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CDC Says Illegal Vape Drugs, Not Vaping, Responsible For Rash Of Hospitalizations

 
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must-
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vape-juice-
from trusted supplier-

like Marlborough ;)

(they are about to release their own vape products soon)

funny that.....
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Juul Labs Inc. may be a four-year-old company based out of San Francisco, but Altria Group Inc. (MO), the maker of Marlboro cigarettes, valued the e-cigarettes maker at $38 billion when it invested $12.8 billion late last year for a 35% stake.

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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Yes I agree but this is the first confirmation from a CDC or TPTB source that states it.
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IKR. That's a shocker just from the CDC itself.
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Yes I agree but this is the first confirmation from a CDC or TPTB source that states it.
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I recall reading that someone from Oregon, which died, purchased their oil from a legal dispensary.
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862


Yes I agree but this is the first confirmation from a CDC or TPTB source that states it.
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


I recall reading that someone from Oregon, which died, purchased their oil from a legal dispensary.
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Yes I read that article also.

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Vitamin E test strip or similar device might be a good moneymaker thing.

Some type of way to verify all ingredients with minute sample would be ideal, but it has to be very simple
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Vitamin E test strip or similar device might be a good moneymaker thing.

Some type of way to verify all ingredients with minute sample would be ideal, but it has to be very simple
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76774152


People are hacking the pods and putting whatever in them.
Whole slew of videos on YT showing how.


"Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others."

Everyone has to work out their own salvation.

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Phew !!!...Hannity is still the Juulboro Man
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That's me never buying any more, had a couple early in the year, not going to bother any more


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Govt wants their tobacco taxes

That is all its about.
, and
The fact that you think vaping is a good lifestyle is your other problem.

Why not stuff an oriental catfish up your ass for a good time too?

Vaping/smoking anything is unnatural.
It only exists to make huge profits by a monopolized market with full knowledge that its harmful at least and deadly at best and sucks the money out of the trailer parks almost as fast as meth and heroin
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why not just smoke a NORMAL cigarette!
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CDC likes vaccines
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gummint legalized vaccines and is busy legalizing drugs.

See a pattern?
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depopulation, yes


of humans
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Good thing you are a horse, of course...
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They know that states are going to start banning this scary thing called vaping so they need to stop that from happening. Because if vaping is banned, then people inevitably will go back to smoking cigarettes which is the last thing the CDC and pretty much everyone wants.
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must-
get-
vape-juice-
from trusted supplier-

like Marlborough ;)

(they are about to release their own vape products soon)

funny that.....
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


Juul Labs Inc. may be a four-year-old company based out of San Francisco, but Altria Group Inc. (MO), the maker of Marlboro cigarettes, valued the e-cigarettes maker at $38 billion when it invested $12.8 billion late last year for a 35% stake.

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Love my Juul.

Nicotine may be beneficial to the human brain, said Harvard Medical School.

Nicotine is rightly reviled because of its associations with smoking and addiction. But the rogue substance has a wide range of effects on the brain, which may include some healing properties. Researchers are testing nicotine and related compounds as treatments for Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and other conditions.


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Wow, the CDC being honest? That's a first. Amazing.
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Or was it a plot all along by the gov to gain more control?
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Wow, the CDC being honest? That's a first. Amazing.
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Maybe its a tarp?
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“ Eighty percent of those patients reported the use of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component of cannabis, she said.”

And the other 20% lied because they don’t want their parents to know they get high.
John 8:32

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
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Where is cannibuskills rofl?
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wait so i should or should not continue mixing methamphetamine crystals from the street corner dealer in with my juice?

Someone please clarify. Thank you in advance.
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Fentanyl most likely put in the counterfeit cartridges. Chicoms want us dead.
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more Chinese counterfeits. they're killing us.
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It's because they are black market and unregulated, completely unlike the companies that produce them legally on the west coast or the companies that produce them as the nicotine e-cigs.

This has nothing to do with THC and everything to do with the shit thugs who made these counterfeits cut the oil with. We're talking about the difference between a product being made in a lab with stringent quality control, having to pass state-mandated tests for safety etc. like a THC vape cartridge in California would for example, and a product a bunch of gang bangers put together in a drug house and sold as counterfeits.

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Some asshole is making THC carts with a bad solvent.
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I hate to dispute the CDC but they are wrong! The liquid form of vapeing has a liquid base and that is some form of oil. Anyone with any smarts knows that oil when super heated burns tissue. The smoke which is so popular comes from heating the mixture and when inhaled and cooled tends to form a gelatinous coating which appears to be what is happening.
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This has nothing to do with THC and everything to do with the fact these were counterfeit products that happened to have THC in them, along with a host of other nasty chemicals and cut with different oils that would never be present in a QC'd product in the West or other legal states, nor would these toxins typically be in any commercially-produced nicotine e-cigarette products.

IMO this is a hit from big tobacco or e-cigarette companies (probably mostly owned by big tobacco), big pharma, big alcohol, etc.

Only other possibilities that immediately come to mind is they were intentionally produced to be dangerous to the user by people who wanted to fuck people up in the U.S.

Or these were simply inferior products, cut with nasty cheap shit to maximize profit and the selfish fucks who produced these counterfeits only ever cared about maximizing profit. Typical of drug dealers, thus the need to address ADULT USE cannabis on a federal level.

Everyone panics when they think of regulating anything but the truth is that were adult use cannabis to be legalized, there would be private companies that spring up to do QC'ing and safety testing on products that a person could rely vs. something peddled as "safe" by government standards.

Were it to be legalized, people would likely have the chance to grow their own as well as is common in most states that have legalized. Not saying it's for everyone, not saying it's for kids, but adults should be allowed to use cannabis 21+ (same as alcohol which no here can keep a straight face and tell me doesn't cause more problems/deaths than weed) and any age deemed necessary for medical use.
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It's because they are black market and unregulated, completely unlike the companies that produce them legally on the west coast or the companies that produce them as the nicotine e-cigs.

This has nothing to do with THC and everything to do with the shit thugs who made these counterfeits cut the oil with. We're talking about the difference between a product being made in a lab with stringent quality control, having to pass state-mandated tests for safety etc. like a THC vape cartridge in California would for example, and a product a bunch of gang bangers put together in a drug house and sold as counterfeits.
 Quoting: Lumberghini


That and people popping the Pods open and putting their own mixtures in them.
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In my experience, the "Iraqi Shack" owners are always the first to be peddling the fucked up legal "synthetic" drugs like bath salts and shit like that.

They seem like they would be just the type to mass produce some nasty shit like these cartridges and sell them on the black market and laugh at the Americans who used them and got sick.
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It's because they are black market and unregulated, completely unlike the companies that produce them legally on the west coast or the companies that produce them as the nicotine e-cigs.

This has nothing to do with THC and everything to do with the shit thugs who made these counterfeits cut the oil with. We're talking about the difference between a product being made in a lab with stringent quality control, having to pass state-mandated tests for safety etc. like a THC vape cartridge in California would for example, and a product a bunch of gang bangers put together in a drug house and sold as counterfeits.
 Quoting: Lumberghini


That and people popping the Pods open and putting their own mixtures in them.
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


Yup that's another way I've heard people doing it. I hated having to reference a state like Commiefornia to show how it could be done correctly, but in that one instance those tards out there got it right.

Hopefully they get this mess sorted out soon and get the bastards who are producing this shit locked up where they belong.
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It's a big problem in schools now. They tend to get the black market and illegal vapes because they cannot go into a store to buy them. Manufacturers play right into it, too, by marketing to kids. There is one out there now that looks like the string of a hoodie. They look like they are chewing on their hoodie string, but in reality are vaping.
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I read somewhere they have been finding the bootleg thc cartridges with vitamin E as the medium instead of vegetable glycerin
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vegetable Glycerin is cheaper to buy then vitamin e oil so you wonder who is doing this as they are pretty stupid
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5a
I hate to dispute the CDC but they are wrong! The liquid form of vapeing has a liquid base and that is some form of oil. Anyone with any smarts knows that oil when super heated burns tissue. The smoke which is so popular comes from heating the mixture and when inhaled and cooled tends to form a gelatinous coating which appears to be what is happening.
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 66223473


When money is involved, it's pretty difficult to get the big manufacturers to admit any liability - it will always be the other guy's fault.





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