Bold Prediction: Nancy Pelosi will never allow a senate trial of President Trump to happen. | |
Wookiee666
User ID: 62421844 United States 12/20/2019 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pence and Trump are being removed on he orders of Bibi Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499 in case you don't know IS---- owns and operates the corporate fiction called the United States government .... references: [link to theeconomiccollapseblog.com] Wait - I thought that BR----- (or is it the QU---?) owns and operates the corporate fiction called the United States government Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
Lynx7 User ID: 78252170 United States 12/20/2019 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. Quoting: Larry D. Croc My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. The people have the means to force a Senate hearing. We the People - they work for US! |
Buzzcheeze
User ID: 78138811 United States 12/20/2019 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will be a house of cards when they get Adam Schiff to TESTIFY under OATH. Last Edited by Buzzcheeze on 12/20/2019 09:34 AM "TRUMP WON" "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" 'My ego is smaller than yours Why is abbreviation such a long word “When seconds MATTER, cops are only minutes away "Cut out a man's tongue and you dont prove him a liar. It just proves you fear what he has to say" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77998499 United States 12/20/2019 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When was the Federal Reserve Act passed? December 23, 1913 When will the secret vote to remove Trump take place? December 23 2019 while the senate is in recess over christmas break Remember the recent David Goldberg white house insider leak? Bibi Netanyahu said that if Trump didn't attack Iran he would be "flushed" |
Deplorable Doomfan45
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78107266 United States 12/20/2019 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the risk of having the full GLP effect come down on me like a herd of monkeys trying to hump a doorknob, I submit to you that there is no way Pelosi will ever send the Senate the articles of impeachment. Quoting: Herbert George Wells Here's why: 1) Adam Schiff illegally got the telephone records of the president's lawyer, Rudy Guiliani, journalist John Solomen, and republican congressman Devin Nunes and included them in his impeachment report; opening a huge can of worms for Pelosi. If those articles go to the senate it will be Schiff's actions on trial and the president's lawyers will be allowed to cross-examine Schiff on the witness stand even if he is one of the house managers sent to present their case for impeachment. What Schiff did was almost just as bad as the FBI's electronic surveillance of the Trump campaign and Pelosi knows it was so bad that Schiff refused to show up before the Judiciary committee to submit his report. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Schiff has done would become the CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 2) The Democrats' case is barely strong enough to put to paper because Schiff failed to use all the powers of the courts to compel the White House to provide the witnesses Schiff says he wanted to appear in his secret sex dungeon beneath the capital building. Schiff also screwed up by refusing to allow White House counsel to attend advise and defend any member of the Trump administration Schiff had on his shortlist to grill like a hotdog at an Ed Buck costume party. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Schiff did not do would become another CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 3) The House impeaching Trump was a purely political act meant to pacify those liberals in Congress and in the Democrat party that were a curly little pubic hair away from revolt and the removal of the makeup-stained gavel from Pelosi's hands. Pelosi has bet the final years of her career in the hope that having articles of impeachment hanging over Trump's head during his re-election campaign will be a modern-day sword of Damocles that who gets the democrat nomination can point to as proof Trump should not be President again. If Pelosi had any sense of how Trump looks at things she would know that he will turn her threat to send the articles of Impeachment to the senate into one more another reason to vote for him even if she does send those articles to the senate in next October. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Pelosi has done would become yet another CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 4) The only people in America that haven't figured out that this is just a political stunt by Pelosi are the "Orange man bad" crowd screaming reeeeee into the paper bag of paint fumes they are huffing. Pelosi never meant for this to go anywhere but into her desk drawer as yet another insurance policy for the democrats in case Trump gets elected again is another record landslide win over the democrats. Sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate would ensure that Republicans will retake the house in 2020 and holding on to them will ensure that a Republican speaker of the house can quietly round file them when Pelosi is forced to step down or retire. Of course you are all wrong Neither party wants a trial as it will expose the fact that they are laundering foreign aid back to themselves. Trump does not care about either party, he wants to expose the entire corrupt political class in America and Americans know this and elected him to do so. Even Michael Moore knows that. And that political class is scared to death because not only did Trump make incredible promises but HE DELIVERED ON HIS PROMISES. All those that Believed in Trump will re-elect him in a bigger landslide than before because of how the political class has tried to stop him for four years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77998499 United States 12/20/2019 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is being "flushed" as predicted see this video: FALSE FLAG UPDATE: Trump to be "FLUSHED DOWN TOILET" if no Iran war [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] found on this youtube channel: Friends Of David Goldberg 4.36K subscribers |
beeches
User ID: 77354011 United States 12/20/2019 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | by whose definition? only Nancy knows what the definition of is is.... as long as they let her gat away with it Article V makes NO mention of sending anything to anyone... the Congressional Record is all the notice anyone needs Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77998499 United States 12/20/2019 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is a controlled asset of international banksters they have no tolerance for any independent thinking on orders of Netanyahu, Trump is being judiciously removed from office like the OP says, no trial Pelosi will stage a secret vote over senate recess |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68965544 United States 12/20/2019 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They know defeating President Trump next year is impossible, therefore, while the have the power to impeach him now. They impeach him in the house, hold articles in hopes after his re-election they retake the senate and remove him from power almost immediately after he starts his second term. They are playing the long game. They will put all their effort into re-taking the senate even if it cost them losing control of the house. They no longer need the house at this point. Sneaky snakes. They will hold those impeachment articles until after the election as insurance if he is reelected. They are playing for broke, they have to take back the senate. I personally think Trump will win next year, and republicans retake the house and keep the senate. Democrats next move once that is done is obvious. Anything to keep globalism on track even, if it means causing a civil war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76792534 United States 12/20/2019 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am wondering if the law permits them to delay as long as after the next election when they are stupid enough to hope they, the Democrats, will control the Senate? I realize the Democrats are going to lose in an historical smashing defeat, but they are so enamored with themselves that they are irrational and do not realize how deeply they have ticked off the Americans. . I have also wondered about this. No one on FOX news has brought up this potential situation. How long do these articles stay valid if not sent to ]the Senate? Only for this term of this House? 1 year? Indefinitely? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78107266 United States 12/20/2019 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is being "flushed" as predicted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499 see this video: FALSE FLAG UPDATE: Trump to be "FLUSHED DOWN TOILET" if no Iran war [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] found on this youtube channel: Friends Of David Goldberg 4.36K subscribers Bebe is going to flush Donald Trump down the toilet for not going to war against Iran... [link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)] That was then, this is now, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu charged in multiple corruption cases |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78107266 United States 12/20/2019 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am wondering if the law permits them to delay as long as after the next election when they are stupid enough to hope they, the Democrats, will control the Senate? Quoting: White Gloves 75670424 I realize the Democrats are going to lose in an historical smashing defeat, but they are so enamored with themselves that they are irrational and do not realize how deeply they have ticked off the Americans. . I have also wondered about this. No one on FOX news has brought up this potential situation. How long do these articles stay valid if not sent to ]the Senate? Only for this term of this House? 1 year? Indefinitely? There is no precedent for what Pelosi is doing to the President. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47573609 United States 12/20/2019 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Senate does NOT tap dance to the whims of the House. They can do whatever they want under their own rules. If the articles aren't released to the Senate they can perform a perfunctory summary judgement and exonerate the President in a day if they chose to do so. |
Ninbit
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Busterhymen
User ID: 77755236 United States 12/20/2019 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You lay it out all very well OP, but there's just one problem.............Mitch Mcconnell doesn't have the balls to let it go to a full blown trial, ie. calling Pelosie, Schiff, the Bidens, to tesify in open court. If it ever goes to the Senate, Mcconnell will do the bare minimum to wrap it up as quickly as possible. It's a closed society in DC, and he wants to wrist slap the dems, not obliterate them. FCK the WEF! Keep your hands off my country! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4082637 United States 12/20/2019 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope. It was just to have the talking point. They wanted to associate the word impeached with Trump through the election. It’s a pathetic plan and it will fail too. Also, word in DC is the folks who voted for this KNEW this was going to happen and most of them were promised it was never going further than a token FAKE VOTE, so they did it knowing it was a joke. People here are really amazed that this is actually happening. Most DEM staffers are really embarrassed. It’s being associated with Fake News. Fake Votes now. Where they are literally living in a fake world of fakery. Now you can see just how stupid their base really is. |
Philly Special
User ID: 48696927 United States 12/20/2019 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am wondering if the law permits them to delay as long as after the next election when they are stupid enough to hope they, the Democrats, will control the Senate? Quoting: White Gloves 75670424 I realize the Democrats are going to lose in an historical smashing defeat, but they are so enamored with themselves that they are irrational and do not realize how deeply they have ticked off the Americans. . I have also wondered about this. No one on FOX news has brought up this potential situation. How long do these articles stay valid if not sent to ]the Senate? Only for this term of this House? 1 year? Indefinitely? There is no precedent for what Pelosi is doing to the President. How dare she invoke the Framers and their intentions? Yes, they realized there may be a "rogue president", which is why the impeachment process exists. However, they also realized that the impeachment process MUST be bipartisan and it MUST be held to the highest standards possible, otherwise it could be used as a political weapon. The Framers knew this, they talked at length about it, and here we are. That exact thing has happened. Biggest crime in all this is that half the country thinks that what the dems have done/are doing is legit and in our best interest. Not realizing that this (already is, IMO) turning into a full blown Constitutional Crisis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4082637 United States 12/20/2019 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh and Nancy never had the votes until they told their party what they were going to do. Fake Voting. It will never go to the Senate and by Christmas this will be looked at just like all of the other goofy, token crybaby Al Green, cry baby impeach crap that’s brought to the floor every week. This one was just propagandized by the media to get their base to think it matters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77192746 United States 12/20/2019 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The democrats plans in my opinion this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68965544 They know defeating President Trump next year is impossible, therefore, while the have the power to impeach him now. They impeach him in the house, hold articles in hopes after his re-election they retake the senate and remove him from power almost immediately after he starts his second term. They are playing the long game. They will put all their effort into re-taking the senate even if it cost them losing control of the house. They no longer need the house at this point. Sneaky snakes. They will hold those impeachment articles until after the election as insurance if he is reelected. They are playing for broke, they have to take back the senate. I personally think Trump will win next year, and republicans retake the house and keep the senate. Democrats next move once that is done is obvious. Anything to keep globalism on track even, if it means causing a civil war. Even if the demon-rats retake the Senate, they have to get a 2/3rds vote in favor of removal. That's the safety valve the founders put in place in order that the executive branch is protected from political sneakiness like this. the "crimes" and evidence has to be clearly there... not some fantasy stuff like there is here. |
Deplorable Mary
User ID: 71205112 United States 12/20/2019 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the risk of having the full GLP effect come down on me like a herd of monkeys trying to hump a doorknob, I submit to you that there is no way Pelosi will ever send the Senate the articles of impeachment. Quoting: Herbert George Wells Here's why: 1) Adam Schiff illegally got the telephone records of the president's lawyer, Rudy Guiliani, journalist John Solomen, and republican congressman Devin Nunes and included them in his impeachment report; opening a huge can of worms for Pelosi. If those articles go to the senate it will be Schiff's actions on trial and the president's lawyers will be allowed to cross-examine Schiff on the witness stand even if he is one of the house managers sent to present their case for impeachment. What Schiff did was almost just as bad as the FBI's electronic surveillance of the Trump campaign and Pelosi knows it was so bad that Schiff refused to show up before the Judiciary committee to submit his report. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Schiff has done would become the CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 2) The Democrats' case is barely strong enough to put to paper because Schiff failed to use all the powers of the courts to compel the White House to provide the witnesses Schiff says he wanted to appear in his secret sex dungeon beneath the capital building. Schiff also screwed up by refusing to allow White House counsel to attend advise and defend any member of the Trump administration Schiff had on his shortlist to grill like a hotdog at an Ed Buck costume party. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Schiff did not do would become another CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 3) The House impeaching Trump was a purely political act meant to pacify those liberals in Congress and in the Democrat party that were a curly little pubic hair away from revolt and the removal of the makeup-stained gavel from Pelosi's hands. Pelosi has bet the final years of her career in the hope that having articles of impeachment hanging over Trump's head during his re-election campaign will be a modern-day sword of Damocles that who gets the democrat nomination can point to as proof Trump should not be President again. If Pelosi had any sense of how Trump looks at things she would know that he will turn her threat to send the articles of Impeachment to the senate into one more another reason to vote for him even if she does send those articles to the senate in next October. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Pelosi has done would become yet another CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 4) The only people in America that haven't figured out that this is just a political stunt by Pelosi are the "Orange man bad" crowd screaming reeeeee into the paper bag of paint fumes they are huffing. Pelosi never meant for this to go anywhere but into her desk drawer as yet another insurance policy for the democrats in case Trump gets elected again is another record landslide win over the democrats. Sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate would ensure that Republicans will retake the house in 2020 and holding on to them will ensure that a Republican speaker of the house can quietly round file them when Pelosi is forced to step down or retire. We all know how crooked they are and how the skirted the law for this witch hunt, among many other things. They won't risk it. They've got to be taken down one way or another. While I firmly believe Trump has 2020, he will get a lot more votes if he starts taking them down now. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78107266 United States 12/20/2019 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You lay it out all very well OP, but there's just one problem.............Mitch Mcconnell doesn't have the balls to let it go to a full blown trial, ie. calling Pelosie, Schiff, the Bidens, to tesify in open court. If it ever goes to the Senate, Mcconnell will do the bare minimum to wrap it up as quickly as possible. It's a closed society in DC, and he wants to wrist slap the dems, not obliterate them. Quoting: Busterhymen That assumes Mitch McConnell doesn't know which way the wind is blowing. Democrats are like spoiled children screaming for their suckers, Most of the American people want them spanked for acting like children. They see Trump as the means to do so, Mitch McConnell has to decide which side of history he wants to be on. Hopefully, he will choose wisely. |
Deplorable Cowgirl
User ID: 78136776 United States 12/20/2019 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, if you haven't yet done so, you should watch McConnell's speech to the Senate yesterday. Quoting: Philly Special Congress does not have a right to anything protected by executive privilege. The SC has upheld executive privilege consistently throughout the decades. The "obstruction of congress" article is completely bunk. It's akin to a cop reading you your miranda rights, and then charging you with obstruction of justice when you don't answer any questions. We have definitely veered off the tracks of normalcy, because no one ever considered the idea of impeaching a POTUS in the House, but never sending the articles to the Senate. Why would anyone consider that? Why would they need rules for such an occasion? It's a completely absurd idea that totally undermines any claim of "fairness" "due process" "bipartisan" "urgency" during this whole process (which has lasted all of 12 weeks). This is something a child does. Ram somehthing through as quick as possible because it's the most important thing in the world, then sit on it and delay. Because it was and is completely political designed to appease the ones who have screamed impeach Trump since day one. They actually feel like they did something even without a single bipartisan vote. Idiots who bought that crap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78266057 United States 12/20/2019 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm looking forward to the following. Quoting: Proud Trump Supporter Dec 19 2019 16:04:18 (EST) [link to www.theepochtimes.com (secure)] Important to read and understand. Something BIG is coming. Q Yeah, the courts were complicit. Came to that conclusion long ago. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4082637 United States 12/20/2019 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump is being "flushed" as predicted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77998499 see this video: FALSE FLAG UPDATE: Trump to be "FLUSHED DOWN TOILET" if no Iran war [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] found on this youtube channel: Friends Of David Goldberg 4.36K subscribers Bebe is going to flush Donald Trump down the toilet for not going to war against Iran... [link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)] That was then, this is now, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu charged in multiple corruption cases Bebe has no power. But yeah, clowns keep yapping about it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78266057 United States 12/20/2019 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pelosi hoping that the Senate will flip Democrat shows that she might not be all there. Quoting: Herbert George Wells Here's why: Every Republican Senate Candidate is going to run on her refusal to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate and rightly claim that she is stalling for time so that she can get a Democrat majority in the senate. Hell every Democrat senate candidate will claim they must be elected so that Pelosi can send the articles of impeachment to the Senate so that they can be elected to impeach Trump. Meanwhile, Trump will browbeat the media for failing to expose all the crimes of the previous administration in Ukraine and Pelosi for refusing to send the articles of Impeachment forward to the Senate. In the end, the Republicans will regain the House because Pelosi chose poorly, this is not a hill you want to die on. The Dems have a good chance of keeping the House and flipping the Senate. Why? Because there are more R seats in the Senate open than D seats. And there are more Democratic voters than R voters. The trick is to get them motivated to go to the polls. What better motivator than the possibility that all it will take is taking the Senate to get it done? McConnell need to get this out of their hands and out of the voters mind in January. This is he impeached or not is pointless. It's a technicality that won't matter a whit to most of the voters. They are bombarded daily that he was and that is what is going to be in their heads. |
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