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Billxam, ABATE, AWHA
User ID: 64581773 United States 09/22/2019 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the news won't report this and the politicians RUSH to pass legislation to regulate this because they see this as an opportunity they can't let go to waste. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862 That's right because SOMBODY gots to make money from this and it's not the vape manufacturers. Just like when rolling your own smokes used to be cheap and then the all new taxes for the children made it as expensive as a pack. Now that 5 dollar bottle of fluid's gonna cost you 20 bucks because somebody just has GOT to make money off of it. And if you think it's because of health reasons, why you need to pay 20 bucks a bottle for it. Just like Kratom, the killer plant rising up out of the asian part of the world is striking poor souls dead in their tracks. For the children. Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
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User ID: 78011019 United States 09/22/2019 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fentanyl most likely put in the counterfeit cartridges. Chicoms want us dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76947138 I personally feel some of the cheaper cartridge's have very inferior metal components , with some parts even having a cheap coating on them. Ive vaped and I noticed the horrible taste of metal coating being vaped right along with the ingredient. It leaves a horrible taste in your mouth. Use of only the more surgical type steel, is shall we say more preferred. Unfortunately some people just do what ever, and it doesn't cross their minds. Much like doctors prescribing harmful medications and people self medicate their preferred dosage? Be careful and be smart. I tried vaping a couple britelabs cartridges....one tasted fine the other tasted like burnt rubber. It was awful. So i can imagine what bootleg street vaping stuff does. That one cartridge turned me off to vaping thc. I will never do that again. I was even debating weather to throw it in the trash and co sider it a loss. Oh well! Yea I vape, it saves money. I get the bad boy cartridges now, don't buy the Chinese crap being put out. Just look at the cartridge's and their quality or the lack there of. The other thing is I pull up at a light, and someone next to me is vaping or in front of me too, and its like the Cheech and Chong movie with their window down. If I would be taking hits like they are id be dead in no time. Jeeze no one knows moderation? I guess im a light weight, but I just like a little puff or 2 during the day while im pounding away at my grunt lifestyle sweating my ass off. One cartridge last me 2 months. But I think all of this crap going on is like most recognize here. Its fucking the tobacco industry hard, especially when people can do things on their own. But lets face it they sell millions of packs of cigarettes' for decades, and suddenly their health conscience? I don't think so, ive lost many family members to cancer from smoking and they never gave two shits! And the CDC is death incorporated in my opinion. Seriously forcing millions world wide to take deadly cocktails into their bodies, is clinical insanity. Ive never taken a flu shot in my life and never will! They are a global entity bent on world dominance through compliance. They are the enemy, if you've done your homework that is. Come And Take It! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77206740 United States 09/22/2019 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vitamin E acetate is hazardous when inhaled. It's what was used in the black market THC cartridge's. Vaping has been popular for about 11 years. All of the sudden we have a few deaths and it's a big issue. Sound a little fishy? 5 deaths and 450 lung illnesses vs 100k plus deaths from tobacco a year. And how many from drunk driving. But they want to ban Vaping. Also the states are borrowing millions against the tobacco sales money they get each year, and vaping is cutting in to the tobacco sales at about 3% a year. Sound a little fishy? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76222273 United States 09/22/2019 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr Dana Meaney-Delman is leading the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s investigation into the culprit behind at least five confirmed deaths and 450 reported cases of lung illness linked with use of the devices. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ The agency is recommending that people refrain from the use of any electronic cigarette or vaping device until there is more conclusive evidence of a cause, she said in an interview. “We’re trying to prevent any additional cases and deaths,” Meaney-Delman said. She has reviewed data so far from 64 patients, including cases published on Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine as well as other reports. Eighty percent of those patients reported the use of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component of cannabis, she said. more here: [link to thefederalistpapers.org (secure)] 80% used thc The other 20% used it too but were either on probation/parole or underage and living with their parents |
Timur2020
User ID: 73442221 United States 09/22/2019 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are, but in this case i think its more like colorado antifa...that can't produce a product well, they should have done all the god damn chemical analysis Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044 on day one. what the hell are coming out with this news 2 weeks after the fact? So they can make it into whatever they want and so the feds can trace back what they are able to and arrest the maker while they are reading about it. I read somewhere they have been finding the bootleg thc cartridges with vitamin E as the medium instead of vegetable glycerin Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen Thats very very plausible. Its the treatment now that matters and should be happening this minute. Stupid vapers need their head examined, why not just smoke a NORMAL cigarette! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77994583 I do and vaping is wierd to me....but...in places where discretion is courtesy, they can be handy. I think i have taken 2 puffs on it this month and 3 or 4 last month. I only picked it up for a taste of pineapple. I presumed kids were sucking flavor vapes like candy or coke and that was it. Thats only inflammation. The oil thing is a mess. Complicated to treat i imagine. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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User ID: 74503301 United States 09/22/2019 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re Butthurt big tobacco trolls and msm sheeple : sorry to say but Vapes are here to stay. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75328508 If they can take the vape away they can take the oil away. The oil is whats healing everyone, it isn't killing anyone I assure you. They are not saying its bho or pot oil, its vitamin E oleocosis causing pneumonia Of course the news won't report this and the politicians RUSH to pass legislation to regulate this because they see this as an opportunity they can't let go to waste. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862 That's right because SOMBODY gots to make money from this and it's not the vape manufacturers. Just like when rolling your own smokes used to be cheap and then the all new taxes for the children made it as expensive as a pack. Now that 5 dollar bottle of fluid's gonna cost you 20 bucks because somebody just has GOT to make money off of it. And if you think it's because of health reasons, why you need to pay 20 bucks a bottle for it. Just like Kratom, the killer plant rising up out of the asian part of the world is striking poor souls dead in their tracks. For the children.s further geribalization into socialist wretches, talking like babies and living like elementary school with all the adult stuff anyway. Its for sure they are trying all ways possible to frame them up some cash. They're so far gone now you can only hope they die in their booze or get shot to intimidate the rest. Kratom does replace the hydro for all of mine and we started carrying it because of the net pirates and head shop crap for $1 gram. "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 09/22/2019 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW: Rumors here in Colorado is that a rogue group (un regulated/taxed and not inspected, i.e., black market) is selling cannabis vape products (mostly THC) diluted with vitamin E acetate instead of the allowed diluents like MCT oil, etc. Vit E is for topical/ingestion use only and should never be vaped as it will cause a hard oily buildup in the lungs. The problem is that Vit E oil is very cheap in comparison to the allowed diluents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019715 These "rumors" are coming from a very good source and Colorado may be the origination point for these black market products. Hope this is helpful. I thought Colorado was full of all those kinder, gentler liberals that would never hurt a soul in the name of profit? |
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User ID: 74503301 United States 09/22/2019 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW: Rumors here in Colorado is that a rogue . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019715 These "rumors" are coming from a very good source and Colorado may be the origination point for these black market products. Hope this is helpful. I thought Colorado was full of all those kinder, gentler liberals that would never hurt a soul in the name of profit? That would have been the "conservative" ones that have been replaced by fogs, browns and jackbooters with serious man issues. Avoid "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78018170 United States 09/22/2019 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) True knowledge and learning is limited only by that limit which we place upon ourselves. ( That is an original quote, of mine ) 2) For years, schools have taught it backwards. Schools have taught students to seek answer's. "Educators", should have taught and should be teaching to seek "the unanswered question" and how to find that unanswered question. To provoke thought. 3) The limit of accepted knowledge today is merely that step of knowledge that exists today. There is always more. There is always a next step. Knowledge is infinite. |
Rufus Juice
User ID: 77413848 United States 09/22/2019 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i believe it. ~ Its unregulated, i know a guy mixing cleaners with cbd and coke and calling it fun. Didnt say he sells it ~ but. VAPE IT UP ! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix |
DeplorableDoomsdayGuy
User ID: 77361703 United States 09/22/2019 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK genius, show me one verifiable case where someone has died and the coroner listed THC as the cause of death. If what you claim is true then this should be an easy task for you. You do form your opinions based on facts, don't you? Last Edited by Pinochet'sChopperPilot on 09/22/2019 09:32 PM Come on and take a free ride. |
Cannabis Kills People!
User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 09/22/2019 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK genius, show me one verifiable case where someone has died and the coroner listed THC as the cause of death. If what you claim is true then this should be an easy task for you. You do form your opinions based on facts, don't you? Thread: Woman killed by Cannabis in first ever 'THC overdose' in USA states coroner Last Edited by Cannabis Kills People! on 09/22/2019 09:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75328508 United States 09/22/2019 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vitamin E acetate is hazardous when inhaled. It's what was used in the black market THC cartridge's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77206740 Vaping has been popular for about 11 years. All of the sudden we have a few deaths and it's a big issue. Sound a little fishy? 5 deaths and 450 lung illnesses vs 100k plus deaths from tobacco a year. And how many from drunk driving. But they want to ban Vaping. Also the states are borrowing millions against the tobacco sales money they get each year, and vaping is cutting in to the tobacco sales at about 3% a year. Sound a little fishy? |
DeplorableDoomsdayGuy
User ID: 77361703 United States 09/22/2019 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK genius, show me one verifiable case where someone has died and the coroner listed THC as the cause of death. If what you claim is true then this should be an easy task for you. You do form your opinions based on facts, don't you? Thread: Woman killed by Cannabis in first ever 'THC overdose' in USA states coroner Wow, I said verifiable. So I went to the article that was in that link and I get this "Experts cast doubt on coroner's claim woman killed by cannabis in first ever 'THC overdose' in US". So not only is that case verifiable "Experts cast doubt", so in other words they said his determination was bullshit. Your linked article also says that it is the first case, so lets use a little logic here. People have been smoking weed for centuries and no one has died from it, ever. Then we have one solitary case, where the coroner said this"He added: “I’m thinking this lady must have vaped this THC oil and got a high level in her system and (it) made her stop breathing, like a respiratory failure.”. Actually the woman who died in this case is probably one of the first to die from vaping THC in vitamin E. Vitamin E is what scientists are now blaming the 9 deaths from vaping. So in this one case, it wasn't the THC that killed her it was the Vitamin E acetate that was the base of the vape. Come on and take a free ride. |
Deplorable Revbo™
User ID: 45591835 United States 09/23/2019 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK genius, show me one verifiable case where someone has died and the coroner listed THC as the cause of death. If what you claim is true then this should be an easy task for you. You do form your opinions based on facts, don't you? Thread: Woman killed by Cannabis in first ever 'THC overdose' in USA states coroner Wow, I said verifiable. So I went to the article that was in that link and I get this "Experts cast doubt on coroner's claim woman killed by cannabis in first ever 'THC overdose' in US". So not only is that case verifiable "Experts cast doubt", so in other words they said his determination was bullshit. Your linked article also says that it is the first case, so lets use a little logic here. People have been smoking weed for centuries and no one has died from it, ever. Then we have one solitary case, where the coroner said this"He added: “I’m thinking this lady must have vaped this THC oil and got a high level in her system and (it) made her stop breathing, like a respiratory failure.”. Actually the woman who died in this case is probably one of the first to die from vaping THC in vitamin E. Vitamin E is what scientists are now blaming the 9 deaths from vaping. So in this one case, it wasn't the THC that killed her it was the Vitamin E acetate that was the base of the vape. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Ra User ID: 74493934 United States 09/23/2019 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the news won't report this and the politicians RUSH to pass legislation to regulate this because they see this as an opportunity they can't let go to waste. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862 That's right because SOMBODY gots to make money from this and it's not the vape manufacturers. Just like when rolling your own smokes used to be cheap and then the all new taxes for the children made it as expensive as a pack. Now that 5 dollar bottle of fluid's gonna cost you 20 bucks because somebody just has GOT to make money off of it. And if you think it's because of health reasons, why you need to pay 20 bucks a bottle for it. Just like Kratom, the killer plant rising up out of the asian part of the world is striking poor souls dead in their tracks. For the children. Bunk kratom being sold? I buy (supposedly) organic kratom here and there. If you take too much you feel sick and light headed but that's about it. It's for pain relief and/or mood enhancor. Haven't heard of it killing anyone. It's a very mild drug IMO. And its best uses are for pain relief. The euphoria and mood effects are nice mild effects, but you easily build up a tolerance. Not sure why it's illegal in some parts... |
Ra User ID: 74493934 United States 09/23/2019 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FWIW: Rumors here in Colorado is that a rogue group (un regulated/taxed and not inspected, i.e., black market) is selling cannabis vape products (mostly THC) diluted with vitamin E acetate instead of the allowed diluents like MCT oil, etc. Vit E is for topical/ingestion use only and should never be vaped as it will cause a hard oily buildup in the lungs. The problem is that Vit E oil is very cheap in comparison to the allowed diluents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019715 These "rumors" are coming from a very good source and Colorado may be the origination point for these black market products. Hope this is helpful. I thought Colorado was full of all those kinder, gentler liberals that would never hurt a soul in the name of profit? Im thinking it's more than just thaf one group, unless they are a big operation. I've heard of these illegal (not from legal production) vapes all the way in wisconsin. Hopefully the feds actually do something right for once and shut this operation down... |
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