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Magnitude 7.7 in central turkey

 
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Turkey will receive lots of help coming from all horizons, Ukraine and Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, the E.U. the U.S. and many more.

My question is... Will Syria who is submitted to a catastrophe of equal dimensions, Aleppo got badly hit, Who will help Syria? Will their neighbours come to the rescue??? How about from further away?

Politics can be so damaging even in the worst of cases.
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


I’ve seen several statements from Turkey specifically asking for international aide. Has Syria done the same? Not a rhetorical question.
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Turkey will receive lots of help coming from all horizons, Ukraine and Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, the E.U. the U.S. and many more.

My question is... Will Syria who is submitted to a catastrophe of equal dimensions, Aleppo got badly hit, Who will help Syria? Will their neighbours come to the rescue??? How about from further away?

Politics can be so damaging even in the worst of cases.
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


I’ve seen several statements from Turkey specifically asking for international aide. Has Syria done the same? Not a rhetorical question.
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Turkey will receive lots of help coming from all horizons, Ukraine and Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, the E.U. the U.S. and many more.

My question is... Will Syria who is submitted to a catastrophe of equal dimensions, Aleppo got badly hit, Who will help Syria? Will their neighbours come to the rescue??? How about from further away?

Politics can be so damaging even in the worst of cases.
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earth is just getting rid of parasitic humans
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I am sure you contribute a lot to your society. I am sure someone assured you that you are not a parasite and a lot better than so many people. I am sure you deserve to live a lot longer than rest of us...because of your contribution to humankind...your inventions...your words of wisdom...to your society...to your friends, if you have any... i just cant be sure if you are just sick or pathetic...
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Shit that's the road that leads to my friend/supplier's factory... Haven't heard from him yet unfortunately, phone is not receiving (but not that surprising)
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Alright, I take back my initial suggestion that it was somehow 'staged'- this looks pretty epic.
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How do you stage a earthquake?
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Turkey will receive lots of help coming from all horizons, Ukraine and Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, the E.U. the U.S. and many more.

My question is... Will Syria who is submitted to a catastrophe of equal dimensions, Aleppo got badly hit, Who will help Syria? Will their neighbours come to the rescue??? How about from further away?

Politics can be so damaging even in the worst of cases.
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


You’re not wrong…but at the same time, situations like this also bring out the absolute best in humanity. Levels of care, kindness, and cooperation that are so very rare. I hope all affected areas get what they need…especially highly trained search and rescue teams immediately dispatched.
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7.8 is strong, but not that big of a deal..the earth has at least 15-20 such strength quakes in a year

8+ and higher are once a year or so

9 or greater are once in a century or so

Japan in 2011 2011 Tōhoku earthquake 9.2 mag..which in turn led to the WAVE and fukushimma diaster

but japanese are smart people and build well for quakes which are more common in their region of world. A 7.8 quake is not a big deal to the japs..minor damage

the sand jokeys in turkeys mud huts crumbled
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81779051


Hi, Chilean here. We eat earthquakes during breakfast, so we know a lot about them.

Your analysis is not entirely accurate. Absolute magnitude is just a factor in earthquake destruction, there are several others in place: how deep it was, terrain conditions (see Mexico D.F. as an example of a terrible place), construction code, population density, wave acceleration, movement direction and timing, among others.

This Turkish earthquake was very strong, very shallow, with extreme acceleration (almost 2 meters / 7 feets of displacement every second) and right under a highly populated area. Also, construction code is not as strict as Japanese or Chilean ones.

Besides, it looks like the entire fault is crumbling. The 7.5 aftershock was way to the north from the original fracture. Maybe the entire fault will soon collapse into an even bigger quake (and by "soon" I mean within hours or a couple of days).

Let's hope it doesn't, because it would be almost apocalyptic in that area.
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yea...
my ancestors were accepted in chile as family...
thanx for that....
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Oddly enough, several nations (including the US & Germany) closed consulates in Turkey last week, for supposed security concerns...
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Well, that's not suspicious at all...yeahsure
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Oh shit
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Turkey: 'Take your dirty hands off Turkey' - Interior minister says to US ambassador FEB.4
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Found another live from the scene. Looks really miserable there with the cold and the rain.


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To me, it is starting to look like they just synchronized a bunch of building demolitions at once and maybe created a small quake to go along with it (so those in the region could say they felt it, etc.).

I mean, all the live shots are close-ups, of collapsed buildings and the footage of the quake showing structures collapsing sure look like controlled det. (in the footprint).

It is right at the Syrian border too, so not many international orgs. will be keen on wanting to set-up shop there- Imagine the payout Turkey is about to receive for 'aid'- (their payoff for cooperation?).

Just brainstorming is all- watch the footage with the mind 'could this be faked' (if the answer is yes, then it probably was is all I'm saying- you KNOW authentic devastation/destruction/combat when you see it)
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I don't know if you realize, but the effects of the earthquake has spanned at least 250 miles (Malatya to Antakya), the footage show is from many towns in between those 250 miles, personally I recognize a few of the places having been there, I do recognize a lot more in Hatay though as I go there at least once a month.

Faking almost synchronized controlled demolitions (and a shit ton of them) over the span of 250 miles, would be a difficult task if not to say almost impossible (though nothing is impossible)

I think you should probably watch more videos, and familiarize yourself with Turkey's geography
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that is an army!
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And I bet as I type America is loading up the air freighters with relief supplies and people to help and will be the first aid workers in country aid.

All the while Turkey will slam the West and America every chance he has otherwise.
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Found another live from the scene. Looks really miserable there with the cold and the rain.


 Quoting: Snuffielover


To me, it is starting to look like they just synchronized a bunch of building demolitions at once and maybe created a small quake to go along with it (so those in the region could say they felt it, etc.).

I mean, all the live shots are close-ups, of collapsed buildings and the footage of the quake showing structures collapsing sure look like controlled det. (in the footprint).

It is right at the Syrian border too, so not many international orgs. will be keen on wanting to set-up shop there- Imagine the payout Turkey is about to receive for 'aid'- (their payoff for cooperation?).

Just brainstorming is all- watch the footage with the mind 'could this be faked' (if the answer is yes, then it probably was is all I'm saying- you KNOW authentic devastation/destruction/combat when you see it)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84009964


I don't know if you realize, but the effects of the earthquake has spanned at least 250 miles (Malatya to Antakya), the footage show is from many towns in between those 250 miles, personally I recognize a few of the places having been there, I do recognize a lot more in Hatay though as I go there at least once a month.

Faking almost synchronized controlled demolitions (and a shit ton of them) over the span of 250 miles, would be a difficult task if not to say almost impossible (though nothing is impossible)

I think you should probably watch more videos, and familiarize yourself with Turkey's geography
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HERE WE GO!
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Turkey will receive lots of help coming from all horizons, Ukraine and Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, the E.U. the U.S. and many more.

My question is... Will Syria who is submitted to a catastrophe of equal dimensions, Aleppo got badly hit, Who will help Syria? Will their neighbours come to the rescue??? How about from further away?

Politics can be so damaging even in the worst of cases.
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


You’re not wrong…but at the same time, situations like this also bring out the absolute best in humanity. Levels of care, kindness, and cooperation that are so very rare. I hope all affected areas get what they need…especially highly trained search and rescue teams immediately dispatched.
 Quoting: Larphillips


Turkey will get it. Syria? Not so sure. They will use all kinds of excuses.

For Syrians, earthquakes bring on yet another disaster

Powerful quakes have left devastation in the war-hit country, exacerbating crises faced by internally displaced people and refugees.

It is the latest disaster for a people who have already suffered much.

The images of Syrians, young and old, helplessly being pulled out from under the rubble have sadly become a common sight over the nearly 12 years of war in Syria, particularly in the opposition-held northwest of the country.

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Oddly enough, several nations (including the US & Germany) closed consulates in Turkey last week, for supposed security concerns...
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Well, that's not suspicious at all...yeahsure
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Oh shit
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Turkey: 'Take your dirty hands off Turkey' - Interior minister says to US ambassador FEB.4
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Yeah, I saw that video the other day. Had kind of a foreboding feeling about it.
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Live updates

Turkey-Syria earthquakes live: 2,300 dead; rescue efforts ongoing


Turkish authorities confirm 1,541 deaths, with another 810 reported in Syria, after powerful earthquakes bring thousands of buildings crashing down in both countries.

Initial magnitude 7.8 tremor in southeastern Turkey early on Monday was followed by magnitude 7.6 earthquake hours later amid several aftershocks.

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They will be lucky if they got any tomato plants left.


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7.8 is strong, but not that big of a deal..the earth has at least 15-20 such strength quakes in a year

8+ and higher are once a year or so

9 or greater are once in a century or so

Japan in 2011 2011 Tōhoku earthquake 9.2 mag..which in turn led to the WAVE and fukushimma diaster

but japanese are smart people and build well for quakes which are more common in their region of world. A 7.8 quake is not a big deal to the japs..minor damage

the sand jokeys in turkeys mud huts crumbled
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81779051


Hi, Chilean here. We eat earthquakes during breakfast, so we know a lot about them.

Your analysis is not entirely accurate. Absolute magnitude is just a factor in earthquake destruction, there are several others in place: how deep it was, terrain conditions (see Mexico D.F. as an example of a terrible place), construction code, population density, wave acceleration, movement direction and timing, among others.

This Turkish earthquake was very strong, very shallow, with extreme acceleration (almost 2 meters / 7 feets of displacement every second) and right under a highly populated area. Also, construction code is not as strict as Japanese or Chilean ones.

Besides, it looks like the entire fault is crumbling. The 7.5 aftershock was way to the north from the original fracture. Maybe the entire fault will soon collapse into an even bigger quake (and by "soon" I mean within hours or a couple of days).

Let's hope it doesn't, because it would be almost apocalyptic in that area.
 Quoting: Khaiser


Over twenty earthquakes of magnitude 5.0 or greater in less than 24 hours, so this is pretty bad.
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Found another live from the scene. Looks really miserable there with the cold and the rain.


 Quoting: Snuffielover


To me, it is starting to look like they just synchronized a bunch of building demolitions at once and maybe created a small quake to go along with it (so those in the region could say they felt it, etc.).

I mean, all the live shots are close-ups, of collapsed buildings and the footage of the quake showing structures collapsing sure look like controlled det. (in the footprint).

It is right at the Syrian border too, so not many international orgs. will be keen on wanting to set-up shop there- Imagine the payout Turkey is about to receive for 'aid'- (their payoff for cooperation?).

Just brainstorming is all- watch the footage with the mind 'could this be faked' (if the answer is yes, then it probably was is all I'm saying- you KNOW authentic devastation/destruction/combat when you see it)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84009964


I don't know if you realize, but the effects of the earthquake has spanned at least 250 miles (Malatya to Antakya), the footage show is from many towns in between those 250 miles, personally I recognize a few of the places having been there, I do recognize a lot more in Hatay though as I go there at least once a month.

Faking almost synchronized controlled demolitions (and a shit ton of them) over the span of 250 miles, would be a difficult task if not to say almost impossible (though nothing is impossible)

I think you should probably watch more videos, and familiarize yourself with Turkey's geography
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HERE WE GO!
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Turkey better leave Finland and Sweden into NATO or it will be having more "unfortunately natural" earthquakes...
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7.8 is strong, but not that big of a deal..the earth has at least 15-20 such strength quakes in a year

8+ and higher are once a year or so

9 or greater are once in a century or so

Japan in 2011 2011 Tōhoku earthquake 9.2 mag..which in turn led to the WAVE and fukushimma diaster

but japanese are smart people and build well for quakes which are more common in their region of world. A 7.8 quake is not a big deal to the japs..minor damage

the sand jokeys in turkeys mud huts crumbled
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81779051


Hi, Chilean here. We eat earthquakes during breakfast, so we know a lot about them.

Your analysis is not entirely accurate. Absolute magnitude is just a factor in earthquake destruction, there are several others in place: how deep it was, terrain conditions (see Mexico D.F. as an example of a terrible place), construction code, population density, wave acceleration, movement direction and timing, among others.

This Turkish earthquake was very strong, very shallow, with extreme acceleration (almost 2 meters / 7 feets of displacement every second) and right under a highly populated area. Also, construction code is not as strict as Japanese or Chilean ones.

Besides, it looks like the entire fault is crumbling. The 7.5 aftershock was way to the north from the original fracture. Maybe the entire fault will soon collapse into an even bigger quake (and by "soon" I mean within hours or a couple of days).

Let's hope it doesn't, because it would be almost apocalyptic in that area.
 Quoting: Khaiser


Thank you for adding your knowledge and experience to the discussion.

Continuing to pray for those in distress in this situation.
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Looks like another 7.7 just happened now.

Those poor people. :-(
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Turkey better leave Finland and Sweden into NATO or it will be having more "unfortunately natural" earthquakes...
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Looks like another 7.7 just happened now.

Those poor people. :-(
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Do you have a source?
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7.8 is strong, but not that big of a deal..the earth has at least 15-20 such strength quakes in a year

8+ and higher are once a year or so

9 or greater are once in a century or so

Japan in 2011 2011 Tōhoku earthquake 9.2 mag..which in turn led to the WAVE and fukushimma diaster

but japanese are smart people and build well for quakes which are more common in their region of world. A 7.8 quake is not a big deal to the japs..minor damage

the sand jokeys in turkeys mud huts crumbled
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This Turkish earthquake was very strong, very shallow, with extreme acceleration (almost 2 meters / 7 feets of displacement every second) and right under a highly populated area. Also, construction code is not as strict as Japanese or Chilean ones.
 Quoting: Khaiser


True, well not anymore on new constructions, since 1999 all constructions are tested before hand, and some things have to be respected (though in practice probably not so much, Turkish companies are pros at cutting corners...)

But the problem here, compared to a lot of Istanbul, is the buildings are pre 1999. That being said a 7.7 in the center of Istanbul would still be a disaster, a lot of old constructions still, but if you're in a new building you're pretty much fine.

What the government here does to try and replace the old buildings for new ones, is inspect old buildings, if they think the building will not withstand an earthquake, they offer to tear it down rebuild new without any extra costs though the flat won't have as many square feet, but will retain it's value because it's new. The owners of the flats in the buildings have a vote to accept or not, the government can't oblige to accept the offer.
But I can imagine that being changed after this.
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Prayers are going out to all in Turkey.
I send my love, thoughts, and prayers across the world to you..
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Looks like another 7.7 just happened now.

Those poor people. :-(
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Do you have a source?
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I currently see nothing.
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Still not as bad as the destruction Putin the war criminal caused in Ukraine, Chechnya, and Syria.

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Seriously…not the place for this.

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the for the world to stop sending aid to the Ukraine stuff and focus here

the vast majority if people never wanted to support such a war in the first place





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