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Birth Certificate Estate-Two Birthdates Exposed!!!

 
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Public law 73-10 1933/34 public policy is the policy supporting discharge dollar for dollar via endorcement of "bills".

It is not anyones theory and it is not payment, it is discharge, and only moves the debt claim around, however, when a demand for redemption in lawful money, the "bill" is then actually REDEEMED and cannot be negotiable and must be removed from the National Debt.

agian, money is the ROOT cause of all evil and knowing how to demand redemption of bills is vital.
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thx Levi

you will like the data dump i mentioned earlier.

KW, from what i gather so far, uses that angle youve just mentioned. (slavery basically)

gets into trouble with the gov intentionally (not hard to do these days) and then he says that name is not his but he uses it by necessity.

effectively he is putting the burden of proof onto them to prove he is that name.

im still reviewing all this so this is just what i comprehend of it so far so bear with me.

he then uses the declaratory judgment act to force the judge to rule on what is the mans rights duties and obligations relating to the BC.

judge has to make a decree and he gets that in writing.

he says it ends up being one of three things (the BC)

a state agency, an estate, or a trust.

in KWs case the judge decreed he was operating an agency but in other cases he says they have decreed that it was a trust or an estate.

seems it can only be one of the three and from there the man has more options. he can resign and get a new name decreed or he can use the decree to then force them to pay the man for operating the agency.


thats the gist of it anyway. well worth looking into IMO and by far the best "solution" to this mess that I have come across.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


bump back on topic
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


imo, and from what i have heard, trying to not lay claim to the name is a slippery slope...

in the past, i was charged with a minor criminal offence, that could have put me in jail, as it was $2,000 and/or 6 months in jail... at the time i was just learning, and decided to do the afv route... when i was served with the summons at my home, i immediately took both copies, signed them, marked accepted for value, and gave one copy back to the serving officer...

i did this on a whim with very little knowledge, however the issue completely disappeared...

in hindsight, now that i have much more knowledge, i can explain what occurred...

when a summons is issued on a criminal charge, they are drawing on public credit to bring on the charge, and when it does not have a value attached, it is open ended, and assessed by the court system... when afv is put on it with your signature, you are applying your private credit which is also open ended and equals the public... It is important that both copies of the summons is signed, as the two copies indicate the debt has been divided, and you need to settle both sides...

in the case of a ticket with a dollar figure attached, and note - the dollar figure is always whole with no fractions, you have to pay the ticket,,, I would advise you pay that ticket by going to the bank and have a money order drawn for the amount, as a cheque only creates a discharge as it is still public debt and will remain on your financial record...using your private credit, which a money order will be is payment in fact...
 Quoting: william 72099580


Excellent work and results! That is faith in action! I too have used and contintue to discharge bills via endorsement and return (in some cases for 30,000 "$" and in every single event, it was never an issue with the process!

thanks for your other post as well, Canada issued silver and gold coins issued for public use before, are such coins still being issued to the public?
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not actual gold and silver...

our one dollar coin which only came in to effect about 15 years ago is gold coloured... about 5 years ago, a two dollar coin was added, it is silver coloured with gold in the centre... we have also removed the penney, and everything when paying with cash is rounded to the nickel...

but, it only applies to cash payments, debit and cheque still includes the penny...
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thx Levi

you will like the data dump i mentioned earlier.

KW, from what i gather so far, uses that angle youve just mentioned. (slavery basically)

gets into trouble with the gov intentionally (not hard to do these days) and then he says that name is not his but he uses it by necessity.

effectively he is putting the burden of proof onto them to prove he is that name.

im still reviewing all this so this is just what i comprehend of it so far so bear with me.

he then uses the declaratory judgment act to force the judge to rule on what is the mans rights duties and obligations relating to the BC.

judge has to make a decree and he gets that in writing.

he says it ends up being one of three things (the BC)

a state agency, an estate, or a trust.

in KWs case the judge decreed he was operating an agency but in other cases he says they have decreed that it was a trust or an estate.

seems it can only be one of the three and from there the man has more options. he can resign and get a new name decreed or he can use the decree to then force them to pay the man for operating the agency.


thats the gist of it anyway. well worth looking into IMO and by far the best "solution" to this mess that I have come across.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


Birth Certificates and exactly what they are in relation to people is the topic here.

please avoid discussing anything else. there plenty of topics for lawful money if you want to get lost in that BS for a while.

dont let the troll suck you in.
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i like your thinking...

a new system is badly needed, as the only one's who benefit from the current system are those who belong to the club...

in the meantime, we have to use the current system to the best of our abilities, as we continue to hone and perfect our knowledge...
 Quoting: william 72099580

Redemption from the debt system is spelled out clearly in title 12 AND the Canadian banking acts.

Knowledge without meaningful results is useless, unless you just want to be the most educated buy in debtors prison. I will take self governance any day.
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yes, it is spelled out clearly in wording, and there is redemption... but no where in these acts are you going to find the gap percentage that has to be added in order to bring about redemption... there has to be a reserve put up that started the fractioning to begin with...

the canadian bills of exchange act clearly states the flow; the bill, payment converts to a note, and the statement gives rise to the note... you see, rise has been given when you get your bank statement, which means the notes are ready for redemption, but no where is it indicated - the reserve requirement...
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just hearsay, but its interesting
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yes, i read the posts, and it is interesting...

the financial system has undergone major changes since the year 2000, and i believe a maturing has occurred that is bringing private credit up the surface, where is no longer necessary to apply for credit...

the lawful money demand may be the conversion to private credit, which, like most insurance here in canada, is not taxable...

but, i think there is much more that can be done with the private credit, then simply eliminating income tax... I believe over the years we have built up a great deal of private credit that is waiting to be redeemed...

getting the reserve requirement right, is i believe the key...
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thx Levi

you will like the data dump i mentioned earlier.

KW, from what i gather so far, uses that angle youve just mentioned. (slavery basically)

gets into trouble with the gov intentionally (not hard to do these days) and then he says that name is not his but he uses it by necessity.

effectively he is putting the burden of proof onto them to prove he is that name.

im still reviewing all this so this is just what i comprehend of it so far so bear with me.

he then uses the declaratory judgment act to force the judge to rule on what is the mans rights duties and obligations relating to the BC.

judge has to make a decree and he gets that in writing.

he says it ends up being one of three things (the BC)

a state agency, an estate, or a trust.

in KWs case the judge decreed he was operating an agency but in other cases he says they have decreed that it was a trust or an estate.

seems it can only be one of the three and from there the man has more options. he can resign and get a new name decreed or he can use the decree to then force them to pay the man for operating the agency.


thats the gist of it anyway. well worth looking into IMO and by far the best "solution" to this mess that I have come across.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


Birth Certificates and exactly what they are in relation to people is the topic here.

please avoid discussing anything else. there plenty of topics for lawful money if you want to get lost in that BS for a while.

dont let the troll suck you in.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


bc's, and lawful money are very much related, and should be talked about in unison to grasp the nature of the system we find ourselves in...
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bc's, and lawful money are very much related.

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then explain how that is (prove your claim)

that would be on topic. otherwise, off topic.
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thx Levi

you will like the data dump i mentioned earlier.

KW, from what i gather so far, uses that angle youve just mentioned. (slavery basically)

gets into trouble with the gov intentionally (not hard to do these days) and then he says that name is not his but he uses it by necessity.

effectively he is putting the burden of proof onto them to prove he is that name.

im still reviewing all this so this is just what i comprehend of it so far so bear with me.

he then uses the declaratory judgment act to force the judge to rule on what is the mans rights duties and obligations relating to the BC.

judge has to make a decree and he gets that in writing.

he says it ends up being one of three things (the BC)

a state agency, an estate, or a trust.

in KWs case the judge decreed he was operating an agency but in other cases he says they have decreed that it was a trust or an estate.

seems it can only be one of the three and from there the man has more options. he can resign and get a new name decreed or he can use the decree to then force them to pay the man for operating the agency.


thats the gist of it anyway. well worth looking into IMO and by far the best "solution" to this mess that I have come across.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


Birth Certificates and exactly what they are in relation to people is the topic here.

please avoid discussing anything else. there plenty of topics for lawful money if you want to get lost in that BS for a while.

dont let the troll suck you in.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


fuck off cunt, this is not your thread.
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bc's, and lawful money are very much related.

 Quoting: william 72099580


then explain how that is (prove your claim)

that would be on topic. otherwise, off topic.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


you have got to be the stupidest of the stupid.

The connection between COLB and fiat currency is right on the COLB being printed by "Bank Note" companies.

The fiat currency connection to ALL the voluntary servitude to the national debts has been more than established, you are just too stupid to see it.

again you are not the boss or the moderator of this thread so STFU already, you have not even contributed ONE meaningful post here.
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bc's, and lawful money are very much related.

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then explain how that is (prove your claim)

that would be on topic. otherwise, off topic.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


not proof, opinion...

but, it is well thought out opinion...

the colb and bc, are two lines given to you upon birth...the bc is the item that enables you to go in to the public, contribute to the public, exchange with the public for private credit that accumulates to your colb...

the colb is an eternal document where what your ancestors have accumulated and not used has passed to you, and i am talking about financial credits that have been accumulating for 2000 years...

wouldn't you like to get your hands on some of it?

the bc and lawful money are very much related...
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thx Levi

you will like the data dump i mentioned earlier.

KW, from what i gather so far, uses that angle youve just mentioned. (slavery basically)

gets into trouble with the gov intentionally (not hard to do these days) and then he says that name is not his but he uses it by necessity.

effectively he is putting the burden of proof onto them to prove he is that name.

im still reviewing all this so this is just what i comprehend of it so far so bear with me.

he then uses the declaratory judgment act to force the judge to rule on what is the mans rights duties and obligations relating to the BC.

judge has to make a decree and he gets that in writing.

he says it ends up being one of three things (the BC)

a state agency, an estate, or a trust.

in KWs case the judge decreed he was operating an agency but in other cases he says they have decreed that it was a trust or an estate.

seems it can only be one of the three and from there the man has more options. he can resign and get a new name decreed or he can use the decree to then force them to pay the man for operating the agency.


thats the gist of it anyway. well worth looking into IMO and by far the best "solution" to this mess that I have come across.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


Birth Certificates and exactly what they are in relation to people is the topic here.

please avoid discussing anything else. there plenty of topics for lawful money if you want to get lost in that BS for a while.

dont let the troll suck you in.
 Quoting: fellow man 29203778


bc's, and lawful money are very much related, and should be talked about in unison to grasp the nature of the system we find ourselves in...
 Quoting: william 72099580


Thank you william, the thread idiot refuses to admit that.

title 12 USC is the "trading with the enemy act" and endorsement of the FED is 100% an act of war on the Republic.

Emergency powers acts, color of law statutes, bankruptcy of the District Of Columbia, the Organic Constitution Act of 1871, the New Deal and the spread of Federal Jurisdiction via "interstate commerce" and ALL floating currency (fiat, maritime tenders) are all related and directly to the BC and creation of the legis persona.
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The "government" of the District of Columbia.

The Birth Certificate IS a financial instrument, of that there is little to debate.

Who or what benefits from that Certificate is up for debate, but in reality, it is not that important for a Competent adult as there is nothing there to claim that is not endowed by my Creator (even if my creator was nothing more or less than a man and a woman in congress together).
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bump back on topic
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imo, and from what i have heard, trying to not lay claim to the name is a slippery slope...

in the past, i was charged with a minor criminal offence, that could have put me in jail, as it was $2,000 and/or 6 months in jail... at the time i was just learning, and decided to do the afv route... when i was served with the summons at my home, i immediately took both copies, signed them, marked accepted for value, and gave one copy back to the serving officer...

i did this on a whim with very little knowledge, however the issue completely disappeared...

in hindsight, now that i have much more knowledge, i can explain what occurred...

when a summons is issued on a criminal charge, they are drawing on public credit to bring on the charge, and when it does not have a value attached, it is open ended, and assessed by the court system... when afv is put on it with your signature, you are applying your private credit which is also open ended and equals the public... It is important that both copies of the summons is signed, as the two copies indicate the debt has been divided, and you need to settle both sides...

in the case of a ticket with a dollar figure attached, and note - the dollar figure is always whole with no fractions, you have to pay the ticket,,, I would advise you pay that ticket by going to the bank and have a money order drawn for the amount, as a cheque only creates a discharge as it is still public debt and will remain on your financial record...using your private credit, which a money order will be is payment in fact...
 Quoting: william 72099580


Excellent work and results! That is faith in action! I too have used and contintue to discharge bills via endorsement and return (in some cases for 30,000 "$" and in every single event, it was never an issue with the process!

thanks for your other post as well, Canada issued silver and gold coins issued for public use before, are such coins still being issued to the public?
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not actual gold and silver...

our one dollar coin which only came in to effect about 15 years ago is gold coloured... about 5 years ago, a two dollar coin was added, it is silver coloured with gold in the centre... we have also removed the penney, and everything when paying with cash is rounded to the nickel...

but, it only applies to cash payments, debit and cheque still includes the penny...
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Thanks for that.

Was william on the "end the fed" thread? I seem to remember someone from Canada bringing up a check being a warrant or dividend in Canada, I could be mistaken about that.

I do strike out the "the order of" on all checks written to my corporation (which exists for the sole purpose of redeeming lawful money of the united States) and without endorsement of any kind other than demand for redemption and refusal of FRNS in any form. Even with checks written for thousands of "dollars" there have been no issues with the banks.
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Legal Title is always in Capital letters as this JOHN DOE was born at the 3 moth 7 day of 1960 at 10:32 AM

Parents MARTHA BURUS STEVENSON maiden name, Father CORY STEVENSON city CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA Place of birth CRAZYHORSE HOSPITAL IN CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA doctor of record at birth REDMAN CRAZYHOUSE MD date filed 3 month the 8 day of1960

This is just how they do titles have you ever sign a loan and it said sign as above, it is always in title, that is not you, not that title, you sign as I have in upper and lower case so why pay if the title is not you, but you do because you borrowed it, but you can go bankrupt and it not you, it gone.

That is how bad the legal system, they have messed it up. The birth certificate had to do with proof of citizenship nothing else. My mother nor my father had a birth certificate they did not need one, she was born in Texas before Texas ask or made you record births, dad mom just never recorded his birth, but that did not stop him from servicing in the military or any thing else.


But really the REDMAN CRAZYHORSE would be a title of something not you, have you written a book with your name on it, or started a corporation with your name on it. No, as a citizen of this country my birth certificate does not have capital this is more recent for what I have no idea, my children's nor my husband with foot prints. It is a debt gimmick, but you as a citizen are not the capital letter in any shape or form unless you write a book about yourself.

As TRUMP is a title and he owns it they use it they pay him for the use. If you claim the capital name as he did with the art of the deal. Think about it, does not need to be long.
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imo, and from what i have heard, trying to not lay claim to the name is a slippery slope...

in the past, i was charged with a minor criminal offence, that could have put me in jail, as it was $2,000 and/or 6 months in jail... at the time i was just learning, and decided to do the afv route... when i was served with the summons at my home, i immediately took both copies, signed them, marked accepted for value, and gave one copy back to the serving officer...

i did this on a whim with very little knowledge, however the issue completely disappeared...

in hindsight, now that i have much more knowledge, i can explain what occurred...

when a summons is issued on a criminal charge, they are drawing on public credit to bring on the charge, and when it does not have a value attached, it is open ended, and assessed by the court system... when afv is put on it with your signature, you are applying your private credit which is also open ended and equals the public... It is important that both copies of the summons is signed, as the two copies indicate the debt has been divided, and you need to settle both sides...

in the case of a ticket with a dollar figure attached, and note - the dollar figure is always whole with no fractions, you have to pay the ticket,,, I would advise you pay that ticket by going to the bank and have a money order drawn for the amount, as a cheque only creates a discharge as it is still public debt and will remain on your financial record...using your private credit, which a money order will be is payment in fact...
 Quoting: william 72099580


Excellent work and results! That is faith in action! I too have used and contintue to discharge bills via endorsement and return (in some cases for 30,000 "$" and in every single event, it was never an issue with the process!

thanks for your other post as well, Canada issued silver and gold coins issued for public use before, are such coins still being issued to the public?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


not actual gold and silver...

our one dollar coin which only came in to effect about 15 years ago is gold coloured... about 5 years ago, a two dollar coin was added, it is silver coloured with gold in the centre... we have also removed the penney, and everything when paying with cash is rounded to the nickel...

but, it only applies to cash payments, debit and cheque still includes the penny...
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Thanks for that.

Was william on the "end the fed" thread? I seem to remember someone from Canada bringing up a check being a warrant or dividend in Canada, I could be mistaken about that.

I do strike out the "the order of" on all checks written to my corporation (which exists for the sole purpose of redeeming lawful money of the united States) and without endorsement of any kind other than demand for redemption and refusal of FRNS in any form. Even with checks written for thousands of "dollars" there have been no issues with the banks.
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yes, i was on that thread for a bit...

but, i didn;t know as much as i do now...

the canadian bills of exchange act clearly states; a crossed check is a warrant for payment of a dividend...a crossed check is what you give for payment, service, goods, tax, etc.

if you look at the layout of a check; your name top left, your signature line bottom right, date top right, bank bottom left...a check with pay to the order of, is an order for the person or company named to pay...

the offer has to come from a corporation as they are holding the public credit, and you want to draw it you...so it is pay to the order of...now draw an X on your cheque, and you will see, you are drawing body to body (left to right) the date of the transaction is drawn to the bank (right to left) and they make a note of it...

at this point it is an executed contract, but with the bank making note of it, it is given rise when you get the statement...

executed means death; this is due to the added value (retail) not insured and accounted for yet...this happens when the fdic applies insurance... but, it cannot be redeemed yet until the reserve requirement is applied, and i believe that is what income tax is about...however, due to changing situation in financial world, it may be applied directly at the bank through the savings portion of your account...
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Legal Title is always in Capital letters as this JOHN DOE was born at the 3 moth 7 day of 1960 at 10:32 AM

Parents MARTHA BURUS STEVENSON maiden name, Father CORY STEVENSON city CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA Place of birth CRAZYHORSE HOSPITAL IN CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA doctor of record at birth REDMAN CRAZYHOUSE MD date filed 3 month the 8 day of1960

This is just how they do titles have you ever sign a loan and it said sign as above, it is always in title, that is not you, not that title, you sign as I have in upper and lower case so why pay if the title is not you, but you do because you borrowed it, but you can go bankrupt and it not you, it gone.

That is how bad the legal system, they have messed it up. The birth certificate had to do with proof of citizenship nothing else. My mother nor my father had a birth certificate they did not need one, she was born in Texas before Texas ask or made you record births, dad mom just never recorded his birth, but that did not stop him from servicing in the military or any thing else.


But really the REDMAN CRAZYHORSE would be a title of something not you, have you written a book with your name on it, or started a corporation with your name on it. No, as a citizen of this country my birth certificate does not have capital this is more recent for what I have no idea, my children's nor my husband with foot prints. It is a debt gimmick, but you as a citizen are not the capital letter in any shape or form unless you write a book about yourself.

As TRUMP is a title and he owns it they use it they pay him for the use. If you claim the capital name as he did with the art of the deal. Think about it, does not need to be long.
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Great write up! Agreed on all points.
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Legal Title is always in Capital letters as this JOHN DOE was born at the 3 moth 7 day of 1960 at 10:32 AM

Parents MARTHA BURUS STEVENSON maiden name, Father CORY STEVENSON city CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA Place of birth CRAZYHORSE HOSPITAL IN CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA doctor of record at birth REDMAN CRAZYHOUSE MD date filed 3 month the 8 day of1960

This is just how they do titles have you ever sign a loan and it said sign as above, it is always in title, that is not you, not that title, you sign as I have in upper and lower case so why pay if the title is not you, but you do because you borrowed it, but you can go bankrupt and it not you, it gone.

That is how bad the legal system, they have messed it up. The birth certificate had to do with proof of citizenship nothing else. My mother nor my father had a birth certificate they did not need one, she was born in Texas before Texas ask or made you record births, dad mom just never recorded his birth, but that did not stop him from servicing in the military or any thing else.


But really the REDMAN CRAZYHORSE would be a title of something not you, have you written a book with your name on it, or started a corporation with your name on it. No, as a citizen of this country my birth certificate does not have capital this is more recent for what I have no idea, my children's nor my husband with foot prints. It is a debt gimmick, but you as a citizen are not the capital letter in any shape or form unless you write a book about yourself.

As TRUMP is a title and he owns it they use it they pay him for the use. If you claim the capital name as he did with the art of the deal. Think about it, does not need to be long.
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this is because you have to draw from the CAPITAL (public funds) to bring it in to your private...

all corporations are capitalized and this includes your bc, and colb...
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AC0469. I know twonpeople hat have gone through the process of redeeming lawful money and do not pay federal taxes. So I know you are telling the truth and I trust what you are saying.

With that being said, Earlier in the thread you mentioned a mortgage and the UCC. How is that done? I have only seen the UCC used to get back taxes. How does it help with the mortgage?
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Excellent work and results! That is faith in action! I too have used and contintue to discharge bills via endorsement and return (in some cases for 30,000 "$" and in every single event, it was never an issue with the process!

thanks for your other post as well, Canada issued silver and gold coins issued for public use before, are such coins still being issued to the public?
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not actual gold and silver...

our one dollar coin which only came in to effect about 15 years ago is gold coloured... about 5 years ago, a two dollar coin was added, it is silver coloured with gold in the centre... we have also removed the penney, and everything when paying with cash is rounded to the nickel...

but, it only applies to cash payments, debit and cheque still includes the penny...
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Thanks for that.

Was william on the "end the fed" thread? I seem to remember someone from Canada bringing up a check being a warrant or dividend in Canada, I could be mistaken about that.

I do strike out the "the order of" on all checks written to my corporation (which exists for the sole purpose of redeeming lawful money of the united States) and without endorsement of any kind other than demand for redemption and refusal of FRNS in any form. Even with checks written for thousands of "dollars" there have been no issues with the banks.
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yes, i was on that thread for a bit...

but, i didn;t know as much as i do now...

the canadian bills of exchange act clearly states; a crossed check is a warrant for payment of a dividend...a crossed check is what you give for payment, service, goods, tax, etc.

if you look at the layout of a check; your name top left, your signature line bottom right, date top right, bank bottom left...a check with pay to the order of, is an order for the person or company named to pay...

the offer has to come from a corporation as they are holding the public credit, and you want to draw it you...so it is pay to the order of...now draw an X on your cheque, and you will see, you are drawing body to body (left to right) the date of the transaction is drawn to the bank (right to left) and they make a note of it...

at this point it is an executed contract, but with the bank making note of it, it is given rise when you get the statement...

executed means death; this is due to the added value (retail) not insured and accounted for yet...this happens when the fdic applies insurance... but, it cannot be redeemed yet until the reserve requirement is applied, and i believe that is what income tax is about...however, due to changing situation in financial world, it may be applied directly at the bank through the savings portion of your account...
 Quoting: william 72099580


So banks act as the transfer agent of debt from the signer and the Corporations?

It has long been my assertion that Governments allow you and I (or anyone) to act as 'the' 'people' when it comes to signing of financial documents and without proper restriction of said "endorsements" the contract 'executes' the living man or woman and they assume that amount of debt onto their 'person' and removing the obligation to "pay" off the Government, off the Bank and off the Corporations and creating a "taxable event" for the person, does that match up with your findings?

Strangely enough, I was just talking to another about your posts in the other thread and your ideas about checks etc. Curious synchronicity we 'meet up' again here!
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Legal Title is always in Capital letters as this JOHN DOE was born at the 3 moth 7 day of 1960 at 10:32 AM

Parents MARTHA BURUS STEVENSON maiden name, Father CORY STEVENSON city CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA Place of birth CRAZYHORSE HOSPITAL IN CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA doctor of record at birth REDMAN CRAZYHOUSE MD date filed 3 month the 8 day of1960

This is just how they do titles have you ever sign a loan and it said sign as above, it is always in title, that is not you, not that title, you sign as I have in upper and lower case so why pay if the title is not you, but you do because you borrowed it, but you can go bankrupt and it not you, it gone.

That is how bad the legal system, they have messed it up. The birth certificate had to do with proof of citizenship nothing else. My mother nor my father had a birth certificate they did not need one, she was born in Texas before Texas ask or made you record births, dad mom just never recorded his birth, but that did not stop him from servicing in the military or any thing else.


But really the REDMAN CRAZYHORSE would be a title of something not you, have you written a book with your name on it, or started a corporation with your name on it. No, as a citizen of this country my birth certificate does not have capital this is more recent for what I have no idea, my children's nor my husband with foot prints. It is a debt gimmick, but you as a citizen are not the capital letter in any shape or form unless you write a book about yourself.

As TRUMP is a title and he owns it they use it they pay him for the use. If you claim the capital name as he did with the art of the deal. Think about it, does not need to be long.
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this is because you have to draw from the CAPITAL (public funds) to bring it in to your private...

all corporations are capitalized and this includes your bc, and colb...
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and tombstones! I just read today one persons assertion that the BC (with the FEET prints) are actually stored at the State CAPITOL building. Don't know if that is true or not, if it is, I bet they are in the basement under ground level...
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If you want to learn the story about the stamp and the US notes vs federal reserve note it would be wise to search for and obtain a document titled "Notes of Debt are Not Income" (insert the word series underlined including the quotation marks to your favorite search engine). The pdf document is 30 pages and has some red bolded words and some blue bolded words. Family Guardian and Freedom School have copies and it should be found in a half dozen other places.

It is a wonderment to me that anyone believes replacing federal reserve notes with US notes would improve their lives. The search for the black card is simply a search for "something for nothing."

Think of bureaucracy as a bunch of willow brush growing in an irrigation canal. You might attempt to dig out the willows that are consuming the current (currency as Jordan Maxwell says) - OR you might reroute the irrigation canal sending the current around the infested section. IE; to eliminate bureaucrats STOP PAYING THEM!

Rethink the functions of money, separate the functions, and provide for the functions of money by a variety of methods.

Begin here: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments

Centralized money and centralized power form a symbiotic pair; neither can exist without the other. Decentralize money and return power to the people.
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not proof, opinion...

but, it is well thought out opinion...

the colb and bc, are two lines given to you upon birth...the bc is the item that enables you to go in to the public, contribute to the public, exchange with the public for private credit that accumulates to your colb...

the colb is an eternal document where what your ancestors have accumulated and not used has passed to you, and i am talking about financial credits that have been accumulating for 2000 years...

wouldn't you like to get your hands on some of it?

the bc and lawful money are very much related...
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that is a respectable opinion william and thanks for sharing it. where/how do you get the idea that private crdit accumulates to the COLB though?

but just as the CRAZYHORSE poster has commented, my ancestors did not have COLB or BC so how can any credit accumulate for 2000 years?

the COLB i have has mothers maiden name instead of married name and others have confirmed this is the case on theirs also so wouldnt that make the "child" a bastard born out of wedlock and therefore not an heir to any inheritance or "private credit"?


what if both COLB and BC are voidable instruments? and what if once voided one is able to receive a new name (white stone?) by a judges decree?

that is exactly what KW says that he has done.



redtext guy [Martin Earl] IMO youre absolutely despicable.
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not actual gold and silver...

our one dollar coin which only came in to effect about 15 years ago is gold coloured... about 5 years ago, a two dollar coin was added, it is silver coloured with gold in the centre... we have also removed the penney, and everything when paying with cash is rounded to the nickel...

but, it only applies to cash payments, debit and cheque still includes the penny...
 Quoting: william 72099580

Thanks for that.

Was william on the "end the fed" thread? I seem to remember someone from Canada bringing up a check being a warrant or dividend in Canada, I could be mistaken about that.

I do strike out the "the order of" on all checks written to my corporation (which exists for the sole purpose of redeeming lawful money of the united States) and without endorsement of any kind other than demand for redemption and refusal of FRNS in any form. Even with checks written for thousands of "dollars" there have been no issues with the banks.
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yes, i was on that thread for a bit...

but, i didn;t know as much as i do now...

the canadian bills of exchange act clearly states; a crossed check is a warrant for payment of a dividend...a crossed check is what you give for payment, service, goods, tax, etc.

if you look at the layout of a check; your name top left, your signature line bottom right, date top right, bank bottom left...a check with pay to the order of, is an order for the person or company named to pay...

the offer has to come from a corporation as they are holding the public credit, and you want to draw it you...so it is pay to the order of...now draw an X on your cheque, and you will see, you are drawing body to body (left to right) the date of the transaction is drawn to the bank (right to left) and they make a note of it...

at this point it is an executed contract, but with the bank making note of it, it is given rise when you get the statement...

executed means death; this is due to the added value (retail) not insured and accounted for yet...this happens when the fdic applies insurance... but, it cannot be redeemed yet until the reserve requirement is applied, and i believe that is what income tax is about...however, due to changing situation in financial world, it may be applied directly at the bank through the savings portion of your account...
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So banks act as the transfer agent of debt from the signer and the Corporations?

It has long been my assertion that Governments allow you and I (or anyone) to act as 'the' 'people' when it comes to signing of financial documents and without proper restriction of said "endorsements" the contract 'executes' the living man or woman and they assume that amount of debt onto their 'person' and removing the obligation to "pay" off the Government, off the Bank and off the Corporations and creating a "taxable event" for the person, does that match up with your findings?

Strangely enough, I was just talking to another about your posts in the other thread and your ideas about checks etc. Curious synchronicity we 'meet up' again here!
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not quite...

taxes on a municipal and state level are to them reserve funds, money they can put up to fractionalize...for example: for every $100 they take in they may be able to make $500, this money stay in the corporation and is used for projects, which by the way, is why all corporations are capitalized...

when that money is taken out of the corporation and moved to a private person, a fraction of the reserve is also taken... It is why when you write a name, you begin with a capital...

income tax is about putting up the reserve so it can be re-distributed to the corporations and making your dividend warrants redeemable...

all governments run huge deficits, and they can not reduce them as fast as they accumulate, they do in some ways by bringing them back to land by way of inflation of housing, goods, etc. but not enough to bring it to balance...

there is a reason, and it is always about timing...we synchronize when we are suppose to synchronize...
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not proof, opinion...

but, it is well thought out opinion...

the colb and bc, are two lines given to you upon birth...the bc is the item that enables you to go in to the public, contribute to the public, exchange with the public for private credit that accumulates to your colb...

the colb is an eternal document where what your ancestors have accumulated and not used has passed to you, and i am talking about financial credits that have been accumulating for 2000 years...

wouldn't you like to get your hands on some of it?

the bc and lawful money are very much related...
 Quoting: william 72099580



that is a respectable opinion william and thanks for sharing it. where/how do you get the idea that private crdit accumulates to the COLB though?

but just as the CRAZYHORSE poster has commented, my ancestors did not have COLB or BC so how can any credit accumulate for 2000 years?

the COLB i have has mothers maiden name instead of married name and others have confirmed this is the case on theirs also so wouldnt that make the "child" a bastard born out of wedlock and therefore not an heir to any inheritance or "private credit"?


what if both COLB and BC are voidable instruments? and what if once voided one is able to receive a new name (white stone?) by a judges decree?

that is exactly what KW says that he has done.



redtext guy [Martin Earl] IMO youre absolutely despicable.
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i am not a religious person, but you have to look for clues in the bible, because that is really what the book is about...

didn;t mary and joseph go up the hill to register...in rome they called it capitaline hill...

they conversion to christianity was/is about ushering in a new financial system...in this system everyone is capitalized, and it is saved through the bloodline waiting for redemption....

i do not know if the colb and bc can be voided... surrendered may be a better way...
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Legal Title is always in Capital letters as this JOHN DOE was born at the 3 moth 7 day of 1960 at 10:32 AM

Parents MARTHA BURUS STEVENSON maiden name, Father CORY STEVENSON city CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA Place of birth CRAZYHORSE HOSPITAL IN CRAZYHORSE ARIZONA doctor of record at birth REDMAN CRAZYHOUSE MD date filed 3 month the 8 day of1960

This is just how they do titles have you ever sign a loan and it said sign as above, it is always in title, that is not you, not that title, you sign as I have in upper and lower case so why pay if the title is not you, but you do because you borrowed it, but you can go bankrupt and it not you, it gone.

That is how bad the legal system, they have messed it up. The birth certificate had to do with proof of citizenship nothing else. My mother nor my father had a birth certificate they did not need one, she was born in Texas before Texas ask or made you record births, dad mom just never recorded his birth, but that did not stop him from servicing in the military or any thing else.


But really the REDMAN CRAZYHORSE would be a title of something not you, have you written a book with your name on it, or started a corporation with your name on it. No, as a citizen of this country my birth certificate does not have capital this is more recent for what I have no idea, my children's nor my husband with foot prints. It is a debt gimmick, but you as a citizen are not the capital letter in any shape or form unless you write a book about yourself.

As TRUMP is a title and he owns it they use it they pay him for the use. If you claim the capital name as he did with the art of the deal. Think about it, does not need to be long.
 Quoting: hankie


this is because you have to draw from the CAPITAL (public funds) to bring it in to your private...

all corporations are capitalized and this includes your bc, and colb...
 Quoting: william 72099580


and tombstones! I just read today one persons assertion that the BC (with the FEET prints) are actually stored at the State CAPITOL building. Don't know if that is true or not, if it is, I bet they are in the basement under ground level...
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yes tombstones...the symbol is telling you, the body is gone, but the spirit/credit is in the stone, the buildings, and you can draw it to you...

actually, i think it is the vatican and mormons holding the records in their massive vaults...
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anyhow, good night...

need some sleep...

you can tell by my sloppy spelling....
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not proof, opinion...

but, it is well thought out opinion...

the colb and bc, are two lines given to you upon birth...the bc is the item that enables you to go in to the public, contribute to the public, exchange with the public for private credit that accumulates to your colb...

the colb is an eternal document where what your ancestors have accumulated and not used has passed to you, and i am talking about financial credits that have been accumulating for 2000 years...

wouldn't you like to get your hands on some of it?

the bc and lawful money are very much related...
 Quoting: william 72099580



that is a respectable opinion william and thanks for sharing it. where/how do you get the idea that private crdit accumulates to the COLB though?

but just as the CRAZYHORSE poster has commented, my ancestors did not have COLB or BC so how can any credit accumulate for 2000 years?

the COLB i have has mothers maiden name instead of married name and others have confirmed this is the case on theirs also so wouldnt that make the "child" a bastard born out of wedlock and therefore not an heir to any inheritance or "private credit"?


what if both COLB and BC are voidable instruments? and what if once voided one is able to receive a new name (white stone?) by a judges decree?

that is exactly what KW says that he has done.



redtext guy [Martin Earl] IMO youre absolutely despicable.
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reported.
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AC0469. I know twonpeople hat have gone through the process of redeeming lawful money and do not pay federal taxes. So I know you are telling the truth and I trust what you are saying.

With that being said, Earlier in the thread you mentioned a mortgage and the UCC. How is that done? I have only seen the UCC used to get back taxes. How does it help with the mortgage?
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Search this:
THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES.doc

The applicable codes are there for further review AND confirmation before any action is taken by anyone for any reason.

I have not actually discharged a mortgage, so this is all speculation resulting form discharging other "obligations to pay" including from the EYE R ESS.

ANY bill or paper that purports to be evidence and amount of a DEBT can be "monetized" and returned to the other party for discharge. I ASSUME this would be the same for a Mortgage.

A possible process one might look into would be:

Written by hand, in red ink, somewhere on the face of the "debt instrument" at a 33 to 45 degree angle one might write the Employee Identification number (SSN with NO DASHES) then, below that, the SSN with dashes, the DOB, ALL CAPITOL LETTER NAME. and something to the effect of: the name and all corresponding accounts and numbers are property of the United States, please deposit to the creditor listed on this BILL $XXXXXX.xx

By: X

Usufruct, all rights reserved, with prejudice. Demand is made for redemption of this bill in lawful money of the United States.
*the $XXXXX.xx is the total amount owed/demanded by the Creditor who sent the bill*.

The "X" for the 'signature' is an actual X, not 'your signature' or autograph.

A United States postage stamp with a cent or dollar value on it maybe affixed to the lower right hand corner of the "bill". (this is Consideration, if you do not know what consideration is, look up that legal definition). DO NOT USE 'FOREVER STAMPS" FOR THIS, those are fiat, United States postage stamps with a fixed value are lawful money of the united States and are worth face value, non negotiable. You can "cancel" the stamp with a red ink autograph or "X" through the stamp.

make a copy for your records (in color) and send the Bill back Registered Mail, NOT certified mail, return receipt. I personally do not use a ZIP code or State abbreviation for the return address on the receipt and my true name for the return (not the LEGAL NAME).

You will have to insure the BILL for registered mail, so declare the "value of the BILL on the post office paper work to be $1 dollar of "lawful money of the United States" (or the actual value of the Stamp).

WARNING: this is not legal advice and is provided for educational purposes only, no value assured and no liability assumed by the poster, use at your own risk and be prepared to defend your actions to State, Federal or Bank agents. Do your homework, fast and pray, before ACTING.
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Thanks for that.

Was william on the "end the fed" thread? I seem to remember someone from Canada bringing up a check being a warrant or dividend in Canada, I could be mistaken about that.

I do strike out the "the order of" on all checks written to my corporation (which exists for the sole purpose of redeeming lawful money of the united States) and without endorsement of any kind other than demand for redemption and refusal of FRNS in any form. Even with checks written for thousands of "dollars" there have been no issues with the banks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


yes, i was on that thread for a bit...

but, i didn;t know as much as i do now...

the canadian bills of exchange act clearly states; a crossed check is a warrant for payment of a dividend...a crossed check is what you give for payment, service, goods, tax, etc.

if you look at the layout of a check; your name top left, your signature line bottom right, date top right, bank bottom left...a check with pay to the order of, is an order for the person or company named to pay...

the offer has to come from a corporation as they are holding the public credit, and you want to draw it you...so it is pay to the order of...now draw an X on your cheque, and you will see, you are drawing body to body (left to right) the date of the transaction is drawn to the bank (right to left) and they make a note of it...

at this point it is an executed contract, but with the bank making note of it, it is given rise when you get the statement...

executed means death; this is due to the added value (retail) not insured and accounted for yet...this happens when the fdic applies insurance... but, it cannot be redeemed yet until the reserve requirement is applied, and i believe that is what income tax is about...however, due to changing situation in financial world, it may be applied directly at the bank through the savings portion of your account...
 Quoting: william 72099580


So banks act as the transfer agent of debt from the signer and the Corporations?

It has long been my assertion that Governments allow you and I (or anyone) to act as 'the' 'people' when it comes to signing of financial documents and without proper restriction of said "endorsements" the contract 'executes' the living man or woman and they assume that amount of debt onto their 'person' and removing the obligation to "pay" off the Government, off the Bank and off the Corporations and creating a "taxable event" for the person, does that match up with your findings?

Strangely enough, I was just talking to another about your posts in the other thread and your ideas about checks etc. Curious synchronicity we 'meet up' again here!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


not quite...

taxes on a municipal and state level are to them reserve funds, money they can put up to fractionalize...for example: for every $100 they take in they may be able to make $500, this money stay in the corporation and is used for projects, which by the way, is why all corporations are capitalized...

when that money is taken out of the corporation and moved to a private person, a fraction of the reserve is also taken... It is why when you write a name, you begin with a capital...

income tax is about putting up the reserve so it can be re-distributed to the corporations and making your dividend warrants redeemable...

all governments run huge deficits, and they can not reduce them as fast as they accumulate, they do in some ways by bringing them back to land by way of inflation of housing, goods, etc. but not enough to bring it to balance...

there is a reason, and it is always about timing...we synchronize when we are suppose to synchronize...
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I agree,

Title 31 USC 5115 does not allow United States Currency Notes (the "lawful money" FRNS are redeemed for after Demand for redemption per 12 USC 411) to be "a reserve currency" so there is no fractioning of the deposit with demand for redemption.

I have posted the applicable Court rulings that in the united States, the only direct tax was on "notes not circulated by the issuing authority of Congress" that was in direct findings of taxation of private bank notes.

The 16th amendment gave no "new" taxing authority, so the direct taxation of privately issued bank notes are and were 'taxable'.

Also, after the last "bailouts" Banks can issue new loans with "zero to 3% reserves on deposit". So they are already allowed to loan with ZERO reserves.

Canadian code may vary.

Good night and thanks again for your timely responses.
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AC0469. I know twonpeople hat have gone through the process of redeeming lawful money and do not pay federal taxes. So I know you are telling the truth and I trust what you are saying.

With that being said, Earlier in the thread you mentioned a mortgage and the UCC. How is that done? I have only seen the UCC used to get back taxes. How does it help with the mortgage?
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Search this:
THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES.doc

The applicable codes are there for further review AND confirmation before any action is taken by anyone for any reason.

I have not actually discharged a mortgage, so this is all speculation resulting form discharging other "obligations to pay" including from the EYE R ESS.

ANY bill or paper that purports to be evidence and amount of a DEBT can be "monetized" and returned to the other party for discharge. I ASSUME this would be the same for a Mortgage.

A possible process one might look into would be:

Written by hand, in red ink, somewhere on the face of the "debt instrument" at a 33 to 45 degree angle one might write the Employee Identification number (SSN with NO DASHES) then, below that, the SSN with dashes, the DOB, ALL CAPITOL LETTER NAME. and something to the effect of: the name and all corresponding accounts and numbers are property of the United States, please deposit to the creditor listed on this BILL $XXXXXX.xx

By: X

Usufruct, all rights reserved, with prejudice. Demand is made for redemption of this bill in lawful money of the United States.
*the $XXXXX.xx is the total amount owed/demanded by the Creditor who sent the bill*.

The "X" for the 'signature' is an actual X, not 'your signature' or autograph.

A United States postage stamp with a cent or dollar value on it maybe affixed to the lower right hand corner of the "bill". (this is Consideration, if you do not know what consideration is, look up that legal definition). DO NOT USE 'FOREVER STAMPS" FOR THIS, those are fiat, United States postage stamps with a fixed value are lawful money of the united States and are worth face value, non negotiable. You can "cancel" the stamp with a red ink autograph or "X" through the stamp.

make a copy for your records (in color) and send the Bill back Registered Mail, NOT certified mail, return receipt. I personally do not use a ZIP code or State abbreviation for the return address on the receipt and my true name for the return (not the LEGAL NAME).

You will have to insure the BILL for registered mail, so declare the "value of the BILL on the post office paper work to be $1 dollar of "lawful money of the United States" (or the actual value of the Stamp).

WARNING: this is not legal advice and is provided for educational purposes only, no value assured and no liability assumed by the poster, use at your own risk and be prepared to defend your actions to State, Federal or Bank agents. Do your homework, fast and pray, before ACTING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


AC0469. I know twonpeople hat have gone through the process of redeeming lawful money and do not pay federal taxes. So I know you are telling the truth and I trust what you are saying.

With that being said, Earlier in the thread you mentioned a mortgage and the UCC. How is that done? I have only seen the UCC used to get back taxes. How does it help with the mortgage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54621542


Search this:
THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES.doc

The applicable codes are there for further review AND confirmation before any action is taken by anyone for any reason.

I have not actually discharged a mortgage, so this is all speculation resulting form discharging other "obligations to pay" including from the EYE R ESS.

ANY bill or paper that purports to be evidence and amount of a DEBT can be "monetized" and returned to the other party for discharge. I ASSUME this would be the same for a Mortgage.

A possible process one might look into would be:

Written by hand, in red ink, somewhere on the face of the "debt instrument" at a 33 to 45 degree angle one might write the Employee Identification number (SSN with NO DASHES) then, below that, the SSN with dashes, the DOB, ALL CAPITOL LETTER NAME. and something to the effect of: the name and all corresponding accounts and numbers are property of the United States, please deposit to the creditor listed on this BILL $XXXXXX.xx

By: X

Usufruct, all rights reserved, with prejudice. Demand is made for redemption of this bill in lawful money of the United States.
*the $XXXXX.xx is the total amount owed/demanded by the Creditor who sent the bill*.

The "X" for the 'signature' is an actual X, not 'your signature' or autograph.

A United States postage stamp with a cent or dollar value on it maybe affixed to the lower right hand corner of the "bill". (this is Consideration, if you do not know what consideration is, look up that legal definition). DO NOT USE 'FOREVER STAMPS" FOR THIS, those are fiat, United States postage stamps with a fixed value are lawful money of the united States and are worth face value, non negotiable. You can "cancel" the stamp with a red ink autograph or "X" through the stamp.

make a copy for your records (in color) and send the Bill back Registered Mail, NOT certified mail, return receipt. I personally do not use a ZIP code or State abbreviation for the return address on the receipt and my true name for the return (not the LEGAL NAME).

You will have to insure the BILL for registered mail, so declare the "value of the BILL on the post office paper work to be $1 dollar of "lawful money of the United States" (or the actual value of the Stamp).

WARNING: this is not legal advice and is provided for educational purposes only, no value assured and no liability assumed by the poster, use at your own risk and be prepared to defend your actions to State, Federal or Bank agents. Do your homework, fast and pray, before ACTING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


First off thanks for replying to my post.

Thanks for saying you have never done this before. I appreciate the honesty. you mentioned that you discharged other debts so is this like a4v?

How do you discharge it? I know I'm asking for a lot but I used to follow it and tried it but i never fully caught on. I know how to do the UCC and federal taxes but I couldn't figure out discharging debt.

Thanks.





GLP