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Millions have declared their own selves saved, by the grace of God. Hmm.... are their names really in the Book of Life?

 
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17

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Matthew 24:13 "But the one who endures to the end will be saved."

Grace can be lost, you can walk off the narrow path. It's no easy road.
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Matthew 24:13 "But the one who endures to the end will be saved."

Grace can be lost, you can walk off the narrow path. It's no easy road.
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But what about "once saved always saved", very popular?
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
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Stick to the Four Gospels of "The Christ Jesus", he declares....

"My yoke is easy and my burden is light."

"You can do nothing without me"

Let Him lead us as we ask Him, not you are your continued weights you heap on JW followers.

Tell me what acts can I preform to be "Born Again" of the Spirit?

List them so people can act for a reward.

Jesus said, "don't get top excited, they only came for the food."
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Jesus said "I came to serve, not to be served"
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The 'Good News' is about how mankind's disconnection from God can be reestablished thru that one man Jesus Christ and His Way. We fell from grace through Adam and we arise through Jesus Christ. The Good News is about 'The Way' of Jesus Christ or how to live here now and how to get ready for life there later.

The Good Lord Jesus Christ's works as witnessed, are 4 books out of 66 that make up the modern Bible. Those 4 books only 120 pages in length are titled Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are also called the Gospel of Jesus Christ, 'The Truth' or 'The Good News' aka The Owner's Manual To These Flesh Suits we drive until we leave them for home by God's Grace via Jesus Christ's sacrifice.

Jesus Christ's philosophy or Way was handed to him from his Father, our Father....the God of All Creations. It is a philosophy of grace...it is not a performance based philosophy....you can do nothing but accept it as a gift of God's grace.

Become FREE for FREE==> [link to www.e-sword.net (secure)] Download an additional bible called the GNB or Good News Bible (it is in everyday easy English) for easy reading. Included are commentaries on each passage to help with difficult areas. The Lord desires to develop a personal relationship as a parent to child, brother to brother and brother to sister with us.

I do know the LARGE ORGANISED RELIGIONS are all wrong. It is more of a control mechanism over the human race. If parishioners actually read the Lord's words, they would not go to the LARGE ORGANISED RELIGIONS.
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You just cant have faith if you are not striving to get better. You will fail and you will get up. It is an intent. Your future, present, past sins are forgiven through his blood
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
 Quoting: DGN


Stick to the Four Gospels of "The Christ Jesus", he declares....

"My yoke is easy and my burden is light."

"You can do nothing without me"

Let Him lead us as we ask Him, not you are your continued weights you heap on JW followers.

Tell me what acts can I preform to be "Born Again" of the Spirit?

List them so people can act for a reward.

Jesus said, "don't get top excited, they only came for the food."
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"your continued weights you heap on JW followers."
Like sharing free bible studies?
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
 Quoting: DGN


Stick to the Four Gospels of "The Christ Jesus", he declares....

"My yoke is easy and my burden is light."

"You can do nothing without me"

Let Him lead us as we ask Him, not you are your continued weights you heap on JW followers.

Tell me what acts can I preform to be "Born Again" of the Spirit?

List them so people can act for a reward.

Jesus said, "don't get top excited, they only came for the food."
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"your continued weights you heap on JW followers."
Like sharing free bible studies?
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Oh, is that all? Your rules are your downfall. Competition for 144,000 slots is ANTI-CHRIST speak. Your denial is your best friend.
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
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Sobering post. It convicts me immediately: we need to start tithing again.
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
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Sobering post. It convicts me immediately: we need to start tithing again.
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Tithing? Explain how that works for all of us, please.
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How do you knoww God wasnt speaking through them when they announced themselves saved?


You dont know, so you cant judge them for it
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... and does Yeshua HaMashiach have any role in salvation? ...
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I signed a soul contract with the Lords of Karma. hf
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Their names are listed in The Book of The Lamb.
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How do you knoww God wasnt speaking through them when they announced themselves saved?


You dont know, so you cant judge them for it
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“Therefore, whatever you wish men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Torah and the Prophets. “Enter in through the narrow gate! Because the gate is wide – and the way is broad – that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter in through it. “Because the gate is narrow and the way is hard pressed which leads to life, and there are few who find it. “But beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are savage wolves. “By their fruits you shall know them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles? “So every good tree yields good fruit, but a rotten tree yields wicked fruit. “A good tree is unable to yield wicked fruit, and a rotten tree to yield good fruit. “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. “So then, by their fruits you shall know them – “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’ “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock,
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And he cried with a mighty voice, saying, “Babel the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a haunt for every unclean spirit, and a haunt for every unclean and hated bird, because all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her whoring, and the sovereigns of the earth have committed whoring with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the power of her riotous living.” And I heard another voice from the heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
Hazon (Revelation) 18:2-4
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“Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’
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12 So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
 Quoting: DGN


Stick to the Four Gospels of "The Christ Jesus", he declares....

"My yoke is easy and my burden is light."

"You can do nothing without me"

Let Him lead us as we ask Him, not you are your continued weights you heap on JW followers.

Tell me what acts can I preform to be "Born Again" of the Spirit?

List them so people can act for a reward.

Jesus said, "don't get top excited, they only came for the food."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71388910


"your continued weights you heap on JW followers."
Like sharing free bible studies?
 Quoting: DGN


Oh, is that all? Your rules are your downfall. Competition for 144,000 slots is ANTI-CHRIST speak. Your denial is your best friend.
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Competition? Proclaiming Christ's invitation is ANTI CHRIST? Is someone keeping time on the COO COO clock?

"All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him. Come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. ;Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for yourselves. For my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.” Mt11:27

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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
 Quoting: DGN


God the Father DECLARES who is saved. The above reference scripture does not say NOT SAVED BY GRACE nor does it say WORKS ARE REQUIRED for salvation.

It says your works are proof of your faith.

Romans 11:6

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.


Galatians 5:4 (KJV)

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Nowhere in the bible does it say you are saved by works. No where!
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You people don’t even know WHAT salvation is, much less who it pertains to.
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Merciful God.

Where? Really? Nice phrase, like Honest Politician.

Sick of it.
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Merciful God.

Where? Really? Nice phrase, like Honest Politician.

Sick of it.
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Reality is your mind


So, you see


What you WANT to see. You dont WANT to see a merciful God, so ypu literally dont.
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Doesn't much matter about "them", when get right down to it; does it???

Of course the OP does stir the shit with about every post he/she makes here.


There IS a difference between being "saved" and Being Born-Again (per Ezekiel 36:26-27). KNOWING you've Been In and With The Father when making your surrender rather removes ALL Doubt.

Of course, the shit-stirrer has no Knowledge, but does stir it up...


Think "The Book Of Life" matters? It doesn't!
KNOWING God Personally and Directly and LIVING Through HIS Transformational "New Heart Of Flesh" does enable the Born-Again Christian to live without fear or anxiety.

God's Will IS Always Perfect!
Living In HIS Accord, you KNOW; not like you are still consumed by self-will and self-interest...


This IS The Laodicean church age. Christianity is not about Christ Jesus, but rather HIS Father's Love for HIS Creation and HIS Son's Honor For HIS Father's Will. There's no having a Relationship with Christ without having First Come Unto The Father and Being Born-Again.



God's Grace and Mercy are infinite. I was Given To Know This By God The Holy Spirit: "Anyone who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True heart, even if only as a child, will Not be lost or condemned."


If you don't have enough heart to Take Action and Manifest your faith by Coming Unto The Father, but have Loved Christ With A True Heart; my guess is that in Christ's thousand year eartly reign, there will be a New Way for those who failed to Take Action to Come Unto The Father.


As to the "Faith w/o works is dead" Witness; what it means is that if you cannot Trust God Fully and Take Action By Coming Unto HIM In Surrender, your faith means nothing.


I will also witness to you that until you are Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, there's no way for you to "understand" God's Truth via The Scripture.

Those who seek "proof" don't have the Trust and Love For The Father to make their surrender. God isn't seeking those with a sharp mind, but rather those with a True Heart enabled to Trust HIM Fully and Completely.

Can't Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life, then you'll never take your Leap Of Faith...

It's ALL about Heart and your recognition that only Through God The Father does life have any meaning.


Maranatha!!!
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A little more Witness for you 2nd Tim 2:15 "study unto the approval of God" hardheads....

From Matthew ch 13:

10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, "Why speakest thou unto them in parables?"

11. He answered and said unto them, "Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them."


Seeking with your head, or with your heart????

Heart is what matters...
That and Having Been Given Knowledge BY The Father Of WHO Christ Jesus IS:

From Matt ch 16:

13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, "Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?"

14. And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15. He saith unto them, "But whom say ye that I am?"

16. And Simon Peter answered and said, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."


17. And Jesus answered and said unto him, "Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

20. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.


Christ Jesus Was Manifested Into This Life in order that Those Whom Father-God Called To Live With HIM in Personal and Direct Relationship could have their sins Forgiven and Come Into The Presence of Father-God when they Made Their Surrender of self.


There's no Knowing until you've Been In HIS Presence and Given HIM Your All....


Not much longer now....



Maranatha!!!
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SO TRUE!!! You are absolutely correct DGN!
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
 Quoting: DGN


Exactly!

I can't understand how people can sit there and claim that you don't have to do anything..you don't have to behave in a Christian way,you don't have to be righteous to be able to be saved...that you just have to believe.

That's ridiculous and it is contrary to what God's word the Bible says.
The Bible says the even the demons believe,they have faith,they know God,they believe in God.

Are they going to be saved?!

NO!!!

People need to stop and think before they believe what these false teachers in these false religions teach them - that they just have to believe and be saved. Wrong!!! It's as if they say that you could do wicked works and still receive the same gift of life that God gives righteous ones.

That is simply not true!!

God rewards those who are obedient to him, and the ones that are willfully disobedient will be destroyed.


That is justice!
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
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Yeah, in pencil. And St.Peter no longer sits there with the book and quill and ink in hand. No, instead he's got an eraser.
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Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If any brothers or sisters are lacking clothing and enough food for the day, 16 yet one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but you do not give them what they need for their body, of what benefit is it? 17 So, too, faith by itself, without works, is dead. Ja2:17
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Sobering post. It convicts me immediately: we need to start tithing again.
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Why would you tithe if you saw a brother or sister in need. Just give it to them. If you give it to the greedy preacher they will buy another plane, or another mansion. Maybe they need a new car. You can bet your bottom dollar the lousy preacher wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone.
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Gotta love "church" at GLP.

All full of fundamentalist inaccuracies, personal beliefs, biases and mistakes.





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