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How do groceries get so much perfect food?
I just got back from a road trip and wondered how all the groceries, restaurants, and other food sellers in the US get so much "perfect" looking food - how can there be so many perfect tomatoes in every store, enough to feed the entire US population and even more than enough because so much is wasted?

Is it because this food is not real? Think about it -- new fruits and vegetables are delivered constantly - how can there by that many being grown to fill all these grocery stores? It must be a fake. It's not like that in most other countries. So I conclude the US is not real, we are in a matrix, if you will, and the food is a fake based on past memories, and that's why it has no taste or if it does have taste, it's got plenty of MSG and "natural flavorings" --

And why is all the food unblemished? When you grow things in a garden, they have lots of bad parts, and they don't look like a magazine picture, the way the fruits and vegetables look at the grocery store, all shiny and perfect.

I remember when I was a kid, we'd get corn on the cob and there would usually be lots of bad places in it, or bugs inside. Now, every ear is perfect, no bugs, and the silk just comes right off. Same with potatoes. We'd even get potato chips that had bad places on them, green spots. Now, every chip is perfect. What's up with all this?
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I just got back from a road trip and wondered how all the groceries, restaurants, and other food sellers in the US get so much "perfect" looking food - how can there be so many perfect tomatoes in every store, enough to feed the entire US population and even more than enough because so much is wasted?

Is it because this food is not real? Think about it -- new fruits and vegetables are delivered constantly - how can there by that many being grown to fill all these grocery stores? It must be a fake. It's not like that in most other countries. So I conclude the US is not real, we are in a matrix, if you will, and the food is a fake based on past memories, and that's why it has no taste or if it does have taste, it's got plenty of MSG and "natural flavorings" --

And why is all the food unblemished? When you grow things in a garden, they have lots of bad parts, and they don't look like a magazine picture, the way the fruits and vegetables look at the grocery store, all shiny and perfect.

I remember when I was a kid, we'd get corn on the cob and there would usually be lots of bad places in it, or bugs inside. Now, every ear is perfect, no bugs, and the silk just comes right off. Same with potatoes. We'd even get potato chips that had bad places on them, green spots. Now, every chip is perfect. What's up with all this?
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THIS!

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chemicals.

AND (to use corn as an example) they keep the pretty ones whole and take the ugly ones off the cob (canned and whatnot). Same for tomatos etc.
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GMO, daniel-san... GMO
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Try this little experiment...buy a couple of tomatoes and bananas. Let them sit on your kitchen counter for a couple of weeks. You will notice something that should disturb you (at least it did me)...THEY DO NOT ROT! I have noticed the same with bread as well. It can sit there for weeks and not grow mold. But I will bake a homemade loaf and there is hair on it within days.

I think you are right, OP. Perfect food is TOO perfect. Not even the flies will land on them!
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Try this little experiment...buy a couple of tomatoes and bananas. Let them sit on your kitchen counter for a couple of weeks. You will notice something that should disturb you (at least it did me)...THEY DO NOT ROT! I have noticed the same with bread as well. It can sit there for weeks and not grow mold. But I will bake a homemade loaf and there is hair on it within days.

I think you are right, OP. Perfect food is TOO perfect. Not even the flies will land on them!
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preservatives.
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Yes, I have noticed that even some organic seems unreal.

It worries me.

Industrial Organic...
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Technology evolves in time. 40 years, preservatives and GMO has come a long way.

I'm sure TVs in your day weren't flatscreens either?
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Precisely what happens. Food is brought in from all over the planet. You'll notice how produce prices fluctuate along with actual produce variety changing throughout the year. You've also heard about how if trucking went down, we'd have 3 days before the shelves were empty. Research "Just In Time Inventories" and how it works.

Edit: Produce companies have also come up with precise timelines and or storage practices that allow them to pick items before they are ripe and deliver them at the peak of freshness. Dole bananas has a special temp controlled room they hold bananas in until ready to ship.

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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Precisely what happens. Food is brought in from all over the planet. You'll notice how produce prices fluctuate along with actual produce variety changing throughout the year. You've also heard about how if trucking went down, we'd have 3 days before the shelves were empty. Research "Just In Time Inventories" and how it works.
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Yeah. Just in time inventories will be the death of us all should SHTF. They talked about it on the colony. All that's left will be canned food.
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I can't wait til the local farmers market is open for the season, and I can stock up on real produce for my juicer!!
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I can't wait til the local farmers market is open for the season, and I can stock up on real produce for my juicer!!
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I know, right? Don't forget you can jam, can, jar, and pickle it!
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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OP, maybe we have high tech aliens ruling over earth. I have seen a space portal open up in the sky and a military caravan escorting a ship thru the portal and it closed up. I will swear to this in a lie detector test

so maybe all the food is replicated somehow, like in Star trek

Ive noticed one stores traffic during an hour I shopped there and theres no way they sell enough to make a profit, I would guess maybe 5 percent of perishable food is sold. So how do you justify throwing away most everything? They cant be making a profit, Something is up
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Ive driven at all hours of the night, and never noticed the amount of delivery trucks that would be required to replenish supply. If this was true. Youd have bumper to bumper delivery trucks clogging up the road . and yes, esp the night hours when everyones asleep. But I have not seen this.

Take into account the millions of restaurants too. I have a friend that worked at a restaurant and he only mentioned a flour delivery truck that would arrive every night, I didnt ask him about the produce.

Still the lack of traffic does not justify the millions of pounds of food each city needs and multiply that by hundreds of thousands of towns and cities.

Many will think Im crazy, but I know what I saw about the portal, and I know the truth . Maybe most food is delivered via them portals.
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it's called shitty modern world = at war against nature and our planet, control everything must be under control and identical.

time to search for real food grown in a real garden don't you think?
also you can play with your imagination just looking at a basket full of the same fruits or vegetables, same but they are all different (and they don't taste exactly the same neither).

earth don't like clones she prefers variety.
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Ive drivem at all hours of the night, and never noticed the amount of delivery trucks that would be required to replenish supply. If this was true. Youd have bumper to bumper delivery trucks clogging up the road . and yes, esp the night hours when everyones asleep. But I have not seen this.

Take into account the millions of restaurants too. I have a friend that worked at a restaurant and he only mentioned a flour delivery truck that would arrive every night, I didnt ask him about the produce.

Still the lack of traffic does not justify the millions of pounds of food each city needs and multiply that by hundreds of thousands of towns and cities.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Really depends on "need" from each location. The store I worked at had at least 1 truck per night coming in. Others have one 2-3 times per week and the same will go with eateries. The main regional hubs where trucks come from are huge. Ours came from one of these.

SUPERVALU operates one of the largest grocery supply chain networks in the country with more than 21 million square feet of facilities strategically located to support our coast-to-coast retail operations and customers.

[link to www.supervalu.com]
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with a lot of veggies harvested commercially, you would be amazed how much is left behind in the field to be tilled under/worked in for decomposition. a number of factors involved...but maybe the silliest is rejecting a root/fruit because it has an odd shape. i remember seeing several acres/#in thousands of non-ideal shaped butternut squash left in a field (post-harvest) to be tilled under. i knew they were non-organic, but i went ahead and grabbed a bunch of them for myself and others.

of course, one could argue that the organic matter of the rejects is still getting cycled back into the system, but there is a major loss in production efficiency by adhering to such lofty/false standards of perfection.
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That is one seriously odd avatar you have there friend.
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That is one seriously odd avatar you have there friend.
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It's Russian.
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Obviously you haven't discovered the food presser template...you put food paste in the hopper and it prints out exactly the right food you dialed into the machine so its all the same food paste but its colored different and in different shapes.
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
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Ive drivem at all hours of the night, and never noticed the amount of delivery trucks that would be required to replenish supply. If this was true. Youd have bumper to bumper delivery trucks clogging up the road . and yes, esp the night hours when everyones asleep. But I have not seen this.

Take into account the millions of restaurants too. I have a friend that worked at a restaurant and he only mentioned a flour delivery truck that would arrive every night, I didnt ask him about the produce.

Still the lack of traffic does not justify the millions of pounds of food each city needs and multiply that by hundreds of thousands of towns and cities.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Really depends on "need" from each location. The store I worked at had at least 1 truck per night coming in. Others have one 2-3 times per week and the same will go with eateries. The main regional hubs where trucks come from are huge. Ours came from one of these.

SUPERVALU operates one of the largest grocery supply chain networks in the country with more than 21 million square feet of facilities strategically located to support our coast-to-coast retail operations and customers.

[link to www.supervalu.com]
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Every major city and town needs tons of food daily. I still dont see the number of required delivery trucks that would be required of this magnitude.

Im just a crazy guy that wants to break free from the matrix, lol
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Dont they spray a wax like layer on fruits and veggies?
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Obviously you haven't discovered the food presser template...you put food paste in the hopper and it prints out exactly the right food you dialed into the machine so its all the same food paste but its colored different and in different shapes.
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LOL, sounds funny, but everything is a mixture of the vibrating molecules in different densities and mixes . Im sure in quantum science it would be possible to arrange anything as long as the blue print or 'recipe' so to speak was supplied of the exact genetic soup. Like Captain Picard orders Earl Grey tea from the food replicator.
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The imperfect food is used in processed and canned products.
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This should be pinned
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OMG, please dont. Ill be destroyed, my reputation ruined ! lol. Seriously, Im being serious. It looks bad, but Im convinced we are in some kind of holodeck.
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This should be pinned
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OMG, please dont. Ill be destroyed, my reputation ruined ! lol. Seriously, Im being serious. It looks bad, but Im convinced we are in some kind of holodeck.
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I thought you were kidding when I read your posts. But I guess you are not. Interesting
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We had preservatives back in the 70's as well, and I remember having cans of spaghetti sauce grow mold in a short time. Nowadays it stays perfect forever, no mold.

Lots of food is GMO but even the so-called organic food is too pretty to be real. And there can't possibly be enough of it being grown to keep replenishing it constantly! We'd need a zillion trucks to deliver it if it in fact did exist.
 Quoting: Eggifer


Ive drivem at all hours of the night, and never noticed the amount of delivery trucks that would be required to replenish supply. If this was true. Youd have bumper to bumper delivery trucks clogging up the road . and yes, esp the night hours when everyones asleep. But I have not seen this.

Take into account the millions of restaurants too. I have a friend that worked at a restaurant and he only mentioned a flour delivery truck that would arrive every night, I didnt ask him about the produce.

Still the lack of traffic does not justify the millions of pounds of food each city needs and multiply that by hundreds of thousands of towns and cities.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Really depends on "need" from each location. The store I worked at had at least 1 truck per night coming in. Others have one 2-3 times per week and the same will go with eateries. The main regional hubs where trucks come from are huge. Ours came from one of these.

SUPERVALU operates one of the largest grocery supply chain networks in the country with more than 21 million square feet of facilities strategically located to support our coast-to-coast retail operations and customers.

[link to www.supervalu.com]
 Quoting: Sedi


Every major city and town needs tons of food daily. I still dont see the number of required delivery trucks that would be required of this magnitude.

Im just a crazy guy that wants to break free from the matrix, lol
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .

That's because you are asleep when trucks deliver pallets of food to the grocery stores.. Each store gets up to four warehouse deliveries a night (give or take)... Dairy, produce, and regular grocery.. Think how many stores are in your city.. No traffic on the roads late at night.... Not rocket science here...
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Ive drivem at all hours of the night, and never noticed the amount of delivery trucks that would be required to replenish supply. If this was true. Youd have bumper to bumper delivery trucks clogging up the road . and yes, esp the night hours when everyones asleep. But I have not seen this.

Take into account the millions of restaurants too. I have a friend that worked at a restaurant and he only mentioned a flour delivery truck that would arrive every night, I didnt ask him about the produce.

Still the lack of traffic does not justify the millions of pounds of food each city needs and multiply that by hundreds of thousands of towns and cities.
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .


Really depends on "need" from each location. The store I worked at had at least 1 truck per night coming in. Others have one 2-3 times per week and the same will go with eateries. The main regional hubs where trucks come from are huge. Ours came from one of these.

SUPERVALU operates one of the largest grocery supply chain networks in the country with more than 21 million square feet of facilities strategically located to support our coast-to-coast retail operations and customers.

[link to www.supervalu.com]
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Every major city and town needs tons of food daily. I still dont see the number of required delivery trucks that would be required of this magnitude.

Im just a crazy guy that wants to break free from the matrix, lol
 Quoting: ABADDON - APOLLYON .

That's because you are asleep when trucks deliver pallets of food to the grocery stores.. Each store gets up to four warehouse deliveries a night (give or take)... Dairy, produce, and regular grocery.. Think how many stores are in your city.. No traffic on the roads late at night.... Not rocket science here...
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Nope, I worked nights at a restaurant till 3 am, and Ive been on the road at all nights from 1-5 am in the morning.

Delivery trucks come at night, yes, But Im saying, my point is, it isnt enough. It isnt enough to justify


Were just brainstorming here,

I know stuff in the military (secrets) that 99 percent of the public does not know.

Ive had friends in NASA that told me stuff that would make you pee your pants and blow your mind

Im just certain theres a food conspiracy and Im trying to figure it out.





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