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When times get tough and you want to know who to trust, trust the poor, the hard working, the humble, the outcasts, the ugly.

 
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Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of
heaven.

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after
righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the
children of God.

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’
sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute
you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for
my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward
in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were
before you.

Matthew 5:3-12
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Nah man. Sometimes.

Spent a month in a real small town, like population less than a few hundred. Those poor, hard-working, ugly, outcasts were all thieves, drunken, drugged out, sad sob story sorry pieces of shit.

I'm not saying this. It's how it was and is. Trust people on a case by case basis, putting people in groups of trust worthy or not, you will be wrong because it's a general assumption and not an absolute truth.
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hesright
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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WE....the poor have learned to live poor,we have adapted,we know how tyo survive on nothing!
We will not help you, we will kick your fucking teeth out and beat the life out of you! we hate you and you will pay for everything you have ever said about us poor people!
ENJOY YOUR FUTURE ASSHOLES,YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU!

5a
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WE....the poor have learned to live poor,we have adapted,we know how tyo survive on nothing!
We will not help you, we will kick your fucking teeth out and beat the life out of you! we hate you and you will pay for everything you have ever said about us poor people!
ENJOY YOUR FUTURE ASSHOLES,YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU!

5a
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LOL hey there nice guy.
Banned as usual.

“It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.”
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If anyone can be trusted, it is because they choose to be trustworthy. So choose to not lie, cheat, or steal . This has nothing to do with being poor or ugly. Many wealthy people work very hard, and can also be quite humble. Outcasts are many times cast out for a good reason.
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These people have been labelled as untrustworthy, lazy, dishonorable and dangerous.

As a whole, this is a lie and a way to isolate these people from society and to make people hate them.

When in truth, they really are the "salt of the Earth".

The good people, the honorable people, the unseen people.
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I agree with you OP. some of the nicest, best people that I have met in this world have been homeless etc.
God's people do not care about possessions, ego, vanity and getting ahead at all costs (which always involves taking advantage of others).
We are the salt of the Earth and the "Elite" of this Earth are so successful in this life because they have sold their soul to the dark side.

They have their reward. This life.

We will have ours. Eternal life as Kings and Queens, Brothers and Sisters, we are whole and all of us together make ONE and are connected to the ONE.

Nice post! I don't know about the ugly part though as I see the beautiful spirit that inhabits these so called "outcasts". It shines from within and makes them beautiful outside and in to me.

May God bless and keep us all!

With much love-
Goddess
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Misshapes, mistakes misfits wed' like to go to town but we can't risk it
" I don't invite this shit, it just comes to me", Carlito Brigantte
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The good the sad and the ugly
" I don't invite this shit, it just comes to me", Carlito Brigantte
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WE....the poor have learned to live poor,we have adapted,we know how tyo survive on nothing!
We will not help you, we will kick your fucking teeth out and beat the life out of you! we hate you and you will pay for everything you have ever said about us poor people!
ENJOY YOUR FUTURE ASSHOLES,YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU!

5a
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Wow! Speak for yourself! I think you are in the minority.
Obviously a very bitter person with no Spiritual Awakening happening to you yet. I see how hurt you are. I have compassion and understanding for you. I am sorry for whatever you have been through to make you feel this way. I think things will change for you.
I pray for you.
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These people have been labelled as untrustworthy, lazy, dishonorable and dangerous.

As a whole, this is a lie and a way to isolate these people from society and to make people hate them.

When in truth, they really are the "salt of the Earth".

The good people, the honorable people, the unseen people.
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Nice in theory, right?, but are sure you are willing to put your money down on what Jesus says? You sound hesitate in your words, like you have doubts. Can I trust someone like you to be sincere?, Esp when your words need to be put to deeds...
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WE....the poor have learned to live poor,we have adapted,we know how tyo survive on nothing!
We will not help you, we will kick your fucking teeth out and beat the life out of you! we hate you and you will pay for everything you have ever said about us poor people!
ENJOY YOUR FUTURE ASSHOLES,YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU!

5a
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True. The hypocrites will have an esp hard time...
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Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of
heaven.

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after
righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the
children of God.

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’
sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute
you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for
my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward
in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were
before you.

Matthew 5:3-12
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A true calling for revolution from the ground up. Cant wait...
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These are God's true "Chosen People". Most work very hard, just scape by trying to make a living and never hurt anyone.

They are the forgotten, the unpopular, the outcasts, the ugly or the old.

They don't promote themselves. They don't brag. They don't talk much and when they do it is very humble and low key.

These people don't cheat others, have honor and respect their peers.

They may be a little dirty at times, may have a few teeth missing, but are as honest as the day is long. These are God's true Chosen People.

These are my heroes...
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To me, that is a dangerously romantic view, I've lived among these kinds of people, and they vary in their trustworthiness as much the rest of the population.

Personally, I'd rather live among Catholics, if I had to choose a group and if they lived all together somewhere, they have a strong moral code.
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When times get tough and you want to know who to trust, trust the poor, the hard working, the humble, the outcasts, the ugly.

Poor, hard working and humble will inherit the Earth one day, absolutely true.

However, being an "outcast" is rather presumptuous, an attitude of the middle classes looking through their myopic glass house. Being "ugly" is kind of ridiculous, again a materialistic assumption that one is ugly if not dressed right, groomed right, and so on. Basically, strip all that stuff off and we all have an equal endowment to beauty...
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Good post OP. thank you
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These are my heroes...
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And they are the same people you outcast, laughed at, ignored, did not give that job to, looked down at, etc, etc.

And now you are in the shit, you want them to forgive you so you can all band together and work as one?

And then what happens after the dust settles?

Do you go back to being the arrogant, rude, ignorant asshole you always were?
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You-re mixing up the hardworking humble crowd with the not-so humble crowd, ie the dishonest, the manipulative, the dangerous...

Some people have a hard time distinguishing the two, I guess===
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WE....the poor have learned to live poor,we have adapted,we know how tyo survive on nothing!
We will not help you, we will kick your fucking teeth out and beat the life out of you! we hate you and you will pay for everything you have ever said about us poor people!
ENJOY YOUR FUTURE ASSHOLES,YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU!

5a
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Wow! Speak for yourself! I think you are in the minority.
Obviously a very bitter person with no Spiritual Awakening happening to you yet.
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Being spiritual does not mean you have to be dumb and forgive everyone.

Forgive and forget.

Dont get sucked in by the same people who fucked you over in the first place. If you do that you are not awakened, you are just another level of ignorant.
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Thank you for the thread OP!

I believe your analysis here is right on.

For the people trying to argue.....discernment is the answer. If you learn how, you can watch people, listen to them and look into their eyes and discern who they truly are inside.

Thank you again for the reminder OP! God Bless you and your family in the times to come!

luvuthismuch

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DON'T BE SO SURE!
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I wondered how long it would take for the haters to show up...
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OP, it is not hate it is called realism and life experience. I know would be nice and easy for our brains to just apply a simple formula and voila... to know which people you can rely on, but usually it is not so simple. The life is not only black and white, there are innumerable nuances of grey.

So, there are poor people because of their bad habits and not because somebody oppressed them. Or there are uneducated people, who could be also bad. Or there are poor persons that could sell even their mother for a buck. So you cannot draw conclusions so quickly!

This you would know, OP-ie if you would have been around for longer, or if have been, at least to open your eyes!

These are my 2cents and not hating, I'm trying to expand your horizons..
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You are right in most of what you say, but not about poor people and their habits, eating is sometimes a need, not all poor people have bad habit, they just will not do the things they find against their honor, they would rather be poor, not taking a dime from anyone. It is really poor it is they don't have a lot of extra money and don't want as much as some others.

There are bad in all groups but the only one that can hurt more people with their action over a long period of time is
rich people or in the halls of power!

I know rich people you sure would not know it by their actions. They live very simply and down to earth, but they are multimillionaires.

There are good and bad in all walks of life, those you have to watch out for. Looks has nothing to do with character.

You wrote real well about it, thank you for your point of view.
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If I had alot of $$$, I'd have alot of bad habits. Seems to me the correlation is a positive one...
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I'll let you in on a little secret.

The mark of the beast will be the currency of Satan's government.

When the aliens invade, they are going to kill everyone with over $500,000 net worth. I am not kidding you.
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I disagree. Human nature is the same at all levels of society. There are good people at all levels and there are scum at all levels.
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Actually that is may message! I am NOT saying that all poor people are honest any more than all wealthy people are bad.

I am saying that you may be missing a very good opportunity to learn from those with less than you.

Of course use common sense!!! Of course be smart, BUT kindness does not mean you have to take any risks. Just smile at them, show that they have meaning. Talk to them.

You don't have to invite them home! In fact, I wouldn't!

Just don't overlook diamonds among the rubble.

That's all I am saying here.

Peace
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hugsWhat a lovely man you are. Can I offer you a month's sub..plus I have 26 "karma points", LOL! I'd like you to stick around and you my friend are worth it :D

You have to let me know though if that's what you would like.:)

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I'll let you in on a little secret.

The mark of the beast will be the currency of Satan's government.

When the aliens invade, they are going to kill everyone with over $500,000 net worth. I am not kidding you.
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I will explain the reason for this.

Satan's angels primary function is to distribute the money power to people they approve, so naturally, anyone with significant money must have been pre-approved by Satan's credit bureas.

So naturally, when Satan's government is overthrown, all the collaborators with SAtan will be all the rich people.
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DON'T BE SO SURE!
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I wondered how long it would take for the haters to show up...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38874043


OP, it is not hate it is called realism and life experience. I know would be nice and easy for our brains to just apply a simple formula and voila... to know which people you can rely on, but usually it is not so simple. The life is not only black and white, there are innumerable nuances of grey.

So, there are poor people because of their bad habits and not because somebody oppressed them. Or there are uneducated people, who could be also bad. Or there are poor persons that could sell even their mother for a buck. So you cannot draw conclusions so quickly!

This you would know, OP-ie if you would have been around for longer, or if have been, at least to open your eyes!

These are my 2cents and not hating, I'm trying to expand your horizons..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47805629


You are right in most of what you say, but not about poor people and their habits, eating is sometimes a need, not all poor people have bad habit, they just will not do the things they find against their honor, they would rather be poor, not taking a dime from anyone. It is really poor it is they don't have a lot of extra money and don't want as much as some others.

There are bad in all groups but the only one that can hurt more people with their action over a long period of time is
rich people or in the halls of power!


I know rich people you sure would not know it by their actions. They live very simply and down to earth, but they are multimillionaires.

There are good and bad in all walks of life, those you have to watch out for. Looks has nothing to do with character.

You wrote real well about it, thank you for your point of view.
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Well said!
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DON'T BE SO SURE!
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I wondered how long it would take for the haters to show up...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38874043


OP, it is not hate it is called realism and life experience. I know would be nice and easy for our brains to just apply a simple formula and voila... to know which people you can rely on, but usually it is not so simple. The life is not only black and white, there are innumerable nuances of grey.

So, there are poor people because of their bad habits and not because somebody oppressed them. Or there are uneducated people, who could be also bad. Or there are poor persons that could sell even their mother for a buck. So you cannot draw conclusions so quickly!

This you would know, OP-ie if you would have been around for longer, or if have been, at least to open your eyes!

These are my 2cents and not hating, I'm trying to expand your horizons..
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Many, not all, of those people with bad habits have those habits for a reason...and many of them wouldn't hurt a fly.
I'd rather be stuck in a cave w/ a drunk Johnny Cash over a politician any day.

I don't trust people, but I don't hold it against them.
Many people know not what they do...
But, the most dangerous ones do.
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The priests, preachers, gurus, masters and teachers write books, live in nice houses, desire wealth and screw their own followers. These people promote themselves at every turn.

While the poor, the unseen, the homeless, the shadow people may know the real truth.

Which do you listen to?
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Are you one or more of these? Maybe you're nice and trustworthy along with the others like this in your area, but I will in no way trust a majority of the extreme poor and the homeless. In my experiences...these people are like this from the choices they've made along the way. Are all of them like this? No...but just one example of trusting poor homeless strangers is Elizabeth Smart's father bringing in a homeless man to work on the family home's roof. He kidnapped Elizabeth and him AND his wife raped, tortured and mind f'ed her just because her father wanted to be the good samaritan. Talking to is one thing...but I'll never subject my family or myself to the possibility of people smiling in my face while figuring out what I may have that they want. I have poor meth heads next door to me that I wouldn't even turn loose on people I don't like. Just sayin...be careful AND make sure those that you believe to be trustworthy and "safe" actually are. And find those things out before you're inviting them into your home. Also...no...I'm not some rich guy worrying about someone making off with my Van Gogh.

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I usually listen to the older Dylan tunes, but this is one of his best from the 70s era.

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The priests, preachers, gurus, masters and teachers write books, live in nice houses, desire wealth and screw their own followers. These people promote themselves at every turn.

While the poor, the unseen, the homeless, the shadow people may know the real truth.

Which do you listen to?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38874043


Are you one or more of these? Maybe you're nice and trustworthy along with the others like this in your area, but I will in no way trust a majority of the extreme poor and the homeless. In my experiences...these people are like this from the choices they've made along the way. Are all of them like this? No...but just one example of trusting poor homeless strangers is Elizabeth Smart's father bringing in a homeless man to work on the family home's roof. He kidnapped Elizabeth and him AND his wife raped, tortured and mind f'ed her just because her father wanted to be the good samaritan. Talking to is one thing...but I'll never subject my family or myself to the possibility of people smiling in my face while figuring out what I may have that they want. I have poor meth heads next door to me that I wouldn't even turn loose on people I don't like. Just sayin...be careful AND make sure those that you believe to be trustworthy and "safe" actually are. And find those things out before you're inviting them into your home. Also...no...I'm not some rich guy worrying about someone making off with my Van Gogh.

johnny
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I didn't hear the OP say anything about being naive.
Or putting oneself in harm's way.

However I did hear him about being kind. About taking a closer look and offering some comfort to the ones overlooked while they're suffering mightily, as well as allowing yourself to be touched by simple beauty of soul.

Not about being a chump.
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WE....the poor have learned to live poor,we have adapted,we know how tyo survive on nothing!
We will not help you, we will kick your fucking teeth out and beat the life out of you! we hate you and you will pay for everything you have ever said about us poor people!
ENJOY YOUR FUTURE ASSHOLES,YOU HAVE IT COMING TO YOU!

5a
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Wow! Speak for yourself! I think you are in the minority.
Obviously a very bitter person with no Spiritual Awakening happening to you yet.
 Quoting: Goddess of the sea 1


Being spiritual does not mean you have to be dumb and forgive everyone.

Forgive and forget.

Dont get sucked in by the same people who fucked you over in the first place. If you do that you are not awakened, you are just another level of ignorant.
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Very true. Thank you friend. This is a weakness of mine. Thanks for reminding me.
I do try to forgive but not forget so that I do not leave myself open for more fucking over.





GLP