with new hardware and better wages ,Censorship in Poland is back and security services made of bandits like during Communist times make sure hysterical rusophobia is prevailing tune |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78323542 Poland 09/29/2022 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: T-Man Eastern european people are so different from "us" western people. they think about stuff non of us bothers to care about. they know weird treaties,history and so much other stuff related to politics etc. but i can tell you for a fact that if you go to Germany as a east German then everyone is nice (same in all other eastern european countries). Disliking a country isnt always the same as disliking its people. i dislike the UK but there are a hand full of cool people there. people hate the USA with a passion but Americans are mostly cool af. It's interesting to me that though they, too, were victims of communism, Hungary has avoided taking this path of hate, revenge and inevitable suicide. “Before You Embark On A Journey Of Revenge, Dig Two Graves” — Confucius You don't know Polish history. Maybe you should learn a bit before you add "clever" comments like you did. Comparing Hungarian and Polish history is plain silly. Just for starters read this: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I know about it. It's the earlier, pre WWI history that I don't know about. You think the Confucius quote was "clever"? It's a fact. Poland strutting around as the US' bitch and thinking it's going to get revenge against Russia and Germany will only lead to destruction. Poland is not looking for revenge. Poland wants guarantees that what happened to them in the past will not happen again. Seeing what's going on now, they have no other option than to be US' bitch. It's better to be a bitch of the Hegemon then to be abused by a greedy and cruel neighbor. |
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Entitled title User ID: 76630935 Netherlands 09/29/2022 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deep Sea pipelines may be obsolete and being phased out. Hundreds of LNG Supertankers have been launched in past decade and are roaming ALL earth's oceans with the same stuff nordstream delivered. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82885315 Thousands more could come from world Steel Industry in next 10 years. Russia is rich enough to keep most of its LNG domestically. There are millions more angry post COVID people in Baltic now who are capable of using a craigslist fishing boat and recreational scuba equipment to pull off shit like this. These pipelines are sitting duck targets. At least a super tanker has some defensive radar to spot potential threats and they are moving targets. how are boats more efficient or greener than simply pipelines? lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79637004 United States 09/29/2022 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant you all see, this war is USA vs. the rest of the world? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80908356 basically become USA's donkey and have safety and trade, such bargaining is nothing more than slavery and oppression and forcing otherwise national militaries to do the USA's dirty work as per usual with the threat of removing it all if you step out of line. NATO? no there is the USA and it's donkeys America must be out of their minds if they think their BS alliances and treaties carry an ounce of weight in 2022. Economically, militarily, politically we'd all infact be better off cutting ties with the USA and erasing it from the map. All true but do you see anyone in the EU cutting ties with the US? No, they are doing as ordered and sanctioning Russia to their own detriment. Hungary and Serbia are the only ones resisting. Serbia won’t even recognize the annexation stolen land in Ukrainian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54142455 Poland 09/29/2022 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498 Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2. They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually. Yeah... Poland made Hitler so pissed he had to attack Poland, decide to destroy all "J"'s in Europe and attack few other countries including his former friend Stalin (On 22 VI 1941 Germany attacked Russia despite signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). That all was because of polish "atrocities" ? ARe you serious ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78607503 South Africa 09/29/2022 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Poland is full of nationalists against immigration, wonder if they did a deal with the devil. The polish came over to UK bringing down wages, living 20 to one house, saving all their hard earned cash to go back to Poland, and build it back better, leaving this country torn. Poland is the new UK, thriving, all planned I expect. Might just move there myself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28718123 United States 09/29/2022 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498 Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2. They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually. Yeah... Poland made Hitler so pissed he had to attack Poland, decide to destroy all "J"'s in Europe and attack few other countries including his former friend Stalin (On 22 VI 1941 Germany attacked Russia despite signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). That all was because of polish "atrocities" ? ARe you serious ? Silesia was given to Poland after WWl. Silesia, as a minority felt mistreated by Poland. Germany retook Silesia in 1939. It was then given back to Poland after WWll. Looks like they are being ostracized again. [link to notesfrompoland.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84287574 Poland 09/29/2022 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Polish government on the other hand is like many other governments, evil and stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73186423 Smart ones were loaded on plane and crashed in Smolensk few years ago . Military was bribed with new hardware and better wages ,Censorship in Poland is back and security services made of bandits like during Communist times make sure hysterical rusophobia is prevailing tune LOL. Those were the dumbest of the dumb. Not the the replacements weren't and aren't all stupid vassals of the US/Vatican/Brussels as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54142455 Poland 09/29/2022 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Polish are stupid? They were given land as compensation after WW2. Poland truly is an evil nation. Polish are full blown batshit crazy narcissists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84271498 Makes me think Poland really did attack NAZI Germany, starting WW2. They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually. Yeah... Poland made Hitler so pissed he had to attack Poland, decide to destroy all "J"'s in Europe and attack few other countries including his former friend Stalin (On 22 VI 1941 Germany attacked Russia despite signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). That all was because of polish "atrocities" ? ARe you serious ? Silesia was given to Poland after WWl. Silesia, as a minority felt mistreated by Poland. Germany retook Silesia in 1939. It was then given back to Poland after WWll. Looks like they are being ostracized again. [link to notesfrompoland.com (secure)] You clearly don't understand what Silesia is and who lives there. Silesia isn't a part of Poland inhabited by German minority. This is just part of Poland where A VERY SMALL german minority also lives - and they are not ostracized as a people. They even have a representation in polish parliament despite Germany never allowed to set representation of Poles in German parliament . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79284058 United States 09/29/2022 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember all of those Polish jokes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68110626 There's a reason for that. The dumb bastards are about to learn yet another difficult lesson.. I'm not Polish and have heard & told a ton of those jokes, but after learning a little about their history I have a ton of respect for Poland. Poland is bad ass. Also the Polish jokes are unwarranted. Some of the smartest people on the planet. Look it up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28718123 United States 09/29/2022 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tekunda They didn't attack Germany per se, but committed lots of atrocities towards the German remnant which was left behind after WW1, when Germany lost lots of territories (notorious Danzig Corridor) after the Versaille treaty to Poland which lead Hitler to attack Poland eventually. Yeah... Poland made Hitler so pissed he had to attack Poland, decide to destroy all "J"'s in Europe and attack few other countries including his former friend Stalin (On 22 VI 1941 Germany attacked Russia despite signed Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). That all was because of polish "atrocities" ? ARe you serious ? Silesia was given to Poland after WWl. Silesia, as a minority felt mistreated by Poland. Germany retook Silesia in 1939. It was then given back to Poland after WWll. Looks like they are being ostracized again. [link to notesfrompoland.com (secure)] You clearly don't understand what Silesia is and who lives there. Silesia isn't a part of Poland inhabited by German minority. This is just part of Poland where A VERY SMALL german minority also lives - and they are not ostracized as a people. They even have a representation in polish parliament despite Germany never allowed to set representation of Poles in German parliament . You are right. It’s all Prussian to me. My late stepdad was Polish, a finer man I have yet to meet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74992263 United States 09/29/2022 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Always ask, Cui Bono? (Who benefits?) Quoting: Shaun Kaven Does Russia benefit? They could have turned off the pipeline whenever they wanted. Their play was to have a harsh winter and make people in European countries ask the question: why are we suffering? Why do we care about Ukraine? Putin himself said, capitulate and drop the sanctions and we will turn your gas back on with a flip of the switch. Now, they can’t. This action harms Russia, and that’s not even to mention the millions spent on building the pipelines. So if Russia doesn’t benefit then who does? The US. Now there is no going back for Europe. They have to be all in on “punishing Russia”. Poland. Via the new pipeline from Norway, they are the new power brokers in Europe. And they get to displace Germany. Make no mistake, the German economy is now on the brink of collapse and Poland will benefit. Poland and Germany are long time enemies. Not just World War 2, but before even. So that’s my take. You could make the case for Qatar, but they don’t have the capacity to pull this off. China also benefits from creating chaos but I don’t think that they would be doing the US any favors. Cui Bono? The US and Poland. Russia, ball is in your court. ^^^ Very good analysis here..^^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79065616 Canada 09/29/2022 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72805362 I'm not Polish and have heard & told a ton of those jokes, but after learning a little about their history I have a ton of respect for Poland. Poland is bad ass. What exactly do you respect of Poland? Poland, even before WW2, was always very revengeful and hateful towards Germany. Most people have probably never heard of the atrocities Poland committed against Germans living in the so-called Danzig corridor before WW2. Also Poland approached France several times before WW2 if France would Form an alliance with Poland in order to attack and finish off Germany. There was a reason WW2 started at the Polish border! From 2008: Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [link to polishforums.com (secure)] Interesting posts and I'd love to hear what they all have to say today. Eastern european people are so different from "us" western people. they think about stuff non of us bothers to care about. they know weird treaties,history and so much other stuff related to politics etc. but i can tell you for a fact that if you go to Poland as a east German then everyone is nice (same in all other eastern european countries). Disliking a country isnt always the same as disliking its people. i dislike the UK but there are a hand full of cool people there. people hate the USA with a passion but Americans are mostly cool af. Exactly right and very important to note. Only retards back their country to the hilt. |