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Nicotine and Ebola, There may be something to it.

 
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A lot of you know that I am a nurse. 2 months ago, I get a call from a former employer, Barnes Jewish Hospital in St. Louis, asking if I'd like to come back to work there.

Seems they are having a hard time with staff after going nicotine-free. Now I don't mean no smoking on campus, what we are talking about here is they are drug screening for cotinine (nicotine). I don't smoke, but this means no smoking on your day off, no nicotine patch, no nicotine gum, nada.

In 2009, Barnes Hospital forced all the employees to take flu shots. Keep in mind, the CEO of Barnes is on the St. Louis Branch of the Federal Reserve, and we know how much concern those guys have regarding our well-being. Well, I quit because of the flu shot deal, now they say if I come back (no flu shot) they will reinstate my previous hours worked toward retirement. The recruiter sounded desperate.

Add to this the current efforts to get rid of e-cigarettes.Here's an article about how nicotine is used to make ZMAPP. [link to conservativebyte.com]

They have a statement on their web page that they won't hire anyone who uses nicotine, but this doesn't apply to their Illinois facilities, only Missouri. I'll post a smilie once it gets approved.


I may start smoking...
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I guess i will keep smoking my usual pack a day.
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The tptb have absolutely no interest in maintaining the health of the useless eaters so this huge anti-smoking campaign is bullshit. Nicotine interferes with flouride and other chemicals they're trying to poison us with. So it wouldn't surprise me in the least if nicotine is somehow antidote to ebola.
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I guess i will keep smoking my usual pack a day.
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Smoke um if ya got um....

im not quittin anytime soon!

TPTB have been pushing this non smoking shit for a reason and I took notice of this so they can kiss my ass...gotta be something good in that cig if they want us off of it so bad.
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Vape on!
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yes... smoking can cure ebola its true.

so can cocacola. pepsi can't. absolutely not...

i'm not invested in tobacco or coke, so you can trust me.
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Vape on!
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Hells yes. Vaping right now. :)
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They created Aids and Ebola in a Lad and released them as a Bio Weapon in the Mid seventies.

Take note of the photos of people infected with Ebola in Africa. Not ONE of them have a smoke in their hand.

The banksters who control ALL Politicians plan to rid the Earth of 6.66 Billion useless eaters.

90% of Lung cancers are in NON smokers as they are caused by nuclear testing over decades. How do they explain this to the sheep, simple, the 90% are caused by second hand smoke.

The Beast, bansketers, hate you. They have been responsible for every war in the last 300 years. The sheep get slaughtered and the beast makes heaps of bucks and gains ever more control.

The beast has known for a hundred years that Cannibus kills most cancers. Think of the suffering they have caused the sheep over the last hundred years by refusing to release this knowledge.

The banksters realize that the stupid ones are non smokers are those are their targets.
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I vape and smoke, I never would of thought I'd pick up the habbit.

I'm wise enough to realise this anti smoking shit is bullshit, they do not give a fuck about our health or us in general simply looking at Monsanto.

Where are the anti GMO, alcohol, pharmaceutical and fast food campaigns ?

Give me a fucking break.
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smoking since I was 15 years old. I'm in my middle 60's now and in better health than a lot of people I see in their 30's.

On no prescription medications and haven't been to a doctor in 25 years even though I have full medical coverage.

Many people I have known in the past are dead now and a lot of them died of cancer even though they never smoked a cigarette in their entire lives. Most of them were sheep and did everything the self proclaimed "experts" told them to do. so why are they 6 feet under and I'm still running around in better shape than when I was in my 20's?

My only thoughts are "I told you so". God gave you a brain and expects you to use it, never let anyone do your thinking for you. These "experts" are nothing more than pied pipers wanting you to follow them off a cliff to your death.


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seriously? you guys are all a bunch of morans. Sure...fucking smoke up! Cause if ebola doesn't kill you off then lung cancer will. Darwinism at it's finest. Idiots.
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seriously? you guys are all a bunch of morans. Sure...fucking smoke up! Cause if ebola doesn't kill you off then lung cancer will. Darwinism at it's finest. Idiots.
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Eat your cereal you fucking idiot.

You probably think you're enlightened and smart being on here.

No doubt cigarettes may cause health problems but nicotine in small doses may have positive effects on your mind.

But for the government flooding us with how bad smoking is it is a contradiction of everything they do.
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My parents chained smoked in a closed house with no ventilation . I am a nicotine based life form , my fathers sperm was probably loaded with nicotine and my mothers eggs as well .

I remember my first breath of fresh air when I was born and how hard it was on me until my parents rushed me home in the car with all the windows rolled up chain smoking and then holding my breath until they rushed me into the smoke filled chamber we called home , oh , the relief of it .

Over the years I learned to breath regular air but it was very painful . Fact is I spent to much time working in it and now I have emphysema from it , only a smoke every ten minutes or so gives me any relief from it at all .

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seriously? you guys are all a bunch of morans. Sure...fucking smoke up! Cause if ebola doesn't kill you off then lung cancer will. Darwinism at it's finest. Idiots.
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fool
smoking doesn't cause lung cancer
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I am pretty sure that they have only found that they can grow the vaccine faster because they have found a way to trick the plant into supplying the nutrients in the same way eggs would...just faster.
I am pretty sure it isn't the nicotine or any other part of the tobacco plant that was relevant- just it's ability to grow the medium quicker than any current method
at least that was the info they were talking about in the newspaper article about the Canadian company that was also working on it
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nicotine from Barnes Hospital web page
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I smoke... but I'm not to sure that the push to get everyone to quit is because there is something good. I'm going to guess that it's because of the health related costs when we're all on single payer.

Either way, smoke up.
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I am pretty sure that they have only found that they can grow the vaccine faster because they have found a way to trick the plant into supplying the nutrients in the same way eggs would...just faster.
I am pretty sure it isn't the nicotine or any other part of the tobacco plant that was relevant- just it's ability to grow the medium quicker than any current method
at least that was the info they were talking about in the newspaper article about the Canadian company that was also working on it
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that's ridiculous , it's like saying if we eat eggs we still need to get the flu shots. Everyone knows they produce the flu vaccine in eggs.


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Damn nazis. I would never work for the tightass bastards.
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A lot of you know that I am a nurse. 2 months ago, I get a call from a former employer, Barnes Jewish Hospital in St. Louis, asking if I'd like to come back to work there.

Seems they are having a hard time with staff after going nicotine-free. Now I don't mean no smoking on campus, what we are talking about here is they are drug screening for cotinine (nicotine). I don't smoke, but this means no smoking on your day off, no nicotine patch, no nicotine gum, nada.

In 2009, Barnes Hospital forced all the employees to take flu shots. Keep in mind, the CEO of Barnes is on the St. Louis Branch of the Federal Reserve, and we know how much concern those guys have regarding our well-being. Well, I quit because of the flu shot deal, now they say if I come back (no flu shot) they will reinstate my previous hours worked toward retirement. The recruiter sounded desperate.

Add to this the current efforts to get rid of e-cigarettes.Here's an article about how nicotine is used to make ZMAPP. [link to conservativebyte.com]

They have a statement on their web page that they won't hire anyone who uses nicotine, but this doesn't apply to their Illinois facilities, only Missouri. I'll post a smilie once it gets approved.


I may start smoking...
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Where is the link to Ebola in your post, as stated in the thread title?

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If you google seach nicotine and look enough you will find some studies in animal models that indicate nicotine is anti-inflammatory...that it has the potential to prevent "cytokine storm" by affecting the vagus nerve. Abruptly quiting nicotine can cause rebound inflammation just like how quiting other medications/drugs abruptly can have unintended affects. It seems it would be best to taper people off of nicotine if you are going to require them to quit. Not allowing patches or gum seems to go against proper medical care for treating the potentially inflammatory symptoms of abrupt nicotine withdrawl. I never understand why so called medical professionals "miss the mark" on these types of knee jerk decisions.
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This has to be a spoof thread. Otherwise, YOU ARE ALL FUCKING RETARDED!!
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seriously? you guys are all a bunch of morans. Sure...fucking smoke up! Cause if ebola doesn't kill you off then lung cancer will. Darwinism at it's finest. Idiots.
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Eat your cereal you fucking idiot.

You probably think you're enlightened and smart being on here.

No doubt cigarettes may cause health problems but nicotine in small doses may have positive effects on your mind.

But for the government flooding us with how bad smoking is it is a contradiction of everything they do.
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LOL actually I come here for laughs. When I'm on GLP I spend the majority of the time just shaking my head in disbelief at the sheer stupidity. I mean really...fucking SMOKING CIGARETTES as the cure for ebola...I think I've heard everything there is to hear in life now.
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This has to be a spoof thread. Otherwise, YOU ARE ALL FUCKING RETARDED!!
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Yeah, we must be retarded because unlike you we also believe that he U.S. does not fight wars in the middle east to promote democracy and freedom.


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If you google seach nicotine and look enough you will find some studies in animal models that indicate nicotine is anti-inflammatory...that it has the potential to prevent "cytokine storm" by affecting the vagus nerve. Abruptly quiting nicotine can cause rebound inflammation just like how quiting other medications/drugs abruptly can have unintended affects. It seems it would be best to taper people off of nicotine if you are going to require them to quit. Not allowing patches or gum seems to go against proper medical care for treating the potentially inflammatory symptoms of abrupt nicotine withdrawl. I never understand why so called medical professionals "miss the mark" on these types of knee jerk decisions.
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Here is a link to one study if you want to get knee deep into the potential physiological effects of nicotine...and no, I'm not talking about "smoking", I'm talking about just nicotine. If you want, just skip all the way down to the summary and perspective section at the end. It makes no claims either way but it does address nicotine as a molecule of interest for possible therapeutic value.

[link to www.smartscitech.com]
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If you google seach nicotine and look enough you will find some studies in animal models that indicate nicotine is anti-inflammatory...that it has the potential to prevent "cytokine storm" by affecting the vagus nerve. Abruptly quiting nicotine can cause rebound inflammation just like how quiting other medications/drugs abruptly can have unintended affects. It seems it would be best to taper people off of nicotine if you are going to require them to quit. Not allowing patches or gum seems to go against proper medical care for treating the potentially inflammatory symptoms of abrupt nicotine withdrawl. I never understand why so called medical professionals "miss the mark" on these types of knee jerk decisions.
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Here is a link to one study if you want to get knee deep into the potential physiological effects of nicotine...and no, I'm not talking about "smoking", I'm talking about just nicotine. If you want, just skip all the way down to the summary and perspective section at the end. It makes no claims either way but it does address nicotine as a molecule of interest for possible therapeutic value.

[link to www.smartscitech.com]
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Correction....this is a summary article...not a study...but they are out there for the curious minds.
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If you google seach nicotine and look enough you will find some studies in animal models that indicate nicotine is anti-inflammatory...that it has the potential to prevent "cytokine storm" by affecting the vagus nerve. Abruptly quiting nicotine can cause rebound inflammation just like how quiting other medications/drugs abruptly can have unintended affects. It seems it would be best to taper people off of nicotine if you are going to require them to quit. Not allowing patches or gum seems to go against proper medical care for treating the potentially inflammatory symptoms of abrupt nicotine withdrawl. I never understand why so called medical professionals "miss the mark" on these types of knee jerk decisions.
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Here is a link to one study if you want to get knee deep into the potential physiological effects of nicotine...and no, I'm not talking about "smoking", I'm talking about just nicotine. If you want, just skip all the way down to the summary and perspective section at the end. It makes no claims either way but it does address nicotine as a molecule of interest for possible therapeutic value.

[link to www.smartscitech.com]
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Correction....this is a summary article...not a study...but they are out there for the curious minds.
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Most people don't have the ability to have a curious mind. It has been brainwashed out of them. Hell, most don't even have the ability to think on their own.

They are sheep and look for others to think for them. That is why it is totally useless trying to discuss anything with them. The herd mentality is what will cause this nation's destruction.


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Nicotine is effective against coronavirus, which causes flu, colds, etc. There was a thread about this recently.
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If you google seach nicotine and look enough you will find some studies in animal models that indicate nicotine is anti-inflammatory...that it has the potential to prevent "cytokine storm" by affecting the vagus nerve. Abruptly quiting nicotine can cause rebound inflammation just like how quiting other medications/drugs abruptly can have unintended affects. It seems it would be best to taper people off of nicotine if you are going to require them to quit. Not allowing patches or gum seems to go against proper medical care for treating the potentially inflammatory symptoms of abrupt nicotine withdrawl. I never understand why so called medical professionals "miss the mark" on these types of knee jerk decisions.
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Here is a link to one study if you want to get knee deep into the potential physiological effects of nicotine...and no, I'm not talking about "smoking", I'm talking about just nicotine. If you want, just skip all the way down to the summary and perspective section at the end. It makes no claims either way but it does address nicotine as a molecule of interest for possible therapeutic value.

[link to www.smartscitech.com]
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Correction....this is a summary article...not a study...but they are out there for the curious minds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18747138

Most people don't have the ability to have a curious mind. It has been brainwashed out of them. Hell, most don't even have the ability to think on their own.

They are sheep and look for others to think for them. That is why it is totally useless trying to discuss anything with them. The herd mentality is what will cause this nation's destruction.


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Well, I suspect there are "lurkers" that just might find this topic to be interesting and just might check it out...you never know. I've always been interested in natural non-patentable molecules that just might have beneficial effects. Another one I have always found a bit fascinating is the sugar alcohol zylitol for its effects on the prevention of bacterial biofilm...most notably plaque formation. Heck, Trident even makes note of studies supporting this claim on the back of packs of gum that contain zylitol. It has also been investigated as a treatment for chronic wounds, such as in the case of persistent wounds in people with type 1 diabetes. Additionally, it is also used as a treatment for children with chronic ear infections...and it is just a dumb old sugar alcohol. I read too much...lol!
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Be funny if that was the only cure.
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