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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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My opinion:
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I recently ordered a SilverGen colloidal silver maker and will be using that for the duration. It's completely automated, just push the on switch and it turns itself off when the solution is finished.

I have read somewhere that some people use colloidal ionic gold instead of silver.

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Europe wants to block kaliningrad. Russia cannot consent. I don't know if they will choose to block gas and oil to Europe or a military action. The center of gravity of the war goes from the black sea to the Baltic sea.

WW3 maybe imminent.
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Europe wants to block kaliningrad. Russia cannot consent. I don't know if they will choose to block gas and oil to Europe or a military action. The center of gravity of the war goes from the black sea to the Baltic sea.

WW3 maybe imminent.
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My previous comment that I don't see the war as being imminent was posted before Lithuania chose a suicidal path.


I say a path, and not straight up a suicidal bullet, because what they did is not enough to justify a Russian military action, but it is just one step from that.


Stopping 40-50% of the Russian rail supplies to Kaliningrad is not exactly a cassus belli, if we are talking morally. If we are talking LEGALLY, Russia is justified in invading Lithuania and secure a corridor between Belarus and Kaliningrad, because Lithuania shat on the treaty between them and Russia, which stipulates UNRESTRICTED traffic of goods and people between Russia and Kaliningrad across Lithuanian proper, and this unrestricted traffic is one of the KEY articles in the treaty which Russia recognizes Lithianian sovereignity and independence.



Basically, Russia can, LEGALLY, at any moment, invade Lithuania and secure a corridor for traffic between Belarus and Kaliningrad, and article NATO 5 cannot be activated (legally, at least), because bilateral treaties between countries surpass any other treaties.



What will Russia do?



It will wait, as long as they consider (and we have no idea how much time, could be days, maybe weeks, but not months), giving leeway to Lithuania to come to their senses and cancel this stupid move they did.



But if they do not, Russia will invade Lithuania, after the State Duma takes notice of Lithuania breaking the treaty and votes to un-recognize Lithuania as a sovereign state.



We won't see months of military build-up, like in Ukraine. Russia is already on war-footing, Lithuania is a MIDGET (3 million people, 15,000 troops). The Russian troops deployed in Belarus and Russia are already in position to strike Lithuania, not to mention that Kaliningrad have plenty of firepower and manpower to deal with Lithuania.

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Russia can claim the Lithuanian blockade is an act of war, which also nullifies Article 5.
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I hope it does not sadden you to see when people are trying to inform themselves.

I didn't know Russia actually intended to join NATO, as the idea seems to strange and counter-intuitive. Wasn't NATO created to protect the western nations against the expansion of communism? Admittedly that was the then USSR.

Who exactly vetoed Russia's entry into NATO?

Not everyone can be an expert in military matters from the start, DR...
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Russia approached the U.S. for entering NATO. It wasn't an official process, just Russian proposal to the U.S. to join NATO.


The U.S. said nope. They gave some stupid reasons, but everyone knows that the U.S. cannot accept an equal in NATO, especially Russia.


Globalist elite are ruling the U.S., and the U.S. does what the globalist tell them to do.
...
 Quoting: Recollector

So in fact, it was not the US that said no, it was the globalists behind the US.

When did this happen? Who was the US spokesman or intermediate?
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The U.S. is the spearhead of globalist elites since 1947. Every single president was and is under their payroll since.


Exception : Trump.


And because he didn't was with them, he got removed. And won't come back, ever.
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What preceded the US, OP?

My guess is the British Empire, and behind them, their secret societies (including Freemasons).

And why are you so certain Trump won't come back?
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lago whats this spam bro are this some kind of coded message or you just think ure posting in other thread??
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Its a coded message.
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Please stop. It's annoying.
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It's not. It's amazing.

And it's probably what keeps some posters coming back....
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Op russia has cut the gas to Europe. Maybe the war is imminent?
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War is inevitable, as for imminent, I don't see it yet.


As I said previously, unless the West does something really stupid, that forces Russia to strike outside Ukraine, war is "postponed" until China is ready for it.



I do not know how and when the direct (not via proxy) war will start, could be after China attacks Taiwan, engages the U.S. forces in the Pacific, then Russia strikes U.S. and U.K. targets in Europe, could be Russia doing the first strike, then China, could be both in the same time.



What I do know is that Russia doesn't need China to win a war in Europe, but it will take A LOT OF TIME and destruction (on both sides), and the victory could be a symbolic one, with Russia, Europe and the U.S. in ruins.


However, with China also in the war, they can win faster and avoid at least a massive destruction of involved countries, and the chances peace BEFORE nukes fly are much higher if both Russia and China are united vs. the U.S. (because NATO without the U.S. is irrelevant, and because the U.S. is actually THE TARGET, not Europe).



Can war be avoided?



Yes, it can, if there is a change in Washington's policy toward Russia, be it by replacing the entire political class, or Bidet & Co. realize that they will lose in the end, and choose to LOSE faster, but avoiding a nuclear war.
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This russian shill again...

stir
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what do you think about this statement of Medvedev?

Deputy chairman of the #Russian Security Council Dmitry #Medvedev:
"This is something that has already happened. There are different ways of looking at it, but we can assume that the 'horsemen of the Apocalypse' are on their way and all hope is in the Lord God, the Almighty."

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There is only one way that I, or anyone else, should read this somewhat poetic wording.


And that is that IF there is going to be an attack on Russian soil from western delivered weapons, the Russian response will be a military response against U.S. targets, which will mean a direct conflict between the U.S.& NATO and Russia, that could lead to WW3.



So, yes, the Horsemen of the Apocalypse are on their way, and if the Ukrainians will (and they will, in my opinion) use HIMARS to hit Russia, Russia will hit back at U.S. targets, which can be anything from U.S. bases in Europe, to Pentagon HQ in Washington.


The U.S. response will determine if the Horsemen, which are on their way, will actually arrive.
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DR, at least one of your posts has been removed. I assume you deleted it. I hope you will continue posting your analysis of the situation on your doorstep.

May God protect you.
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Which one was it? I didn't notice anything.
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Op russia has cut the gas to Europe. Maybe the war is imminent?
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War is inevitable, as for imminent, I don't see it yet.


As I said previously, unless the West does something really stupid, that forces Russia to strike outside Ukraine, war is "postponed" until China is ready for it.



I do not know how and when the direct (not via proxy) war will start, could be after China attacks Taiwan, engages the U.S. forces in the Pacific, then Russia strikes U.S. and U.K. targets in Europe, could be Russia doing the first strike, then China, could be both in the same time.



What I do know is that Russia doesn't need China to win a war in Europe, but it will take A LOT OF TIME and destruction (on both sides), and the victory could be a symbolic one, with Russia, Europe and the U.S. in ruins.


However, with China also in the war, they can win faster and avoid at least a massive destruction of involved countries, and the chances peace BEFORE nukes fly are much higher if both Russia and China are united vs. the U.S. (because NATO without the U.S. is irrelevant, and because the U.S. is actually THE TARGET, not Europe).



Can war be avoided?



Yes, it can, if there is a change in Washington's policy toward Russia, be it by replacing the entire political class, or Bidet & Co. realize that they will lose in the end, and choose to LOSE faster, but avoiding a nuclear war.
 Quoting: Recollector


This russian shill again...

stir
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Why a Russian shill?

Maybe he just has a better understanding of that stuff than you have.... even if you don't like it. He could still be right.
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Op russia has cut the gas to Europe. Maybe the war is imminent?
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War is inevitable, as for imminent, I don't see it yet.


As I said previously, unless the West does something really stupid, that forces Russia to strike outside Ukraine, war is "postponed" until China is ready for it.

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This russian shill again...

stir
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Shill? Really? The creator of the thread is a Russian shill….you are an idiot. If you actually read the thread and by reading, I mean understanding what is being said, you will see Recollector is not a fan of Russia, not a fan of Putin and not for the invasion of Ukrainian.

The problem is there are too many mindless people like you that can’t objectively read/listen and digest what is being said. You need to immediately take side when the discussion is an objectively view of what has happen and where it could go. It has nothing to do with shilling or taking a side. I can’t stand people that won’t freaking listen and that can’t have a open discussion without taking a side. Just go away and let those that actually think and want multiple perspectives to have a discussion free of mindless shills like yourself.
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Which one was it? I didn't notice anything.
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Back on the sixth, the guys on the other thread don't like facts so they banned DR from their thread.

So DR made a short comment over here about it and then removed the comment a short time later.
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Which one was it? I didn't notice anything.
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Back on the sixth, the guys on the other thread don't like facts so they banned DR from their thread.

So DR made a short comment over here about it and then removed the comment a short time later.
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I was wondering also. Thanks for the clarification.
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The next several days come with a high risk of direct conflict between NATO and Russia.


The goal of the globalists was for Russia to be economically weakened and militarily weakened, working in tandem.


Ukraine MIGHT BE on the brink of falling, militarily.


Azovstal surrendering could be the first domino in a series of surrendering in several key garrisons (Marinka, Advivka, Sieverodonetsk, Lyman), which will trigger a general surrendering across the entire front.


If this will happen (I give it a good chance), get ready.


Hungary is not going to suicide by accepting the oil ban. While there is a chance that they can be forced, I think that time has passed, and Orban is not going to fold.


Turkey is going to veto Sweden into NATO, and possibly Finland as well. Turkey and Kurds are archenemies, and money is not going to convince Erdogan to forgo Sweden's love for PKK and their rejections of Turkey's requests.

But, as I said in my last update, Turkey have multiple options, and while I believe that they will veto Sweden, there are ways that they will just accept it.



What we are witnessing is a 3 month old propaganda that the West is united, NATO is stronger then ever, and Ukraine army is full of cyborgs and heroes, beating the Russians to a pulp 24/7, failing. HARD.


However, in reality, we are witnessing a weak West (Hungary opposing oil ban, Poland yelling and screaming like a little bitch "it's all or nothing!", Turkey veto Sweden and Ukraine facing a potential cascade of surrendering garrisons and possibly full capitulation or massive losses of territories and manpower.


NOT A GOOD TIME FOR THE GLOBALISTS.



Russia used a 200 years old military tactic. Ukraine and NATO fell for it. They faked attacks on multiple axes in North and North East, while grinding the Ukrainians in South and East.


Their demilitarization of Ukraine goal could never be achieved by multi-front attacks. But faking attacks on Kiev and Kharkov (and everything in between), they split the UKR army in multiple areas, where fights never passed the skirmish intensity, while slowly, but surely, grinding 500-600 UKR troops/day in the South and East with artillery.


Then they withdraw from the North...but not Kharkov. Doing this, they gave UKR the option to move some fresh troops to the meat grinder in South and East. And Russian artillery did its job.


Then they started to withdraw from Kharkov, and UKR sent more troops to the meat grinder.


In the process, Russia realized TWO MAJOR THINGS :

1.Formed a CONTINUOUS FRONT LINE in the South and East, where they now have ALL THEIR FORCES. The need to fake more attacks is over. Now Russia will SWEEP across Eastern Ukraine, and OF COURSE they will go back to Kharkov, but this time, they will GET IT, and not FAKING IT.

2.They killed 50-60,000 UKR troops, many being veterans, slowly but surely, while encircling multiple garrisons, numbering at least 20,000 more troops combined, all being the elite of UKR army, hardened in Dombass. The only serious garrison remaining will be Slavyansk-Kramatorsk one, which will surrender / retreat / be eliminated.



Me, personally, looking at this DISASTER on three fronts: European economic oil ban, NATO possibly forcing Turkey out or at least SHOW THE WORLD that they are not united if Turkey vetoes and the potential cascade surrender of mutiple UKR garrisons, I believe that there is a HIGH CHANGE that the globalists will start the war BEFORE all the above will happen or are about to happen.


Hang on to your seats people.


If we get past next 4-5 days, we're going to get a little bit more time before the inevitable, time that I strongly suggest to be spent by preparing even more.
 Quoting: Recollector



This is what I have posted 5 weeks ago.



Time's up.



Events taking place in the last 24 hrs, but especially in the last 12 hours, point to a disorganized retreat of UKR armed forces in Donbass (the only forces that actually matter), which will start a domino effect across entire UKR army.


At this point, it is almost a given that RF army, along DPR and LPR forces will overrun the first line of defense (Severodonetsk, Lysychansk, Hirske, zolote) and highly likely the second one (Slavyanks, Kramatork, Bakhmut).



Ukraine army, if Russian forces do indeed go for a massive overrun attack, will be virtually destroyed, and what will be left (UKR Territorial Defense Forces) are no match for Russians.



If my theory is correct, I expect a massive 3 axes Russian attack in a few days : one towards Slavyanks-Kramatork-Bakhmut line, another on Kharkov and the third on Mykolayv (as a first step toward an attack on Odessa).



This is a very dangerous moment, because Ukraine will either capitulate, or have no army (good army, not militias and volunteers) to stop a sweeping Russian advance on the entire front in south and east, which will mean that Russia won...and the U.S. cannot accept that.



The ONLY way for Ukraine to be salvaged, at the risk of WW3, is a NATO intervention in the conflict.



Will the U.S. consider Ukraine important enough to enter open conflict against Russia?



We will see.
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Will the U.S. consider Ukraine important enough to enter open conflict against Russia?



We will see.
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Yes

Think we are in cold war and US in some way has troops in Ukraine

They cannot leave Ukraine once they are there. I think Russia has slowed the offensive because they know that the moment Ukrainian army will be defeated, nato would enter Ukraine

The only way out for Russia would be to Ukraine to change side and to ally with Russia
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VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE :


CORRECTION


VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE :

It’s the AMERICAN BIOWARFARE VIRUS
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lago whats this spam bro are this some kind of coded message or you just think ure posting in other thread??
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Its a coded message.
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Please stop. It's annoying.
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It's not. It's amazing.

And it's probably what keeps some posters coming back....
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It is annoying.

Actually I keep coming back for DR's comments and good discussion around that. Not someone's attempt at being clever and failing miserably. Those posts just clutter up the thread.
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Will the U.S. consider Ukraine important enough to enter open conflict against Russia?



We will see.
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Yes

Think we are in cold war and US in some way has troops in Ukraine

They cannot leave Ukraine once they are there. I think Russia has slowed the offensive because they know that the moment Ukrainian army will be defeated, nato would enter Ukraine

The only way out for Russia would be to Ukraine to change side and to ally with Russia
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Only to add the Bulgarian political crisis

No way nato could let one of his European members choose putin's (or turkey's) side

War or end of western power
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Bellow is my analysis from February 26th, (less then 48 hrs after Russian attack on Ukraine), quoted entirely from page 404. Anyone can check this, so I won't be accused of adding, removing or modifying any words.


It is almost 4 months since. Please read again what I have posted on Feb. 26th, because my analysis then, is now, after 4 months, much clearer for anyone who still though I was tripping or speculating.


I will bold the most important parts, but I suggest to read the entire update (you can skip the introduction about my past).


Before becoming an accountant, I was a student in a military school in Romania. In my first year, I was sent to the office of a Colonel, which wasn't registered in the school ranks of superior officers.

That Colonel was the head of Information and Security. I was interviewed for about 20 minutes, and after this interview (which I am not going to talk what was about), I sustained a series of tests, for about 3 hours.
At the end of this, I was sent back to continue my normal activities.

After about a week, I was sent back to that Colonel office. He told me that my test results would grant me access to training in Counter Information. If I accept, I will start my training the next day. If not, everything will stop, and I will never be offered this chance again.
I accepted, and I started my training, which was exclusively theoretic. I became part of a team, that was trained in theoretical Counter Information scenarios, on a wide range of situation, most being militarily related, some being theoretical information gathering in foreign countries.

My job in that team was to gather all the information from my colleagues, and present options to a variety of scenarios.I was extremely gifted in this area (compile data and deliver options), and because of that, I was given access to former Warsaw Pact military doctrine, that was not in any military doctrine manuals. I have learned A LOT about scenarios regarding a military conventional conflict between Warsaw Pact and NATO. Did not have access to Russian nuclear doctrine. No country except Russia had this access.


This is was what I did before choosing a civilian path, and became an accountant.


Now, on the the meat of why I believe that we are just about to see a Russia vs NATO war.



Since I was trained in Counter Information, mainly in compiling data, I am pretty well versed in propaganda, both ways, but mainly in recognizing it, and more important, in understanding if it is propaganda or counter-propaganda, which is critical in delivering options to a military superior that uses those option and deciding on the lives of soldiers that he potentially have to sent, at some point in time, under specified conditions, in a certain area, to complete a mission.

The Warsaw Pact conventional military doctrine was always based on a simple FACT : We cannot win a conventional war against NATO, unless we use everything we have and can, outside military operations. We never ever considered any nuclear strikes, be it massive or punctual, regardless of wield, because that was not our job. Our job was to win a conventional war against NATO, without nukes, but using EVERYTHING else.

Russia, at this point in time, have a nuclear doctrine, that nobody knows it. Russia have at its helm a person that is a genius, and I will not present my reasons why I consider Putin a genius, because this alone requires an entire history of WHO Putin is, and how became what he is today.

The Ukraine invasion is not about Ukraine. The Ukraine invasion is the precursor of WW3. Not because people say that, not because Putin is crazy, not because whatever reason. But because of what happened, militarily, in the months before February 22nd.

I cannot present in detail my reasoning, firstly, because I do not know the structure of the units deployed in Ukraine, those that are still not in Ukraine, but waiting to enter (or go towards Baltic countries and Poland), I do not know the munition size and type, so I would absolutely be wrong in my assessment, and secondly, even with what I know, this would be the equivalent of a 20-25 person team presenting planning and options for a massive war, which will require hundreds of pages, and hundreds of man hour work for 20-24 people.

So, I will stick with the main points, and first is that Russia deployed a force that is absolutely overkill for Ukraine, no matter what. I believe that is obvious for everyone.
Secondly, Russia is using disinformation and deception better then anyone else. While every single army worth its salt will use the same disinformation and deception, Russian have mastered it. From fake retreats, to fake losses, to delivering false information through multiple channels, false information to be presented as a "win" or a "loss" by the enemy, to propaganda and counter propaganda, Russia is currently doing everything possible to win the coming war, conventionally, while having the back-up option to use limited nuclear strikes, for purpose of discouraging , or shocking, or achieving military supremacy in one geographical area and/or a specific military area, like naval or air superiority.

Thirdly, Russia is, apparently, having problems with logistics, especially fuel. Images with "Russian" tanks or APCs "stranded" in some field because lack of fuel are appearing all over internet, and are quickly grabbed by MSM and spammed on TV screens. Russia also lost a lot of hardware, from plans, to tanks, to trucks, etc., and also thousands of casualties. I am sure that they have casualties, I am sure that they lost hardware, but most of the hardware they lost, which we can "see" on videos, lack dead bodies. One would expect dozens of dead bodies when seeing a destroyed Russia convoy. Or would expect UKR to show dozens of prisoners from that "destroyed" Russian convoy. There are no destroyed Russian convoy, in the sense that they actually were destroyed by the enemy strikes. Those destroyed Russian convoys were EMPTY, and left on the road to be destroyed. This serve as great counter-propaganda, and presents a Russian military that can suffer losses at the hand of a much weaker army...and the conclusion is that NATO will mop up the floor with Russia in a conflict, if UKR can do the damage that they BELIEVED they did.

Next, is Russia being unable to conquer certain cities, like Odessa, Mariupol, Kharkiv, etc. Or unable to secure airfields with paratroopers. All these are deceptions. While indeed Russia wants minimal civilian casualties, which they MUST achieve, still doesn't explain why they "can't" secure some cities, unless there are multiple reasons for why they "can't". We know that Azov para and foreign mercs are especially in Odessa and Mariupol, but there is a seizable Azov in Kharkiv as well. I am not saying that Russia's plan will be flawless, because there is no such thing, and mostly because I do not know the structure and number of units deployed, and even if I can ballpark this...I have no idea what Putin and his generals planned for each front and each hour of conflict.

Russia is preparing this war for AT LEAST 10 years. It is a massive task. Not the war against Ukraine, that would take a couple weeks of planning. No, the war against NATO. While in my time there was no such think as cyber-war, I can easily account for, considering it similar with sabotages, but easier to do and with much more impact in the field. Sabotages have mostly psychological impact, but cyber have both. Still, I can account for them.

When preparing for such a war, one needs to KNOW, for sure, who their allies are, who their enemies are, and who will remain neutral / partly neutral / can switch sides / etc. The MASSIVE deception of last night (Kiev assault) was exactly to see WHO does WHAT. For example, Hungary was against sanction. Today, they aren't, and they support full SWIFT Russia disconnect. Bulgaria closed their airspace for Russia before the so-called failure of Kiev assault, but Romania only did it today, AFTER the "failed" Kiev assault. All this means something for Russia. Italy, Germany, Cyprus were also against SWIFT disconnect 2 days ago, but they did 180 yesterday, BEFORE Kiev "failed" assault. This means money was at play, or blackmail, or both. I don't know why they did an 180, but Russia KNOWS exactly why. Again, all this is information, and Russian planners are using it.

There are multiple more other reasons that prove that Russia vs Ukraine is just a simple task of securing YOUR BACK, before you face off NATO. Russia, either intended or not, is making it difficult. My money are 100% on Russia faking the difficulty, to EMBOLDEN their enemies feel like they can actually do some damage (Ukraine) or win (NATO). Using only a 3rd of their forces, Chechens brought in, Putin "ill", etc. etc., all of this was carefully planed in advance.

What is happening in the world, outside Ukraine, but related to Ukraine, points to a massive clash of superpowers, and I would be a fool to think that Russia didn't planned for that well in advance. It is by the book. If I didn't had my experience (even if it was limited, only 2 years) in Counter Information, and knowledge of Warsaw Pact military doctrine, I would believe that this is Putin's craziness, or his dream of Making Russia Great Again.

It is not.


The impeding war had to happen, because one side wants total control of the world (and this includes Russia, China and India), and the other side wants a REDEFINITION of spheres of influence (Russia and China mainly). Such goals cannot be achieved without war. There were multiple avenues that were taken to solve this redefinition of spheres of influence, but all have failed.

I do not know how the coming war will look like. I do not know who will win it. What I do know is that Russia and China are MUCH BETTER prepared for it then NATO. Europe is absolutely open for grabs. NATO forces here have no chance against Russia, conventionally speaking. It will be ugly, but Russia will come on top. On the Pacific, China will take Taiwan, and will stop there. I do not know where Russia will stop, because the doctrine to beat NATO implies a cvasitotal defeat in Europe, and this can be achieved two ways :

1. Wait until enough U.S. and NATO forces are in strike range, and obliterate them, causing massive casualties, which will instantly make MULTIPLE European countries to ask for ceasefire and peace talks, while in the same hitting the U.S. homeland bases, power grid, infrastructure using tactical nuclear strikes.
2. Strike decisively multiple European countries and the U.S., before there is enough NATO force on Eastern Europe.

Do not know what Russia decides to do. Do not know if NATO will strike first. I just don't know, and nobody knows that.

What I do believe to know will happen next, is tonight and tomorrow. Russia will show that all this crap about "they can't even fuel their tanks", "UKR army is killing them Russian by the thousands", etc. was nothing but a ruse to determine who are their friends, internationally, and to give a false hope to Ukraine and NATO that Russia is actually unable to do much, and clearly not to attack a NATO country.

Monday we could ALL wake up in a very, VERY different world, and highly possible that Russia vs NATO kinetic phase would have already started.
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The EU and NATO are gathering a coalition for war with Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Friday, commenting on the granting of EU candidacy status to Ukraine and Moldova.

Speaking at a news conference in Baku following a meeting with his Azerbaijani counterpart Jeyhun Bayramov, Lavrov said the situation reminds the state of affairs before World War II when Hitler united most of the European countries for a war against the Soviet Union.

"When the Second World War was about to start, Hitler gathered most of the European countries under his banners. Now the EU and NATO are also gathering the same modern coalition for the fight, and by and large, for war with the Russian Federation. We will look at all this very carefully," he said.
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Perhaps the Supreme Court decision about abortion is the beginning of the end of globalism

Maybe trump is coming back too
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BREAKING: According to Commander Oleksandr, 80% of Ukraine's elite military unit were either killed or injured, future of it remains uncertain - Sky

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The blockade of Odessa is stopping the grain reaching the starving countries of the Mahgreb & the Near East, figures given are in the 10s of millions at risk immediately, 100s of millions soon. The President of the African Union, Erdogan of Turkey, and Salman of Saudi Arabia & others of the region are coming together to oppose the war and support peace talks.
Turkey is NATO. Strategic airbases in the south are surely essential for any NATO attempt militarily on Ukraine ? Saudi = oil, bigly !!!
Mass - thousands - stormings of the EU borders at two different locations in the past week ie Mellila Spain/Morocco, and Greece/Macedonia of migrants coming from this precise area now in the grip of, or shortly to be in the grip of, famine, might give those EU countries pause for thought. Spain and Greece and indeed Italy will see fighting on their beaches if this goes on. Are they willing ? The threat to them will grow exponentially, and quick.
The sole argument for the G7 who have just reaffirmed their commitment to support of Ukraine at any cost would seem to be that its Putin's fault for the blockade of Odessa. This is as morally bankrupt an argument in these cicumstances as can possibly be imagined.
The new move for peace talks from this quarter might have some leverage in it. What does OP think ?
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Turkey back to the western side

I don't see what could stop total war at this point
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Turkey back to the western side

I don't see what could stop total war at this point
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Turkey is on Turkey's side.

Erdogan will cast his final lot when he determines who will be the final victor.
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Russians have left snake island

This could mean two things
1- they are losing the war and are ready to sign a peace with Ukraine
2- following the Nato Madrid summit, Ukraine has lost importance for them and they are preparing for total war
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Russians have left snake island

This could mean two things
1- they are losing the war and are ready to sign a peace with Ukraine
2- following the Nato Madrid summit, Ukraine has lost importance for them and they are preparing for total war
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#1 is unlikely.

And for #2 I would be very surprised if Putin didn't already figured out that direct war with NATO is inevitable. If not now while Russia still have the hypersonic advantage, then by the end of this decade for damn sure when NATO catch up and they won't give any other option for Russia, just as happened with the current invasion of Ukraine: NATO didn't leave Putin any other choice.

Thing is, by playing purely on the defensive, Putin is raising the cost for Russia tremendously down the line.
They should be preempting the west's move, but they aren't doing any such thing. Putin dug his reels on being a Dove and avoiding escalation at all costs which seems like a big mistake, considering the declared intent of the west to destroy Russia, and it will become evident sooner or later. I don't discard that he will eventually be replaced with someone more prepared to do the hard choices for Russia.
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Russians have left snake island

This could mean two things
1- they are losing the war and are ready to sign a peace with Ukraine
2- following the Nato Madrid summit, Ukraine has lost importance for them and they are preparing for total war
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By looking on recent events in western europe, the war maschine starts to roll in the next 6-8 weeks in my opinion

Here are my speculations:

Finland and Sweden joining NATO in the upcoming weeks, completing the NATO frontline from all borders

300.000 NATO Troops deployed in eastern europe waiting for an first strike on Lithuania.

Russia will strike Luthuania to complete a landbridge to Kaliningrad.


Russia wants a full scale war against NATO.

There is no point anymore in continueing the fights in ukraine. They achichved their war goals. Eastern Ukraine has fallen to russia.

In Germany they are talking about reastablishing the conscription. Currently they don´t see the need to do it now but we will see ^^

@recollector do you have any updates for us?





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