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Psychopathy is a genetic condition where the person is born with a brain wired as such that the person experiences reduced or nonexistent empathy and conscious. There are varying degrees of psychopathy. Psychopathy is like extroverted-autism

Most of the general population has psychopathy with mania to varying degrees. Mania means the opposite of depression, feeling high, racy, egotistic, speedy, hyper.

Heres an episode of House where the female patient is accidentally found to have psychopathy during a brain scan looking for something else (USA residents only). The episode is called "remorse", which is one thing full blow psychopaths dont have at all and even more manic but partially psychopathic people barely have:

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Load almost any random myspace profile to see a person reflect mania on their profile and in their bizarre pictures. Most these people have partial psychopathy and are more psychopathic than not.

Its possible people like David Wilcock also have psychopathy because of the way they act and speak. Alex Jones probably does not have psychopathy but definitely has mania
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Rock Stars likely have a low rate of psychopathy, because they make up emotional songs about interpersonal relationships.
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Rock Stars likely have a low rate of psychopathy, because they make up emotional songs about interpersonal relationships.
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I don`t believe it, i think it`s a result of the environment/past experience(s)
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I don`t believe it, i think it`s a result of the environment/past experience(s)
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No because people with hard backgrounds can have empathy while people with soft ones be psychopaths. Only MKUltra torture programing can create alters with psychopathy, the rest of the millions and millions of psychopaths are genetic, like anything else, hair color, eye color, down syndrome, wilson's disease, williams syndrome, etc etc etc etc
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You obviously have absolutely no experience with psychopathology (or psychopathy for that matter!). Mania is classed as a psychosis (bipolar disorder), psychopathy is a personality disorder (DSM- IV). Two very distincly different disorders. Neither rarely, IF EVER co-occur in the same individual. You'd have more chance of FLYING TO THE MOON than finding a person who has both conditions at once. Look at all the psychopaths who have been studied, NOT ONE in the thousands examined has been diagnosed with mania. It is almost physiologically impossible to have both conditions occuring at once in an individual (not saying they cannot, but it is VERY RARE)..
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super oppressive jargon

this shite is invented to get "difficult" people under control

but what if it's just the way people ARE

manic, depressed whatever

ain't it just the human condition? Unless it's something horrible that makes people kill or abuse other people, how could anyone avoid being "psychopathic" in this insane world?
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I don`t believe it, i think it`s a result of the environment/past experience(s)
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I guess you have to experience it to believe it.

The latest Sherlock Holmes film with Robert Downey Jnr touched on this very subject. When visiting a psycopath in jail Holmes said that he hoped to look at the autopsy of the fellow because he felt sure the psycopathy (or criminality) would be physically apparent.

There are many cases where the environment can warp people, but IMHO Psycopathy is a genetic glitch that I hope they will be able to genetically scan for, just as they scan for Downs Syndrome or cystic fibrosis.
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You can't judge the mental condition of an individual by looking at works (even a facebook or myspace page) that is created for public consumption.

This is because an individual that is on display will very often try to place what they believe is their best foot forward. Showing a lot of energy, being interested in varied topics and so on shows an interest in being liked more often than a true mania.

There are some other rules to keep in mind:

1. Most teens show up as being narcissists, so a true judgment of that state is not made until adulthood.

2. Modern self-esteem training causes a mimicking of narcissistic traits in young adults.

3. Certain situations cause the assumption of psychopathic behavior amongst non-psychopaths. Living in a dangerous urban area, or a war zone, or being placed in prison at an early age or for a long time can all do the trick.

In part, this means that internet psychology is less useful for direct diagnosis than personal interview. It is best not to assume that "everyone" has psychopathic tendencies based on facebook pages for instance!
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You can't judge the mental condition of an individual by looking at works (even a facebook or myspace page) that is created for public consumption.

This is because an individual that is on display will very often try to place what they believe is their best foot forward. Showing a lot of energy, being interested in varied topics and so on shows an interest in being liked more often than a true mania.

There are some other rules to keep in mind:

1. Most teens show up as being narcissists, so a true judgment of that state is not made until adulthood.

2. Modern self-esteem training causes a mimicking of narcissistic traits in young adults.

3. Certain situations cause the assumption of psychopathic behavior amongst non-psychopaths. Living in a dangerous urban area, or a war zone, or being placed in prison at an early age or for a long time can all do the trick.

In part, this means that internet psychology is less useful for direct diagnosis than personal interview. It is best not to assume that "everyone" has psychopathic tendencies based on facebook pages for instance!
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Yes you can, if you knew a number of people and what they put on their pages

lets say 15 people mistreated you and all 15 had the same MO of what they express - then than expression is a red flag indicator that others will be the same, since 15 out of 15 that you knew were. for instance if 15 people like skulls and ended up being liars, the changes are the 16th person into skulls will be as well

plus they express things on pages that gives clear indication of who they are, in blogs and stuff. Youre reply makes no sense

Plus you can easily tell if someone has empathy and is normal or not, there is a HUGE HUGE difference, so HUGE
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super oppressive jargon

this shite is invented to get "difficult" people under control

but what if it's just the way people ARE

manic, depressed whatever

ain't it just the human condition? Unless it's something horrible that makes people kill or abuse other people, how could anyone avoid being "psychopathic" in this insane world?
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No your reply makes no sense - psychopathy literally means a person who doesnt have empathy or the normal amount of it, conscious.

Lets just say a psychopath WOULD reply to this thread with what you just replied with, to defend it's self because a truth-nerve was struck
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Re: Manic Psychopathy
super oppressive jargon

this shite is invented to get "difficult" people under control

but what if it's just the way people ARE

manic, depressed whatever

ain't it just the human condition? Unless it's something horrible that makes people kill or abuse other people, how could anyone avoid being "psychopathic" in this insane world?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 845850


you cant "invent" what i just said, you are just not intelligent enough to understand the original post

let me say it one more time for you before i shut my computer off and go to bed...

a Psychopath doesnt experience empathy or caring for anothers feelings at all, and will hurt others for either self-gain or sadism.

do you understand now, you cant "invent" or make this up, thats what the term psychopath means

do you know what the words feelings, empathy, conscious and hurting others mean?

this is not jargon. what the hell is wrong with you in the head?
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You can't judge the mental condition of an individual by looking at works (even a facebook or myspace page) that is created for public consumption.

This is because an individual that is on display will very often try to place what they believe is their best foot forward. Showing a lot of energy, being interested in varied topics and so on shows an interest in being liked more often than a true mania.

There are some other rules to keep in mind:

1. Most teens show up as being narcissists, so a true judgment of that state is not made until adulthood.

2. Modern self-esteem training causes a mimicking of narcissistic traits in young adults.

3. Certain situations cause the assumption of psychopathic behavior amongst non-psychopaths. Living in a dangerous urban area, or a war zone, or being placed in prison at an early age or for a long time can all do the trick.

In part, this means that internet psychology is less useful for direct diagnosis than personal interview. It is best not to assume that "everyone" has psychopathic tendencies based on facebook pages for instance!
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I read accounts psychopaths but it didn't sound quite the why you describe it. Not that easy to spot with out testing or first hand knowledge of the person.

As for liking lots of subjects, you would have me in it.
Just about everything interest me. I think it my age nothing else.
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Psychopathy is a genetic condition
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That is an opinion with no evidence.

There is no evidence for you claims of psychiatry.
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you cant "invent" what i just said, you are just not intelligent enough to understand the original post

let me say it one more time for you before i shut my computer off and go to bed...

a Psychopath doesnt experience empathy or caring for anothers feelings at all, and will hurt others for either self-gain or sadism.

do you understand now, you cant "invent" or make this up, thats what the term psychopath means

do you know what the words feelings, empathy, conscious and hurting others mean?

this is not jargon. what the hell is wrong with you in the head?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 888985


More conformist opinions. Others don't behave like you want them to??
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[link to transsociopathica.blogspot.com]

The Mark of the Broken Beast - Traits of the Sociopath


Below are the signs to look out for in you find a sociopath entering or present in your life. Please be aware that you need to identify a cluster of the traits below in order to seriously consider that you are dealing with a sociopath/psychopath. All of us have at least one of the traits on this list - so do not find one or two traits and come to any firm conclusions. The list is based on my own and others personal experience who are been caught in the snare of these lunatics.

Sociopath/Psychopath Potential Traits

1. Waking up in a Pool of Sweat
2. Severe Migraines During Full Moons and Beginning of Menstrual Cycles
3. Needing at Most 4-5 Hours Sleep a Night
4. Inconsistent Timelines and Missing Past Histories
5. Eyes Dead and Lifeless/then Racing Frantically from Side-to-Side When Pulls off a Scam. No "Crows Feet" on females due to smiling with their teeth and not eyes.
6. Falls Asleep and Wakes Up Instantly
7. Constantly Trying to Correct Others Opinions (arrogant pseudo-skeptic/debunker)
8. Narcissism
9. Righteous Indignation/Condescending
10. Crocodile Tears and Unconvincing Emotional Responses
11. Extreme and Obvious Flattery - Emulating/"Brown Nosing"/Sycophant
12. Idealisation Followed by Cold Rejection
13. Sexual Promiscuity/Bi Sexuality
14. History of Failed Relationships/One Night Stands
15. Moving from State to State or Region Under Suspicious or Vague Circumstances
16. Claims to be Only Person who Really Relates to You
17. Obsessed with the Latest Pharmaceuticals/Hypochondriac
18. Has No Real Creative Talent (can only copy other styles - can't innovate/be original)
19. Buys into Either Secular and Non-Secular Belief Systems to Act Superior/Enlightened
20. Gifts Designed to Buy You or to Mould you in a Certain Way (their taste in clothes, pop psychology books)
21. Lack of Emotional Depth in Terms of Other's Problems/Hurt
22. Little or No Interest in Parenting (even if they have children while claiming to adore them)
23. Easily Bored
24. Becomes Obsessed with Hobby or Causes/Individuals and then Loses Interest Instantly
25. Feels they are Entitled to the Best of Everything
26. Exploits Parents, the Elderly or Handicapped (money, free rent, getting into wills)
27. Defends Orthodoxy Based on Reading a Book/Discovery Channel/Penn and Teller
28. Claims to Have a Special Relationship with God if Faking Being Religious
29. Either Extreme Atheist or "Holy Roller"
30. Highly Unreliable/Broken Promises/Nothing is Ever their Fault
31. Wants to Know Your Every Move/Lifestory - While their Own is Elusive or Vague
32. High Testosterone (large clitoris/sexually aggressive/"pervy" pronounced Adam's Apple in Females)
33. Parasitic Lifestyle/Slacker/Highly Strung "Genius"/Middle Aged Student


IF YOU FIND YOURSELF TICKING OFF 13 OF THE ABOVE TRAITS THEN BE CAREFUL AND REMAIN VIGILANT.
19 OR MORE THEN GET AWAY FAST.
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signs you might have antisocial personality disorder:

You collect knives and/or guns

You store food in hidden places in your house

You wonder why other people show so much emotion and are so weak

You wonder why people help each other

You find funerals funny, especially all the crying

You are not afraid of snakes/scorpions/roller coasters

You are very brave, take risks, and if you are smart, you have raped and killed and gotten away with it

You tortured animals when you were a kid to see how and why they died, if you were bored, as an adult, you'd do it again

You think sex is fine with anyone of any age

You think morals are for losers who lock themselves behind moral codes that are antiquated

You like the idea of anarchy because you know in your heart you would survive quite well for you are willing and able to do anything to anyone to survive, even eating another person

You like status symbols, shiny jewelry and things, you like to make others envious of what you have

You believe might makes right, the strong should rule the weak, it's only natural

When other are hurting or bleeding and screaming, you never feel anything in your heart or stomach, no butterflies, no nausia no cramps of pain like others feel

You steal even when you don't have to, and lie when you don't have to also, because it is fun to get one over on somebody

You like to trick people

You like the high you get from playing God and killing another person

Your dad was weak willed and your mother made fun of him, and/or you were an orphan

You do not think that God exists because he let you do horrible things and nothing bad happened to you because of it

You do worry that satan is real because you sometimes feel a malicious presence looking over your shoulder

You are probably good at logic and planning and electronics and math, you are partially autistic in that area

You very likely have some kind of head trauma from when you were a child

You very likely had a learning disability, even though you are good at other things

You read people very well, you know when they are letting their guard down,

You never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never let your guard down...
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PSYCHIATRIC FASCISM

by Don Weitz
Toronto, Ontario

For almost 150 years, psychiatry has been masquerading as a medical science and as a branch of medicine. It is not and never was a science or a type of health care. Modern psychiatry is driven by unproved empirical assumptions, medical biases, and pseudo-scientific opinions. There are no scientifically established, independently proven facts in psychiatry. Psychiatry, in fact, has no laws or testable hypotheses and no coherent and comprehensive theory. Psychiatry conspicuously lacks scientific proof or evidence to support its news-media-parroted claims of "mental illness" or "disorders".

After about seventy years of psychiatric practices and research, there is still no diagnostic test for schizophrenia or any of the other three hundred so-called mental disorders listed in the current edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), which is essentially a list of class-driven moral judgements of allegedly abnormal behaviour, published and propagandized by the American Psychiatric Association. The DSM is the official bible of organized psychiatry. The DSM is the equivalent of the Malleus Maleficarum in the middle ages, which Spanish inquisitors used to identify, target, stigmatize and burn witches and heretics. Today's witches, heretics, and scapegoats are labeled mentally ill or schizophrenic.
[link to www.antipsychiatry.org]
[link to www.annals-general-psychiatry.com]



Psychiatry: No Science No Cures


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super oppressive jargon

this shite is invented to get "difficult" people under control
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Exactly.
Made up like psichology.
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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by the way, don't confuse antisocial personality disorder with autism...

I believe autism is a birth defect, where the child does not make as much pleasure neurotransmitters as is needed to form social bonds when an infant or child.

Because we are organic and in organics there are varying levels of interaction and levels of damage, there are levels or degrees of autism, from severally handicapped, to semi-retarded, to very slow and then slow and then functional on a physical level but not emotional, and then semi-emotionally functional, and then nearly emotionally equivalent to healthy human beings, and then there are those who are overly social and emotional to varying degrees.

There are three I would like to discuss:

General autism, the child grows up fearing social contact because things don't make sense to them. What does the mother expect from them? Why so much disapproval when they don't get it? Math, hand-eye coordination skills, these things are easily understood, emotions are not, and why not?

When we interact, even if we don't share much information, our brains make happy neurotransmitters. We are rewarded for interacting and keeping that interacting going no matter what. Also, we learned how to do much of this emotional interacting when we were babies and toddlers, so we don't even have to think about it anymore, we just do it, like riding a bike.

For us, the kind hearted among us, we don't like to hurt people physically or emotionally, so we try to avoid both. People on tv tease each other, but in real life, no one can be teased very often without making someone very upset, yet people still do it. Go figure. We learn to feel good when we make others feel good, so we learn to try to do that often. People act nicer when you try, even if you get it wrong, and tell them you were just trying to help make them feel better.

Asperger's Syndrome. My wife has it.

These people try very hard to connect, they usually learn over time how to do it, but they still don't get much of the happy neurotransmitters for their efforts, and a lot of times they don't get many positive responses from others even when they work very hard at being nice. The reason is, is because they look at the situation as a problem to be solved. If person A wants love, give love... so they will give love, but not know exactly the best time to do it. And person A often feels like the autistic person is using them. All you can do is keep trying and learning how to interact, over time it will start to make sense.



The last group, I'd like to talk about is the highly functioning Asperger's syndrome group, those mostly in Academia and Government think tanks and in the covert agencies.

You have a lack of a conscience, and that can damage you in the long run if you don't set for yourself some moral guidelines. It is not a dog eat dog world. It is a world shared with billions of others and only a fool would discount the significance that others might bring them down the line. Remember that in evolution, it isn't the best of the best that survives, it is those in the population who are not the norm or not the best at only one thing, it is the odd balls.

This genetic cleansing you are working on, you are wiping out the oddballs, you are going against nature and morality. Please consider that thoroughly. And if you happen to believe in a God, consider the wrath you will be bringing down upon your head for the evil you are about to do.





GLP