Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

A bruised reed He will not break,
A smoking ember He will not quench - - Word of God about God and His mercy and love for us.

Of course the enemy comes against us.

And we are made stronger through our trials.

Simply put, God makes stars out of our scars.

The Word also says that trials are in our lives to assist us in helping others through their trials/growth.



Really, Saxon ... regarding your comments about the Bible being authored by the workers of darkness/whatever it was you said ...

Do you really think that the plans of the enemy could EVER have victory over the hand of the Divine?

Not happening, whether you want to believe it or not.

The Word of God is more powerful than any two-edged sword and able to cut through the b.s./fat to the truth/meat of the matter - - Word of God about the WORD, aka The Holy Bible (minus the b.s. part).

I believe that the Bible was written on multiple levels, inspired by The Most High, and that most of us as humans, are not even comprehending level one.

And I believe all this - - regardless of any interference by the principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this age!

They are no power against the Almighty.




I loved your post/answer, though, as to why suffering is allowed.

This part in particular:

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.



As I understand it, when gold is refined, all the dross/impurities are eventually burned away by fire/heat. The purer the gold becomes, the clearer the refiner's reflection within it.




And this you wrote:

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.


- - Also in the Word - - Nothing happens in your life that you cannot handle and not only handle, but escape and be thankful ...



Just saying ... you're thumping.

LOL

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Really, Saxon ... regarding your comments about the Bible being authored by the workers of darkness/whatever it was you said ...

Do you really think that the plans of the enemy could EVER have victory over the hand of the Divine?

Not happening, whether you want to believe it or not.

The Word of God is more powerful than any two-edged sword and able to cut through the b.s./fat to the truth/meat of the matter - - Word of God about the WORD, aka The Holy Bible (minus the b.s. part).

I believe that the Bible was written on multiple levels, inspired by The Most High, and that most of us as humans, are not even comprehending level one.

And I believe all this - - regardless of any interference by the principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this age!

They are no power against the Almighty.

hey.

Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.


As with any good parent, the child is allowed to experience things on their own with the parent lending assistance at minimal times as to not spoil the child.

As well, suffering is the great "hammer" in the "forge" of Mother Earths spirit development school. And much like a weight training facility, some of the mature spirits can lift heavy weights (endure much suffering) while other more immature newbie spirits get crushed by the lightest of weights.

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

In such do these lives here form the spirits of the Children of God.

Saxon... I'm curious. Where do you get your info about all of this?

Peter admonished, "beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you, but to the degree that you share the sufferings of CHRIST, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation in HIS Glory you may rejoice with exaltations" 1st Peter 4: 12-13

"Let 'US' make man in our image" ... both male and female parts in the original Hebrew/Genesis account of creation ... there's tons of things that are going to blow people away when they find out some of the truths about the unknown.


Eyes have not seen and ears have not heard ...


New Day's coming!

Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.


As with any good parent, the child is allowed to experience things on their own with the parent lending assistance at minimal times as to not spoil the child.

As well, suffering is the great "hammer" in the "forge" of Mother Earths spirit development school. And much like a weight training facility, some of the mature spirits can lift heavy weights (endure much suffering) while other more immature newbie spirits get crushed by the lightest of weights.

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

In such do these lives here form the spirits of the Children of God.

I never heard of this Creator "OTOH"...there is only one God,..the God that created the Universe and all it contains...and His Son Jesus Christ the redeemer of us all.


Oh, Creator On The Other Hand is the real Creator unlike the stand alone "father" you've been lied to concerning.

If this creation doesn't point out the fallacy of that lopsided notion, then nothing will, as EVERYTHING which lives is a product of BOTH male AND female, and such is True of our Creator as well since such is the very foundation of Love itself.

Gender isn't just some fanciful good feeling good time temporary mortal design, it spans the Heavens right up into the throneS of BOTH our Mother AND Father Creator.

So, when you find anything worth talking about that's alive which is outside of this design, give us a call.


Tell me, how you became to know the god you proclaim and the veracity of it?. What makes you think what you know is truth and the others a falacy?

Please explain

Basically man is prone to all the sinful natures of the flesh because he was initially disobedient.

That's why basically life is a test to resist those desires of the flesh and to find one's way back to God

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So when Lucifer, I mean Jesus died on the cross and took all of the sins of the world what was his judgement?

Jesus was a sinner plain and simple and if you can't see the deception then you are truly deceived.

hey.

Peter admonished, "beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you, but to the degree that you share the sufferings of CHRIST, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation in HIS Glory you may rejoice with exaltations" 1st Peter 4: 12-13

1) from the 'real God'...or 'what is':

nothing real can be harmed. nothing unreal exists. Once this is understood..therein lies the peace of God and his creations...(no more illusions of pain). (only your ego image can be harmed, physical and mental...and it is not real in any way. Let go, and be free(within stillness)...or see #2 below if you wish to continue suffering in delusions.

2) from the demigods (the gods of worship)(superbeings):

through adversity comes growth . a 'good' father lets his children suffer in order to grow and evolve.

END OF STORY.

Hi, Saxon. Thank-you for your insights. I have come to a conclusion very similar to yours and I am just curious about how you fit some things into this.

In your theory/belief you are talking about the lives of human beings. How do you integrate the rest of creation into it?

In other words what is the role of the animals/plants, etc. in this lesson. Are they less than the human being in the overall scheme of things? Are they equal to the human being? Are they more than the human being?

I ask because it sometimes seem that the human mind/ego sometimes thinks that it is the only thing of importance.

TIA.

somethin sure up!

hey.


Hey, good to see you around Dalak.