I've made a decision that is going to change my life and I hope the lives of others! I'll need all the strength I can muster.

Best of luck to you. I've never been hooked on anything like that but know several people who have. Some did it, however the majority couldn't kick the habit. The odds are against you but with the right people/influences around, I don't see why you won't be able to make it through.

That's great, just take it one day at a time and keep your eye on the ball. There are some good herbal remedies out there for pain that you could substitute with in the meantime. Who says you can do it in 3 steps?
Some decent herbal pain relief:
1. White Willow Bark
2. Boswellia
3. Ginger
4. Curcumin ***
5. Valerian (it does help w/pain and helps you sleep).

There are probably more, I just know these work (I've tried them). I use a combo myself for severe pain; doesn't take it away, but dulls it just as well as Ibuprofen (which tears up your liver).

Just saying, and good luck to you. I think your idea is fantastic! Please keep posting.

You can do it! Some know it alls will insist that you must do it a certain way and if you dont you will fail. They dont know you. Dont let the nay sayers distract you. Think positive. No matter how you decide to do it there will always be some jack ass telling you that you are doing it wrong and that you will fail. You made your decision to do it the way you want. Give it a chance.

What worked for me on my second attempt to quit was to tapper down very methodically. There is no way in hell I would substitute one drug for another. It may work for other people but I know it would not work for me.

I am clean for over a year now and like others have said, nothing would make me go back to using. Well.... maybe if an asteroid was going to destroy the earth I might have to go out with a bang ;)

I imagine that you dont remember what normal feels like given how long you have been on the drugs but for me it took over 6 months to feel normal again. The worst for me was over in 7 days. But then you have to deal with this malaise that lingers for a long time. Dont think you are out of the woods too soon. You will have good days and bad days even after the withdrawls are gone.

- Get rid of your stash if you have one
- Stay strong.
- Take hot baths.
- Treat your symptoms with over the counter meds.
- Try to sleep even if its not at night
- Think about how good it will feel to be FREE!
- Take vitamins
- Avoid fatty foods
- Eat dark berries
- Think positive
- Have sex

To you as well I just look forward to the day when my mind becomes as it once was like I said I have been many things and have done much more and I feel when I have conqered this I will be stronger than I was before!!

How to recognize opoid-induced hyperalgesia-Because, chances are, your pain management doctor can't:

[link to www.medscape.com]

Key symptoms offer important clues, Dr. Silverman said. Patients with opioid-induced hyperalgesia will develop an increased sensitization to pain that may be unlike their original pain.

"The first thing to understand is this is a diffuse, spreading kind of pain," he said. "Patients develop an acute insensitivity to pain even though they may be stable and functioning on their opiates."


Pain meds can cause pain. That's why people end up taking more and more of them.

Finding you blue would be a strain, I can see that. It worries me that they are building up in your system - your kidneys aren't functioning correctly if that's true. All I know is after 24 hours without I'm ready to put a gun to my head - that's how strong the addiction is for me. If you've made it past the first 4 days then you should start to feel better very soon. Keep on the straight and narrow and you'll get there!

Your words speak the truth and I appreciate that!!!!
I Thank you
Peace and Love
Guitarguy55

I wish you all the best! This is great to hear!

The best doctor for you is you! The modern doctor pushes drugs on us, many which mask one problem, while creating new ones -such as kidney, liver and heart disease.

This would be an excellent time for you to do a cleansing, to help flush/repair your organs, along with cleaning up your diet: that means, no additives, preservatives, GMOs...and switch to organics as best you can.

This will allow your body functions and immune system to concentrate on doing their job: to keep you healthy and heal you, rather than spend its resources fighting against and trying to remove toxins.

I wish more people understood what 'bad food' really means, or what it does to our bodies, including sugar!

I am healthy now, as opposed to in my thirties, with only an asthma inhaler needed when toxins in the air blow my way. Skin problems gone, digestive issues gone, joint problems non-existent, heart valve issues normalized.

A clean diet will allow your body to work FOR YOU, not AGAINST YOU.
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There's one more thing I'd like to offer, as an illustration:

My sister is Big Pharma's dream client. Last time I was at her house she pulled out a shoe-box of medicine vials, the top of each each marked the the initials of the drug, and one of the three family members in the household.

At this point her kidneys work at 30% each. Although it's hard to believe she said this, her urologist told her not to worry because together that makes 60%...which is an out and out lie. Problem is, this once-bright 140 IQ full four year scholarship winner has a brain turned much to mush due to all the drugs she's been legally prescribed through the decades, so she still trusts her doctors as if they were sent to her by the Good Lord himself.

Even with low kidney function, she continues to use prescribed and OTC drugs known to add to loss of kidney function.

Years back her joint meds made her heart valve problem worse; even knowing the risks, she wouldn't stop. Now she needs daily heart meds, has become narcoleptic, and uses a cane to walk. This is just a small review of her problems. Although she is younger than I, she's a mess, yet still believes her meds are a priceless life saver.

Her all-American diet is really a bad one, while her love-affair with artificial sweeteners are most likely the very cause of her debilitating migraines, and very possibly the tightening of her throat...which she occasionally goes to the doctor to have stretched. Arg!

Strange thing is, she thinks I'm nuts for going as organic as possible, and thinks my concerns about drugs and foods are irrational and probably some form of psychosis! She thinks that the extra-money I spend on good food would be better spent on things like obtaining health-care, which I don't have. Last year I spent $160 for two doctor's appointments to get scripts for asthma inhalers, and $360 on inhalers which would have cost less than $50 in Jamaica, where our parents live. This is stupefyingly less than even the monthly fee the HMO wants. So I've chosen healthier food...and still come out ahead.

I am not trying to say that ALL ills can be cured with diet, and that people should ditch all their meds.

But, I do believe people would be far healthier, and less dependent on drugs, if they studied what they have, what they are taking, how those drugs affect their bodies in other ways, while eating better food. This system is designed to make a good proportion of the population largely dependent on the system itself.

Sorry for the long message, but I am very passionate about this subject. I truly hopes it helps at least one person find a better way of living.

good luck OP! i'll pray for you!! God bless!

I am sorry that your sister is having such a hard time it breaks my heart I will try a change in diet along the way!!
I take your words of support to heart be strong for your sister and may the grace of God be with you always
Peace and much Love to you
Guitarguy55

Hugs

GG I ask the Lord to lift the pain from off you and you craving for the drug to disappear, you can be free of all of it now. May GOD hold you in his arms until you are free from harm.

I ask he keep Satan off you back, and lighten you load. GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU! Amen /ED

I hope it all goes your way op and that you have family support too:-)

Hot epsom baths could help and if you can drink it once even, it will help remove the meds from your system. It's absolutely vile though :-(

I wish you all the best. :-)

Thank you I have tasted Epsom salts and yes it is vile
But again I thank you for your continued support
God Bless
Peace and Love
Guitarguy55

Thank you much I do as you say
And I thank you
Godspeed
Guitarguy55

Thank you much I do as you say
And I thank you
Godspeed
Guitarguy55

thank you even though I have no stash I will take all your words to jheart
Thank you and muc peace and Love to you
Guitarguy55

Hey Gguy55!

...you've got my love and support, Brother...

...I'll always champion anyone who gets up off the canvas and keeps on going...

...and bless your heart for thinking of helping others, your life is going to be blessed beyond measure...hang on...it's gonna' be an awesome ride!...


Be Well

Good luck! You're in for a "hell" of a journey.

When you're clean and clear, try to get a medical marijuana card, if they're available where you live. Don't smoke it. Cold press the seeds for oil and/or vaporize. It will drastically improve all aspects of your life.

At least try some hemp products.

Last Edited by Lieutenant_Dan on 06/26/2014 05:39 PM

Thank you so very much!!! One can only talk aor type so long before you have to get up off your ass and actually go and do it that's what I am trying to do and I will post every day so that all can see and watch my journey!!

That's an interesting concept but I'll look into it
Thank you
Much Peace and Love to you
Guitarhuy55

I was on heavy allergy medications from the year I turned eighteen until I reached 34. I was cranky, prone to doze off, always tired, and as each year came by they always came up with something "new" to take. I could easily turn violent very quickly and on certain days the medication acted like I was going from Dr. Jekyll to Mr. Hyde. I took it out on family and friends, and at my job, where physical confrontations were common as a security figure.
At 34 I thought it over and figured if I continued to take this medication, I would suffer from something else down the road, like cancer or kidney failure. So I went "Cold Turkey".
The first year was bad, I suffered from high volumes of congestion, trouble breathing, and sneezing.
The second year was noticeably less.
By the third year I had no symptoms at all and it never returned. I am now almost 60.
Yes, make that decision! It will bring you back to being a productive individual and you can heal the wounds before it destroys your life and those of your family.

Good luck dude just keep playing guitar.

Accupuncture can help with severe pain...

that is what I am trying to do
Thanks for the words of support they mean much tome
Peace and Love
Guitarguy55

With only reading the first post, look into hemp oil that is now being sold as a supplement. I have been taking it and it is great for pain, among other things.

Me and my Strat and Taylor do talk to each other everyday
Thank you
Guitarguy55

God bless you my friend! I know you can do this!

I know that I always have you to look to for strength
I do cherish your friendship but there are reasons I have chose to do it this way!!! I know you would understand
and I e-mail you later about all of this

Good luck.