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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76461169 United States 08/14/2019 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74909136 Trade Deals Must Be Fixed. USA was getting ripped off! Breitbart has the story/ stats. They guy that’s trashing the tarries is part of a huge conglomerate that owns restaurants in DC. He’s a paid off shill. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77777813 United States 08/14/2019 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bbbbbut bbbut the soybean farmers who lost their Chinese buyers!!!! Oh Noz Tariffs!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77777813 lol They are focusing on the other: 43%. USA is in a great position to bargain. The USA is an economic superpower. I know Trump knows what he's doing. It's all the people who glammed on to transnationalism who are screeching. Selling out America was a great career move for fake pols Then Trump proved that you don't have to be a pol to get the job done. |
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Truth 123 User ID: 77747381 United States 08/14/2019 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In this age we live in we expect instant results. It took us decades to go down the toilet as we have. It is not going to be solved in a day, a week, a month, etc. Yes, there may be pain but what is the alternative? To continue going down the drain? This country and its people used to understand sacrifice. Look to the Great Depression and the WWII years. We were tough. It is now a time of sacrifice again. If we continue this path we will come out in good shape. |
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User ID: 75847956 United States 08/18/2019 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fixing the trade deals has got to be done. Fixing agriculture in the US also has GOT to be done. Since the 50's it's been "get big or get out". And that really isn't good for the food supply, consumers or farmers. But Trump is pushing GMO with less restrictions than are already present. It seriously bothers me that he doesn't understand agriculture and that he put a mega ag wonk as Sec of Ag. Different topic, I know, but if he could be educated on agriculture, it would really help. He DOES understand how screwed we have been with these WTO trade deals. And I support what he is doing. Also, China is losing a ton of crops, so whatever. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
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User ID: 76416551 United States 08/18/2019 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a legitimate war, the people have to give to the effort in order for it to succeed. And farmers have always supported that. The timing of the tariffs is especially bad though because of the beating farmers have taken in the mid west because of the flooding. Many farms are heavily in debt and were depending on this year's crop. For those farmers who were able to harvest a crop, the prices are sagging. This is not a good time for the American farmer. Last Edited by Horticulture on 08/18/2019 01:25 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77928693 Germany 08/18/2019 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh really? In ten years you'll be lucky if you're not in a deep depression and off to war due to tariff's. It's quite telling that none of you that support the idiotic Trump rhetoric and policies actually study history: HOW TARIFFS BANKRUPTED AMERICA Of particular relevance to these tariff discussions was Hoover’s signing of the Smoot-Hawley tariff into law in 1930. Authored by Senators Reed Smoot and Willis Hawley, it raised tariffs on over 20,000 goods, raising the average rate to roughly 40 percent. After Smoot-Hawley’s passage, countries like Canada and Italy retaliated in kind with their very own punitive tariffs on American goods. This set off a domino effect of trade wars across the globe that resulted in a 66 percent decline in total world trade from 1929 to 1934. Not only did this trade-war environment exacerbate the already lackadaisical conditions of the Great Depression, it fueled the irrational despotism and militarism that preceded the outbreak of World War II. [link to www.aier.org (secure)] So what are they waiting for exactly? Trump to pull a Roosevelt and confiscate all the Gold while enacting more socialist policies and shuffling their children off to war due to the failure of the Tariffs? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77928693 Germany 08/18/2019 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74909136 Trade Deals Must Be Fixed. USA was getting ripped off! Breitbart has the story/ stats. Link to your stats? It's probably B.S statistics. Even if true, I guess farmers don't care because Trump is enacting SOCIALIST policies to redistribute the wealth and bail them out from the failures of his policies. |
ANNONYMOUS User ID: 66223473 United States 08/18/2019 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bbbbbut bbbut the soybean farmers who lost their Chinese buyers!!!! Oh Noz Tariffs!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77777813 lol They are focusing on the other: 43%. USA is in a great position to bargain. The USA is an economic superpower. Such a great position that they are falling at our feet right? You are purely delusional if you think for one minute that the farmers are not being irreparably harmed right now and probably years into the future. There is no doubt that there are and were trade practices that were not beneficial to us but the current practice is not the way to clear the air that is so obvious only those who are IGNORANT continue to claim otherwise!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75153819 Netherlands 08/18/2019 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bbbbbut bbbut the soybean farmers who lost their Chinese buyers!!!! Oh Noz Tariffs!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77777813 lol They are focusing on the other: 43%. USA is in a great position to bargain. The USA is an economic superpower. Such a great position that they are falling at our feet right? You are purely delusional if you think for one minute that the farmers are not being irreparably harmed right now and probably years into the future. There is no doubt that there are and were trade practices that were not beneficial to us but the current practice is not the way to clear the air that is so obvious only those who are IGNORANT continue to claim otherwise!! Yes irreparably damaged. Trump maybe targetting CHina right now. So China will forever sources it's need from multiple sources to prevent this from happening again, at least China will reduce and even eliminate buying from US farmers and will develop farming in Africa or somewhere else and even their own to source it's need. Other countries will also be very careful in buying American farm produces (and other American products) considering the possibility of getting boycotted or tarrif-ed like China. It's a risk dealing with America. So, For now, most countries will try to steer themselves off from depending on American products. And this trade war will only isolate America. Ans when no one wants American products, it's the start of Ameericans going downhill and seeking for another war to start it's economy through war industry. But Americans will risk mutual assured destruction. And this time around, America will assure it's own total destruction when swarm of nukes rain down on USA from every other nuke capable countries. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75153819 Netherlands 08/18/2019 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For tariff to work, America should go commie, be a socialist country with a close door policy. Trade deficit is something that normally happens due to each country having different resources and capabilities. All of you who buy things from your retailers have a 100% trade deficit with your retailers, but none of you complain coz it's normal. Balancing the trade is abnormal cause each countries have different resources and capabilities. Bvalancing the tradde is like an affirmative action ignoring different level of intelligence. Affirmative action of preferring more Blacks to enter universities depends on a tariff-like policy and all of you who prefer merit based would hate it. |
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User ID: 77932396 United States 08/18/2019 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For tariff to work, America should go commie, be a socialist country with a close door policy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75153819 Trade deficit is something that normally happens due to each country having different resources and capabilities. All of you who buy things from your retailers have a 100% trade deficit with your retailers, but none of you complain coz it's normal. Balancing the trade is abnormal cause each countries have different resources and capabilities. Bvalancing the tradde is like an affirmative action ignoring different level of intelligence. Affirmative action of preferring more Blacks to enter universities depends on a tariff-like policy and all of you who prefer merit based would hate it. The WTO trade agreements are designed to destroy first world countries and bring all nations to the same level of poverty. They are completely, totally, and irrevocably flawed, dishonest, destructive and essential to a one world government. US should simply get out of the WTO entirely. Any farmer that can't see what has happened to ag since the advent of WTO agreements is blind, or dumb on purpose. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41925838 United States 08/18/2019 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bbbbbut bbbut the soybean farmers who lost their Chinese buyers!!!! Oh Noz Tariffs!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77777813 lol They are focusing on the other: 43%. USA is in a great position to bargain. The USA is an economic superpower. Such a great position that they are falling at our feet right? You are purely delusional if you think for one minute that the farmers are not being irreparably harmed right now and probably years into the future. There is no doubt that there are and were trade practices that were not beneficial to us but the current practice is not the way to clear the air that is so obvious only those who are IGNORANT continue to claim otherwise!! I wonder how many of those farmers have agreed to grow Pharmaceutical grade Marijuana instead of food? I know there seems to be a lot of judges in Illinois totally invested in that crop! I imagine if they are, so are the mob and the rest of the politicians. |