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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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RIGHT AT 125.
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And only 22.70 inches of rain for the season.

Depending on where you look we are either 10 inches below average for the season or 20+ inches below.

Either way, below average rainfall by the numbers, so far.

I understand some places got 300% of average accumulation within a few days.

Oroville did not.
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2/3rds of seasonal rainfall in two weeks is a big event. But you can never be wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190



Imagine thinking that rainfall is evenly distributed throughout an entire season. Especially in an area with a wet season and a dry season.

baby
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2/3rds of annual rainfall in two weeks is normal here. The rainy season is short. There have been years that we received 3/4 of the annual rainfall in the month of March alone. Again, no major flooding in Butte County. No mass evacuations. Normal rainfall so far. No excess reservoir releases. Normal suspect roads are flooded and closed. Happens every year. So far, a nothingburger.
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And only 22.70 inches of rain for the season.

Depending on where you look we are either 10 inches below average for the season or 20+ inches below.

Either way, below average rainfall by the numbers, so far.

I understand some places got 300% of average accumulation within a few days.

Oroville did not.
 Quoting: Crunch62


2/3rds of seasonal rainfall in two weeks is a big event. But you can never be wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190



Imagine thinking that rainfall is evenly distributed throughout an entire season. Especially in an area with a wet season and a dry season.

baby
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84562288


2/3rds of annual rainfall in two weeks is normal here. The rainy season is short. There have been years that we received 3/4 of the annual rainfall in the month of March alone. Again, no major flooding in Butte County. No mass evacuations. Normal rainfall so far. No excess reservoir releases. Normal suspect roads are flooded and closed. Happens every year. So far, a nothingburger.
 Quoting: Crunch62


That's why they declared a state of emergency. Your own standard for classifying the storm as historic or not. How does your foot taste?

If this happens every year, we wouldn't be in a drought.
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Try something original, instead of being a mindless parrot.
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You are right about everything and it is never your fault. Local declarations of emergency are meaningless compared to your wisdom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


Not wisdom.

Experience.

There is a difference.

Conditions here are nothing like they were in 1986 or 1997.

That may change, time will tell.
 Quoting: Crunch62


You set the standard as a declaration of emergency, not me. Now it isn't good enough.

Definition of wisdom: Wisdom, sapience, or sagacity is the ability to contemplate and act productively using knowledge, experience, understanding, common sense and insight.

But you're right about everything so I shouldn't even be questioning your lack of logic or feeble grasp of the English language.
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Incorrect. I set the standard as major flooding and mass evacuations. It hasn't happened here.

Prove me wrong.

Or STFU.
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RIGHT AT 125.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77289264


And only 22.70 inches of rain for the season.

Depending on where you look we are either 10 inches below average for the season or 20+ inches below.

Either way, below average rainfall by the numbers, so far.

I understand some places got 300% of average accumulation within a few days.

Oroville did not.
 Quoting: Crunch62


2/3rds of seasonal rainfall in two weeks is a big event. But you can never be wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190



Imagine thinking that rainfall is evenly distributed throughout an entire season. Especially in an area with a wet season and a dry season.

baby
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It is normally distributed through the months of November up to sometimes May. This storm has smashed monthly rainfall totals. By "seasonal average", one can safely assume we mean the wet season. Unless you're trying to cuddle up to your friend crunch and then you can nitpick stupid points to make him seem smart and correct.
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The Governer has declared a state of emergency and requested federal aid for 20 counties in California.

Butte County is not on that list. Facts, shill. Facts.

[link to www.gov.ca.gov (secure)]


"The National Weather Service’s forecast and
California’s State Climatologist’s current modeling predicts additional significant,
if not historic, flooding impacts in the following counties due to the upcoming
storm: Mendocino, Merced, Monterey, Sacramento, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz,
Sonoma, Stanislaus, and Ventura
. Due to wildfire burn scars, debris flows are
highly likely in the following counties: El Dorado, Los Angeles, Mariposa,
Monterey, Napa, Placer, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, and
Sonoma.
I am specifically requesting approval of emergency protective
measures (Category B), limited to Direct Federal Assistance(“DFA”), under the
Public Assistance program for the above listed counties."
 Quoting: Crunch62


Here it is. Your judgement that the storm is nothing out of the ordinary based on which counties you (thought) were in a state of emergency. Your source was wrong or outdated and here you are again trying to defend being wrong. Pathetic.
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2/3rds of seasonal rainfall in two weeks is a big event. But you can never be wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190



Imagine thinking that rainfall is evenly distributed throughout an entire season. Especially in an area with a wet season and a dry season.

baby
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84562288


2/3rds of annual rainfall in two weeks is normal here. The rainy season is short. There have been years that we received 3/4 of the annual rainfall in the month of March alone. Again, no major flooding in Butte County. No mass evacuations. Normal rainfall so far. No excess reservoir releases. Normal suspect roads are flooded and closed. Happens every year. So far, a nothingburger.
 Quoting: Crunch62


That's why they declared a state of emergency. Your own standard for classifying the storm as historic or not. How does your foot taste?

If this happens every year, we wouldn't be in a drought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


It happens every year. I can give you a list of the roads that are underwater every year. Every year. Butte County doesn't care, they just close them. Every year.

Normal rainfall in one area is not going to correct a statewide drought. Look at the big picture.
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Imagine thinking that rainfall is evenly distributed throughout an entire season. Especially in an area with a wet season and a dry season.

baby
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84562288


2/3rds of annual rainfall in two weeks is normal here. The rainy season is short. There have been years that we received 3/4 of the annual rainfall in the month of March alone. Again, no major flooding in Butte County. No mass evacuations. Normal rainfall so far. No excess reservoir releases. Normal suspect roads are flooded and closed. Happens every year. So far, a nothingburger.
 Quoting: Crunch62


That's why they declared a state of emergency. Your own standard for classifying the storm as historic or not. How does your foot taste?

If this happens every year, we wouldn't be in a drought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


It happens every year. I can give you a list of the roads that are underwater every year. Every year. Butte County doesn't care, they just close them. Every year.

Normal rainfall in one area is not going to correct a statewide drought. Look at the big picture.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I'd like to see that list. But I suspect you are full of shit and making stuff up as you go.
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DOrolleyes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42527728


The Governer has declared a state of emergency and requested federal aid for 20 counties in California.

Butte County is not on that list. Facts, shill. Facts.

[link to www.gov.ca.gov (secure)]


"The National Weather Service’s forecast and
California’s State Climatologist’s current modeling predicts additional significant,
if not historic, flooding impacts in the following counties due to the upcoming
storm: Mendocino, Merced, Monterey, Sacramento, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz,
Sonoma, Stanislaus, and Ventura
. Due to wildfire burn scars, debris flows are
highly likely in the following counties: El Dorado, Los Angeles, Mariposa,
Monterey, Napa, Placer, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, and
Sonoma.
I am specifically requesting approval of emergency protective
measures (Category B), limited to Direct Federal Assistance(“DFA”), under the
Public Assistance program for the above listed counties."
 Quoting: Crunch62


Here it is. Your judgement that the storm is nothing out of the ordinary based on which counties you (thought) were in a state of emergency. Your source was wrong or outdated and here you are again trying to defend being wrong. Pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


??? I don't see Butte (or many others) on that list.
I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
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2/3rds of annual rainfall in two weeks is normal here. The rainy season is short. There have been years that we received 3/4 of the annual rainfall in the month of March alone. Again, no major flooding in Butte County. No mass evacuations. Normal rainfall so far. No excess reservoir releases. Normal suspect roads are flooded and closed. Happens every year. So far, a nothingburger.
 Quoting: Crunch62


That's why they declared a state of emergency. Your own standard for classifying the storm as historic or not. How does your foot taste?

If this happens every year, we wouldn't be in a drought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


It happens every year. I can give you a list of the roads that are underwater every year. Every year. Butte County doesn't care, they just close them. Every year.

Normal rainfall in one area is not going to correct a statewide drought. Look at the big picture.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I'd like to see that list. But I suspect you are full of shit and making stuff up as you go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85061825


While its true many roads do flood in Butte Co every year, its also true he's full of shit and making it up as he goes.
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DOrolleyes
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The Governer has declared a state of emergency and requested federal aid for 20 counties in California.

Butte County is not on that list. Facts, shill. Facts.

[link to www.gov.ca.gov (secure)]


"The National Weather Service’s forecast and
California’s State Climatologist’s current modeling predicts additional significant,
if not historic, flooding impacts in the following counties due to the upcoming
storm: Mendocino, Merced, Monterey, Sacramento, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz,
Sonoma, Stanislaus, and Ventura
. Due to wildfire burn scars, debris flows are
highly likely in the following counties: El Dorado, Los Angeles, Mariposa,
Monterey, Napa, Placer, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, and
Sonoma.
I am specifically requesting approval of emergency protective
measures (Category B), limited to Direct Federal Assistance(“DFA”), under the
Public Assistance program for the above listed counties."
 Quoting: Crunch62


Here it is. Your judgement that the storm is nothing out of the ordinary based on which counties you (thought) were in a state of emergency. Your source was wrong or outdated and here you are again trying to defend being wrong. Pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


??? I don't see Butte (or many others) on that list.
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Feigning stupidity is now your defense? Already posted a link showing Butte in a state of emergency. Maybe the stupidity isn't feigned?

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Imagine thinking that rainfall is evenly distributed throughout an entire season. Especially in an area with a wet season and a dry season.

baby
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84562288


2/3rds of annual rainfall in two weeks is normal here. The rainy season is short. There have been years that we received 3/4 of the annual rainfall in the month of March alone. Again, no major flooding in Butte County. No mass evacuations. Normal rainfall so far. No excess reservoir releases. Normal suspect roads are flooded and closed. Happens every year. So far, a nothingburger.
 Quoting: Crunch62


That's why they declared a state of emergency. Your own standard for classifying the storm as historic or not. How does your foot taste?

If this happens every year, we wouldn't be in a drought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


It happens every year. I can give you a list of the roads that are underwater every year. Every year. Butte County doesn't care, they just close them. Every year.

Normal rainfall in one area is not going to correct a statewide drought. Look at the big picture.
 Quoting: Crunch62


If we had this rainfall every year there would be no drought. Are you capable of understanding what I am saying? This isn't hard to grasp.
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I'd like to see that list. But I suspect you are full of shit and making stuff up as you go.
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RoadName Location Status Reason Notes DateEffective lblStatus​-Reason x y
Lone Tree Rd Lone Tree Rd from Palermo Rd to Cox Ln Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 1:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Lower Honcut Rd Lower Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut Hwy to La Porte Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 11:00 AM Closed-Flooding
Cox Ln Cox Ln from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut Hwy Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 10:00 AM Closed-Flooding
West Sacramento Ave West Sacramento Ave from Meridian Rd to River Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 5:00 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from Chico River Rd to Ord Ferry Rd Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Ord Ferry Rd Ord Ferry Rd from Seven Mile Ln to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 2:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Nelson Rd Nelson Rd from Seven Mile Ln to Aguas Frias Rd Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 1:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Afton Rd Afton Rd from Aguas Frias Rd to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Colusa HWY Colusa HWY from the Cherokee Canal to the Colusa County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from West Sacramento Ave to Chico River Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 2:45 PM Closed-Flooding
Durnel Dr Durnel Dr from Nelson Rd to Grainland Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 12:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut HWY Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 3:30 PM Closed-Flooding
Middle Honcut Rd Middle Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut HWY to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 6:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Stimpson Rd Stimpson Rd from Cox Ln to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 3:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from HWY 70 to Lone Tree Rd Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 8:45 AM Closed-Flooding
French Creek Rd Closed Seasonal Closure 12/29/2022, 9:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from the Jonesville Snow Park to the County line Closed Seasonal Closure Jonesville Snow Park gate is closed 12/14/2022, 8:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Skyway Skyway from Stirling City to Inskip Traffic Control Snow Chains Required R3 chain controls 12/1/2022, 7:00 AM Traffic Control-Snow Chains Required
Skyway Skyway from Inskip to Butte Meadows Closed Seasonal Closure 12/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Oro Quincy HWY Oro Quincy HWY from Mountain House to Plumas County Line Closed Seasonal Closure Closed through Spring due to snow 11/9/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Honey Run Rd Honey Run Rd from Paradise City Limits to Honey View Terrace Closed Other Closed per Town of Paradise 5/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from Stilson Canyon Rd & HWY 32 Closed Other Illegal Dumping & Illegal Activity 9/1/2020, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Dark Canyon Rd From Paiute Dr to Oroville Lake Closed Rocks and/or Mudslide 2/14/2019, 10:30 AM Closed-Rocks and/or Mudslide


Keep in mind, this NORMAL for this area these roads are closed every year when it rains.

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The Governer has declared a state of emergency and requested federal aid for 20 counties in California.

Butte County is not on that list. Facts, shill. Facts.

[link to www.gov.ca.gov (secure)]


"The National Weather Service’s forecast and
California’s State Climatologist’s current modeling predicts additional significant,
if not historic, flooding impacts in the following counties due to the upcoming
storm: Mendocino, Merced, Monterey, Sacramento, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz,
Sonoma, Stanislaus, and Ventura
. Due to wildfire burn scars, debris flows are
highly likely in the following counties: El Dorado, Los Angeles, Mariposa,
Monterey, Napa, Placer, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, and
Sonoma.
I am specifically requesting approval of emergency protective
measures (Category B), limited to Direct Federal Assistance(“DFA”), under the
Public Assistance program for the above listed counties."
 Quoting: Crunch62


Here it is. Your judgement that the storm is nothing out of the ordinary based on which counties you (thought) were in a state of emergency. Your source was wrong or outdated and here you are again trying to defend being wrong. Pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


??? I don't see Butte (or many others) on that list.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Feigning stupidity is now your defense? Already posted a link showing Butte in a state of emergency. Maybe the stupidity isn't feigned?

[link to www.actionnewsnow.com (secure)]
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Not a county declared as emergency by the governor requesting federal aid (which is what I stated).

Reading comprehension. Learn it.
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I'd like to see that list. But I suspect you are full of shit and making stuff up as you go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85061825


RoadName Location Status Reason Notes DateEffective lblStatus​-Reason x y
Lone Tree Rd Lone Tree Rd from Palermo Rd to Cox Ln Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 1:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Lower Honcut Rd Lower Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut Hwy to La Porte Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 11:00 AM Closed-Flooding
Cox Ln Cox Ln from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut Hwy Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 10:00 AM Closed-Flooding
West Sacramento Ave West Sacramento Ave from Meridian Rd to River Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 5:00 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from Chico River Rd to Ord Ferry Rd Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Ord Ferry Rd Ord Ferry Rd from Seven Mile Ln to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 2:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Nelson Rd Nelson Rd from Seven Mile Ln to Aguas Frias Rd Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 1:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Afton Rd Afton Rd from Aguas Frias Rd to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Colusa HWY Colusa HWY from the Cherokee Canal to the Colusa County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from West Sacramento Ave to Chico River Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 2:45 PM Closed-Flooding
Durnel Dr Durnel Dr from Nelson Rd to Grainland Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 12:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut HWY Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 3:30 PM Closed-Flooding
Middle Honcut Rd Middle Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut HWY to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 6:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Stimpson Rd Stimpson Rd from Cox Ln to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 3:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from HWY 70 to Lone Tree Rd Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 8:45 AM Closed-Flooding
French Creek Rd Closed Seasonal Closure 12/29/2022, 9:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from the Jonesville Snow Park to the County line Closed Seasonal Closure Jonesville Snow Park gate is closed 12/14/2022, 8:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Skyway Skyway from Stirling City to Inskip Traffic Control Snow Chains Required R3 chain controls 12/1/2022, 7:00 AM Traffic Control-Snow Chains Required
Skyway Skyway from Inskip to Butte Meadows Closed Seasonal Closure 12/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Oro Quincy HWY Oro Quincy HWY from Mountain House to Plumas County Line Closed Seasonal Closure Closed through Spring due to snow 11/9/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Honey Run Rd Honey Run Rd from Paradise City Limits to Honey View Terrace Closed Other Closed per Town of Paradise 5/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from Stilson Canyon Rd & HWY 32 Closed Other Illegal Dumping & Illegal Activity 9/1/2020, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Dark Canyon Rd From Paiute Dr to Oroville Lake Closed Rocks and/or Mudslide 2/14/2019, 10:30 AM Closed-Rocks and/or Mudslide


Keep in mind, this NORMAL for this area these roads are closed every year when it rains.
 Quoting: Crunch62


You are soooooo full of shit. Some of those roads get closed every year but many on that list rarely, if ever, are closed in winter due to storms.

You even list Humboldt road down in Chico, which is not closed for anything related to a storm. You can't even review your own information? Isn't it time to take the foot out of your mouth?
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Here it is. Your judgement that the storm is nothing out of the ordinary based on which counties you (thought) were in a state of emergency. Your source was wrong or outdated and here you are again trying to defend being wrong. Pathetic.
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??? I don't see Butte (or many others) on that list.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Feigning stupidity is now your defense? Already posted a link showing Butte in a state of emergency. Maybe the stupidity isn't feigned?

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Not a county declared as emergency by the governor requesting federal aid (which is what I stated).

Reading comprehension. Learn it.
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Literally the only difference is that the governor declared the state of emergency for the counties you list while the board of supervisors declared an emergency for Butte. The logical conclusion is that you think Newscum is smarter than a local BOS.

Face it dude, you didn't know there was a state of emergency in Butte and you again look like an uninformed jackass trying to defend an untenable position. It really doesn't matter who declares the state of emergency. It's all towards the end of getting federal money to repair the storm damage. Take the foot out of your mouth.
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I'd like to see that list. But I suspect you are full of shit and making stuff up as you go.
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RoadName Location Status Reason Notes DateEffective lblStatus​-Reason x y
Lone Tree Rd Lone Tree Rd from Palermo Rd to Cox Ln Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 1:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Lower Honcut Rd Lower Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut Hwy to La Porte Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 11:00 AM Closed-Flooding
Cox Ln Cox Ln from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut Hwy Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 10:00 AM Closed-Flooding
West Sacramento Ave West Sacramento Ave from Meridian Rd to River Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 5:00 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from Chico River Rd to Ord Ferry Rd Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Ord Ferry Rd Ord Ferry Rd from Seven Mile Ln to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 2:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Nelson Rd Nelson Rd from Seven Mile Ln to Aguas Frias Rd Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 1:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Afton Rd Afton Rd from Aguas Frias Rd to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Colusa HWY Colusa HWY from the Cherokee Canal to the Colusa County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from West Sacramento Ave to Chico River Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 2:45 PM Closed-Flooding
Durnel Dr Durnel Dr from Nelson Rd to Grainland Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 12:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut HWY Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 3:30 PM Closed-Flooding
Middle Honcut Rd Middle Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut HWY to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 6:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Stimpson Rd Stimpson Rd from Cox Ln to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 3:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from HWY 70 to Lone Tree Rd Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 8:45 AM Closed-Flooding
French Creek Rd Closed Seasonal Closure 12/29/2022, 9:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from the Jonesville Snow Park to the County line Closed Seasonal Closure Jonesville Snow Park gate is closed 12/14/2022, 8:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Skyway Skyway from Stirling City to Inskip Traffic Control Snow Chains Required R3 chain controls 12/1/2022, 7:00 AM Traffic Control-Snow Chains Required
Skyway Skyway from Inskip to Butte Meadows Closed Seasonal Closure 12/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Oro Quincy HWY Oro Quincy HWY from Mountain House to Plumas County Line Closed Seasonal Closure Closed through Spring due to snow 11/9/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Honey Run Rd Honey Run Rd from Paradise City Limits to Honey View Terrace Closed Other Closed per Town of Paradise 5/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from Stilson Canyon Rd & HWY 32 Closed Other Illegal Dumping & Illegal Activity 9/1/2020, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Dark Canyon Rd From Paiute Dr to Oroville Lake Closed Rocks and/or Mudslide 2/14/2019, 10:30 AM Closed-Rocks and/or Mudslide


Keep in mind, this NORMAL for this area these roads are closed every year when it rains.
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You are soooooo full of shit. Some of those roads get closed every year but many on that list rarely, if ever, are closed in winter due to storms.

You even list Humboldt road down in Chico, which is not closed for anything related to a storm. You can't even review your own information? Isn't it time to take the foot out of your mouth?
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Sure, many are seasonal closures. Which means they happen every year. Others are closed due to flooding, which HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

Again, the road closures in Butte County currently are normal for this area during this time of year. The rainfall is normal for this time of year. There is no major flooding or mass evacuations going on currently. Rainfall is below seasonal average. There is no doom here currently.

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I'd like to see that list. But I suspect you are full of shit and making stuff up as you go.
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RoadName Location Status Reason Notes DateEffective lblStatus​-Reason x y
Lone Tree Rd Lone Tree Rd from Palermo Rd to Cox Ln Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 1:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Lower Honcut Rd Lower Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut Hwy to La Porte Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 11:00 AM Closed-Flooding
Cox Ln Cox Ln from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut Hwy Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 10:00 AM Closed-Flooding
West Sacramento Ave West Sacramento Ave from Meridian Rd to River Rd Closed Flooding 1/14/2023, 5:00 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from Chico River Rd to Ord Ferry Rd Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Ord Ferry Rd Ord Ferry Rd from Seven Mile Ln to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/13/2023, 7:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 2:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Nelson Rd Nelson Rd from Seven Mile Ln to Aguas Frias Rd Closed Flooding 1/12/2023, 1:15 PM Closed-Flooding
Afton Rd Afton Rd from Aguas Frias Rd to the Glenn County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Colusa HWY Colusa HWY from the Cherokee Canal to the Colusa County Line Closed Flooding 1/9/2023, 12:30 AM Closed-Flooding
River Rd River Rd from West Sacramento Ave to Chico River Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 2:45 PM Closed-Flooding
Durnel Dr Durnel Dr from Nelson Rd to Grainland Rd Closed Flooding 1/8/2023, 12:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from Lone Tree Rd to Palermo Honcut HWY Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 3:30 PM Closed-Flooding
Middle Honcut Rd Middle Honcut Rd from Palermo Honcut HWY to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/31/2022, 6:30 AM Closed-Flooding
Stimpson Rd Stimpson Rd from Cox Ln to HWY 70 Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 3:00 PM Closed-Flooding
Central House Rd Central House Rd from HWY 70 to Lone Tree Rd Closed Flooding 12/30/2022, 8:45 AM Closed-Flooding
French Creek Rd Closed Seasonal Closure 12/29/2022, 9:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from the Jonesville Snow Park to the County line Closed Seasonal Closure Jonesville Snow Park gate is closed 12/14/2022, 8:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Skyway Skyway from Stirling City to Inskip Traffic Control Snow Chains Required R3 chain controls 12/1/2022, 7:00 AM Traffic Control-Snow Chains Required
Skyway Skyway from Inskip to Butte Meadows Closed Seasonal Closure 12/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Oro Quincy HWY Oro Quincy HWY from Mountain House to Plumas County Line Closed Seasonal Closure Closed through Spring due to snow 11/9/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Seasonal Closure
Honey Run Rd Honey Run Rd from Paradise City Limits to Honey View Terrace Closed Other Closed per Town of Paradise 5/1/2022, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Humboldt Rd Humboldt Rd from Stilson Canyon Rd & HWY 32 Closed Other Illegal Dumping & Illegal Activity 9/1/2020, 12:00 AM Closed-Other
Dark Canyon Rd From Paiute Dr to Oroville Lake Closed Rocks and/or Mudslide 2/14/2019, 10:30 AM Closed-Rocks and/or Mudslide


Keep in mind, this NORMAL for this area these roads are closed every year when it rains.
 Quoting: Crunch62


You are soooooo full of shit. Some of those roads get closed every year but many on that list rarely, if ever, are closed in winter due to storms.

You even list Humboldt road down in Chico, which is not closed for anything related to a storm. You can't even review your own information? Isn't it time to take the foot out of your mouth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82611190


Sure, many are seasonal closures. Which means they happen every year. Others are closed due to flooding, which HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

Again, the road closures in Butte County currently are normal for this area during this time of year. The rainfall is normal for this time of year. There is no major flooding or mass evacuations going on currently. Rainfall is below seasonal average. There is no doom here currently.

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STFU, parrot.
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Now I know you know jack about the local area. Some of those roads close every year even with little rainfall but some of them rarely, if ever, are closed during storms.

Butte is in a state of emergency. You lose. You must like the taste of your foot.
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776.40 NO INFLOWZ YET. UH.
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5.4 FEET IN 18 HRS. IS THAT WHAT WE R LOOKIN AT?!
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MIGHT END UP WITH A 7 FOOT DAY?!
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777.15

INFLOWS DROPPED 29,457
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6.15 FEET IN 21 HRS.
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777.42

30,760
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IT TURNED 1.5 MIL. @10AM PST ON THE 7TH. CRUNCH, THIS IS GOING
TO BE A FAST HALF MIL. !!!
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1.94 NOW. WILL END UP BEING 8.5 DAYS-ISH.
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Yeah, watching the inflow.

Concern is a warm storm and rapid smowmelt.
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MIGHT END UP BEING RIGHT ON 9 DAYS! TEMPS DO GO UP SHOON AN

RAIN IS THERE FOR UH FEW MOAR DAYS. I SAY WE R ALL FUCT. UH
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777.67

32,019
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6.67 ft. in 23 hrs...GONNUH B SOOO CLOSE TO 7 FT. HAS THERE UH
BEEN A 10 FT UH DAY OR EVEN HIGHER ONE CRUNCH? U MUST KNOW THE
RECORD
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6.67 ft. in 23 hrs...GONNUH B SOOO CLOSE TO 7 FT. HAS THERE UH
BEEN A 10 FT UH DAY OR EVEN HIGHER ONE CRUNCH? U MUST KNOW THE
RECORD
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Between Feb 13 to Feb 14 2019 Lake Oroville rose close to 9.5 feet
Feb 13 it started at 741.97 then on Feb 14 it was 751.40
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6.67 ft. in 23 hrs...GONNUH B SOOO CLOSE TO 7 FT. HAS THERE UH
BEEN A 10 FT UH DAY OR EVEN HIGHER ONE CRUNCH? U MUST KNOW THE
RECORD
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Between Feb 13 to Feb 14 2019 Lake Oroville rose close to 9.5 feet
Feb 13 it started at 741.97 then on Feb 14 it was 751.40
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YES! THANK YOU. SOMEONE COMES ACROSS WITH THE RECORD. I SAY IT
IS ALL BAD FOR THAT MUCH WEIGHT AND PRESSURE TO GO AGAINST IT
AND THE INTERNAL 'SEEPAGE' THAT MUST BE GOING ON AND THE AREAS
WHERE THERE USED TO BE WATER INSIDE BUT..DRAINED OUT DURING THE DROUGHT AND LOW 600 LEVELS...IT IS A BRITTLE DAM. JUST UH
GONNA BREACH.. THEY NEED TO DUMP ASAP AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. IT
IS NOT FIT FOR ANYTHING NEAR 800 FEET. DOOM BITCHES. ACCEPT IT
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I wonder what the elevation gains were in 1986 and 1997 when the inflow was well over 150K CFS.

Im sure it is out there somewhere. Busy now, will look later.
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777.92!
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777.92!
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31,380

let U.S. CALL IT A 7 FOOT DAY! 6.92 FEET!
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