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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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Sam's on the Front Range is fairly well stocked, but the rows in the center of the store seems like they took 2 or 3 out and spread the rest to fill the space.

Paper products are there, meat is there but expensive.

On the West Coast, near Sacramento, products in Sam's are sparse and basic items, like bread, are out.

Not sure why there's such disparity between different locations of the same store corporation.
 Quoting: Cheyenne



It is because they are fragmenting, cycling and reshuffle the supply.

One week, they supply some stores with A,B,C, the others with D,E,F, and so on, the next week they swap, or mix the products, and so on, and so on.
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July 15th, 2020.

Time for a new update.


First, my predictions about the U.S. reopening way too early, with an increase in pandemic spread (cases, hospitalizations, ICU usage) that will start to be seen roughly 4 to 6 weeks after May 15th, were proven to be on point.


The U.S. resurgence of the pandemic (I call it the second wave) started roughly at the end of June, which is 5 weeks after May 15th.


In the last 3 weeks (last week of June and first 2 weeks of July), the number of cases, hospitalizations and ICU usage in a number of areas of the U.S. simply exploded.

No need for numbers, we all see how the pandemic is going in Texas, Florida, California and Arizona.


Another prediction I made is that by the end of July - beginning of August, the resurgence of the pandemic (second wave) will get much worse, and this is what we are seeing now, with several more states at the point of exploding in cases : Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Ohio, Nevada and Oklahoma.


Overall, I expected at least 12 epicenters in the U.S., and if my projections are correct, by the end of July - beginning of August, at least 13 states in the U.S. will have 1 to 2 epicenters each.


Time will tell, it's only 2 to 3 weeks left until my projections will be proven right or wrong.



As for Brazil, there isn't much left to say. Two weeks ago I said it will get worse, and it got worse. And will continue on the same path for another 2-3 weeks, when I expect Brazil to plateau.

How long will the plateau last, I have no idea, at this very moment, but it will last a good while.



Europe.


From the beginning I said it is very complicated to predict the pandemic evolution in Europe, because the differences between Europe and the U.S. or Brazil are massive.


However, I still expect Europe to see the second wave starting sometime in the next 3 weeks, I still expect multiple epicenters (at least 16) to be established by the end of August.


The U.S. and Europe reopened in same time table, around mid-May, but while the U.S. reopened at breaking neck speed (quickly going from Phase 1 to 4, because "muh money"), Europe did not. Most European countries are in Phase 2 and 3.

The restrictions in Europe are actually observed and enforced, on a large scale. The mask wearing in Europe is much more spread compared to the U.S. or Brazil. The limitations on tourism and travel are generally respected by the businesses and population.


Sure, there are exceptions, but generally speaking, the Europeans, at least until recently, did abide by the rules.


The reasons above is what made me put the resurgence of the pandemic in Europe 8 to 10 weeks after reopening, which puts the date of resurgence between mid to end of July.


We're on July 15th now, so the second wave is about to start in Europe, but as I said, it is very difficult to predict it, because of how different are the policies in the countries that are on the continent.


My model still predicts the start of the resurgence in Europe in the next 2 weeks.


I believe that Europe will react swiftly to the resurgence, and looking at how quick were the Spanish and the U.K. governments in locking-down certain cities and areas, I expect the same to happen in the rest of Europe.


The resurgence in Europe will play differently from the U.S. Europe will see a solid increase in cases by September, but not as bad as the U.S. is seeing right now.

However, I expect to be big enough to justify large scale lock-downs in Europe by mid-October.



Moderna's vaccine, vaccines in general, herd immunity and the new strain.


I wish good luck to Moderna and other companies that are working on vaccines right now, but I am afraid they are pissing against the wind.


A vaccine against coronaviruses is virtually impossible to create. The current vaccines against coronaviruses are ineffective. A vaccine against a NOVEL coronavirus is a dream pipe.


The best case scenario, when everything goes perfect, we might have a vaccine against sars-cov-2 next Summer. Obviously, it will be ineffective (10%, MAYBE 20% effective), the mass scale production AND vaccination of the general population will take AT LEAST an additional 6 months.


Herd immunity, while unclear if it was possible or not, is now pretty much a done deal : it's off the table. Not enough antibodies and their lifespan is short.


The new strain, that is becoming dominant in the U.S., and is beginning to affect Europe now, is highly, HIGHLY contagious.

Masks won't do shit against the spread, BUT will do against viral load, which is directly related to the severity of the symptoms, hence, the hospitalizations and ICU usage.


The general population is fed up with the pandemic, some think it's a hoax, some think the virus is weak, some think only old people will die...but that is not the actual problem.


The actual problem is that the general population is ADAMANT against a new round of lock-downs, and their SYMBOL of resistance is ... NOT WEARING A MASK.




Since the begging of this thread I said that we, the people, will be the ones that can make or break this virus, and I was absolutely sure that people WILL MESS IT UP, that they are uncontrollable, they are not disciplined enough in the Western societies, and because of that, the pandemic will be devastating.


I have also said that I expect the second round of lock-downs to take place when the pandemic will be out of control, and the politicians, being the spineless weasels that they are, will LET THE VIRUS run wild in the second wave, and do so much damage, that the population will ASK for the second round lock-downs, hence, whatever will happen with the economy and the society, will be blamed on the virus AND the population being stubborn and not abiding by the rules of the pandemic.


This is clearly happening now in the U.S., and by mid-August, I expect massive lock-downs in the U.S.


But I might be optimistic, and they will STILL not lock-down in August, but come September, they will have to.



The critical period is the next 3 weeks, and the countries to watch are the U.S. and Brazil. The U.S., to see how they react, because this is how Europe and the rest of the world will copy, and Brazil, to see how things will look if a country is adamant against lock-downs.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Thanks for the update! I strongly see that the people will beg for lock down when their lifes become directly affected by the virus, most deniers haven’t had a close death, when that changes, the outcry for lockdown will start.
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July 15th, 2020.

Time for a new update.


First, my predictions about the U.S. reopening way too early, with an increase in pandemic spread (cases, hospitalizations, ICU usage) that will start to be seen roughly 4 to 6 weeks after May 15th, were proven to be on point.


The U.S. resurgence of the pandemic (I call it the second wave) started roughly at the end of June, which is 5 weeks after May 15th.


In the last 3 weeks (last week of June and first 2 weeks of July), the number of cases, hospitalizations and ICU usage in a number of areas of the U.S. simply exploded.

No need for numbers, we all see how the pandemic is going in Texas, Florida, California and Arizona.


Another prediction I made is that by the end of July - beginning of August, the resurgence of the pandemic (second wave) will get much worse, and this is what we are seeing now, with several more states at the point of exploding in cases : Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Ohio, Nevada and Oklahoma.


Overall, I expected at least 12 epicenters in the U.S., and if my projections are correct, by the end of July - beginning of August, at least 13 states in the U.S. will have 1 to 2 epicenters each.


Time will tell, it's only 2 to 3 weeks left until my projections will be proven right or wrong.



As for Brazil, there isn't much left to say. Two weeks ago I said it will get worse, and it got worse. And will continue on the same path for another 2-3 weeks, when I expect Brazil to plateau.

How long will the plateau last, I have no idea, at this very moment, but it will last a good while.



Europe.


From the beginning I said it is very complicated to predict the pandemic evolution in Europe, because the differences between Europe and the U.S. or Brazil are massive.


However, I still expect Europe to see the second wave starting sometime in the next 3 weeks, I still expect multiple epicenters (at least 16) to be established by the end of August.


The U.S. and Europe reopened in same time table, around mid-May, but while the U.S. reopened at breaking neck speed (quickly going from Phase 1 to 4, because "muh money"), Europe did not. Most European countries are in Phase 2 and 3.

The restrictions in Europe are actually observed and enforced, on a large scale. The mask wearing in Europe is much more spread compared to the U.S. or Brazil. The limitations on tourism and travel are generally respected by the businesses and population.


Sure, there are exceptions, but generally speaking, the Europeans, at least until recently, did abide by the rules.


The reasons above is what made me put the resurgence of the pandemic in Europe 8 to 10 weeks after reopening, which puts the date of resurgence between mid to end of July.


We're on July 15th now, so the second wave is about to start in Europe, but as I said, it is very difficult to predict it, because of how different are the policies in the countries that are on the continent.


My model still predicts the start of the resurgence in Europe in the next 2 weeks.


I believe that Europe will react swiftly to the resurgence, and looking at how quick were the Spanish and the U.K. governments in locking-down certain cities and areas, I expect the same to happen in the rest of Europe.


The resurgence in Europe will play differently from the U.S. Europe will see a solid increase in cases by September, but not as bad as the U.S. is seeing right now.

However, I expect to be big enough to justify large scale lock-downs in Europe by mid-October.



Moderna's vaccine, vaccines in general, herd immunity and the new strain.


I wish good luck to Moderna and other companies that are working on vaccines right now, but I am afraid they are pissing against the wind.


A vaccine against coronaviruses is virtually impossible to create. The current vaccines against coronaviruses are ineffective. A vaccine against a NOVEL coronavirus is a dream pipe.


The best case scenario, when everything goes perfect, we might have a vaccine against sars-cov-2 next Summer. Obviously, it will be ineffective (10%, MAYBE 20% effective), the mass scale production AND vaccination of the general population will take AT LEAST an additional 6 months.


Herd immunity, while unclear if it was possible or not, is now pretty much a done deal : it's off the table. Not enough antibodies and their lifespan is short.


The new strain, that is becoming dominant in the U.S., and is beginning to affect Europe now, is highly, HIGHLY contagious.

Masks won't do shit against the spread, BUT will do against viral load, which is directly related to the severity of the symptoms, hence, the hospitalizations and ICU usage.


The general population is fed up with the pandemic, some think it's a hoax, some think the virus is weak, some think only old people will die...but that is not the actual problem.


The actual problem is that the general population is ADAMANT against a new round of lock-downs, and their SYMBOL of resistance is ... NOT WEARING A MASK.




Since the begging of this thread I said that we, the people, will be the ones that can make or break this virus, and I was absolutely sure that people WILL MESS IT UP, that they are uncontrollable, they are not disciplined enough in the Western societies, and because of that, the pandemic will be devastating.


I have also said that I expect the second round of lock-downs to take place when the pandemic will be out of control, and the politicians, being the spineless weasels that they are, will LET THE VIRUS run wild in the second wave, and do so much damage, that the population will ASK for the second round lock-downs, hence, whatever will happen with the economy and the society, will be blamed on the virus AND the population being stubborn and not abiding by the rules of the pandemic.


This is clearly happening now in the U.S., and by mid-August, I expect massive lock-downs in the U.S.


But I might be optimistic, and they will STILL not lock-down in August, but come September, they will have to.



The critical period is the next 3 weeks, and the countries to watch are the U.S. and Brazil. The U.S., to see how they react, because this is how Europe and the rest of the world will copy, and Brazil, to see how things will look if a country is adamant against lock-downs.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I live in ground ZERO for the US right now in Miami-Dade, and I can assure you ll that 50% of the people here would welcome a hard lock down right now...the other 50% wont stand for it....We need it here now as hospitals are at the MAX or will be there in a day or so.
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Sorry to hear it, Joe Preps.


I am even more sorry that Miami-Dade county will not lock-down for another 2 weeks or so.


It MUST get worse, until people realize what no lock-down actually means, and start asking for a lock-down.


Politicians...always playing both hands, and never lose. They will let it get worse, so they can lock-down w/o being blamed for it.

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Sorry to hear it, Joe Preps.


I am even more sorry that Miami-Dade county will not lock-down for another 2 weeks or so.


It MUST get worse, until people realize what no lock-down actually means, and start asking for a lock-down.


Politicians...always playing both hands, and never lose. They will let it get worse, so they can lock-down w/o being blamed for it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I think you are 100% by waiting for the people to demand it so the dorks in charge have political cover.
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I pop into FB once a day to check on family. Amazing how many people are either adamant this is a hoax, or have the idea that "meh, everyone will get it", and just throw any care to the wind.

Whatever ..............

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Just thought I’d add this. Something I came across.

A man here caught the virus, then ten days after recovery caught it again..


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I pop into FB once a day to check on family. Amazing how many people are either adamant this is a hoax, or have the idea that "meh, everyone will get it", and just throw any care to the wind.

Whatever ..............

Cannot help them.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


I’m sad to have to confirm that the “everyone is going to get it, so why not let it just run and deal with it” is the most widespread sentiment in my country also. I have to clarify that if I knew this was just a flu, I would have the same mindset, but with the unclear and most likely artificial origin of it, and the nasty consequences and re infection, I don’t want to get it nor want anyone I care for get it, and think we all should cooperate to try to end the spread as much as we can.
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Just thought I’d add this. Something I came across.

A man here caught the virus, then ten days after recovery caught it again..


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
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This is going to be more and more acknowledged as time pases. We had a congressman in Chile that had the same thing happen to him, second time was much nastier.
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OP,

Thanks for the update! hf

I followed your thread from the beginning and I've always had faith in your fine work.

That said, I believe your prediction with regard to zombies MAD MAX zombies will become reality.
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Thanks for the continuing updates DR. I have been following since your post day 1. In Jan, my coworkers thought I was nuts, taking all the extra precautions. Now they treat me like some kind of prophet.
My biggest fear is another economic crash. I still see some items missing from shelves and certain parts from china are still difficult to get. Several businesses are closing for good, most notably long standing restaurants and bars. I think the economy has been propped up by the inflated unemployment payments, which are going to be running out near August. I don't think the underemployed are represented either. I have taken about a 25% reduction in my take home, I have had to take advantage of car loan deferments to make my mortgage, and I don't think I'm alone.
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July 15th, 2020.




Since the begging of this thread I said that we, the people, will be the ones that can make or break this virus, and I was absolutely sure that people WILL MESS IT UP, that they are uncontrollable, they are not disciplined enough in the Western societies, and because of that, the pandemic will be devastating.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector



hesright


the chicoms ALL wear masks around here, the non-chicoms only where compulsory.

unfortunately it seems that through the destruction of quality education western people became stupid ass uncontrollable POS monkeys while it seems asians have the brain capacity to understand wtf is going on.
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Can't believe this stupid thread is still going...

Give it up.

Scamdeic = Fail

OP is a dipshit troll... maybe a bot.
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I will let this post stay here, to be proof of why human stupidity is going to be the driving factor in ruining our civilization.
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Can't believe this stupid thread is still going...

Give it up.

Scamdeic = Fail

OP is a dipshit troll... maybe a bot.
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I will let this post stay here, to be proof of why human stupidity is going to be the driving factor in ruining our civilization.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


A very sad testimony of why mankind fails to realize its potential.

I hope the moron that wrote that does not get one of his relatives killed by the virus.
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...


I posted last night at the Covid thread.

I'm in So Cal and we went into closures of most businesses again.

I went out to top up some items. Our Sam's Club was missing a lot. Paper goods gone again. Produce at best about 90% gone. Seafood and meat about 50% and rationed.

Media black out. Farm workers are more than likely sick. Fruits are not being picked. Fruits and veggies are low grade at the moment.

Anyway, here are the pictures I took. Something is off because in late May-June our stores are running well and no more shortages.

[link to imgur.com]
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That is crazy, wow. Thanks for posting.

I'm also in socal, LA area. I had gone last week to my local Ralphs and I noticed all paper towels were gone, all rubbing alcohol was still gone (and has been since March), TP was very low and still very expensive, canned vegetables and pasta were sparse.
 Quoting: Vegz


I was in 2 stores in Santa Cruz. They were fully stocked with vegetables and proeuc. I was able to get disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer. Add I grabbed another 2 bags of King Arthur bread flour.
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We'll see how everything pans out. Could be small regional JIT issues.

I concur, Santa Cruz the missing items in March and April are on the shelves i.e hand sanitizer a and cleaning products.

It's the perishables and paper products that are more in shortage. Shelf stable items are ok-rice, grains, canned items.

I'm just sharing. Grow the garden and take advantage of the weather. If the farming community is sick, we are in for an awakening
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I haven't seen any shortage of produce in the Central Valley or the 2 stores in Santa Cruz. They were piled high with produce. It might just be the big box stores not able to bulk purchase.
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it's a sanctuary city, and lib state outbreak
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I have been in grocery stores in at least 4 different cities, all differently owned. They well stocked all things considered. Nice try with a cheap shot though.
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Sam's on the Front Range is fairly well stocked, but the rows in the center of the store seems like they took 2 or 3 out and spread the rest to fill the space.

Paper products are there, meat is there but expensive.

On the West Coast, near Sacramento, products in Sam's are sparse and basic items, like bread, are out.

Not sure why there's such disparity between different locations of the same store corporation.
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It is because they are fragmenting, cycling and reshuffle the supply.

One week, they supply some stores with A,B,C, the others with D,E,F, and so on, the next week they swap, or mix the products, and so on, and so on.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


DR is correct. They buy in huge quantities that cannot be sent to all stores at once right now. In the old days, Sam's and Costco could buy huge pallets of food and ship them to stores at once. Now, they must choose who gets the benefit of any particular bulk purchase.
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Sorry to hear it, Joe Preps.


I am even more sorry that Miami-Dade county will not lock-down for another 2 weeks or so.


It MUST get worse, until people realize what no lock-down actually means, and start asking for a lock-down.


Politicians...always playing both hands, and never lose. They will let it get worse, so they can lock-down w/o being blamed for it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


This is what a sheriff did in a nearby county. Made some huge post about how masks are a violation of liberties and on and on. Everyone cheered him on. Then, the county's case count went sky high. Now, the sheriff predictably recommends masks and urges people to take heed. I guess he wants to be reelected.
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Thank you for the update, DR. It is painful to watch great nations fall to utter stupidity. It's nice to know, however, that there are good people all over the world who will help pick up the pieces when the time comes.
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Hello DR, hello everyone

First of all i would like to commend the effort you spent into this thread and congratulate you on the great job and the spot-on predictions.
I would also kindly ask if it could be possible to offer some information on Romania in particular. I know that it is a small scale aspect and that so far your predictions were about Europe and the Americas. Still being a citizen of Romania I am very much curious to know how you see the events unfolding here.

Thanks very much in advance and keep up the great work.
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Because my trusted independently thinking friend is from Beijing and begged me to wear one to stay safe even offering me one of her few, I wore a mask before anyone. The looks I got! Never got sick though; people stayed away from me.

My university degree is in biology/minor in psychology, and the only thing the masks are doing is slowing the virus, mostly by keeping people out of stores and apart with the constant psychological reminder and mild torment. No one shops for "fun" wearing a mask. As long as we have the masks, the pandemic is real for most people; countless friends and family are still in "hiding".

There is no regulation on material or anything as long as your face is "covered"; this is mostly a psych-op.

If herd immunity were met now during the summer (where people have the best chances at recovery), it would save countless lives and possibly (depending on moving strains or other viruses) another wave in the fall. It's very hard to meet herd immunity like this.

Remember these things:

1. Politicians are only about power and money

2. The media does not care about lives whatsoever, they are convinced humans are killing the planet

3. Look at all angles and think for yourselves, try to find firsthand witnesses to every sensational story.

PS> Daughter flew to and from Texas a couple weeks ago; got strep throat, tested NEGATIVE for Covid-19. Is now fine.
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I had trouble wrapping my head around this and then remembered the immune modulating effects of low dose naltrexone. I found the actual study. Interesting. Thanks for posting.

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Hello DR, hello everyone

First of all i would like to commend the effort you spent into this thread and congratulate you on the great job and the spot-on predictions.
I would also kindly ask if it could be possible to offer some information on Romania in particular. I know that it is a small scale aspect and that so far your predictions were about Europe and the Americas. Still being a citizen of Romania I am very much curious to know how you see the events unfolding here.

Thanks very much in advance and keep up the great work.
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For Romania, I expect 900 (give it or take) cases a day sometime at the end of July, beginning of August, and close to 2k cases / day sometimes at the end of August.


I expect the epicenters to be in 2-4 major cities, one being the capital city of Bucharest.


I do not see a return to lock-down before October. Schools will not open in September. I see cities and counties being locked-down before September. However, I don't see how they will lock-down Bucharest, which will be the main epicenter.


They will probably not lock it down, unless a nation-wide lock-down is implemented.


The cases might be lower, if the restrictions are rolled back to Phase 1, where all the gatherings are banned, all restaurants, pubs, gyms,etc. closed for public, all malls closed again, except grocery and essential stores, churches closed, etc.


Will see how things will evolve, but I am not optimistic.

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Sam's on the Front Range is fairly well stocked, but the rows in the center of the store seems like they took 2 or 3 out and spread the rest to fill the space.

Paper products are there, meat is there but expensive.

On the West Coast, near Sacramento, products in Sam's are sparse and basic items, like bread, are out.

Not sure why there's such disparity between different locations of the same store corporation.
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It is because they are fragmenting, cycling and reshuffle the supply.

One week, they supply some stores with A,B,C, the others with D,E,F, and so on, the next week they swap, or mix the products, and so on, and so on.
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The Sam's on the Front Range has always been well stocked. The one near Crapramento is usually short.
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For Romania, I expect 900 (give it or take) cases a day sometime at the end of July, beginning of August, and close to 2k cases / day sometimes at the end of August.


I expect the epicenters to be in 2-4 major cities, one being the capital city of Bucharest.


I do not see a return to lock-down before October. Schools will not open in September. I see cities and counties being locked-down before September. However, I don't see how they will lock-down Bucharest, which will be the main epicenter.


They will probably not lock it down, unless a nation-wide lock-down is implemented.


The cases might be lower, if the restrictions are rolled back to Phase 1, where all the gatherings are banned, all restaurants, pubs, gyms,etc. closed for public, all malls closed again, except grocery and essential stores, churches closed, etc.


Will see how things will evolve, but I am not optimistic.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Thank you very much for your swift reply.
Sadly I believe there is no room for optimism in the current state of affairs, especially seeing how a vast majority of the general population blatantly ignores the recommendations and even deny the very existence of the virus itself.
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Stay safe everyone.

I will keep following your work and this thread.

Have a nice evening.

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For Romania, I expect 900 (give it or take) cases a day sometime at the end of July, beginning of August, and close to 2k cases / day sometimes at the end of August.


I expect the epicenters to be in 2-4 major cities, one being the capital city of Bucharest.


I do not see a return to lock-down before October. Schools will not open in September. I see cities and counties being locked-down before September. However, I don't see how they will lock-down Bucharest, which will be the main epicenter.


They will probably not lock it down, unless a nation-wide lock-down is implemented.


The cases might be lower, if the restrictions are rolled back to Phase 1, where all the gatherings are banned, all restaurants, pubs, gyms,etc. closed for public, all malls closed again, except grocery and essential stores, churches closed, etc.


Will see how things will evolve, but I am not optimistic.
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Thank you very much for your swift reply.
Sadly I believe there is no room for optimism in the current state of affairs, especially seeing how a vast majority of the general population blatantly ignores the recommendations and even deny the very existence of the virus itself.
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Stay safe everyone.

I will keep following your work and this thread.

Have a nice evening.
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I hope all is well with you party people. Since almost losing my life to Covid-19 in April, my life has been on a real bummer ride. I lost my job at the Save Mart, and have been having a hard time making ends meet. Praise Kek that I still have my van and am able to have a place to sleep. I am a little short on food and crack, but between food banks and a little shoplifting I am doing alright. Take care and I love you party people with all my heart.
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Hi DR,

Thanks for all you do.

What do you make of the infection rate in Texas seeing 10k cases a day, but the hospitalization rate plateauing, and not going up.

What you have said previously makes sense to me--this being a more contagious, less fatal strain--causing the hospitals to reach capacity.

But here in Texas, the hospitalizations don't seem to be going up any longer.

I can't wrap my head around it. Do you think we have already experienced the uptick in cases due to the 4th of July?

Thanks
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Sorry to hear it, Joe Preps.


I am even more sorry that Miami-Dade county will not lock-down for another 2 weeks or so.


It MUST get worse, until people realize what no lock-down actually means, and start asking for a lock-down.


Politicians...always playing both hands, and never lose. They will let it get worse, so they can lock-down w/o being blamed for it.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Ohio’s governor’s press briefing today was essentially this set up. Ask, virtually beg, people to wear masks and when they don’t he will let it burn a bit longer to show how he was right. And then will lock it down once he has enough support from the citizens. For a politician it is the only way to play the game.

Based on the info you’ve provided DR, I would expect it to last two weeks or less.

Do you think the virus increased in transmissibility due to the lockdowns? And how long until we can expect the Covid deaths to start increasing?

My concern is that as long as the virus isn’t killing, most will consider it to be “just the flu”.
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I pop into FB once a day to check on family. Amazing how many people are either adamant this is a hoax, or have the idea that "meh, everyone will get it", and just throw any care to the wind.

Whatever ..............

Cannot help them.
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You can only follow your own guidance, and pray for the rest.

In the same situation here, but I don't FB. Just talking to them in person.cattheend





GLP