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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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still no noon data...I WANTED THAT LAST HOUR..WOULD HAVE HAD A GOOD LAST 24 HR. MEASUREMENT...UH...IT WAS UP TO 1.13 ISH FEET...IN 23 HRS..ARGH!
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Yeah, still no noon data, except the outflow, which is back up to over 5000 CFS.

They're spending this water like drunken sailors LOL
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People are THIRSTY in LA and San Diego ... and can't have people not have their thirst quenched or lawns not watered until AFTER the recall election is complete. (I am sure they are Thanking the Governor!!)

fwiw ... the cities of Southern California are still getting their full draw from the Colorado River even with the shortfall in Colorado River water coming out of Lake Mead (Hoover Reservoir). 1.2 million acre feet a year is still being pumped UPHILL to go though the tunnels and pipes and concrete ditches linking the pumping stations along the river to LA County /Orange County /San Diego County.
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Not to mention the water coming from lake Orovile and lake Shasta getting pumped uphill over the grapevine to So Cal.

And the water that LA steals from the Owens Valley.

Meanwhile, I have stopped watering nearly everything because I am concerned about my well going dry.
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651.38 !

MASSIVE DROP IN OUTFLOWS LAST HOUR!
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OUT FLOWS DROPPED AND INFLOWS DROPPED...CARZY! 400 PERCENT...ON THE OUT FLOW...? UUH
300?
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OUT FLOWS DROPPED AND INFLOWS DROPPED...CARZY! 400 PERCENT...ON THE OUT FLOW...? UUH
300?
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651.38 !

MASSIVE DROP IN OUTFLOWS LAST HOUR!
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OUT FLOWS DROPPED AND INFLOWS DROPPED...CARZY! 400 PERCENT...ON THE OUT FLOW...? UUH
300?
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651.38 !

MASSIVE DROP IN OUTFLOWS LAST HOUR!
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651.38 !

MASSIVE DROP IN OUTFLOWS LAST HOUR!
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can you paste the data uh i dont understand.
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I am thinking you mean lake level
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I am thinking you mean lake level
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He means more wonky data,

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET STORAGE
AF OUTFLOW
CFS INFLOW
CFS RIV REL
CFS RAIN
INCHES BAT VOL
VOLTS
07/25/2021 23:00 651.90 923,649 3,897 2,211 2,537 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 00:00 651.89 923,587 3,897 2,994 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 01:00 651.88 923,525 3,897 3,395 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 02:00 651.87 923,463 3,897 3,033 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 03:00 651.80 923,031 3,896 1,165 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 04:00 651.77 922,847 3,896 1,190 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 05:00 651.71 922,477 3,896 830 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 06:00 651.71 922,477 5,152 1,641 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 07:00 651.69 922,353 5,136 3,598 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 08:00 651.61 921,860 5,133 1,565 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 09:00 651.38 920,443 1,249 802 2,538 16.39 13.3
07/26/2021 10:00 651.38 920,443 5,152 -2,725 2,539 16.39 13.4
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I am thinking you mean lake level
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He means more wonky data,

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET STORAGE
AF OUTFLOW
CFS INFLOW
CFS RIV REL
CFS RAIN
INCHES BAT VOL
VOLTS
07/25/2021 23:00 651.90 923,649 3,897 2,211 2,537 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 00:00 651.89 923,587 3,897 2,994 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 01:00 651.88 923,525 3,897 3,395 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 02:00 651.87 923,463 3,897 3,033 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 03:00 651.80 923,031 3,896 1,165 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 04:00 651.77 922,847 3,896 1,190 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 05:00 651.71 922,477 3,896 830 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 06:00 651.71 922,477 5,152 1,641 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 07:00 651.69 922,353 5,136 3,598 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 08:00 651.61 921,860 5,133 1,565 2,538 16.39 13.4
07/26/2021 09:00 651.38 920,443 1,249 802 2,538 16.39 13.3
07/26/2021 10:00 651.38 920,443 5,152 -2,725 2,539 16.39 13.4
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Cheers crunch
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Cheers crunch
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The data...the numbers are completely suspect and unreliable, as well as unbelievable.

Twice today, the reservoir elevation supposedly remained unchanged over the course of an hour, although inflow and outflow varied significantly (according to the numbers).

This is physically impossible.

And the proliferation of negative inflow numbers. WTF? It is certainly possible to have zero inflow. But negative inflow? Is God himself sucking up the water?

Of course, DWR has a disclaimer on the page...'this information is preliminary and subject to change" etc.

I have been watching the data for this reservoir daily for more years than I care to remember. I cannot recall ONE instance of DWR correcting erroneous data after the fact. Not one.

Honestly, I would like to witness one of those 'negative inflow' events. I am sure it would be something to see.
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650.98
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650.98
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PREDICTION...MIDNIGHT...@ AUG, 1ST CALI TIME........644.44!
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650.98
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PREDICTION...MIDNIGHT...@ AUG, 1ST CALI TIME........644.44!
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650.33
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649.98

Getting closer to game over.
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TRUMPS FAULT
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Wow...

What's the current level? Under 650 yet?
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649.71
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Woh, that third picture ..not only is there no water ,,but even, the whole picture ..is Gone!

Admit it ..we're Fucked! lol
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About 5 feet to all time low.
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Woh, that third picture ..not only is there no water ,,but even, the whole picture ..is Gone!

Admit it ..we're Fucked! lol
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Here is that 3rd photo, taken just a few days ago.

Sorry, I forgot how to embed.


IMAGE ( [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] )

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Level drop slowing down now. Panic must be setting in
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Must be worrying for them starting the diversion tunnel. Wonder if they have tested them yet.
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If there are any problems, downstream is toast.
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If there are any problems, downstream is toast.
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At this point, there isn't really any risk of flooding downstream with a nearly empty reservoir. The risk of issues will arise as the reservoir refills, either slowly or quickly.

However, the migratory salmon downstream need the river to keep flowing.

And I guess those nearly extinct Delta Smelt down in Sacramento need the fresh water inflow as well.

If the CA DWR can't keep the river flowing for the next 3-4 months, it might be toast for those fish.

I am interested to see how DWR handles this. I suspect heads are rolling as we speak.

I believe I read yesterday that former DWR spokesperson Erin Mellon (who lied to me/us regarding the Oroville reservoir) is now Governor Newsom's spokesperson.

And of course, Newsom is about to be recalled. Interesting times.

I have the radio scanners running and just cracked a fresh cold one. Bring it.

Last Edited by Crunch62 on 07/28/2021 05:09 PM
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Woh, that third picture ..not only is there no water ,,but even, the whole picture ..is Gone!

Admit it ..we're Fucked! lol
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Here is that 3rd photo, taken just a few days ago.

Sorry, I forgot how to embed.


IMAGE ( [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] )

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this is better anyway.. you have to keep an image pretty small to upload as a smiley... wow.. that's "impressive"...
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If there are any problems, downstream is toast.
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At this point, there isn't really any risk of flooding downstream with a nearly empty reservoir. The risk of issues will arise as the reservoir refills, either slowly or quickly.

However, the migratory salmon downstream need the river to keep flowing.

And I guess those nearly extinct Delta Smelt down in Sacramento need the fresh water inflow as well.

If the CA DWR can't keep the river flowing for the next 3-4 months, it might be toast for those fish.

I am interested to see how DWR handles this. I suspect heads are rolling as we speak.

I believe I read yesterday that former DWR spokesperson Erin Mellon (who lied to me/us regarding the Oroville reservoir) is now Governor Newsom's spokesperson.

And of course, Newsom is about to be recalled. Interesting times.

I have the radio scanners running and just cracked a fresh cold one. Bring it.
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This is exactly what I meant plus all the other problems that are connected with a dead river.
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Embedded for all to see

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^Thank you for that ^

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