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Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?

 
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Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Is Fukushima an ELE ?

ELE=Extinction Level Event

If not, what do you see preventing it from being an ELE?

If yes, how long do we Northern Hemisphere folk have left ?

Thanks for all opinions !!!

hf
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Well, it was thought about Chernobyl as well, and it was waaaay worst than fukushima.
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Well, it was thought about Chernobyl as well, and it was waaaay worst than fukushima.
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This.
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Well, it was thought about Chernobyl as well, and it was waaaay worst than fukushima.
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C'mon people .. seriously Chernobyl worse than Fukushima !!

propoganda
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No!

Noty at this moment, 01.12am/ 06/17/14


Many People have the wrong Imagination and a strange Reality.
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Well, it was thought about Chernobyl as well, and it was waaaay worst than fukushima.
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C'mon people .. seriously Chernobyl worse than Fukushima !!

propoganda
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Yes, waaaaay worse.
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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Is Fukushima an ELE ?

ELE=Extinction Level Event

If not, what do you see preventing it from being an ELE?

If yes, how long do we Northern Hemisphere folk have left ?

Thanks for all opinions !!!

hf
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Yes..but a slow one...Your children will pay.
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there will never be a better source
than to speak your truth
or make your peace some other way.”
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Can I get some seriously minded non-trolls opinions please !!

I can't see how it is not an ELE ...

no practical solutions to this mess IMHO ...
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06/16/2014 12:21 PM
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2 more years is the estimation right now.
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Can I get some seriously minded non-trolls opinions please !!

I can't see how it is not an ELE ...

no practical solutions to this mess IMHO ...
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Articulate your open Questions in a better Way,
maybe someone is able to answer them!

To just ask "ELE?" is sooooooooo Glp-like at 03/11-21/2011
research and find

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06/16/2014 12:27 PM
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the transmission we picked up back in 1978 may well have been a warning of from a Fukushima like ELE. With Yellowstone or WWIII likely North America does not have long to go, maybe 50 years at most. That is why the rich are transfering all their funds and industries far overseas.


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I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did.

Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all..

As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more...
"Carpe Diem"
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I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did.

Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all..

As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more...
 Quoting: CanadaIn NIC


Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it.

Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it.
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Fukushima > Chernobyl

Anyone who thinks different, isn't paying attention.

Is it an ELE? Maybe. After a few generations we will see the mutations. It's all cumulative. How long till the next one? As they age and they use them at increased power while storing the spent fuel on site, it seems like the nuclear industry is making things even more dangerous intentionally.
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I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did.

Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all..

As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more...
 Quoting: CanadaIn NIC


Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it.

Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59321286


I know ... and the world's lack of effort to help makes me suspect that it truly is an ELE and there is not much that can be done before the mutations and cancers start rearing their ugly heads.
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It may be, if the efforts to contain it are what they have been historically over the more 3 years + it has been eventing.
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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Random people: rich, poor, young, old, NWO illuminati scum, and good,decent God fearing folk are going to die from this.

If you get a hot particle, you are dead. 10 days or ten years it will kill random people. Think of it as going outside at midnight on new years eve in an area where people shoot guns in the air. A bullet falls on somebodies head every year, and they die. Fukishima changed this from a few drunk assholes doing this to your town ... into a nations army all being ordered to fire everything they got into the air at midnight.

And it is not just direct bad luck ingestion. Consider tobacco. Native Americans smoked and chewed it for thousands of years without garenteed lung cancer.

But tobacco is a bio-accumulator of hot particles. so when the uranium and plutonium industries got going, started enriching with crude centrifuges, then all the above and below ground testing, followed by the transport and very loose containment of fuel for the thousands of shitty reactors designed by CORPORATIONS, subsidized and insured by the STATE -- who can generate infinite amounts of funding by sending out IRS agents with guns-- gareneteed the lowest quality implementation possible on the most dangerous and stupid thing the human race has ever failed miserably at.

Qui Bono? Royal families around the world, including american royalty like the Gates' own all major shares of the nuclear industry trade. Ever wonder why the british royals can afford palaces, gold covered carriages, polo and super cars as hobbies?

Fukishima is introducing these hot particles into the food you eat, water you drink and air you breathe. These are manmade particles, developed within the last 100 years. You have no evolutionary defenses against them. And their half life's are millions of years. Cemeteries will require lead caskets, and you will not want to keep ashes of your loved ones anywhere near your children. Those remains now need to be interned in nuclear waste dumps.

And for the tldr; crowd. Leading scientists say that at 7.0 or better earthquake anywhere near fukishima, anytime in the next 50 years, means japan will be uninhabitable, and the west coast of north america will need to be evacuated.

damned The GLP effect is a powerful thing. hf But I am not sure if we can turn off all the big earthquakes long enough for them to clean up fukishima and all the other ticking time bombs around the entire world.
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It may be, if the efforts to contain it are what they have been historically over the more 3 years + it has been eventing.
 Quoting: M1.618


I haven't seen any proposed solutions that give me any hope ... meanwhile the FUKUSHIMA site is just waiting for another EARTHQUAKE or HUMAN ERROR to finish the job.
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Well, it was thought about Chernobyl as well, and it was waaaay worst than fukushima.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


This.
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Thread: ALERT: Fukushima Worse Than Chernobyl – Now In Crisis

Thread: Tepco estimates total cesium-137 release from Fukushima at 360,000 terabecquerels — 4 times higher than Chernobyl’s 85,000 terabecquerels

Thread: Radio: Fukushima ranked Level 8 on newly developed nuclear scale, above Chernobyl (CHART)

Thread: omg!!!! upscaling to level 8 on INES scale for Fukushima. this is far beyond Chernobyl.
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Chernobyl - 1 melt down and fire

Fukushima - 3 melt downs, 1 core explosion, numerous fuel core fires

3:1 to fuku! Japs win
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I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did.

Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all..

As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more...
 Quoting: CanadaIn NIC


Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it.

Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59321286


There is no "Control" in Chernobyl, there was no Control ever!

Where do you think all this Fuel from Chernobyl is located,
how it is protected from the Environment and what do "They" (Who?)
doing with all this Stuff?

You are living in a Dreamworld when you think that Cherny-Boy
is in a better Situation than Daiichi!
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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Random people: rich, poor, young, old, NWO illuminati scum, and good,decent God fearing folk are going to die from this.

If you get a hot particle, you are dead. 10 days or ten years it will kill random people. Think of it as going outside at midnight on new years eve in an area where people shoot guns in the air. A bullet falls on somebodies head every year, and they die. Fukishima changed this from a few drunk assholes doing this to your town ... into a nations army all being ordered to fire everything they got into the air at midnight.

And it is not just direct bad luck ingestion. Consider tobacco. Native Americans smoked and chewed it for thousands of years without garenteed lung cancer.

But tobacco is a bio-accumulator of hot particles. so when the uranium and plutonium industries got going, started enriching with crude centrifuges, then all the above and below ground testing, followed by the transport and very loose containment of fuel for the thousands of shitty reactors designed by CORPORATIONS, subsidized and insured by the STATE -- who can generate infinite amounts of funding by sending out IRS agents with guns-- gareneteed the lowest quality implementation possible on the most dangerous and stupid thing the human race has ever failed miserably at.

Qui Bono? Royal families around the world, including american royalty like the Gates' own all major shares of the nuclear industry trade. Ever wonder why the british royals can afford palaces, gold covered carriages, polo and super cars as hobbies?

Fukishima is introducing these hot particles into the food you eat, water you drink and air you breathe. These are manmade particles, developed within the last 100 years. You have no evolutionary defenses against them. And their half life's are millions of years. Cemeteries will require lead caskets, and you will not want to keep ashes of your loved ones anywhere near your children. Those remains now need to be interned in nuclear waste dumps.

And for the tldr; crowd. Leading scientists say that at 7.0 or better earthquake anywhere near fukishima, anytime in the next 50 years, means japan will be uninhabitable, and the west coast of north america will need to be evacuated.

damned The GLP effect is a powerful thing. hf But I am not sure if we can turn off all the big earthquakes long enough for them to clean up fukishima and all the other ticking time bombs around the entire world.
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Thank-you for your honesty! We are all in this together, that's for sure !

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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Chernobyl - 1 melt down and fire

Fukushima - 3 melt downs, 1 core explosion, numerous fuel core fires

3:1 to fuku! Japs win
 Quoting: Davos


Chernobyl - one reactor not sitting directly on the siesmic ring of fire.

Japan - dozens of shitty built reactors siting on an island that was only formed above ground by the impact of two gigantic tectonic plates crashing into each other for millions of years.

Japs win by infinity.
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I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did.

Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all..

As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more...
 Quoting: CanadaIn NIC


Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it.

Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59321286


There is no "Control" in Chernobyl, there was no Control ever!

Where do you think all this Fuel from Chernobyl is located,
how it is protected from the Environment and what do "They" (Who?)
doing with all this Stuff?

You are living in a Dreamworld when you think that Cherny-Boy
is in a better Situation than Daiichi!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59271427


More or less Chernobyl is emitting as little radiation as possible in its sarcophagus ... Fuku in the otherhand is an out of control monster...

Don't confuse the subject.
wmMmw
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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Chernobyl - 1 melt down and fire

Fukushima - 3 melt downs, 1 core explosion, numerous fuel core fires

3:1 to fuku! Japs win
 Quoting: Davos


Chernobyl - one reactor not sitting directly on the siesmic ring of fire.

Japan - dozens of shitty built reactors siting on an island that was only formed above ground by the impact of two gigantic tectonic plates crashing into each other for millions of years.

Japs win by infinity.
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I think Fukishima has far more reaching results than Chernobyl did.

Chernobyl didn't see seafood and a major food source for the world contaminated after all..

As to release of material, not sure.. Chernobyl might have released more...
 Quoting: CanadaIn NIC


Thing about the Chernobyl meltdown was they actually tried to put it out and did finally get control over it.

Japan isn't doing shit and the rest of the world is ignoring it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59321286


There is no "Control" in Chernobyl, there was no Control ever!

Where do you think all this Fuel from Chernobyl is located,
how it is protected from the Environment and what do "They" (Who?)
doing with all this Stuff?

You are living in a Dreamworld when you think that Cherny-Boy
is in a better Situation than Daiichi!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59271427


More or less Chernobyl is emitting as little radiation as possible in its sarcophagus ... Fuku in the otherhand is an out of control monster...

Don't confuse the subject.
 Quoting: M1.618


Actually the Radiation in Chernobyl's Nr.4 is much, much higher
than in Daiichi,
Chernobyl is sitting on one of the biggest European Watertables
and the Groundwater is inside of the Plant, there is not even a Plan
or Money to dismantle the Plant!

You should say "Sayonara" to your Left-Wing Worldview
because it is Outdated, it was and is wrong& Stupid!

Do you never ask your self how do they (Who?) are cooling the rest of the Core?
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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Is Fukushima an ELE ?

ELE=Extinction Level Event

If not, what do you see preventing it from being an ELE?

If yes, how long do we Northern Hemisphere folk have left ?

Thanks for all opinions !!!

hf
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If no one acted, it would be an ELE.
It is fully out of control, as far as Tepco and the Japanese government are concerned.

However some people acted, John Hutchinson and his wife Nancy.

They build a ray-gun and put a transmutation signal on it.
That thing cleans their area, at least up till ten miles away. They are located on the West Coast of the USA.
My personal estimate was about 50 miles around them.

I was a member of their group for a while, until personnel differences made me leave. NOT because I thought it was a non-sense idea. We did however stop to communicate.

They were searching for a way to spread that signal to more locations. I think they have found it.

Recently I heard from a fully trusted source that they started shipping the first batches of transmitters.

So there is still hope for mankind.

The Hutchinson family and I still have our personnel differences. That does not stop me from telling you that you might want to aid their efforts in any useful way.

I DO hope they succeed and they deserve all the help they can get.

[link to www.life-ray.org]

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Re: Is FUKUSHIMA an ELE ?
Is Fukushima an ELE ?

ELE=Extinction Level Event

If not, what do you see preventing it from being an ELE?

If yes, how long do we Northern Hemisphere folk have left ?

Thanks for all opinions !!!

hf
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If no one acted, it would be an ELE.
It is fully out of control, as far as Tepco and the Japanese government are concerned.

However some people acted, John Hutchinson and his wife Nancy.

They build a ray-gun and put a transmutation signal on it.
That thing cleans their area, at least up till ten miles away. They are located on the West Coast of the USA.
My personal estimate was about 50 miles around them.

I was a member of their group for a while, until personnel differences made me leave. NOT because I thought it was a non-sense idea. We did however stop to communicate.

They were searching for a way to spread that signal to more locations. I think they have found it.

Recently I heard from a fully trusted source that they started shipping the first batches of transmitters.

So there is still hope for mankind.

The Hutchinson family and I still have our personnel differences. That does not stop me from telling you that you might want to aid their efforts in any useful way.

I DO hope they succeed and they deserve all the help they can get.

[link to www.life-ray.org]

bumpbumpbumpbumphf
 Quoting: grumpier


Thanks Grumpier, sorry about your differences with the Hutchinsons ... they are good people doing what they think is best .....

Thanks for the sliver of Hope !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Grumpier, sorry about your differences with the Hutchinsons ... they are good people doing what they think is best .....

Thanks for the sliver of Hope !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They are good people for sure.
They work hard for what they believe in.
That what they believe in, the possibility of transmutation through the application of signals, has been confirmed in several publications. It also coincides with my personnel experience.

If they win....WE WIN

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Thank-you for your honesty! We are all in this together, that's for sure !

smile_hear
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Of Course. I know who my savior is, and that none of us deserve this.

But for the people who pray to human secularist, dark high priests of "green energy" ... who believe so strongly in evolution and "science"... ask them what their scriptures say about this simple fact:

hillaryogrrrbillclinton1billgateskim

Fossil fuels have been burning on this planet for millions of years. We are not talking 1000 acre forest fires threatening their McMansions. We are talking Millions of ha at a time. There have been open veins of coal that burned for hundreds of years continuously. Natural Gas and Methane gas eruptions consuming hundreds of acres at various times. Asteroids hitting the planet covering the world in dust clouds. Ice ages and heat waves.

But as these things happened. Every species on the planet developed biological and technical defenses for these events. Over thousands of years. If you take your family camping and sit around a wood fire for an entire summer you will not die. If you put a live fish near that fire it will die instantly. It never had millions years of evolution to handle wood smoke in its gills. But if you don't put that fish near the fire, be very careful: it has evolved enough to survive out of water long enough to flip back into it within a few minutes.

Correspondingly, if you ingest one hot particle, from "green nuclear power" you are dead. Unless you are the tax man for carbon credits and can afford a nice suit ...
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I watched a vid. the other day of a Japanese scientist studying the effects on butterflies consuming Fuku food.

3rd generation of butterflies were showing bad abnormalities !!

What have we (as a species) gotten ourselves into ?





GLP