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What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?

 
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the point being:

we all have different perspectives and understandings of the scriptures. Not one is 100% right..... not one is 100% wrong. We are a tapestry ... weaving the truth of the Creator into one perfect picture....... and we work together to that end. At least........ some of us try.

Time is linear.. GOD is not. To take the bible solely literally is short=selling yourself.
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Good thing I'm not trying to sell myself. I think I may have discovered YOUR agenda:

Robert Plant's symbol of a circle around a feather features the feather of Ma'at, the Egyptian goddess of justice and fairness.

Exodus 20:2-5 I am Yahweh thy Elohim, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other elohim before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I Yahweh thy Elohim am a jealous El, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
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omg....... talk about an agenda.

This picture was given to me in a dream..... a dream where i was inspired to write a book about emotional trauma based on my life's experiences. Feathers have meanings...... spiritual meanings. My name> means 10 feathers of life.
I suppose that is satanic to you as well. But because feathers are not discussed in the bible for you means they are satanic.

it's you projecting your own thoughts onto the meaning.

You have no idea, and therefore cannot speak authoritatively about the symbol of my avatar. wow

This is why I can't leave threads like these. The beating and whippings continue. Maybe I AM a martyr for the savior!
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maybe a dose of your own poop will help:

Not once did I say feathers were satanic...but YOU did.

perhaps this dream came to you after passing out at a led zeppelin concert? that sounds traumatic.
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Did Jesus tell you to say that? It (doesn't) sounds like something Jesus would say. I didn't say feathers are satanic, but you are projecting they are by insinuinating I lifted it from Rober Plant. Do you deny it?.

Hey ! So, share your book on how to heal from emotional trauma and abuse with me, and I'll share mine with yours

Maybe together, we can help a lot of people to heal !!

What say you?
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ok... I see glp bots are taking over...........

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Did Jesus tell you to say that? It (doesn't) sounds like something Jesus would say. I didn't say feathers are satanic, but you are projecting they are by insinuinating I lifted it from Rober Plant. Do you deny it?.

Hey ! So, share your book on how to heal from emotional trauma and abuse with me, and I'll share mine with yours

Maybe together, we can help a lot of people to heal !!

What say you?
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Lying isn't a really a good look for you.

omg....... talk about an agenda.

This picture was given to me in a dream..... a dream where i was inspired to write a book about emotional trauma based on my life's experiences. Feathers have meanings...... spiritual meanings. My name> means 10 feathers of life.
I suppose that is satanic to you as well. But because feathers are not discussed in the bible for you means they are satanic.

it's you projecting your own thoughts onto the meaning.

You have no idea, and therefore cannot speak authoritatively about the symbol of my avatar. wow

This is why I can't leave threads like these. The beating and whippings continue. Maybe I AM a martyr for the savior!
 Quoting: *10~Pankha*

maybe a dose of your own poop will help:

Not once did I say feathers were satanic...but YOU did.

Not once did I say feathers aren't in the Bible...but YOU did.

perhaps this dream came to you after passing out at a led zeppelin concert? that sounds traumatic.
 Quoting: Obedience_Proves_Faith


And that is also a lie, as feathers appear in Leviticus, Job, Psalms, Ezekiel, Daniel...yeah you should just stop with the smoke and mirrors.
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ok... I see glp bots are taking over...........

bye.
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no bots, just keep looking in that mirror.
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ok... I see glp bots are taking over...........

bye.
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Hi Pankha. YAHshua bless you with deliverance and salvation with Him as Your Saviour King. Then you can talk to Abba.

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OP is an enemy to Christianity.

The King James Bible is the final authority to Christians and OP's purpose is to denigrate, discredit, malign and vilify it, just as Satan has been doing for 600 year (Greek NT).

The apostles of Jesus called him Iesous (English pronunciation where I = J), as proven by the Greek New Testament, written by the apostles.

The apostles told us His name.

The most important detail of the New Testament is His name.

The power to save and cast out demons is in His name.

JESUS CHRIST

All who attack the name Jesus is an enemy to Jesus.

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There are so many lies and disinformation in your distortion of history and His word .

Are you a follower of the satanic rapture futurist Dispensationalism doctrines?
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His Aramaic name at birth was Isho.
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His Aramaic name at birth was Isho.
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So basically you are confessing you are not saved by in in YAHshua as your saviour.

He was born of Abrahams bloodline via the 12 tribes.
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His Aramaic name at birth was Isho.
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So basically you are confessing you are not saved by in in YAHshua as your saviour.

He was born of Abrahams bloodline via the 12 tribes.
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You do not sound anything like a follower of Jesus' teachings.
You sound like a guy who thinks his eternal soul is saved from hellfire if he repeats something over & over, says he believes something & if everybody doesn't agree exactly they're doomed.
You might as well believe in potato, there's not a critical thought allowed past the cell membrane you call a brain.

God gave you that thing.
It'd be sacrilegious not to use it.
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His Aramaic name at birth was Isho.
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So basically you are confessing you are not saved by in in YAHshua as your saviour.

He was born of Abrahams bloodline via the 12 tribes.
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You do not sound anything like a follower of Jesus' teachings.
You sound like a guy who thinks his eternal soul is saved from hellfire if he repeats something over & over, says he believes something & if everybody doesn't agree exactly they're doomed.
You might as well believe in potato, there's not a critical thought allowed past the cell membrane you call a brain.

God gave you that thing.
It'd be sacrilegious not to use it.
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Your obviously intelligent. That is probably a great part of your love of projection.

As i have already accepted YAHshua finished work on the cross for all sin, by confession of my sin . I have received Him as my Saviour Elohim and King. He has risen and will return.

I don't need to argue with you. I put in Abba hand what ever it is that you think you are, and if it is short of Him His Way His word His Mark that you might receive what you need for the Holy Spirit to be your teacher.

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So lets head back to the focus of this thread.

The issue is significant.

Because of the simple scripture understanding about this very important grace.

Especially because last 300 years that English decided it was lingua franca.

The English name Jesus is a transliteration from the Latin which is a transliteration from the Greek.

Joshua is translation of His Name in English.

The KJV originally had not the transliteration Jesus for example.

Even Joshua does not do justice to His Name as the pronunciation/sound of His Name does not have the j sound in it.

Scripture is very plain clear and simple.

His Name is very important. Not the translation or transliterations.

In this age of instant communication the Truth of Him and His Name is readily available to all.
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I similarly to hiw hard core Rapturists scream. Shout. ..curse .lie and decieve whilst abusing His Word in support of those deceptions and because of exposure of the satanic rapture futurist Dispensationalism doctrines as the lies and deceits they are.

In like manner but even bigger for the entire English speaking visible body. The name Jesus is not even a translation of His Name into English. Whereas Joshua is a translation into English of His Name.

What am i saying? Once you know the Truth and reject it. That is your choice , responsibility and if maintained, consequence.

Please note i am not saying believers who use the name Jesus are unsaved.
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His Aramaic name at birth was Isho.
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So basically you are confessing you are not saved by in in YAHshua as your saviour.

He was born of Abrahams bloodline via the 12 tribes.
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It's you who are not saved, false teacher, for attacking Jesus Christ.

It doesn't matter how you twist and illustrate, you're tricks don't work on those who know about the Hebrew-roots corruption born out of the "synagogue of Satan" Orthodox Juu-dayism.

And before you pin me as a dispensationalist (zero indication) for admonishing you (pathetic).. I deny.

Btw, your fake green karma is an appropriate admission to your deceptive nature.

“Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

I see you devil.
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This video explains the TRUE HEBREW names of the FATHER/CREATOR and his SON/SAVIOR.

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So lets head back to the focus of this thread.

The issue is significant.

Because of the simple scripture understanding about this very important grace.

Especially because last 300 years that English decided it was lingua franca.

The English name Jesus is a transliteration from the Latin which is a transliteration from the Greek.

Joshua is translation of His Name in English.

The KJV originally had not the transliteration Jesus for example.

Even Joshua does not do justice to His Name as the pronunciation/sound of His Name does not have the j sound in it.

Scripture is very plain clear and simple.

His Name is very important. Not the translation or transliterations.

In this age of instant communication the Truth of Him and His Name is readily available to all.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


Let's consider the "word" made flesh........ What is a word? It's a sound. What is "sound?" It's vibrational utterance. What creates? Energy. What is energy? Vibration. What is spelling? spells. What are spells? the manipulation of energy...... for positive, or for negative. Not so often neutral. Words are powerful........ There is power of life or death, in the tongue.

The sounding of the name is very important, in my opinion.
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What did the apostles call him?

That's your final answer.
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The language spoke was Aramaic predominantly and Greek. The universal language to write for the Roman Empire was Greek.

Yeshua in Aramaic and they spoke Aramaic.
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Jesus preached in Greek and the apostles authored the New Testament in Greek, not Hebrew or Aramaic, the pigeon-holed languages to Galilee (Aramaic) and Judea (Hebrew).

The apostles and masses called him IESOUS (Greek to Latin) = Jesus (English)

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 Timothy 2:5

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12
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So it's a cult, that follows the same formula all other messianic death cults follow, the only way to god and to salvation is through the cult leader.

NO DICE
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The following link and site go in depth about this thread topic.

I highly recommend it

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So lets head back to the focus of this thread.

The issue is significant.

Because of the simple scripture understanding about this very important grace.

Especially because last 300 years that English decided it was lingua franca.

The English name Jesus is a transliteration from the Latin which is a transliteration from the Greek.

Joshua is translation of His Name in English.

The KJV originally had not the transliteration Jesus for example.

Even Joshua does not do justice to His Name as the pronunciation/sound of His Name does not have the j sound in it.

Scripture is very plain clear and simple.

His Name is very important. Not the translation or transliterations.

In this age of instant communication the Truth of Him and His Name is readily available to all.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


Let's consider the "word" made flesh........ What is a word? It's a sound. What is "sound?" It's vibrational utterance. What creates? Energy. What is energy? Vibration. What is spelling? spells. What are spells? the manipulation of energy...... for positive, or for negative. Not so often neutral. Words are powerful........ There is power of life or death, in the tongue.

The sounding of the name is very important, in my opinion.
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Scripture agrees with your last assessment. Especially about His name hundreds of times.
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His Aramaic name at birth was Isho.
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So basically you are confessing you are not saved by in in YAHshua as your saviour.

He was born of Abrahams bloodline via the 12 tribes.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


It's you who are not saved, false teacher, for attacking Jesus Christ.

It doesn't matter how you twist and illustrate, you're tricks don't work on those who know about the Hebrew-roots corruption born out of the "synagogue of Satan" Orthodox Juu-dayism.

And before you pin me as a dispensationalist (zero indication) for admonishing you (pathetic).. I deny.

Btw, your fake green karma is an appropriate admission to your deceptive nature.

“Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

I see you devil.
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I forgive you.

You should take the bitterness hate and many deceptions afflicting you to YAHshua. Sincerely ask for help and forgiveness. He is gracious
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So lets head back to the focus of this thread.

The issue is significant.

Because of the simple scripture understanding about this very important grace.

Especially because last 300 years that English decided it was lingua franca.

The English name Jesus is a transliteration from the Latin which is a transliteration from the Greek.

Joshua is translation of His Name in English.

The KJV originally had not the transliteration Jesus for example.

Even Joshua does not do justice to His Name as the pronunciation/sound of His Name does not have the j sound in it.

Scripture is very plain clear and simple.

His Name is very important. Not the translation or transliterations.

In this age of instant communication the Truth of Him and His Name is readily available to all.
 Quoting: FHL(C)


Let's consider the "word" made flesh........ What is a word? It's a sound. What is "sound?" It's vibrational utterance. What creates? Energy. What is energy? Vibration. What is spelling? spells. What are spells? the manipulation of energy...... for positive, or for negative. Not so often neutral. Words are powerful........ There is power of life or death, in the tongue.

The sounding of the name is very important, in my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80376576


Scripture agrees with your last assessment. Especially about His name hundreds of times.
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only the last one?

Life and death are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit. Proverbs 18:21
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Jeremiah 8:8 ~~ How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the Law of the LORD is with us,’ when in fact the lying pen of the scribes has produced a deception?
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I can give you the exact name, but you'll ignore it anyway.
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The following link gives great insight into why so many believers have need of understanding His Truth and Word daily.

It touches on this thread topic title in a strength.

For another great deception in the visible body .is the artificial division in most Bible's calling two thirds of scripture the old Testament and the other third the new testament.

And its not the case at all.

Scripture soeaks of both from the beginning to the end
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"From the very beginning I want to make it clear that the name JESUS has only been around for the past 400 years -- that is a FACT.
The name JESUS is not an equivalent for our Savior's Birth Name -- that too is a Fact. The name JESUS, pronounced Geezus, by most and Hezeus by others, is not and never has been the English equivelant of the Greek -- the so-called, Inspired Greek.
Even if we accept that the Greek is the inspired, Holy Spirit, language, the name, JESUS, is not that. Still, scholars from every side and in every school of theology and from every pulpit preachers and street corner cryier will tell you the JESUS is the English for the Inspired Greek -- that is a deception, a lie.
Keep reading and you will see why this is true, aside from the false name JESUS not even coming close to being a transliteration of our Savior's Birth Name, YaHshua. The Old English transliteration, from the Old Testament is Joshua -- neither of these Names, the Hebrew/get lost, or the Old English attempt, are anywhere near the false name that nearly everyone has accepted.
Just a simple question, before we continue -- Why change His Name from YaHshua, or Joshua, both available yesterday and today? Why, why replace with a completely different name, a name that sounds nothing like the Name as presented and found in the Old Testament for thousands of years, a name known then and now?"

A short quote from the above link.

Again i am making it clear believers who were saved by faith and say Jesus . I am not saying you are unsaved. I am saying by accepting deceptions you are easily lead astray.

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Thread: Jehovah is eager to forgive a repentant sinner. Ps86;5

.jehovah is not YHVH name. Its a made up one that incorporates the vowels for the hebrew adonai(lord/master) spliced into YHVH.

Its an old deception deliberately engendered by the scribes and Pharisees . More to it of course.

So why is it so deceitful?

Because its a lie dressed as truth and has decieved many.
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I have seen the zeus claim many times over The years. But until now never had enough information about it.

"Some scholars think that Jesus name was
corrupted by the early Roman Apostasy -
in order to make his name look more Graeco -
Roman rather than "hebrew".

After the Apostles and Jesus had been
removed from the hebrew Christan scene - Rome took
over the Christian Faith and attempted to
Mould and conform it to her own Graeco-Roman
heritage and Flavour.

Zeus was one of the most popular gods at
that time. And conjecture has it that perhaps
Jesus name was changed to please the pagans
in the empire - who were reluctant to accept
the New Faith - of the Roman Emperor.
Look at some of the Findings
"It is known that the Greek name
endings with sus, seus, and sous
were attached by the Greeks to names
and geographical areas as means to
give honour to their supreme deity, Zeus."
-Dictionary of Christian Lore and Legend
Professor J. C. J. Metford

"In the 1611 KJ New Testament
the name Yahshua (Yehoshua) appeared
originally wherever the Messiah was
spoken of. Yehoshua means Yehovah's
(Jehovah's) Salvation. Later the
Messiah's name was replaced with Iesus
(Greek) which later in the 1600's it
became Jesus starting with the new
English letter "J" which was introduced
at that time. Further, the Greek "Iesus"
comes from the name Zeus, the ruling God
in the Greek pantheon."
-Gospel of The Kingdom
True Names and Title
Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley
1931 - Ohio USA"

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YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH,
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Re: What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?
"The following is an article by Rick Turner and Matt Slick. They present the usual teaching that has blinded most and has become the basic teaching of all those professing to be teachers of the New Covenant in the community of this worlds Christianity. The Jesus they teach was born on December the 25th, had beautiful features, was crucified Friday evening, and rose from the dead Sunday morning. This is either a different Messiah from that Messiah and Savior the Apostles taught and preached or the Apostles of the Messiah are themselves false.
Ask yourself this one question, Where in all of the Holy Bible does it say, By My many Names you shall know Me, or call on Me, or worship Me?" It doesn’t but it does talk about His Name."
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Re: What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?
The 61 % are so misguided

We speak English in America… It is not Yeshua… It is Jesus

We don’t speak Aramaic or Hebrew…. we don’t call Chinese people by their Chinese name in America

You get no brownie points for trying to sound hip

If you speak English his name is Jesus
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Re: What was the Messiah Name when He was born in Israel?
"From the very beginning I want to make it clear that the name JESUS has only been around for the past 400 years -- that is a FACT.
The name JESUS is not an equivalent for our Savior's Birth Name -- that too is a Fact. The name JESUS, pronounced Geezus, by most and Hezeus by others, is not and never has been the English equivelant of the Greek -- the so-called, Inspired Greek.
Even if we accept that the Greek is the inspired, Holy Spirit, language, the name, JESUS, is not that. Still, scholars from every side and in every school of theology and from every pulpit preachers and street corner cryier will tell you the JESUS is the English for the Inspired Greek -- that is a deception, a lie.
Keep reading and you will see why this is true, aside from the false name JESUS not even coming close to being a transliteration of our Savior's Birth Name, YaHshua. The Old English transliteration, from the Old Testament is Joshua -- neither of these Names, the Hebrew/get lost, or the Old English attempt, are anywhere near the false name that nearly everyone has accepted.
Just a simple question, before we continue -- Why change His Name from YaHshua, or Joshua, both available yesterday and today? Why, why replace with a completely different name, a name that sounds nothing like the Name as presented and found in the Old Testament for thousands of years, a name known then and now?"

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Again i am making it clear believers who were saved by faith and say Jesus . I am not saying you are unsaved. I am saying by accepting deceptions you are easily lead astray.
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The name Jesus is a lot a lot older than 400 years lol

I have family Bibles from my Kin in England from the 1700s… name is CLEARLY Jefus chrift

Old English f meaning long S

You’re a liar





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