California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73959688 United States 02/13/2017 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed It all goes down Saturday night! Around 7PM PST... you heard it here first!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73024571 Friday 7PM PST Yep I wager Friday too. It's a Biblical flood date too! Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. DOOM! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74039751 Serbia 02/13/2017 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed It's a Biblical flood date too! Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. I don't think February is the Hebrew second month Indeed. Doom off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69389072 United States 02/13/2017 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Crunch, they just said Nick's market is open. They're short on bread and milk but they said nothing about a beer shortage.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69389072 Nick's Market in Gridley? Didn't get the city, but it might be worth calling them to see if they'll put a couple sixers aside for ya.. |
BRYinTX
User ID: 73778352 Germany 02/13/2017 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed 3-4 years ago when the lake was way down, I figure some folks found a mother lode of gold somewhere around there. There were at least 2 mining camps at the bottom of that lake. They built bridges over them that are still standing. Only one way to get the gold. ~ Keeping it GLP |
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the redeemable furry pete
User ID: 71171708 United States 02/13/2017 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed don't forget the shasta dam is about overflowing and it also drains into sacremento....this place is truly fucked! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61078169 I went into a small town off I5 today, saw more CA cars than usual, I think the really smart people headed north and haven't stopped "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24449894 United States 02/13/2017 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed don't forget the shasta dam is about overflowing and it also drains into sacremento....this place is truly fucked! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61078169 I went into a small town off I5 today, saw more CA cars than usual, I think the really smart people headed north and haven't stopped Amen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74033652 United States 02/13/2017 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Here you go, near the parking lot gatehouse. [link to oi64.tinypic.com] If I understand it correctly... that (during submersion) was a sinkhole that appeared at the bend in the road. so... it was not 'flowing' with water coming OUT... It became a DRAIN... finding a CAVITY inside the 'fill' area UNDERNEATH the parking area... which was CONTRIBUTING to the 'seepage' making the entire outlying area BEYOND the ES... wet and MOAR unstable. That's why they're 'plugging it' with bags-o-rock. They're PLUGGING A DRAIN. Anybody else get this? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73959688 United States 02/13/2017 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed This is sure taking the heat off WW3 and Fukushima, perhaps on purpose...panic sets in..a dam might burst...wtf...i worry more about Fukushima...we all should Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73556344 this is maybe..a distraction? to hide the real threat..worried :( Not really - its hardly being covered at the moment, sites like CNN are more worried about fucking overrated Beyonce and if the grammies are racist. Cant stand Adele...nor Beyonce...lots on uk news about the dam..fk all about Fukushima...tossers are hiding stuff, we are just little plebs...and we are expected to play the stupid game, say nothing..carry on :( I used to work in a military capacity of emergency response - what I learned is you don't wait on others to make decisions for you and get the word out to you about if you should get outta dodge. You make the best analysis you can and you get out. Basically if you are in a situation where you are watching the news and trying to make a decision based on what you are being told you are already behind the ball on what you should be doing. If the discussion starts, even starts - get out - pack and get out. You can see that officials are too busy not knowing what to do and covering their butts - later it will be the blame game - but do you put your own life and well being in their hands - oh hell no. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72479182 United States 02/13/2017 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed That would be 6.25 days to get to the "-50'" magic number the DWR has given. The have maybe 3 days max before inflow overtakes outflow. Do the math. It's going to Overtop the ES by Friday |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69389072 United States 02/13/2017 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed That photo is old? Just look at the area below the ES wall. The road was still there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74039751 Now it's this: [link to www.trbimg.com] That doesn't look good. I'm not seeing any bedrock under there. That's unfortunate.. They were pumping cement into the hole with water in it earlier.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71484121 United States 02/13/2017 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed It's a Biblical flood date too! Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. DOOM! |
the redeemable furry pete
User ID: 71171708 United States 02/13/2017 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed maybe dinosaur bones, that whole area has them "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74010943 United States 02/13/2017 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Deplorable bluecandle Sacramento is always in danger every Seasonal Spring Flooding time. pay no attention to them. How can you say that?!?! This is not seasonal flooding!!! Even if the dam breaches at the spill way, the water is a wall of death. Why would you put serious comments down??? Oroville Dam will only be ankle deep by the time it gets to Sacramento. Moving at 30 plus miles per hour. You can stand in that and not be swept away? Ignorance is not bliss. Ok....stand in front of a car moving at 30 mph...see if you stand there ? |
auntiebeads
User ID: 73112711 United States 02/13/2017 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the park cam entirely black for anyone else? [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Thanks in advance. |
Switchback User ID: 74039853 United States 02/13/2017 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I'm not so sure it's a good idea to display images of the giant undercut that's happening under that spillway. Quoting: Switchback 74039853 It will just freak people out. They may have asked the media to back off so they can fix it... As best they can. I suspect they will drop loads of rock by air, and then a massive amount of concrete which will cure in 1 hour. It's the size of the undercut that's got them concerned. The water entering that hole is washing out the back side support of the dam. Nobody can really know the size of that hole by now... They have to risk that, and fill the void with everything they have. That town is at risk until July. I'm not sure they will lift the evacuation until they get a peek at the size of the undercut into the dam support below the spillway. . Geology. Water chooses the easiest route. If you can fill the hole, the water chooses the spillway. I will be a race between the water riding and filling the void in the spillway. I have no doubt we will see 5 helicopters dropping material in that hole, while a concrete batch plant makes hot concrete that cures in 1-2 hours, to fill the voids. All this must be coordinated and completed within 48 hours. A challenging task, but very possible, once you have the equipment on site and able to transport the material and make the hot concrete. Right now I'm sure they are assembling the batch plant and gathering the rock. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72887337 Canada 02/13/2017 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Here you go, near the parking lot gatehouse. [link to oi64.tinypic.com] If I understand it correctly... that (during submersion) was a sinkhole that appeared at the bend in the road. so... it was not 'flowing' with water coming OUT... It became a DRAIN... finding a CAVITY inside the 'fill' area UNDERNEATH the parking area... which was CONTRIBUTING to the 'seepage' making the entire outlying area BEYOND the ES... wet and MOAR unstable. That's why they're 'plugging it' with bags-o-rock. They're PLUGGING A DRAIN. Anybody else get this? Its not going under the parking lot, due to the size of the hole and material moved it has found its way to the other side of the dam and out to the river! |
tmorais
User ID: 73604885 Brazil 02/13/2017 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Main #OrovilleSpillway flowing at 100,000 cfs. Lake levels down to 894’ feet. Crews working to fill erosion on the emergency spillway. [link to twitter.com (secure)] . 8 feet down since the evacuation. They'll need at least 5 more days to hit the 'safe spot' of 850. |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 11213558 United States 02/13/2017 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is Sacramento in serious danger? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73778504 That's what we've all been wondering. I believe so. they're having levy breaches and "imminent" breaches now, without most of Oroville Lake in them. So yes, I agree.. You forgot to add in Lake Shasta. It has to drain sometime. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45409013 United States 02/13/2017 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Any process control engineer has had to calculate Proportional Integral Derivative systems. That's how much in, how much out, and over what time base of ability to control by given means. This is referred to as a PID loop. Thus is a major fail on the part of management to not recognize that this is an El Niño year, and not having the spill-way full open since October. Oh, but engineering isn't cool.. let's talk about f'n feelings..... The whole emergency spill-way is now jelly-like from overflow and backwash. The entire overflow spill-way should have been concrete with half inch steel welded plate on top. There are many photos of what Sacramento looks like when the rain has its way. If flow begins under part of the human-created structure, Sacramento needs canoes. Merced will have beachfront properties. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42356484 United States 02/13/2017 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I have been away for a while so don't know if anyone asked this already but how come there are no lights on the dam tonight? I can see cars moving but nothing else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71484121 United States 02/13/2017 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed It's a Biblical flood date too! Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. DOOM! I for one am a firm believer in meaningful coincidences... |
Use your brian, moran!
User ID: 4818770 United States 02/13/2017 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Lol. No. Mother Nature uses they ES. They can just patch. I actually think they are trying to make the earth heavier to slow down the mudslide that is coming. We'll agree to disagree. That EO will be used again if it survives long enough. It will fail but what choice do they have. They can't just give up so they'll go down swinging. At least they have evacuated the locals. Speaking of evacuations, time for a vacation if you live in Sacramento. The point that we have been trying to make, for days on end, is that, A)the Emergency Spillway(ES) is not an "auxiliary spillway"(not pointing a finger at you, I'm just sayin) & B)though it may seem trivial or a matter of semantics, they don't "use the ES" as the vast majority of people think of when they hear that phrase. It's not a valve they can turn or a door/gate that can be "opened to allow water to flow out". The ES is a static portion of the dam, as I understand it(& I have no doubt as to the speed with which I will be corrected if I'm mistaken on any point here LOL), & is part of the structural design to allow water to escape when power plant & spillway are unable to keep up with the inflow. People seem, all to often, to be of the mistaken impression that it's another control point which can be utilized to help control the reservoir level. It's simply the designed low point of the damn to allow water to overtop the dam, rather to continue to accumulate in the reservoir & threaten the structural integrity of the dam itself, a built-in "failsafe"(Oh the irony) to allow water & thus enormous amounts of pressure, to be relieved(again, as I understand things). Sorry if I am telling you what you already know but it's clearly something which is a point of confusion/contention over the last few days & hopefully I didn't have any significant errors in my comment. I'm not an expert in the field & don't want to share false/bad info. Just thought I'd take a stab at trying to help clear things up a little bit. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69389072 United States 02/13/2017 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the park cam entirely black for anyone else? [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Quoting: auntiebeads Thanks in advance. I see a couple little lights flashing. IT looks to be pointed up over the dam right now.. just saw something with a light fly by.. |
Insomnia
User ID: 72018574 Canada 02/13/2017 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Is the park cam entirely black for anyone else? [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] Quoting: auntiebeads Thanks in advance. i went on and it was completely black except for a light trailing from right to left in the middle of the screen, could have been headlights on a road. not sure where the cam is looking at. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8499244 United States 02/13/2017 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Main #OrovilleSpillway flowing at 100,000 cfs. Lake levels down to 894’ feet. Crews working to fill erosion on the emergency spillway. Quoting: tmorais [link to twitter.com (secure)] . 8 feet down since the evacuation. They'll need at least 5 more days to hit the 'safe spot' of 850. 50÷7.46 Total Feet 24 hours = 6.7024128686 |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 11213558 United States 02/13/2017 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Latest Stats for water level Oroville Dam; 02/13/2017 –7:00pm 893.49 [link to rdcfeeds.redding.com] *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Pole Cat
User ID: 62959895 United States 02/13/2017 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed park feed is completely black. haven't seen this before. [link to www.parks.ca.gov (secure)] what happened to the dam lights??? |