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Hey sandman,

How much would those fine gentleman need to be paid to go have a polite little chat with omar the brotherfucker?

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Might ask a clerk or manager next time you see one. Very curious.

Had the joy of a trip to CostCo today. I don't usually get to shop there, and didn't hit all the food aisles by any means, but everywhere I did look was well-stocked, from dog food to coffee to the incredible blueberry muffins. Should have taken the time to check canned veggie area, but didn't. If I have the privilege again, will try to remember that area.

If you've never gotten the blueberry muffins - and there are other flavors as well, blueberry is the best - do check them out. Blueberries the size of the end of your thumb! They are heavenly!

Upper Midwest here. My apples that normally ripen the 1st week of August are finally ripening (2nd week of September). There are very few apples this year because there were very few blossoms due to the weird spring.

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Suspicious Observers SO, Have some very informative, I listen every morning!

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I hope this shows up. Take a look at how food had increased greatly--imagine what will happen when the truth re this years crops finally is revealed.

The link is only to the graph. Food at the top. Scary

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Hey MC,
I garden too. I was told that corn can get inbred pretty quick if you are saving seed from a small harvest. Any chance your poor harvest may be from saving seed from a limited gene pool over a few years?

Any chance your poor harvest may be from saving seed from a limited gene pool over a few years?

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Ya know, it looks like it this year...but I planted this exact same seed from the exact same year 2 years ago...and it turned out great.

I didn't use the newer seed this year.

I always try to pick a seed or 2 off of 70-80 different ears when I plant...I do the best I can to avoid inbreeding.

Hopefully its just an off year then and that's all. Sorry about the poor harvest. Just curious - what variety do you like to grow?
70-80 different ears?! Wow, you must have an amazing garden!!

Not a report...just a little comic relief :D

I went back to the store today for a few items I forgot yesterday...it must have been old folks day at the grocery store.

There was almost nobody in the store...but every person there was conspiring to get in my way...and then STOP!

There was one old man in the entire aisle I get my coffee...and wouldn't you know it...he was parked for the duration right infront of the item I wanted...I finally just reached over his cart to grab my coffee while he raised his eyes from his label reading to give me a dirty look.

Another 4 old folks blocking the center of the aisle having a conversation...I just skipped that aisle.

Finally get back to my truck to GTFO of there and here they all come & stand right infront of my truck so I can't leave :D

Then another old fogy almost wiped them all out when slowly driving by...that's when they finally dispersed & I was able to drive away

Just curious - what variety do you like to grow?

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It's heirloom flour corn (white)...Flour corn has a high starch content so you can dry it out & grind it into flour.

I got it from "Bountiful gardens" many years ago.

When I was growing up in West Virginia there was an extremely local variety of white corn that made the best cornbread that you've ever tasted in your life. Just as I left I heard that the variety had been picked up by a national distributor, wonder if it's the same that you have? Never heard a variety name, everyone just called it white corn.

Never heard a variety name, everyone just called it white corn.

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I should actually try to cook/bake with it some time...all I've ever done is grow it to save the seed :)

I never actually smoked any of the tobacco I've grown either. But it sure did attract humming birds!

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If you have what I think you have, it's a singular pleasure to try cooking with. Like I said, cornbread will never be the same after trying the white corn.

I would like to try growing tobacco but for all practical purposes it is worse than marijuana. My employer actually tests for nicotine in the pre-employment drug screening. Maybe one day when I work for someone sane or I've retired.

When I lived in North Carolina we had fields of tobacco growing, a lot of people that I knew there had their first job working in those fields much like my first job was working hay fields.

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I kinda mentioned this in another thread but thought this is where it really belonged.

The fields around me are showing signs of approaching harvest. The corn is drying out, there are soybeans that are yellowing in the field, I'm smelling grapes in the evening. For our local farmers the time of reckoning is approaching. Should be interesting.

We've been having rain lately which is what I worried the most about. It delays harvest and wet crops have to be dried which brings the cost up. I think that it's still too early to tell how the weather will drive costs but so far it's not the best news.

We just had a light rain for the last 2 days...some of my hopps have turned brown.

I didn't intend to harvest them anyway...I don't know anybody who makes beer.

They already work for the DNC!



Two of them killed Seth Rich, 24 hrs latter to be found shot in the head with the murder weapon!


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*blink* You grow hops too? Much respect! I had hoped to start some hops this year but never got around to it! If I can get everything else squared away, maybe I will put this aside for next year. They are supposed to be very good as sachets under the pillow to enable good sleep.

Hops DO smell good.

My uncle frank dug up some roots while working...he mailed them to my mom & she gave them to me. Now I have them spreading all over my back yard.

The fence around my back yard has 3 competing vines trying to take over the planet...Hops, Ivy, and concord grapes :D

We should update our fuel now, After the thing in ME oil plant attacked!

So Gas 1-2 yrs storage? I have like 80gals most are 6 months a few little older close to 1 yr.

Propane i think it stays good a very long time!
So i converted a generator!
RV all appliances run on it, Got a kit to connect the RV to a bigger bottles.
And have added several 20s and 40lb bottles for storage.

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My hops died during a transition here - had to leave all my plants and trees with someone for over a year and God bless him he saved a lot, but underwatered and I lost a lot of things from a weeping willow tree to my hops. I live in WA state where it is no longer legal to purchase hops - so my loss is really, really my loss!

Happy for those of you who are blessed to be growing hops still.

Beer is far from the only reason to grow them - please use a search engine and see all the uses!

First, I would suggest making pillows out of the dried blossoms for people you know who suffer from insomnia. Hops as a pillow are said to be a cure for this.

Check out all the other uses.

Sandman1, you are amazing - you have prepped so well, and have such talents and abilities - you are wise and fortunate and blessed!

Wish I had a quarter of your well-planned survival!

The only gas I have is whatever is in my tank at the time. I try not to let it get below half, and recently I prefer a quarter.

Have perhaps ten small bottles of butane for my only source of cooking and water boiling in a grid down situation.

I hope to purchase a Mr. Buddy heater for our only source of heat in absence of power. I have two forty-lb tanks for propane, one a quarter full and one a bit more, so they both need to be filled when I can. I will attach one to the heater and go for it - I'll paint the connections with soapy water to check them prior to use. All in the future, obviously.

I've put effort into purchasing foods which will only require hot water to prepare, and purchased a two-quart steel thermos to "cook" foods over night in hot water, such as oatmeal. I did get a couple bags of beans and of rice, but hope not to have to expend the butane to cook them. I wonder how much cooking would be accomplished overnight of beans in the thermos?

Congratulations again, Sandman1, for all you have done!

Hope you read my post about hops- don't let them go to waste if they are not yet ruined. Pick and dry. Search on all the uses. I'm very happy for you that you have hops plants! Very fortunate!

How is it now in your area? Has harvest been done? Were any crops productive?

Lucky you smelling grapes! I'd be making some fine grape jelly there!

Food is not looking good, still. I don't think our early concerns were wasted as no good news has arrived to change our concerns.

I certainly hope everyone who has participated in this thread,or even just read it without posting, has gotten in good stocks of food, and are prepared for the cold, hungry winters that are staring us down right now.

I continue picking up a few things as I can. Today I found pre-cooked Barilla macaroni in the Dollar Tree, oddly. When I look in stores for the "good" spam, like roast beef, it's always gone. Did find one can of turkey spam today. Remember to consider tastebud boredom and have on hand things you can prepare for meals that will surprise and be a treat for your family. Beans and rice need to have occasional interruptions with something more tasty. A few deserts will also go well to keep the family happy. I have a couple cans of cocoa powder, intending to use it for relief of my sweet tooth which will certainly ache when not having sweets daily! LOL

Keep preparing as best you can, people. Remember heirloom seeds will be so necessary - we have to be able to grow all that we can.

May the Good Lord bless and keep each one of us in the future that is bearing down on us.

Pooka, get a pressure cooker. Cheap. Can cook beans in 25 minutes.

That is probably great advice, but I am frankly afraid of them. I remember my grandmother having trouble with hers,even though that was so many years with no doubt a type that had to be watched constantly to avoid explosion.

Hope you read my post about hops- don't let them go to waste if they are not yet ruined. Pick and dry. Search on all the uses. I'm very happy for you that you have hops plants! Very fortunate!

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Holy carp! THANKS POOKA!

I had no idea.

Hops are also used in brewing for their antibacterial effect over less desirable microorganisms

Hops may be used in herbal medicine in a way similar to valerian, as a treatment for anxiety, restlessness, and insomnia.[51] A pillow filled with hops is a popular folk remedy for sleeplessness, and animal research has shown a sedative effect.

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Here I am growing all these hops and I have no clue about all the uses for them

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