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I am building a decentralized social media tool

 
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Note to the mods: I'm not promoting this tool via this post. I don't want to compete with GLP. I simply want to discuss what I'm working on and its possibilities.

I have been thinking about and tinkering with all kinds of web technologies that might enable a truly decentralized social media platform ever since I first heard about people being "de-platformed" because of wrongthink several years ago.

Since that time, a few players have shown up who claim they are decentralized, but it's not true. They all rely on some central point of failure. Whether that be some cloud service like Amazon Web Services or Azure, or depend on a single domain name/DNS provider/CDN, like Cloudflare or some other webhost.... These approaches always showed the major flaw.

How can someone build a tool that is truly decentralized while still depending on big tech players?

The answer is simple. Take the middle man out entirely and go 100% decentralized with P2P. By that, I mean get rid of domain names. Get rid of hosting providers. Get rid of centrally managed storage.

How am I doing it? WebRTC and WebTorrent. Those are the main clues I'll give you. But I'm not going to give away all the secrets before I have a working model that I'm ready to release into the wild....

Feel free to ask any other questions.. .
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Much love and respect to you Op!!! I hope you get this off the ground, you got this...

I would LOVE to have my Right to Free Speech back. It has been taken from me repeatedly by Twitter and Fb, and other hosting sites...

#GodSpeed #OneLove XOXO

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Nobody's interested in this idea?

BTW - it's not just an idea... It's already working.
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Where do I send the money?
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Nowhere. I'm working on this for the good of humanity.
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Note to the mods: I'm not promoting this tool via this post. I don't want to compete with GLP. I simply want to discuss what I'm working on and its possibilities.

I have been thinking about and tinkering with all kinds of web technologies that might enable a truly decentralized social media platform ever since I first heard about people being "de-platformed" because of wrongthink several years ago.

Since that time, a few players have shown up who claim they are decentralized, but it's not true. They all rely on some central point of failure. Whether that be some cloud service like Amazon Web Services or Azure, or depend on a single domain name/DNS provider/CDN, like Cloudflare or some other webhost.... These approaches always showed the major flaw.

How can someone build a tool that is truly decentralized while still depending on big tech players?

The answer is simple. Take the middle man out entirely and go 100% decentralized with P2P. By that, I mean get rid of domain names. Get rid of hosting providers. Get rid of centrally managed storage.

How am I doing it? WebRTC and WebTorrent. Those are the main clues I'll give you. But I'm not going to give away all the secrets before I have a working model that I'm ready to release into the wild....

Feel free to ask any other questions.. .
 Quoting: Boaty


Much love and respect to you Op!!! I hope you get this off the ground, you got this...

I would LOVE to have my Right to Free Speech back. It has been taken from me repeatedly by Twitter and Fb, and other hosting sites...

#GodSpeed #OneLove XOXO

red_heartred_heartred_heartblwkss
 Quoting: #OneLove XOXO 78117970


You want to hear something mindblowing about it? You don't need to visit a single website for it to work... You can run the code straight from a file that loads in your browser. As soon as you do that, you're online.

(yes securitytards that sounds scary, but the source code will be 100% open source and will be published on github)

Last Edited by BoatyMcBoatface on 11/11/2019 10:53 PM
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If that is true, tell me how your take on things improves on the Pocketnet implementation? Or, otherwise, how are your ideas better than theirs? Can you compare what you have in mind to it?

Why is your take on things better?

I have only tried Pocketnet once and it looked pretty swell. I have no skin in the game other than that I want something very robust and secure and also functional and God willing, popular.

In my world, it never works out like you imagine as a young thinker with some skills.

Been there, done that.

If you have the real deal in mind, your first point of attack should be currency rather than social.

Social is the weaker point and maybe safer to some degree.

I could give you some suggestions about how to raise cash and market your thing while building it, but not here.

Personally speaking, I think you have already said too much in the wrong place.

Give me a one time, one off email addy, and I will dialogue with you. Then delete it here asap.
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Distributing the new thing can and will be attacked up front before you have traction and many (new) people hosting the nodes to make it distributed.

You will have to hide the end goal to get around that. (your politics should not matter).

I would suggest not politicking your new thing for a long while, if ever.

I suggest you just build the platform and let people use it how they want to.

Just build the infrastructure and get everyone to try it out first.

Politicizing it will assure your failure.

Again, been there, done that.
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If that is true, tell me how your take on things improves on the Pocketnet implementation? Or, otherwise, how are your ideas better than theirs? Can you compare what you have in mind to it?

Why is your take on things better?

I have only tried Pocketnet once and it looked pretty swell. I have no skin in the game other than that I want something very robust and secure and also functional and God willing, popular.

In my world, it never works out like you imagine as a young thinker with some skills.

Been there, done that.

If you have the real deal in mind, your first point of attack should be currency rather than social.

Social is the weaker point and maybe safer to some degree.

I could give you some suggestions about how to raise cash and market your thing while building it, but not here.

Personally speaking, I think you have already said too much in the wrong place.

Give me a one time, one off email addy, and I will dialogue with you. Then delete it here asap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


I have not researched pocketnet enough to answer. My first impressions, though, are that it's blockchain based. Blockchain is slow. Also, it can't give users the ability to run the CODE locally in a browser tab that spins up a server (Name any technology that lets that happen! This can!). I'm not interested in dialog with you as an AC. Sign up, and I'll upgrade you for PM.

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Sorry, I cannot sign up here to get you to PM me. No worries. Take what I say to you here to heart. I tried to overthrow the Fed Res back in the e-gold days by making a digital currency function and now we have BitCoin. Does not matter. BitCoin is apolitical for a reason Sempai.
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Sorry, I cannot sign up here to get you to PM me. No worries. Take what I say to you here to heart. I tried to overthrow the Fed Res back in the e-gold days by making a digital currency function and now we have BitCoin. Does not matter. BitCoin is apolitical for a reason Sempai.
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Tell pocketnet to fix the intro video on the main page of its website..
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You want to hear something mindblowing about it? You don't need to visit a single website for it to work... You can run the code straight from a file that loads in your browser. As soon as you do that, you're online.
...
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Correct me if I'm out of line but can't you do that with FTP?
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Wishing you the greatest success boaty!!

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What took you so long?
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You want to hear something mindblowing about it? You don't need to visit a single website for it to work... You can run the code straight from a file that loads in your browser. As soon as you do that, you're online.
...
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Correct me if I'm out of line but can't you do that with FTP?
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Without a central server? I don't think so.
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I suspected you knew nothing about it.

I suggest you check it out. Its not slow at all. Getting it working will be the hardest part. But for someone as smart as you, it will be easy.

I found it really nice to use and even on the block chain its pretty fast since it is mostly text based. But you can post images and videos now I hear. It functions more or less as fast as Twitter.

The people there are also very welcoming even if you are hard core right wing. That is who are on there now for the most part.

You have to do this to compare what you have in mind. There are many others also.
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What took you so long?
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Roadblocks everywhere.... "They" could roadblock this too, really. But I have a secret plan for that.
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I'm on board. [email protected]
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Sorry, I cannot sign up here to get you to PM me. No worries. Take what I say to you here to heart. I tried to overthrow the Fed Res back in the e-gold days by making a digital currency function and now we have BitCoin. Does not matter. BitCoin is apolitical for a reason Sempai.
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Tell pocketnet to fix the intro video on the main page of its website..
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Stop being a Simp and just check it out actually.
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I suspected you knew nothing about it.

I suggest you check it out. Its not slow at all. Getting it working will be the hardest part. But for someone as smart as you, it will be easy.

I found it really nice to use and even on the block chain its pretty fast since it is mostly text based. But you can post images and videos now I hear. It functions more or less as fast as Twitter.

The people there are also very welcoming even if you are hard core right wing. That is who are on there now for the most part.

You have to do this to compare what you have in mind. There are many others also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


Why is the video saying "Sorry this video does not exist." Quit shilling for the project you're working on and pretending that you're not.

Post your own thread to promote it. And then summarily find yourself banned for competing with GLP... LOL
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Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie.
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You want to hear something mindblowing about it? You don't need to visit a single website for it to work... You can run the code straight from a file that loads in your browser. As soon as you do that, you're online.
...
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Correct me if I'm out of line but can't you do that with FTP?
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That is true. lol
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You want to hear something mindblowing about it? You don't need to visit a single website for it to work... You can run the code straight from a file that loads in your browser. As soon as you do that, you're online.
...
 Quoting: Boaty


Correct me if I'm out of line but can't you do that with FTP?
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Without a central server? I don't think so.
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You don't need a central server. You just configure one computer to act as the "client", and the other as the "server".
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You want to hear something mindblowing about it? You don't need to visit a single website for it to work... You can run the code straight from a file that loads in your browser. As soon as you do that, you're online.
...
 Quoting: Boaty


Correct me if I'm out of line but can't you do that with FTP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77360897


Without a central server? I don't think so.
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You don't need a central server. You just configure one computer to act as the "client", and the other as the "server".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77360897


How will someone find your server?
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Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie.
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You can also just admin things with SSH. I dunno. What are we dealing with here?
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I'm on board. [email protected]
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See, easy.
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I'm on board. [email protected]
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See, easy.
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Ok zoomer.
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I suspected you knew nothing about it.

I suggest you check it out. Its not slow at all. Getting it working will be the hardest part. But for someone as smart as you, it will be easy.

I found it really nice to use and even on the block chain its pretty fast since it is mostly text based. But you can post images and videos now I hear. It functions more or less as fast as Twitter.

The people there are also very welcoming even if you are hard core right wing. That is who are on there now for the most part.

You have to do this to compare what you have in mind. There are many others also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


Why is the video saying "Sorry this video does not exist." Quit shilling for the project you're working on and pretending that you're not.

Post your own thread to promote it. And then summarily find yourself banned for competing with GLP... LOL
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You are an idiot. I only speak the truth. I feel you cant to what you proposed to do alone. I think you are Cat Fishing.
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I suspected you knew nothing about it.

I suggest you check it out. Its not slow at all. Getting it working will be the hardest part. But for someone as smart as you, it will be easy.

I found it really nice to use and even on the block chain its pretty fast since it is mostly text based. But you can post images and videos now I hear. It functions more or less as fast as Twitter.

The people there are also very welcoming even if you are hard core right wing. That is who are on there now for the most part.

You have to do this to compare what you have in mind. There are many others also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


Why is the video saying "Sorry this video does not exist." Quit shilling for the project you're working on and pretending that you're not.

Post your own thread to promote it. And then summarily find yourself banned for competing with GLP... LOL
 Quoting: Boaty


You are an idiot. I only speak the truth. I feel you cant do what you proposed to do alone. I think you are Cat Fishing.
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I'm on board. [email protected]
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See, easy.
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Delete your posts now Ill.
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Nobody's interested in this idea?

BTW - it's not just an idea... It's already working.
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I have my own server, I do all that now. Have my email, storage, pages, etc.

I am Neo. matrix
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I suspected you knew nothing about it.

I suggest you check it out. Its not slow at all. Getting it working will be the hardest part. But for someone as smart as you, it will be easy.

I found it really nice to use and even on the block chain its pretty fast since it is mostly text based. But you can post images and videos now I hear. It functions more or less as fast as Twitter.

The people there are also very welcoming even if you are hard core right wing. That is who are on there now for the most part.

You have to do this to compare what you have in mind. There are many others also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


Why is the video saying "Sorry this video does not exist." Quit shilling for the project you're working on and pretending that you're not.

Post your own thread to promote it. And then summarily find yourself banned for competing with GLP... LOL
 Quoting: Boaty


You are an idiot. I only speak the truth. I feel you cant to what you proposed to do alone. I think you are Cat Fishing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


Don't you have to get to sleep so you can wake up for your avacado toast?

I do appreciate your input, but I posted this here for input from here. I will not discuss it outside of here. Okay Zoomer?
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I suspected you knew nothing about it.

I suggest you check it out. Its not slow at all. Getting it working will be the hardest part. But for someone as smart as you, it will be easy.

I found it really nice to use and even on the block chain its pretty fast since it is mostly text based. But you can post images and videos now I hear. It functions more or less as fast as Twitter.

The people there are also very welcoming even if you are hard core right wing. That is who are on there now for the most part.

You have to do this to compare what you have in mind. There are many others also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77407179


Why is the video saying "Sorry this video does not exist." Quit shilling for the project you're working on and pretending that you're not.

Post your own thread to promote it. And then summarily find yourself banned for competing with GLP... LOL
 Quoting: Boaty


You are an idiot. I only speak the truth. I feel you cant do what you proposed to do alone. I think you are Cat Fishing.
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Correct me if I'm out of line but can't you do that with FTP?
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Without a central server? I don't think so.
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You don't need a central server. You just configure one computer to act as the "client", and the other as the "server".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77360897


How will someone find your server?
 Quoting: Boaty


You always have to have some third party method of advertising your presence. Even if you have a regular website, people aren't going to visit it if no one tells them it exists.

You could post something cryptic on GLP. For example, if you make a thread "Why don't birds fly to the Moon" and then when someone answers "Because there is no A1 sauce on the Moon", it means they have files ready to download.





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