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So they're trying to prevent their facilities from causing more wildfires during these winds and everyone's freaking out.
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You're obviously ignorant and miss the point. It's pathetic that Kommiefornia has become such a shithole place, worse than 3rd world countries. This is what happens when communism infects a country. Kommiefornia is the next Venezuela. Corrupt libtard politicians and insane laws lead to anarchy.
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Yes, it was a GREAT STATE for most of my life. Progressive commies and illegals have all but trashed the place.

Don't blame PG&E; they have been nickel and dimed to death, and then trashed, over taxed, over burdened, and ripped apart by the fucking retards who are too fucking stupid to realize that companies like that MUST make a profit, or they will die from lack of infrastructure.
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Re: CALIFORNIA::::::::::::: BEGINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! URGENT UPDATE ***1.5M reported as the real number PAGE 18
LOOK AT THE MAP - Agenda 21-30 - MOVE PEOPLE INTO THE CITIES

[link to www.kqed.org (secure)]

If this becomes the 'new norm', more people will move from the suburbs into the cities.

NWOwns YOU!!!
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Even if people have solar panels hooked up to their homes, they may not get to use them. A lot of power company lobbyists have made sure that the laws were changed in many jurisdictions (Don't know about CA) so that you can only feed your own solar power back into the grid and get get paid by the power company. You cannot have a switch to power your own house from your own solar panels, in case the grid goes down!
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Dont let anyone know you put solar panels in.
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Even if people have solar panels hooked up to their homes, they may not get to use them. A lot of power company lobbyists have made sure that the laws were changed in many jurisdictions (Don't know about CA) so that you can only feed your own solar power back into the grid and get get paid by the power company. You cannot have a switch to power your own house from your own solar panels, in case the grid goes down!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76792534


A lot of inverters have transfer switch. You wire in a sub panel and batteries after inspection.
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Re: CALIFORNIA::::::::::::: BEGINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! URGENT UPDATE ***1.5M reported as the real number PAGE 18
Is there anyone here going through the blackout that can give us information?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75868928


Probably not...


:duh:
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


I am in Santa Rosa. Power went out last night and is still off. We have had a generator for several years with a Honda engine. It works great. Had our refrigerator hooked up to it. Here is the deal: We got 13 Nixle reports since yesterday about the power being off. I was doing my every 15 mi ute glance at alertwildfire and there was a fire earlier near Wallace.road. Did we get an alert about that fire? Answer --NO!. People around town freaking out. As long as you are prepared it goes okay. You would think it was the end of the world. I find it amusing. The senior citizens my significant other dealt with today take it in stride. They were well prepared and it is only a minor inconvenience. Younger kids who never lived through a tornado, hurrica e, ice storm or earthquake almost losing it. The wind is really picking up now. I will post if it gets bad.
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Is there anyone here going through the blackout that can give us information?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75868928


Probably not...


:duh:
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I am in Santa Rosa. Power went out last night and is still off. We have had a generator for several years with a Honda engine. It works great. Had our refrigerator hooked up to it. Here is the deal: We got 13 Nixle reports since yesterday about the power being off. I was doing my every 15 mi ute glance at alertwildfire and there was a fire earlier near Wallace.road. Did we get an alert about that fire? Answer --NO!. People around town freaking out. As long as you are prepared it goes okay. You would think it was the end of the world. I find it amusing. The senior citizens my significant other dealt with today take it in stride. They were well prepared and it is only a minor inconvenience. Younger kids who never lived through a tornado, hurrica e, ice storm or earthquake almost losing it. The wind is really picking up now. I will post if it gets bad.
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Thank you!
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I'm in Calaveras County. No power for about four hours now. Cell phones stopped working shortly after power went out. Cell towers must have run out of juice.

We had multiple warnings of when the power was to go out:
10pm last night
12 pm last night
Noon today. Then changed to 8pm. Then rumor was that if power hadn't gone out then it wouldn't be shut off here. Then.... it went out around 4.

The PGE website has inaccessible most of the last 24 hours. So we've been trying to get our own info off various news sites.

When I called Att yesterday to ask if cell service would work during shutdown they said "they didn't know and were looking into it."

This whole thing has been super disorganized. What a circus.

Now...we don't know if power will come back on tomorrow....or Sunday. There are conflicting reports all over online.

Btw... other than a few gusts of wind earlier.

There has been NO wind. Not even a gentle breeze right now.
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Can I predict that the wind will come up right after the power comes back on and half the state burns?

I mean everything else is fucked up, right?
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PG&E map down? Check the interactive power shut-off map here

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Here is an update from BPEarthwatch. He thinks "something
is "fishy in Denmark" (with the power turn offs since it
is now to include areas near L.A. like Riverside.)


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
3 1/4 minute duration. BPEarthwatch
Power "turn-off" spreads from N. California
down to parts of L.A...
Jessie says: "Something doesn't smell right."

Something is "fishy!"

FishyINDonsMark
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Re: CALIFORNIA::::::::::::: BEGINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! URGENT UPDATE ***1.5M reported as the real number PAGE 18
Here we go:::::::::::


[link to poweroutage.us (secure)]

UPDATE 500K WITHOUT POWER!!!

Top Areas by Outages
California 509,826

Washington 19,683
Maryland 3,913
South Carolina 3,292
Texas 2,759


ohyeah
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


This was done by the power company on purpose

"Pacific Gas & Electric is defending its decision to shut off power to potentially millions of Californians to prevent deadly wildfires."


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This is a very odd move on their part. burnit
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People, disabled, those with medical conditions, and every business and store need to begin massive class action law suits against them, but even more, sign round table.

Because corrupt courts and judicial/judges are all over the place, and the people have to sign off that if justice isn't done, they're going to storm the corrupt offices of judicial and politicians and the companies that allow this in the first place.

Because this is what it damn well takes for freedom and power to the people, and nations that are for the people, by the people, and who aren't slaves who get kicked in the groin, pissed and shit on by these satanic freaks who exploit you for all of your money while jerking off and laughing.

Kill those monsters with fire, metaphor or real.

You escalate demands and sign off, no martyrs, no 1000 that can be dealt with, hundreds of thousands and millions, with integrity, refusing the bullshit.

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They are 'BANKRUPT' they have no intentions of turning it back on.. this is it, hit the kill switch & walk-away. just sayin'


Strange daze indeed.. blink
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LOL what a strange thing to say.
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The government comes in an nationalizes the power because those evil capitalists couldnt do the job right. Did I get the script right?
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This is going to start some real shit, but , I suppose, that's the purpose.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


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The government comes in an nationalizes the power because those evil capitalists couldnt do the job right. Did I get the script right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78018170


Yes, that's how communists work. The mobsters called democrats that run Kommiefornia are following the Venezuela script.

Those patriots left in Kommiefornia need to organize and start mass protests like those in Hong Kong and Ecuador. Farmers can stop farming and threaten to salt their farmland unless their demands are met. People don't work and tax income falls.

I can't remember the GLP who has the following story, but it applies:

The battle between two ‘wolves’ is inside us all. One is evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.

The other is good. It is: joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a moment and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The grandfather replied, “The one you feed.”
 Quoting: Story of the Two Wolves


Stop feeding the wrong beast.

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riots soon
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And this is why we can't have nice things.
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I forgot to mention, I know someone who works at CalISO (manages Kommiefornia's powergrid) and a former GE Power Distribution engineer. Did you know that most of Kommiefornia's electrical power companies run their equipment at 95%. The power grid is overloaded and equipment lifetime is reduced. Think of it like running your car engine near red-line. How long do you think the engine will last?
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Northern California is now Vineezuela.

5a wine
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Power Factor Correction. Major users of Power need to add an inductive / capacitive Power Factor Correction system to their facilities.

I tried to tell them that in the 90's. They didn't listen as usual. oh well.

I forgot to mention, I know someone who works at CalISO (manages Kommiefornia's powergrid) and a former GE Power Distribution engineer. Did you know that most of Kommiefornia's electrical power companies run their equipment at 95%. The power grid is overloaded and equipment lifetime is reduced. Think of it like running your car engine near red-line. How long do you think the engine will last?
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The government comes in an nationalizes the power because those evil capitalists couldnt do the job right. Did I get the script right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78018170


Yes, that's how communists work. The mobsters called democrats that run Kommiefornia are following the Venezuela script.

Those patriots left in Kommiefornia need to organize and start mass protests like those in Hong Kong and Ecuador. Farmers can stop farming and threaten to salt their farmland unless their demands are met. People don't work and tax income falls.

I can't remember the GLP who has the following story, but it applies:

The battle between two ‘wolves’ is inside us all. One is evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.

The other is good. It is: joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a moment and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The grandfather replied, “The one you feed.”
 Quoting: Story of the Two Wolves


Stop feeding the wrong beast.
 Quoting: Agent MIB

White Americans don't have a fraction of the rage and courage of people in Hong Kong...
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my bad, it was already after 2000. Either way, the systems start @ about $100,000.00, that is why many manufacturers don't have said systems.

Power Factor Correction. Major users of Power need to add an inductive / capacitive Power Factor Correction system to their facilities.

I tried to tell them that in the 90's. They didn't listen as usual. oh well.

I forgot to mention, I know someone who works at CalISO (manages Kommiefornia's powergrid) and a former GE Power Distribution engineer. Did you know that most of Kommiefornia's electrical power companies run their equipment at 95%. The power grid is overloaded and equipment lifetime is reduced. Think of it like running your car engine near red-line. How long do you think the engine will last?
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Live Press Conference

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Towel head...really? you people are in so much trouble!
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I listened for about ten minutes and I smell bullshit. So now when the wind blows you can have your electricity turned off indefinitely. What if you have meat stored in freezers? No stored up water? Holy shitballs...all I can say is you better have prepped.chuckle
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So true I was thinking about all the food that will be wasted for preppers and just regular families who store a lot

Who is going to reimburse the cost of that, with this voluntary planned power outage?
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Zabar's cheese, Manhattan, GAVE their cheese away to the public during a blackout in the 2000's, saving themselves the cost of having to deal with it, and earning the enduring loyalty of locals (not to mention some hefty write-off).
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Even if people have solar panels hooked up to their homes, they may not get to use them. A lot of power company lobbyists have made sure that the laws were changed in many jurisdictions (Don't know about CA) so that you can only feed your own solar power back into the grid and get get paid by the power company. You cannot have a switch to power your own house from your own solar panels, in case the grid goes down!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76792534


Dont let anyone know you put solar panels in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78018170


Bigger investment to be offgrid with batteries and the maintenance required, but necessary to escape the whims of the utility companies.

A car dealership here just GAVE dozens of outdated, but working, solar panels to the guy they hired to strip them off the roof. He can't use them all and is parsing them about to a few folks he knows.

Get to know people. Forklift batteries do the job.
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Don't let anyone in your home that's not a close friend or family member.
Be safe out there.
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They don't need no stinking power, global warming


If we shut off california for good, we will no longer

have to worry about global warming
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THey're shutting it off in places where Trump supporters reign- Clinton body count bout ready to go off charts- round ups commencing of anyone right leaning and dangerous to commie cauze....coming to a State near you soon too!
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Even if people have solar panels hooked up to their homes, they may not get to use them. A lot of power company lobbyists have made sure that the laws were changed in many jurisdictions (Don't know about CA) so that you can only feed your own solar power back into the grid and get get paid by the power company. You cannot have a switch to power your own house from your own solar panels, in case the grid goes down!
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This here is enough to justify moving the fuck out of this country.
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So they're trying to prevent their facilities from causing more wildfires during these winds and everyone's freaking out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76581818


You're obviously ignorant and miss the point. It's pathetic that Kommiefornia has become such a shithole place, worse than 3rd world countries. This is what happens when communism infects a country. Kommiefornia is the next Venezuela. Corrupt libtard politicians and insane laws lead to anarchy.
 Quoting: Agent MIB




Yes, it was a GREAT STATE for most of my life. Progressive commies and illegals have all but trashed the place.

Don't blame PG&E; they have been nickel and dimed to death, and then trashed, over taxed, over burdened, and ripped apart by the fucking retards who are too fucking stupid to realize that companies like that MUST make a profit, or they will die from lack of infrastructure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78040912


Oh boo fucking hoo, their CEO made $8.6 million in 2017 (latest compensation info available).
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Is there anyone here going through the blackout that can give us information?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75868928


Probably not...


duh
 Quoting: WyatteSmith


I am in Santa Rosa. Power went out last night and is still off. We have had a generator for several years with a Honda engine. It works great. Had our refrigerator hooked up to it. Here is the deal: We got 13 Nixle reports since yesterday about the power being off. I was doing my every 15 mi ute glance at alertwildfire and there was a fire earlier near Wallace.road. Did we get an alert about that fire? Answer --NO!. People around town freaking out. As long as you are prepared it goes okay. You would think it was the end of the world. I find it amusing. The senior citizens my significant other dealt with today take it in stride. They were well prepared and it is only a minor inconvenience. Younger kids who never lived through a tornado, hurrica e, ice storm or earthquake almost losing it. The wind is really picking up now. I will post if it gets bad.
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Thanks for your report. Best to you and yours, keep us in the loop.
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WHEN ARE CALIFORNIANS GOING TO STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS????
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Even if people have solar panels hooked up to their homes, they may not get to use them. A lot of power company lobbyists have made sure that the laws were changed in many jurisdictions (Don't know about CA) so that you can only feed your own solar power back into the grid and get get paid by the power company. You cannot have a switch to power your own house from your own solar panels, in case the grid goes down!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76792534


This here is enough to justify moving the fuck out of this country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77982166


It’s because they are contracted to supply green energy to the electric company. It’s in the stipulations.
Dim wits sign and don’t ask or read the contract.
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