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Need Help with Sick Cat

 
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08/01/2017 12:17 PM
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Feed him Royal Canin Urinary SO for cats will help dissolve stones, the vet needs to give you a prescription for it. Make sure he is drinking enough and give him a little apple cider vinegar. If he isn't urinating you will need to take him back to the vet asap.
 Quoting: TwoPlusTwins


FYI I fed the urinary SO for about 4 years after a surgery to remove uroliths and the damn crystals still came back, switched him to the CD stress and so far so good, also pay close attention to the size of the urine balls, it's an emergency if the bladder is full and blocked.
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Friends,
If anyone has a helpful suggestion, I would appreciate it!

Long story short: I have a 2 1/2 yr old cat w/UTI. Found this out after he quit using the litter box and I took him to the vet after July 4th week-end (just to let you know how long this has been going on).

In the meantime, he's now on his second round of antibiotics since he could still see evidence of infection. Also saw crystals in his urine on second blood test, He's talking about possibly surgery. Well, we'll see about that!

Well, while we're treating for the UTI, now he's still urinating everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE - except the litter box! So in self-defense, I put him in a dog crate - with a litter box when he wakes for about an hour so he HAS to use the litter box (and not my furniture/clothes/anywhere else he deems convenient).

So, my kitty friends, here's where I need your help:
Since putting him in the crate, I'm watching him trying, trying to urinate. He seems NOT able to "go" much now, and is meowing, as if in pain. I think he's trying to pass those pesky "crystals/stones!" All that's passing is a few drops at a time.

I'm wondering if it's necessary to take him back to the vet before his regular scheduled appointment (next week), or if anyone has a suggestion of something I can give him that will help him pass the crystals?

Thanks to those who will write to help. And to those who can't resist the urge to suggest I just make some "cat soup," save your strength.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Yes, he can die from the crystals blocking him. If he is struggling, don't wait!

Is he on a low magnesium food? Hills science diet CD is what you need. We have a cat with the same issue. IF we feed him anything but the CD food, the problem returns.

Science Diet SD should be the first round. IT helps dissolve the stones. Then switch to CD for maintenance.
 Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez


tbh, Rick and ac, I'm NOT a big fan of Science Diet. It's made by Monsanto, you know?

Anyway, I'll try it, if it makes my little guy better, tho.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


I understand. We tried other kinds but the crystals came back, so we are back with the monsatan stuff. But at least it works.
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Take him to the vet ASAP! He's suffering in pain, you can't wait a week! UTI is very painful, and it could be something else!!!!!!! Get him to the animal hospital today!
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Friends,
If anyone has a helpful suggestion, I would appreciate it!

Long story short: I have a 2 1/2 yr old cat w/UTI. Found this out after he quit using the litter box and I took him to the vet after July 4th week-end (just to let you know how long this has been going on).

In the meantime, he's now on his second round of antibiotics since he could still see evidence of infection. Also saw crystals in his urine on second blood test, He's talking about possibly surgery. Well, we'll see about that!

Well, while we're treating for the UTI, now he's still urinating everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE - except the litter box! So in self-defense, I put him in a dog crate - with a litter box when he wakes for about an hour so he HAS to use the litter box (and not my furniture/clothes/anywhere else he deems convenient).

So, my kitty friends, here's where I need your help:
Since putting him in the crate, I'm watching him trying, trying to urinate. He seems NOT able to "go" much now, and is meowing, as if in pain. I think he's trying to pass those pesky "crystals/stones!" All that's passing is a few drops at a time.

I'm wondering if it's necessary to take him back to the vet before his regular scheduled appointment (next week), or if anyone has a suggestion of something I can give him that will help him pass the crystals?

Thanks to those who will write to help. And to those who can't resist the urge to suggest I just make some "cat soup," save your strength.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Yes, he can die from the crystals blocking him. If he is struggling, don't wait!

Is he on a low magnesium food? Hills science diet CD is what you need. We have a cat with the same issue. IF we feed him anything but the CD food, the problem returns.

Science Diet SD should be the first round. IT helps dissolve the stones. Then switch to CD for maintenance.
 Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez


tbh, Rick and ac, I'm NOT a big fan of Science Diet. It's made by Monsanto, you know?

Anyway, I'll try it, if it makes my little guy better, tho.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


I understand. We tried other kinds but the crystals came back, so we are back with the monsatan stuff. But at least it works.
 Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez


Same here, that expensive Monsanto food has kept the vet from collecting another 800$ for urolith surgery and cat is living pain free...if there's something more natural or homeopathic that works as good who's selling it?
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TAke him to a regional animal medical learning surgery center. Vets are retards who take your money.
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TAke him to a regional animal medical learning surgery center. Vets are retards who take your money.
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Don't know where there's one within a couple hundred miles of us....
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B  (OP)

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I had the same problem.

First, I used NOW product for UTI's for pets. I used 1/4 pill dissolved in filtered hot water and added to wet food.

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Second, I took away all dry food. I would serve my cat about several times a week, canned in water tuna. I would add additional water and the dissolved UTI pill.

Also fed my cat paté grain free foods stirred in ample water.

Third, cleaned floors even tiled floors. And put down Nature's miracle and let dry. And put new styled kitty litter boxes out.

Fourth, this is very important. These are my new styled kitty litter boxes. I put cut down boxes with no more than one cup of kitty litter. My cat used these boxes with about two inch sides. My cat must have disliked the deep kitty litter in boxes. My cat must have disliked the plastic liner I used in the deep kitty litter boxes as well. I have these boxes in my laundry room, two bathrooms and on patio. After one or two urine uses, just throw the box away. The cat uses these boxes.

Fifth, we have a porcelain multi tiered drinking fountain that is filled with filtered refrigerator water. My animals do not like the reverse osmosis filtered water. It hold nearly a gallon of water. The plastic ones smell. Yes, these are pricey but I have had mine 5 years. The cat drinks from it, I happy about that. [link to www.chewy.com (secure)]

UTI in cats have to do with the PH of their urine, too much dry food & not enough water. Their urine needs to be slightly acidic. Adding about 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda to their drinking water will help as well.
 Quoting: Carina24


Thank you, Carina! I love all those suggestions.

I did throw away ALL litter boxes when he got so sick, and replaced them, but of course, they were still the plastic ones we use (tall - like tote boxes, with one side cut down so they can step in), as we have one boy who likes to STAND and spray as he uses it! We were finding urine all down the wall BEHIND the box and not in it. No more problems with that! But the plastic DOES get "stinky" after awhile, so we decided to replace EVERYTHING - I'm still not sure why he was urinating outside the box after the first round of antibiotics, and I could tell he was feeling better.

Now, today (from late yesterday) he's having trouble going....he is clearing having a hard time going - almost can see him straining. This after spending SEVERAL DAYS urinating on everything everywhere.

He'll see the vet in about 2 hours....

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UTI blockages are common in male cats due to diet alone( specifically dry kibble with non meat ingredients), pure meat eaters have a hard time digesting anything but meat. If it's totally blocked it can be fatal( sound like its urinating so good). I worked at a vet hospital in the late 80's early 90's, AFTER the blockage has been addressed you will need to change the brand of
dry kibble you feed him, as someone stated above they now make a dry kibble exclusively for this, you will need to give him a high acidic canned food daily for a couple weeks usual the liver kidney mix of chicken or beef is what the Vet would recommend, then once its better at least 2 times a week for the canned product.
good luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46203780


I meant to address this, too. My cats are VERY finicky, and DO NOT like "wet" food, such as canned. It would sit and sit and dry out and turn to crust before they'd touch it! I will have to look into the specific dry kibble suggested, tho.

BTW - he has an appointment to see the vet this afternoon (soonest they could fit him in). I wasn't thinking it was a good idea to feed him (HOPING he doesn't need emergency surgery....), but he seems to have settled down since I gave him something. It's a "gravy" thing? I have a few packages of it left from an OLD, OLD cat we had who died a few months back. It's very expensive, so I don't want to have to make it a permanent food (there are 6 cats here!), but I gave it to him as a treat, and I'm glad he ate it. He literally licked the bowl so clean you could use it again! I guess he was hungry! I hope he doesn't need surgery later, as I probably shouldn't have fed him, but he seemed so pitiful, and I knew he hadn't eaten. Gave himself a bath and sleeping now. At least he's not straining to go for awhile now.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B

The finicky part is why the vet would suggest the liver/kidney wet food..as most cats will go for it...most....
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B  (OP)

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Just back from the vet. He said it's kind of "normal" to be uncomfortable. He palpated his bladder and said it seemed "thick," but not enlarged, so I guess he's "going," somewhat.

He gave us some anti-inflammatory meds and a pain killer of sorts.
Deplorable NO MORE Michele B  (OP)

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I guess this is a longer process than I wanted it to be.

I just thought by the time we got to a SECOND ROUND of antibiotics, he should be on the mend somewhat.





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