Can everyone really not see what is about to happen to America?

Your right on. Congress just stopped worrying about the debt because they knew that the collapse was coming..instead they did the complete opposite PRINTED MORE MONEY and gave away entitlements like candy..Its coming no doubt.

Care to add just why you think I'm dumb, anonymous coward?

Yep, all part of the plan.

Trillion dollar economies don't collapse they adjust.

just start separating America from its institutions.

it will help you.

We've had collapses before... what makes this so different? (I agree w you that one is coming, but would like to keep the conversation going)

They see it as the only way out of the gigantic hole they've dug themselves.

Oh, to be too big to fail. If you win, you keep the money. If you lose, you merely shake the screen clean like an Etch-a-Sketch and start over.

$18 trillion in debt; up 70% in past six years.

The massive preparation that our government has undertaken has convinced me that, by their actions, they believe this coming collapse will make all previous collapses look like a kindergarten picnic. The have militarized law enforcement and stockpiled enough supplies and ammunition to fight a decade long war. They have seized control of the media, green lighted legislation to strip the rights of anybody they deem a threat. This controlled takeover is reminiscent of the Nazi parties 1930's takeover of Germany.

Well, they do very much when the dollar collapses first.

The gooberment will just announce that they are printing red money instead of green money. Declare green money useless.



Economy is fixed.

The dollar won't collapse because the dollar is backed by the new coin of the realm technology and military might not the old coin of the realm petro dollar.

Like your line of thinking OP... actually it's more I'm concerned that you're right. Pinned it for you.

Yea, I agree. I don't things will end well when they can no longer hold it together.

OP is correct...

The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically.

So here's an interesting thought experiment. Everybody says the US goes to war to protect its oil supplies, but doesn't it really go to war to ensure the continuation of the petrodollar system?

The Iraq war provides a good example. Until November 2000, no OPEC country had dared to violate the US dollar-pricing rule, and while the US dollar remained the strongest currency in the world there was also little reason to challenge the system. But in late 2000, France and a few other EU members convinced Saddam Hussein to defy the petrodollar process and sell Iraq's oil for food in euros, not dollars. In the time between then and the March 2003 American invasion of Iraq, several other nations hinted at their interest in non-US dollar oil trading, including Russia, Iran, Indonesia, and even Venezuela. In April 2002, Iranian OPEC representative Javad Yarjani was invited to Spain by the EU to deliver a detailed analysis of how OPEC might at some point sell its oil to the EU for euros, not dollars.

This movement, founded in Iraq, was starting to threaten the dominance of the US dollar as the global reserve currency and petro currency. In March 2003, the US invaded Iraq, ending the oil-for-food program and its euro payment program.

There are many other historic examples of the US stepping in to halt a movement away from the petrodollar system, often in covert ways. In February 2011 Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), called for a new world currency to challenge the dominance of the US dollar. Three months later a maid at the Sofitel New York Hotel alleged that Strauss-Kahn sexually assaulted her. Strauss-Kahn was forced out of his role at the IMF within weeks; he has since been cleared of any wrongdoing.

War and insidious interventions of this sort may be costly, but the costs of not protecting the petrodollar system would be far higher. If euros, yen, renminbi, rubles, or for that matter straight gold, were generally accepted for oil, the US dollar would quickly become irrelevant, rendering the currency almost worthless. As the rest of the world realizes that there are other options besides the US dollar for global transactions, the US is facing a very significant – and very messy – transition in the global oil machine.

war time

The same thats already happened in south africa.....

Notice all the tanks that are showing up everywhere ? Like Ferguson and buffalo for the snow and all over the highways. Remember what NWO dirt bag Kissinger said? That life should be so miserable that America wilk beg for the army to show up? Look at how Obama and holder are trying to incite rioting? Look at how black kids just beat a white man to death with a hammer? That's just the beginning. This is the last Christmas America will have before martial law. OP is right. Wakeup and get right with Jesus Christ. You won't get a second chance if you die without Him.

Quintillion dollar soon enough.

1. When will this supposedly start?

2. How will it supposedly start?

3. What should we do to prepare if ever this actually were to happen?

You are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, many people will fail to believe or acknowledge the truth until it hits them in the face.

Just a matter of when at this point. I expect more riots next summer. Location will be everything....

The NWO plan (and they haven't tried too hard to hide it) is to destroy middle classes in all white nations and particularly, transform the USA (the last bastion of a powerfully-armed citizenry) to Turd World Hellhole status by importing millions of diseased and criminal illegals and setting them against the whites.

All this under brutal Martial Law, of course, utilizing multi-ethnic UN troops, and maybe Chinese and Russian troops too.

Implosion time, the Pheonix will rise from the ashes time, order from Chaos time! civil war time, race war time. Hunting liberals with dogs time!

They closed all the gun stores in and around Ferguson. Get what you need now while its still available.

I need 7 more months.

I'm hoping that the big... "adjustment" doesn't come until fall of 2015.

By then I will be secure as I can be in my new home on my land. All nice and paid for. And with solar power, well, garden...

The Big Adjustment just needs to hold off for a bit.

National debt increases 70% under Otard. 18...trillion...that's not billion boys n girls

Good.
Karma time.