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SpinalCracker
User ID: 78892661 United States 09/22/2020 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The virus circulating in Italy is still the old one (the one from March, with a positivity rate of 1-2%) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79391998 The virus that is invading western and Central Europe is the American one (with a rate of 10%) Perhaps Italy has gained some immunity against the new virus thanks to the severity of the previous outbreak But didn't the "American" one originate in Italy? Predominantly blowing up in New York due to high travel between the US and Italy (NY has a large Italian population). Yes, that's why new york has a low number of cases New York is the exact proof of what I'm saying. Like Italy it has been severely hit in March and now despite the outbreaks in other US states has very few cases I suppose the 'American one'has originated in Mexico or Central America rural NY STATE is at wave 1 and climbing steadily. low #'s for now but climbing.with schools opening we are seeing more cases. Erie County is still under "yellow flag". I had to go to post office yesterday and sat outside for a bit in my car. 75% of people going into post office either no mask, or mask with nose hanging out. I feel like we are never going to get out of this because of these assholes. It's so frustrating! Went and bought a good 50lbs of meat yesterday to pack my shiny new freezer for Winter! A whole new level of fuckery |
ParamedicUK
User ID: 79399368 United Kingdom 09/22/2020 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These will work - not!! What are the latest changes in England? Pubs, bars and restaurants to close at 22:00 BST They will also be restricted to table service only People should work from home wherever possible Face masks compulsory for bar staff and seated customers, shop workers, waiters and taxi drivers Limit on guests at weddings reduced from 30 to 15 Plans to allow fans to return to sporting events paused "Rule of six" now applies indoor team sports Fines for not wearing masks or following rules increased to £200 for first offence Lip service !!! Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77135970 Netherlands 09/22/2020 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to make a post but, what gives with the Netherlands? What are they doing over there? Are they trying to get OP's Oktoberfest party started early? [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] September 21 cases: 2217. That high bar will be higher tomorrow at 2245 when the chart updates. If this virus doesn't mutate itself away and we do a chart like this in the states, there won't need to be another lockdown, the economy will lock itself down out of sheer fear. Talk'in bout the infection/inflection point. Turn that dial all the way. Shoot me like a rocket into space. |
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User ID: 77771189 United States 09/22/2020 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28305272 Erie County is still under "yellow flag". I had to go to post office yesterday and sat outside for a bit in my car. 75% of people going into post office either no mask, or mask with nose hanging out. I feel like we are never going to get out of this because of these assholes. It's so frustrating! Went and bought a good 50lbs of meat yesterday to pack my shiny new freezer for Winter! yep,can see the virus moving around the lake from OH. [link to infection2020.com (secure)] JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
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User ID: 76933812 Chile 09/22/2020 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know what database are you looking at, the one I follow show 80K+ for today. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79366620 Australia 09/23/2020 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caught this in other thread. I thought the UK was going to resist new Lockdowns and it seems they are already talking of a six months lockdown. The fine for lockdown breach (I got that from yet another thread) would be of up to 13.000 pounds. Interesting if this happens. 13 pounds !!!! OMG The bastards. JK |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 09/23/2020 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waiting for an update Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79409170 Half of Europe is already planning a lockdown. The other half hopes for a delay I refrain to make an update until Sunday, at the earliest. My planned update is September 30th or October 1st. I am already working on it, because it is a big one. Don't wanna miss any aspects, and the reason I wait one more week is because I expect to see sustained or rising infection rates across Europe and the U.S., as well as what new restrictions are in place by Oct. 1st., or what is planned for after Oct. 1st. There will be some developments this week (especially on the anti-pandemic measures side), and I don't want to talk before accounting for them. |
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Natural Law always wins in the end User ID: 24761162 United States 09/23/2020 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waiting for an update Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79409170 Half of Europe is already planning a lockdown. The other half hopes for a delay I refrain to make an update until Sunday, at the earliest. My planned update is September 30th or October 1st. I am already working on it, because it is a big one. Don't wanna miss any aspects, and the reason I wait one more week is because I expect to see sustained or rising infection rates across Europe and the U.S., as well as what new restrictions are in place by Oct. 1st., or what is planned for after Oct. 1st. There will be some developments this week (especially on the anti-pandemic measures side), and I don't want to talk before accounting for them. And what of India, South America, and Africa, those populations are exploding, so I don't think it will take 252 years, especially if the virus mutates, And you add in the co-lateral damage from the economic and medical overload deaths. Thread: Partial crustal shift and the Sun / earth , new EARTH UNDER FIRE video pg 116 Thread: Om frequencies, which one works for you?? If someone produces wealth and money, you have no right to tell them how to spend it.- Ayn Rand |
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User ID: 46924965 United States 09/23/2020 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waiting for an update Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79409170 Half of Europe is already planning a lockdown. The other half hopes for a delay I refrain to make an update until Sunday, at the earliest. My planned update is September 30th or October 1st. I am already working on it, because it is a big one. Don't wanna miss any aspects, and the reason I wait one more week is because I expect to see sustained or rising infection rates across Europe and the U.S., as well as what new restrictions are in place by Oct. 1st., or what is planned for after Oct. 1st. There will be some developments this week (especially on the anti-pandemic measures side), and I don't want to talk before accounting for them. Thanks DR. Appreciate your attention to detail. Things are certainly very fluid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77025132 Netherlands 09/23/2020 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to make a post but, what gives with the Netherlands? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135970 What are they doing over there? Are they trying to get OP's Oktoberfest party started early? [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] September 21 cases: 2217. That high bar will be higher tomorrow at 2245 when the chart updates. If this virus doesn't mutate itself away and we do a chart like this in the states, there won't need to be another lockdown, the economy will lock itself down out of sheer fear. Talk'in bout the infection/inflection point. Turn that dial all the way. Shoot me like a rocket into space. Dutch daily COVID cases hit new high, also pass 100,000 in all [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] September 21 cases: 2217. September 22 cases: 2245. That high bar will be higher tomorrow when the chart updates at 2357 cases. Are they not getting enough UV light up there? Too many cloudy cold days? "Prime Minister Mark Rutte to urge citizens to recover a sense of "urgency" about social distancing to slow the spread of the virus. "‘We are now at the tipping point,’ RIVM spokesman Jaap van Dissel told MPs in a face to face briefing. ‘The curve is rising.’ "‘The virus is spreading more quickly that we can scale up,’ De Gouw said. Read more at DutchNews.nl Those Dutch guys have cool names. Jaap van Dissel. Marinus van Veld. Though death and darkness gather all about me My ship be torn apart upon the seas For you are beautiful, and I have loved you dearly More dearly than the spoken word can tell |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812 Chile 09/23/2020 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population. It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario. Another data point for the broader analysis. [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)] [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79070068 Brazil 09/23/2020 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario. Another data point for the broader analysis. [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)] [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] Yes, I read these articles and others that appeared here in Brazilian newspapers. The most populous city in the country, São Paulo, had a total of 17 deaths by covid19 yesterday, and the people there are no longer practicing social distancing and there are no lockdowns. It is the end of pandemic, insisting that there is still a pandemic is stupidity associated with bad faith. As for the countries that are experiencing an increase in cases, it is the countries that entered the pandemic later, who enter later, leave later, it is obvious. In Manaus, the cases and deaths are practically zeroed, which reminds me when the mayor boasted in March that he would dig mass graves in cemeteries due to the thousands of deaths that would die. Here in São Paulo it was no different, the mayor said he bought 40 thousand coffins, that's right, 40 thousand extra coffins for the funeral system. It is an extreme case of impudence that was done with the people. No, I am not a pandemic denier and I do not even say that it was a "nothinburguer", it was a "somethingburguer", but it'sover, and the sooner the people know it, the better. |
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Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 09/24/2020 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario. Another data point for the broader analysis. [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)] [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] Yes, I read these articles and others that appeared here in Brazilian newspapers. The most populous city in the country, São Paulo, had a total of 17 deaths by covid19 yesterday, and the people there are no longer practicing social distancing and there are no lockdowns. It is the end of pandemic, insisting that there is still a pandemic is stupidity associated with bad faith. As for the countries that are experiencing an increase in cases, it is the countries that entered the pandemic later, who enter later, leave later, it is obvious. In Manaus, the cases and deaths are practically zeroed, which reminds me when the mayor boasted in March that he would dig mass graves in cemeteries due to the thousands of deaths that would die. Here in São Paulo it was no different, the mayor said he bought 40 thousand coffins, that's right, 40 thousand extra coffins for the funeral system. It is an extreme case of impudence that was done with the people. No, I am not a pandemic denier and I do not even say that it was a "nothinburguer", it was a "somethingburguer", but it'sover, and the sooner the people know it, the better. It looks like Brazil has finished wave 1. They need to take this time to prepare for wave 2. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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User ID: 36890350 United States 09/24/2020 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario. Another data point for the broader analysis. [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)] [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] Yes, I read these articles and others that appeared here in Brazilian newspapers. The most populous city in the country, São Paulo, had a total of 17 deaths by covid19 yesterday, and the people there are no longer practicing social distancing and there are no lockdowns. It is the end of pandemic, insisting that there is still a pandemic is stupidity associated with bad faith. As for the countries that are experiencing an increase in cases, it is the countries that entered the pandemic later, who enter later, leave later, it is obvious. In Manaus, the cases and deaths are practically zeroed, which reminds me when the mayor boasted in March that he would dig mass graves in cemeteries due to the thousands of deaths that would die. Here in São Paulo it was no different, the mayor said he bought 40 thousand coffins, that's right, 40 thousand extra coffins for the funeral system. It is an extreme case of impudence that was done with the people. No, I am not a pandemic denier and I do not even say that it was a "nothinburguer", it was a "somethingburguer", but it'sover, and the sooner the people know it, the better. People in the U.K., France, Netherlands thought the same thing....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77987078 Netherlands 09/24/2020 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario. Another data point for the broader analysis. [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)] [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] Yes, I read these articles and others that appeared here in Brazilian newspapers. The most populous city in the country, São Paulo, had a total of 17 deaths by covid19 yesterday, and the people there are no longer practicing social distancing and there are no lockdowns. It is the end of pandemic, insisting that there is still a pandemic is stupidity associated with bad faith. As for the countries that are experiencing an increase in cases, it is the countries that entered the pandemic later, who enter later, leave later, it is obvious. In Manaus, the cases and deaths are practically zeroed, which reminds me when the mayor boasted in March that he would dig mass graves in cemeteries due to the thousands of deaths that would die. Here in São Paulo it was no different, the mayor said he bought 40 thousand coffins, that's right, 40 thousand extra coffins for the funeral system. It is an extreme case of impudence that was done with the people. No, I am not a pandemic denier and I do not even say that it was a "nothinburguer", it was a "somethingburguer", but it'sover, and the sooner the people know it, the better. It looks like Brazil has finished wave 1. They need to take this time to prepare for wave 2. Maybe. The article WAS interesting. But I doubt places like Brazil or New Zealand can be used as a viral metric or a case book litmus test for the majority of the northern hemisphere. It would be less of a challenge for a leader to lockdown an island, or how the leader of Brazil was a poor example of how to conduct oneself during a global pandemic. Plus aren't the majority of Brazilians dark skinned? Old people, obese people and dark skinned people are less successful in the metabolizing of serum vitamin d from the UV light. Lucky for the southern hemisphere, now their days are getting longer. Our hours of UV light are getting shorter as we approach December 21 (Flu Season) There was an email cited by DR Campbell claiming that Fauci stated he takes 6000 iu of vitamin d per day. But my excitement for the Brazilians would be tempered more by this: "Humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not last long in individuals who had mild infections, and the loss of antibodies may actually be quicker than reported previously for the virus, according to investigators from the David Geffen School of Medicine, University of California, Los Angeles. “The results call for caution regarding antibody-based “immunity passports,” herd immunity, and perhaps vaccine durability, especially in light of short-lived immunity against common human coronaviruses,” the investigators commented in a letter to the editor in the New England Journal of Medicine.The first measurement of the IgG levels was obtained a mean of 37 days (range, 18-65 days) after symptom onset and the last measurement a mean of 86 days (44-119 days) after symptom onset. Analysis of the meabeautiful, beautiful black man levels indicated a half-life of the antibody level of about 36 days over the observation period. “The protective role of antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 is unknown, but these antibodies are usually a reasonable correlate of antiviral immunity, and anti-receptor-binding domain antibody levels correspond to plasma viral neutralizing activity,” investigators said. “Our findings raise concern that humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not be long lasting in persons with mild illness, who compose the majority of persons with Covid-19. It is difficult to extrapolate beyond our observation period of approximately 90 days because it is likely that the decay will decelerate.” "The investigators advise caution when considering herd immunity and vaccine durability and look to future studies to determine a quantitative protection threshold and rate of decline of antiviral antibodies beyond 90 days. [link to www.ophthalmologytimes.com (secure)] I call danger Will Robinson. Your "herd immunity", if you want to call it that, may only have a half life of 36 days. The Brazilian's "immunity passport", may soon be revoked. Maybe this is what dictates the starting and stopping of the "waves" amongst a jurisdictional populace. Distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves. Singing to an ocean, I can hear the ocean roar. Singing about the good things and the sun that lights the day I used to sing on the mountains, has the ocean lost its way… I don't know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78576165 United States 09/24/2020 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario. Another data point for the broader analysis. [link to www.technologyreview.com (secure)] [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] Yes, I read these articles and others that appeared here in Brazilian newspapers. The most populous city in the country, São Paulo, had a total of 17 deaths by covid19 yesterday, and the people there are no longer practicing social distancing and there are no lockdowns. It is the end of pandemic, insisting that there is still a pandemic is stupidity associated with bad faith. As for the countries that are experiencing an increase in cases, it is the countries that entered the pandemic later, who enter later, leave later, it is obvious. In Manaus, the cases and deaths are practically zeroed, which reminds me when the mayor boasted in March that he would dig mass graves in cemeteries due to the thousands of deaths that would die. Here in São Paulo it was no different, the mayor said he bought 40 thousand coffins, that's right, 40 thousand extra coffins for the funeral system. It is an extreme case of impudence that was done with the people. No, I am not a pandemic denier and I do not even say that it was a "nothinburguer", it was a "somethingburguer", but it'sover, and the sooner the people know it, the better. At the expense of many lives lost maybe the virus has run its course. Ran out of hosts doesn't seem such a victory. I'm curious, how many long haulers are still suffering from the virus's damage to their organs and their brains? How many will suffer from those permanent damage and die from the complications related to the virus? This is now going to be an ethical crisis on how govs will help the long haulers affected by the virus burning through the countries unchecked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77987125 Netherlands 09/24/2020 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to make a post but, what gives with the Netherlands? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135970 What are they doing over there? Are they trying to get OP's Oktoberfest party started early? [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] September 21 cases: 2217. That high bar will be higher tomorrow at 2245 when the chart updates. If this virus doesn't mutate itself away and we do a chart like this in the states, there won't need to be another lockdown, the economy will lock itself down out of sheer fear. Talk'in bout the infection/inflection point. Turn that dial all the way. Shoot me like a rocket into space. Dutch daily COVID cases hit new high, also pass 100,000 in all [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] September 21 cases: 2217. September 22 cases: 2245. That high bar will be higher tomorrow when the chart updates at 2357 cases. Are they not getting enough UV light up there? Too many cloudy cold days? "Prime Minister Mark Rutte to urge citizens to recover a sense of "urgency" about social distancing to slow the spread of the virus. "‘We are now at the tipping point,’ RIVM spokesman Jaap van Dissel told MPs in a face to face briefing. ‘The curve is rising.’ "‘The virus is spreading more quickly that we can scale up,’ De Gouw said. Read more at DutchNews.nl Those Dutch guys have cool names. Jaap van Dissel. Marinus van Veld. Though death and darkness gather all about me My ship be torn apart upon the seas For you are beautiful, and I have loved you dearly More dearly than the spoken word can tell September 13 1087 September 14 1300 September 15 1379 September 16 1542 September 17 1753 September 18 1974 They've already displayed their ability to perform 5 days of increases in a row. Will they do it again? September 21 cases: 2217. September 22 cases: 2245. September 23 cases: 2357. September 24 cases: 2544. September 25 cases: ???? The tall bar on this graph will be taller tomorrow when it updates at 2544. [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] "Hans Heesterbeek told the AD coroanvirus is spreading out from the central urban belt ‘like an oil leak’, he said. ‘This is not something you can solve with regional measures. People are travelling from one region to another. There is too much mingling for regional measures to be effective.’ "Bart Berden, director of the Elisabeth-TweeSteden hospital in Tilburg, said that he too considered national measures are the only option, if ministers decide to intervene. ‘What is the point in having regional measures if you see that the regions are becoming more similar in terms of infection rates?,’ he said to the paper. "Last Friday, prime minister Mark Rutte announced that bars and cafes in the six worst affected areas would have to close their doors at midnight, and brought in new limits on numbers at organised gatherings. Read more at DutchNews.nl. Atta-boy Rutte, closing the bars at midnight ought to do it. Cop's face is filled with hate Heavens above, he's on a street called love When will they ever learn? Old cop, young cop, feel alright On a warm San Franciscan night Do you want a mask? [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] |
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