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Not dying last night was great, but now I have questions about Anaphylaxic Shock

 
Azaziah  (OP)

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09/18/2019 09:13 PM

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Re: Not dying last night was great, but now I have questions about Anaphylaxic Shock
Keto causes mast cell degranulation.

If you have underlying mastocytosis or mast cell activation syndrome/disorder which is possible, the keto diet itself may cause anaphylaxis
 Quoting: RubyV82


OK, thanks for scaring the shit out of me. That is some rough stuff, but seems pretty rare. I don't think I have the markers for it.

yeesh.
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Sorry not trying to scare you. I think if it was mastocytosis you would have known already, but the mast cell activation syndrome can come on at any point in life. It causes intolerance to histamine.

Being in Ketosis causes mast cells to degranulate. Histamine is one of the products in mast cells (which are the immune system cells).

Eggs contain histamine as does pot roast and caffeine (caffeine would cause release of mast cells within 30mins).

I think the keto diet and all the things you are that day caused a build up of histamine in your system and possibly a dao gene polymorphism, that would not be able to clear histamine as quickly from the body that then resulted in anaphylaxis.
If it happens again and you can’t find a cause try a low histamine diet?
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Wow. You ONLY get posts this intelligent on GLP. Thank you. More research needed.
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09/18/2019 09:17 PM
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Re: Not dying last night was great, but now I have questions about Anaphylaxic Shock
You're diabetic or having liver disease or fatty liver.
MCT will poison you if you got any of these 2.
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Keto causes mast cell degranulation.

If you have underlying mastocytosis or mast cell activation syndrome/disorder which is possible, the keto diet itself may cause anaphylaxis
 Quoting: RubyV82


I am not aware having liver disease, am not diabetic.

mastocytosis interesting. I guess I have research to do...

...did I mention it is a great day to be alive?
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You need to get to your doctor and have them prescribe an Epi Pen that you would carry on you at all times, in case that ever happens again. Very very lucky you are ok.
Azaziah  (OP)

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09/18/2019 09:17 PM

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You are very wise for placing your future health into the capable hands of GLP miscreants.
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So far, I have found more good, helpful info here in this thread than I got from the doctor. That is why I told my story and started a thread as soon as I could. I would rather hear from real people, anonymous or not, than a guy in a white coat.
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09/19/2019 10:30 AM

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Just noticed your tag lines. Have you considered chemical or nonorganic exposure?

Have you changed suppliers, were you handling a different type of material or substance?
Azaziah  (OP)

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09/19/2019 10:39 AM

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Just noticed your tag lines. Have you considered chemical or nonorganic exposure?

Have you changed suppliers, were you handling a different type of material or substance?
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Good questions. No, no material or chemical changes. Also, our shop is very 'clean' in an industrial sense... very few solvents or chemicals in a free state except for things like lubricants or adhesives, and those in small amounts...
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09/19/2019 10:43 AM

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[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

It isn’t always contact dermatitis as the first symptom
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09/19/2019 10:50 AM

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Just noticed your tag lines. Have you considered chemical or nonorganic exposure?

Have you changed suppliers, were you handling a different type of material or substance?
 Quoting: Dame


Good questions. No, no material or chemical changes. Also, our shop is very 'clean' in an industrial sense... very few solvents or chemicals in a free state except for things like lubricants or adhesives, and those in small amounts...
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Okay

Can you tell I don’t like unsolved mysteries?
Azaziah  (OP)

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09/19/2019 08:12 PM

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Re: Not dying last night was great, but now I have questions about Anaphylaxic Shock
Just noticed your tag lines. Have you considered chemical or nonorganic exposure?

Have you changed suppliers, were you handling a different type of material or substance?
 Quoting: Dame


Good questions. No, no material or chemical changes. Also, our shop is very 'clean' in an industrial sense... very few solvents or chemicals in a free state except for things like lubricants or adhesives, and those in small amounts...
 Quoting: Azaziah



Okay

Can you tell I don’t like unsolved mysteries?
 Quoting: Dame


Yes, and I love it and appreciate it.

I have been on a research binge... so far, I lean toward the MCT, combined with an empty stomach, combined with ketosis and a liver loaded with vitamin A (toxin), and the released fats (from ketosis) resulting in a toxic load (from the released Vitamin A) causing my immune system to create a cytokene storm.

...or not.

Still researching.
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09/23/2019 10:23 AM
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Re: Not dying last night was great, but now I have questions about Anaphylaxic Shock
Just noticed your tag lines. Have you considered chemical or nonorganic exposure?

Have you changed suppliers, were you handling a different type of material or substance?
 Quoting: Dame


Good questions. No, no material or chemical changes. Also, our shop is very 'clean' in an industrial sense... very few solvents or chemicals in a free state except for things like lubricants or adhesives, and those in small amounts...
 Quoting: Azaziah



Okay

Can you tell I don’t like unsolved mysteries?
 Quoting: Dame


Yes, and I love it and appreciate it.

I have been on a research binge... so far, I lean toward the MCT, combined with an empty stomach, combined with ketosis and a liver loaded with vitamin A (toxin), and the released fats (from ketosis) resulting in a toxic load (from the released Vitamin A) causing my immune system to create a cytokene storm.

...or not.

Still researching.
 Quoting: Azaziah


I'm having good results with my issues with a lowish vitamin A diet. I've been on it 4 months. Others will tell you, and I will too, this is not an instant fix and you will cycle through periods of revisiting problems as your body does some long-needed detox.

The problems are not simple and the lowish A diet will have to be continued for quite a while. Years, generally.

I now tell my healthy loved ones to do the math (plenty of calulators online) and DON'T be eating anything MORE than the Recommended Daily Allowance for vitamin A. This includes beta carotene, all the A's.

A lot of people will look at you funny, but it isn't so weird that there are limits to how much of a nutrient should be taken. Iron is a good example. You need some, but not a lot.

I also think there are other factors at play, lifestyle and possibly genetic, that create your personal "burn rate" for vitamin A.





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