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Our drier vents outside, but has a switch to vent inside.

It is obvious venting the virus inside is a problem.
 Quoting: stillhere


Hey just to mention for all to realise in Europe and a LOT of the world, a magority of New Tumble driers are called "condenser" tumble driers, there is not even an option to outside vent, there is no Hose etc. They have a Water container which you empty, the air is sucked in, water condences into the Container and is emptied (full of virus btw)and the air is then vented directly out of the machine via a filter, at the back or front by the door.

Um just in the real world, for a majority of people reading this, I PERSONALLY would never do as the OP described, in regards to the clothes for the very real that his own Data says not to, and you would infect the entire house.

In the real world in Britain for example 60 million people and many many parts of the world, most of Europe with Flats and such like, the Tumble drier is in or right next to the kitchen.

To follow the advice just in regards to this tumble drier thing, would as well as infect you, cost you money for no reason because there would be wasted electricity of even putting the clothes in in the first place, and why bother with the mask and all the other stuff like getting undressed and being Naked in the garden by your front doot as suggested, before entering with just a Face mask and Goggles on (whatever turns you on, might give the neighbours a shock).

In the Real world most houses do no have Porches and an area to do this, there is a Front Door and Back door, 2 doors in and out, unless you set up a tent or something.

In the REAL world it would make all other attempts when out and abaout the time involved and prep before going, coming back etc total worthless, a waste of time and money, and have no protective aspects of infection, probably increase it.

It is like putting a Lightning conductor on a tower and not plugging it into the earth, expecting it not to be struck by lightening, then moaning when the wall explodes where the copper wire ends and the current enters the building.

Just in the REAL world, I live in that is why I would never do it, and I suggest anyone who cares for their family or those they live with do the same, though you have to make your own choices of course.

GodBless.
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Your concerns dont match with the gravity of the situation.

You think being naked in public is going to be of worry? You will possibly bear witness to the darkest acts of man possible. Yet you are concerned about your electrical bill and the neighbors opinion of you being naked.

Good luck, perhaps your "God" will intervene in your case as you clearly are not grasping the situation unfolding in the real world.

Please dont bless me, as I have seen what "God" is capable of, this is why he only exists in the developed countries.

Where I come from, "God", is not a resort.

I will be your friend when the Lord doesnt answer you in the coming weeks, maybe not now.

-001
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lol.

Slam dunk and wicked awesome
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Another idea is to put clothes in a black plastic bag and tie it tightly closed with air inside and hanging it on a clothesline in the sun. The temperature inside will get quite hot.

Or place in an oven bag and cook inside your oven or in a solar oven might work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13585916


Black plastic bag, tightly tied, in the trunk of a car in the sun on a hot day?
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That may help in August... in February not so much at least for those of us in the northern hemisphere.
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Had a feeling as I first started to read this thread.

Come on home Janey, all is forgiven. Come on home GHQ.
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Another idea is to put clothes in a black plastic bag and tie it tightly closed with air inside and hanging it on a clothesline in the sun. The temperature inside will get quite hot.

Or place in an oven bag and cook inside your oven or in a solar oven might work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13585916


Black plastic bag, tightly tied, in the trunk of a car in the sun on a hot day?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78440777


AC 13585916...

NO

Just NO.
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still here and lurking...keep posting kind sir or madam
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Same here.hiding2
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Had a feeling as I first started to read this thread.

Come on home Janey, all is forgiven. Come on home GHQ.
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Where is that crazy hermaphrodite? He is missed. He was GLP as much as Trinity, Chip, Jake or Hoo Lee Fuck? He was the leader of the Fandango Rangers!LS-andsoitbegins
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The bioweapon field testing industry is booming.
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Krispy, just where are you?
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Does freezing kill it?
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Hello -001.

Thank you SO much for your input here.

I am a simple woman who doesn't understand medical
or chemistry related things very well.

So, my two questions are, what did you mean by
"A Warning, not data", and also, how many Americans do
you think are NOW infected with this? What would you do
if you were here in America right now?

Thank you so much for being on the front lines of trying
to educate, as well as your efforts (and your colleagues efforts), of racing for understanding and a cure.

I hope China will give more truthful data to you all.
 Quoting: Bunnygrunt


+1

Great question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78340688



I am in America right now. I use a VPN.

To answer that, I will do nothing as I dont get to do anything. You have that liberty to flee, I do not. Ask others for that answer.

To answer current infected is near impossible.

First known case was Dec 1st/2nd. From that point on, it has been misinformation from China. You would be best not to possess that info regardless as it doesnt aid you.

You are better to learn all you can about things you may require should power, water or heat cease to be provided. In my honest opinion.

-001
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So, reading between the lines here: we’re pretty much fucked.

It was a whimper all along. Not a bang!

epiclol
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Had a feeling as I first started to read this thread.

Come on home Janey, all is forgiven. Come on home GHQ.
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Where is that crazy hermaphrodite? He is missed. He was GLP as much as Trinity, Chip, Jake or Hoo Lee Fuck? He was the leader of the Fandango Rangers!LS-andsoitbegins
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Well just then over N out dimwit, over N out.

We all on here wish you a nice life.
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I haven't been able to follow news lately, due to non-stop work for me for the last few weeks. So, this might be a dumb question and may have already been asked, so sorry in advance...

If you're on the treatment team, could you tell me whether non-pharma treatments are attempted? Like herbs, baking soda, spicy food, elderberries and on and on? You know; hillbilly treatments, old wives tales, new-agey stuff, old remedies, and whatever a total ati-pharma person might try?

If so, does anything seem to help at all?
If not, why not?
 Quoting: FivelCubed


Sorry to bother, but I'm really interested in an answer to this question. If 001 can't answer, can one of you who might have seen 001's answer to a similar question?
 Quoting: FivelCubed


Hi there,

001 shared that they are focused on FDA approved drugs. However it was shared that other teams maybe focused on alternative substances. Teams are assigned specific tasks and then request information from other teams if it assists in their assigned project.

Take care.
 Quoting: SkyTraveler


Thanks, SkyTraveler!
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001...

Thank you for continuing to share.

You’ve been doing your thing for some time and considered an expert.

Have you ever studied a virus like this? What makes it most challenging?

Are you able to see all aspects of the virus? Is there anything spooky? Like it’s moving in ways that are unnatural?

Do you think there is a possibility of some type of artificial intelligence that’s been embedded into this virus?

It feels intelligent. It feels predatory.

Can you share from your scientific perspective but also from your gut? Which I know is probably counterintuitive for you but I feel both matter.
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A and D3 for Viral Infections

To treat acute viral infections in healthy adults, Dr. Brownstein recommends 100,000 IU of vitamin A per day along with 50,000 IU of vitamin D3, both for four days.
Pregnant women should not use doses that high, and people with kidney or liver failure need to work with a holistic doctor before taking vitamin A. The Committee on Infectious Diseases recommends 100,000 IU of vitamin A at the time of measles diagnosis for infants younger than 12 months, and 200,000 IU of vitamin A for older children. If you decide to get the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine for you or your children, he would consider following the vitamin A dosing recommendations; the MMR is a live virus vaccine.

David Brownstein, M.D., is a board-certified family physician and one of the foremost practitioners of holistic medicine. Dr. Brownstein has lectured internationally to physicians and others about his success with nutritional therapies in his practice.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


There are many ways to utilize combinations of vitamins and naturally occurring elements to defeat any virus. Many Natural Allopaths eschew all pharmakeia wizardry and have results exceeding the wildest dreams of the pharma wizards.

Dr. Brownstein is mentioned in this article that examines how Iodine defeats not only influenza but all sorts of diseases such as asthma, tuberculosis, emphysema and more.

Iodine dosages treating influenza and other diseases.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)]

Dr. Sircus has expanded on Dr. Brownstein's work, finding Magnesium chloride and sodium bicarbonate boost the potency of Iodine treatment.

Of course megadose Vitamin C has been documented in thousands of cases to defeat viruses of all types.

The Pharma Wizards will warn against any dose of vitamins or elements exceeding the "RDA" because if everyone knew of the efficacy of Natural Allopathy, the curtain would be pulled aside exposing the wizards as nothing but diminutive vampires.
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I am interested in the use of Nitazoxanide OP.

Any thoughts?
Bing!
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Our drier vents outside, but has a switch to vent inside.

It is obvious venting the virus inside is a problem.
 Quoting: stillhere


Hey just to mention for all to realise in Europe and a LOT of the world, a magority of New Tumble driers are called "condenser" tumble driers, there is not even an option to outside vent, there is no Hose etc. They have a Water container which you empty, the air is sucked in, water condences into the Container and is emptied (full of virus btw)and the air is then vented directly out of the machine via a filter, at the back or front by the door.

Um just in the real world, for a majority of people reading this, I PERSONALLY would never do as the OP described, in regards to the clothes for the very real that his own Data says not to, and you would infect the entire house.

In the real world in Britain for example 60 million people and many many parts of the world, most of Europe with Flats and such like, the Tumble drier is in or right next to the kitchen.

To follow the advice just in regards to this tumble drier thing, would as well as infect you, cost you money for no reason because there would be wasted electricity of even putting the clothes in in the first place, and why bother with the mask and all the other stuff like getting undressed and being Naked in the garden by your front doot as suggested, before entering with just a Face mask and Goggles on (whatever turns you on, might give the neighbours a shock).

In the Real world most houses do no have Porches and an area to do this, there is a Front Door and Back door, 2 doors in and out, unless you set up a tent or something.

In the REAL world it would make all other attempts when out and abaout the time involved and prep before going, coming back etc total worthless, a waste of time and money, and have no protective aspects of infection, probably increase it.

It is like putting a Lightning conductor on a tower and not plugging it into the earth, expecting it not to be struck by lightening, then moaning when the wall explodes where the copper wire ends and the current enters the building.

Just in the REAL world, I live in that is why I would never do it, and I suggest anyone who cares for their family or those they live with do the same, though you have to make your own choices of course.

GodBless.
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Dry it with fire......right in the fire....and have a good mask on.....
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What about this:?

SARS and the new coronavirus target the same cellular lock to infect cells (ACE2)

[link to www.sciencenews.org (secure)]



The author of this VitaminDWiki says:

Chinese Coronaviruses (Wuhan and SARS) attach to cells via ACE2, which is associated with Vitamin D,

It is not clear to me if the association is positive or negative, Will increasing Vitamin D increase or decrease Coronavirus

[link to vitamindwiki.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


The ACE2 has nothing the do with vitamin D the VDR receptor is the Vitamin D receptor. not sure why this person is saying this. It is possible they are saying this because Vit D controls gene expression therefore it would control the expression of ACE2, but Vit D controls the expression of virtually everything so not sure how/why the author thinks this is relevant.

Regardless this has nothing to do with a cytokine storm. if the VDR receptor binds wit vit D it will not release inflammatory cytokines. so the more D the better as it pertains to cytokine storm.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


What about the damage the Wuhan virus is doing to the body and people in China showing now symptoms asymptomatic falling over and dying coz the virus is attacking the heart, brain, oprgans, cns?

What will Vitamin D do for the incubation period?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033



Your body is the most sick BEFORE you show symptoms. Or to say it more accurately you have the highest viral load before you start to show symptoms. If your body has not taken care of the pathogen by other means it will literally try to expel the pathogen from the body. cough, sneeze, runny nose, etc.

If you have enough free D3 in your blood stream many people will never reach the symptomatic stage (or have very mild symptoms) because when the pathogen enters into the body, the D3 will go to your brain, be encoded with instructions, and rush out the the cells to give them the instructions. Keep in mind that once the D is used up it must be replenished that is why i was suggesting a mega dose at first sign of symptoms (50,000 iu). likely your body needs more D3 to finish of the pathogen.

also D3 regulates cardiac function, so theres that too.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

What about this reply here on the thread I started Corona Virus Vitamin D:

Thread: Corona Virus Vitamin D


He says:
"If you think that you're just going to take some Vit D and be ok you are dreaming. It take months to build up your immune system and firstly you have to be mineralised, hydrated and you biome has to be healthy."
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I haven't been able to follow news lately, due to non-stop work for me for the last few weeks. So, this might be a dumb question and may have already been asked, so sorry in advance...

If you're on the treatment team, could you tell me whether non-pharma treatments are attempted? Like herbs, baking soda, spicy food, elderberries and on and on? You know; hillbilly treatments, old wives tales, new-agey stuff, old remedies, and whatever a total ati-pharma person might try?

If so, does anything seem to help at all?
If not, why not?
 Quoting: FivelCubed


Sorry to bother, but I'm really interested in an answer to this question. If 001 can't answer, can one of you who might have seen 001's answer to a similar question?
 Quoting: FivelCubed


Hi there,

001 shared that they are focused on FDA approved drugs. However it was shared that other teams maybe focused on alternative substances. Teams are assigned specific tasks and then request information from other teams if it assists in their assigned project.

Take care.
 Quoting: SkyTraveler


Thanks, SkyTraveler!
 Quoting: FivelCubed


Very welcome! As 001 shared and many others build up your immune system.

And I am partial to sitting in nature as part of my immune building plan. Nature can offer us support in invisible and silent ways.

Try to take time for you. Work can be consuming but don’t let it consume you.

Be well FC.
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here you go...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

here is a snippet from the study

"Deaths during the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic have been linked to both the influenza virus and secondary bacterial lung infections. Case fatality rates and percentage of influenza cases complicated by pneumonia were available from survey data for twelve United States locations in the 1918–1919 pandemic. This study analyzes case fatality rates and cases complicated by pneumonia with respect to estimated summertime and wintertime solar ultraviolet-B (UVB) doses as indicators of population mean vitamin D status. Substantial correlations were found for associations of July UVB dose with case fatality rates (r = −0.72, p = 0.009) and rates of pneumonia as a complication of influenza (r = −0.77, p = 0.005). Similar results were found for wintertime UVB. Vitamin D upregulates production of human cathelicidin, LL-37, which has both antimicrobial and antiendotoxin activities. Vitamin D also reduces the production of proinflammatory cytokines, which could also explain some of the benefit of vitamin D since H1N1 infection gives rise to a cytokine storm. The potential role of vitamin D status in reducing secondary bacterial infections and loss of life in pandemic influence requires further evaluation.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


What about this:?

SARS and the new coronavirus target the same cellular lock to infect cells (ACE2)

[link to www.sciencenews.org (secure)]



The author of this VitaminDWiki says:

Chinese Coronaviruses (Wuhan and SARS) attach to cells via ACE2, which is associated with Vitamin D,

It is not clear to me if the association is positive or negative, Will increasing Vitamin D increase or decrease Coronavirus

[link to vitamindwiki.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


The ACE2 has nothing the do with vitamin D the VDR receptor is the Vitamin D receptor. not sure why this person is saying this. It is possible they are saying this because Vit D controls gene expression therefore it would control the expression of ACE2, but Vit D controls the expression of virtually everything so not sure how/why the author thinks this is relevant.

Regardless this has nothing to do with a cytokine storm. if the VDR receptor binds wit vit D it will not release inflammatory cytokines. so the more D the better as it pertains to cytokine storm.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


What about the damage the Wuhan virus is doing to the body and people in China showing now symptoms asymptomatic falling over and dying coz the virus is attacking the heart, brain, oprgans, cns?

What will Vitamin D do for the incubation period?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


A person has to be able to digest it.

Daily consumption of pastas, rice, starches in general, leads to 'caked' deposits on the walls of intestines. Food can literally flow as a plug through these inner casings and be excreted with incomplete digestion.

Then oral consumption of medicines loses efficacy.

Furthermore, layered deposits, over time, will contain a multiplicity of microorganisms. In addition to distilled sugars, ptomaine and rancid oils.

When the diarrhea hits... you lose whatever you had and all go down together.

Monoculture has lead to so many ruins.

Soy, MSG, fish sauce == Na-salt overload

Thus taxing the vascular system through swelling and water retention. Let alone what happens to ATP exchange with Na imbalance; e.g. with K & Ca.
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A and D3 for Viral Infections

To treat acute viral infections in healthy adults, Dr. Brownstein recommends 100,000 IU of vitamin A per day along with 50,000 IU of vitamin D3, both for four days.
Pregnant women should not use doses that high, and people with kidney or liver failure need to work with a holistic doctor before taking vitamin A. The Committee on Infectious Diseases recommends 100,000 IU of vitamin A at the time of measles diagnosis for infants younger than 12 months, and 200,000 IU of vitamin A for older children. If you decide to get the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine for you or your children, he would consider following the vitamin A dosing recommendations; the MMR is a live virus vaccine.

David Brownstein, M.D., is a board-certified family physician and one of the foremost practitioners of holistic medicine. Dr. Brownstein has lectured internationally to physicians and others about his success with nutritional therapies in his practice.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


There are many ways to utilize combinations of vitamins and naturally occurring elements to defeat any virus. Many Natural Allopaths eschew all pharmakeia wizardry and have results exceeding the wildest dreams of the pharma wizards.

Dr. Brownstein is mentioned in this article that examines how Iodine defeats not only influenza but all sorts of diseases such as asthma, tuberculosis, emphysema and more.

Iodine dosages treating influenza and other diseases.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)]

Dr. Sircus has expanded on Dr. Brownstein's work, finding Magnesium chloride and sodium bicarbonate boost the potency of Iodine treatment.

Of course megadose Vitamin C has been documented in thousands of cases to defeat viruses of all types.

The Pharma Wizards will warn against any dose of vitamins or elements exceeding the "RDA" because if everyone knew of the efficacy of Natural Allopathy, the curtain would be pulled aside exposing the wizards as nothing but diminutive vampires.
 Quoting: Kung Flu Fighter 73196616


Sodium Bicarb boosts the potency of everything, that's why they put it in adult beverages.
Bing!
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I am interested in the use of Nitazoxanide OP.

Any thoughts?
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Last Edited by NeD RyeRsON on 02/08/2020 07:04 PM
Bing!
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Another idea is to put clothes in a black plastic bag and tie it tightly closed with air inside and hanging it on a clothesline in the sun. The temperature inside will get quite hot.

Or place in an oven bag and cook inside your oven or in a solar oven might work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13585916


Black plastic bag, tightly tied, in the trunk of a car in the sun on a hot day?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78440777


That may help in August... in February not so much at least for those of us in the northern hemisphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76258609


As noted: on a hot day!
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The ACE2 has nothing the do with vitamin D the VDR receptor is the Vitamin D receptor. not sure why this person is saying this. It is possible they are saying this because Vit D controls gene expression therefore it would control the expression of ACE2, but Vit D controls the expression of virtually everything so not sure how/why the author thinks this is relevant.

Regardless this has nothing to do with a cytokine storm. if the VDR receptor binds wit vit D it will not release inflammatory cytokines. so the more D the better as it pertains to cytokine storm.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


What about the damage the Wuhan virus is doing to the body and people in China showing now symptoms asymptomatic falling over and dying coz the virus is attacking the heart, brain, oprgans, cns?

What will Vitamin D do for the incubation period?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033



Your body is the most sick BEFORE you show symptoms. Or to say it more accurately you have the highest viral load before you start to show symptoms. If your body has not taken care of the pathogen by other means it will literally try to expel the pathogen from the body. cough, sneeze, runny nose, etc.

If you have enough free D3 in your blood stream many people will never reach the symptomatic stage (or have very mild symptoms) because when the pathogen enters into the body, the D3 will go to your brain, be encoded with instructions, and rush out the the cells to give them the instructions. Keep in mind that once the D is used up it must be replenished that is why i was suggesting a mega dose at first sign of symptoms (50,000 iu). likely your body needs more D3 to finish of the pathogen.

also D3 regulates cardiac function, so theres that too.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

What about this reply here on the thread I started Corona Virus Vitamin D:

Thread: Corona Virus Vitamin D


He says:
"If you think that you're just going to take some Vit D and be ok you are dreaming. It take months to build up your immune system and firstly you have to be mineralised, hydrated and you biome has to be healthy."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033



His statement is half true. It does indeed take months to build up sufficient 25-OHD levels in your body. 25OHD is a prehormone created by the liver and indicates the constant level of Free D3 in your blood. If you just took on large dose of D3 it would not significantly increase your 25OHD you would simply pee most of it out. however for a short period of time it is in your bloodstream and available for your body to use. If you have sufficient 25 OHD levels you dont need to mega dose because your body already has all of the free D3 it needs. However most people have very low 25OHD levels, Hence the mega dose i suggested. the mega dose creates a sufficient D3 level for your body to use for a short period of time. He is also correct in that this isnt the only thing that one needs to do to protect themselves. but it is the best thing you can do to prevent a cytokine storm, which is the initial point i made.
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Another idea is to put clothes in a black plastic bag and tie it tightly closed with air inside and hanging it on a clothesline in the sun. The temperature inside will get quite hot.

Or place in an oven bag and cook inside your oven or in a solar oven might work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13585916


Black plastic bag, tightly tied, in the trunk of a car in the sun on a hot day?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78440777


That may help in August... in February not so much at least for those of us in the northern hemisphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76258609


As noted: on a hot day!
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But wouldn't disinfectant spray work?
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Is 007 still posting here?
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New Posts from the morning through tonight.

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Do not fly unless they allow you onboard in a full tyvek, respirator at p3 levels, goggles and gloves. Cruise ships, planes, taxis, airports and any public transport are going to be major vectors and already are.

Misdiagnosis is happening at this very moment due to the fact that medical staff is slammed by the monster they know, Influenza. Coronavirus is secondary in thoughts at this time.

I will not speculate on deaths. This virus attacks lower respiratory tract, digestive tract will suffer some, possibly diarrhea and cramping, shortness of breath. Fever will spike once symptoms start.

First Chinese case was area of Dec 1st/2nd. When did it come to US? Within December I believe personally. The first cases were only called "viral pneumonia" and infact, 80% of deaths from this virus in China are being attributed to "viral pneumonia".

There is a reason that on Jan 1st the Wuhan CCP party mandated mandatory disinfection of Huanan Wetmarket requiring full closure for the day.

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Do not fly unless they allow you onboard in a full tyvek, respirator at p3 levels, goggles and gloves. Cruise ships, planes, taxis, airports and any public transport are going to be major vectors and already are.

Misdiagnosis is happening at this very moment due to the fact that medical staff is slammed by the monster they know, Influenza. Coronavirus is secondary in thoughts at this time.

I will not speculate on deaths. This virus attacks lower respiratory tract, digestive tract will suffer some, possibly diarrhea and cramping, shortness of breath. Fever will spike once symptoms start.

First Chinese case was area of Dec 1st/2nd. When did it come to US? Within December I believe personally. The first cases were only called "viral pneumonia" and infact, 80% of deaths from this virus in China are being attributed to "viral pneumonia".

There is a reason that on Jan 1st the Wuhan CCP party mandated mandatory disinfection of Huanan Wetmarket requiring full closure for the day.

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As I said on the main thread.

DO NOT TOUCH FACE, average person does so thousands of times a day.

Within 8ft of infected/suspected, n100/half mask respirator at p3 levels, no lower. Goggles/Shield

Outside 8ft, n95 is sufficient and I recommend vacating area immediately.

Always sanitize, everytime you remember.

Do not share dishes, cutlery, cups, anything
Purchase single use everything regarding food and drink.

If someone in your household is infected. Put a mask on them, not you. N95 minimum, n100 suggested, p3 respirator best.

Do not fly, cruise, bus, cab or any mass transit unless you are protected.

Heat kills all things, before entry to your house, do not near anyone, remove clothing except your mask and goggles. Gloves go with clothing into a bag, into your drier at highest heat level. Sanitize anything you touched up to this point including yourself.

Smoking is dangerous, as you will be pressed to remove mask, gloves etc, touch your face, other surfaves you may have not decontaminated etc. Along with obvious health reasons too.

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I cannot specify many details regarding chloroquine, but it is of interest.

We have seen results involving chloroquine but nothing of major stature at this time. It was based on post entry of virus.

We are not looking at pre entry yet, it is next.

We are basing our work off infected, hence looking for treatment. So all sims/tests/data will be reflected in a post-entry form. I believe all labs are following this directive as, but I do not know for certain.

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The point of what? I am missing what you are referencing.

I cannot be fully honest, I do not have that liberty and anyone involved in situations like this is bound the same.

Someone who claims to be fully honest and reveal all, is either a fraud or willing to sacrifice their lives for what may not be the end of all.

I am sorry
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I know, it is a steep suggestion, these items.

But it is what is required for safety.

Soon "living" this way, will not be an option, it will be what is being told is mandatory I fear.

-001

Things are not what they seem.

As I said, it is not data, it is a warning.

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I cannot say where I am from, I can only apologize if my english is not of quality. It was not one of my first choices but it is the standard here in US.


We do not have vetted data on possible fatality rate. But let me say, even if it is only 10%, that will quickly become 50% if hospitals are overwhelmed due to fear and swarms of infected.

This is why the administration is keeping the shert over it, per se. This allows vital resources to be used for criticals, versus mass panic, resulting in our doctors refusing to work.

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We are not testing non-fda approved treatments at this time as they do not have enough data available. We are looking for a stable treatment with minimal documented side effects after continual dosages/adminstration, to person/persons receiving.

So we need hard data that has been verified.
There is other labs under this directive, I am sure, as there is others testing unapproved techniques as well. What they are testing, I cannot say.

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Ah. I have no knowledge of how MSM is instructed during these things, so I cannot comment with true knowledge.

I would say they are most likely going to continue this exact path of slowly divulging facts, in order to keep things rolling and calm.

If total panic and chaos begins, the administrations hand will be forced.

As once COOP/COG plans are enacted, the wheels are halted. Economic destruction and the government is demonized for good.

Continuing this path, in my opinion, is the best chance for people in my situation to perform the work needed to prevent it from becoming a COOP/COG scenario.

Government needs the little man, more than we in conspiracy theories like to admit. The man in a suit will not do the work of the laborer, or run a hydro dam, or nuclear reactor. Let alone have the knowledge.

They will buy time until there is 0 time left to buy. Until something is found.

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It does not clarify much, it is about the same length as this post here, but it is clear they are scared/coerced/infected.

It is not possible to see what is true in China any longer I fear.

If the military is in control as everyone says, their goals are not economic in nature.

Unike a political party.

As you would assume.

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This is not me if you are asking for answers.

I will not say my race, nationality, schooling or location of schooling.

Stop requesting please, it is selfish as it is a big risk for me.

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As I said. Bugging out is not my forte, I have not thought of it or even prepared. Infact, my fridge and pantry is empty at this time.

Will you be one requiring ecmo (as i have been corrected), or other machines due to your symptoms? You wont find that in your kit.

Bugging out would be ok if you knew of somewhere, where no one else will come for up to 45 days, and that you have been healthy for 45 days, starting from today.

This is based on 1 day to 6 week incubation evident by available non chinese infection datasheets.

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I told you. Refer to cdc briefing with sec azar, it affirms much of what I said previous to the airing of this briefing.

Regardless, I did not ask anyone to believe me or verify my info. I stated I was providing clarity tk remove useless theories that are simply NOT possible.

I did not say I have all the answers, or will I ever. No man does and let no man tell you so.

And yes, requesting me to divulge indentifying information after signing 3 seperates ndas to be involved, is quite selfish.

You fear the virus, I get to have fear of what happens to me and possibly my loved ones, during all of this while "betraying" government ndas.

Explain "selfish" to me again please

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Half mask is for non infected. I did not say wear half mask on infected.

Reread please.

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Like SARS, ncov is vulnerable to heat. But also like sars. It may not be enough to slow it.

And as stated, a virus in lab behaves one way, the same virus real world, does not behave the same and mutation can either work for us or against us.

We have a conference in 39 minutes regarding misinformation and hygiene practices in real world situations.

I will be back later to speak more as I have been relieved of work for today, due to fatigue.

-001

In easy terms.

Ground glass opacity is direct damage to alveoli in lungs.

Small sacs responsible for harvesting oxygen into your blood.

Is a simple way of explaining.
Typically results in permanent scarring afterwards as well.

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Sorry Lars, I was busy.

As I stated, the CDC is part of the government, who at this timeis merely performing damage control and attempting to buy time for advances to be made with this virus.

They are neither lying nor telling the full picture.

I cannot put you at ease because your feeling is 80-90% true. Willful ignorance being the incorrect 10%, but technically by rights, the risk is currently low.

The virus is a big risk, but currently, we are able to place criticals in care and treat mild cases.

They are not lying by saying this to be frank, they are just misleading.


And to truly confirm tests is a multi stage process, not a single test confirmation, I would assume "pending" means awaiting secondary or third stage verification.

They must be positive on confirmations at this time as quarantining is by all rights, imprisonment.

Unless new directives are issued, this is illegal without proper reasoning at this moment.

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A new drier currently is capable of reaching temps above 170f.

Please do not provide incorrect info my friend.

Everything else is correct, except the fact driers vent to the outside, not inside if installed correctly. If I am not mistaken that is? I am not certified in any hvac or anything related.


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I will be back in a while. I am not going anywhere and I will be available until I am no longer capable to do so for any reason.

Clearly there is an interested group willing to learn, and I will provide what I can as that was my sole purpose of opening up here.

Thank you
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Sorry you disagree.

As I stated, I do not possess all answers, no man does and let no man say he does.


I also asked all of you not to base your actions of simply what I say, infact, I said form you own opinion on ALL available info, not only mine. I am not THE shepherd, or THE expert. I am merely attempting to aid as many as possible.

If you feel you are more knowledgable in a situation, speak up, otherwise please be quiet as condescending material does literally nothing.

The drier is the route I will be taking via sealed bags. What you do is up to you, I have no other easily accesible route to achieve temperatures of 170F. If you do, good on you.

I would recommend you pray to your "God", he may provide you with answers no one has.

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I am in America right now. I use a VPN.

To answer that, I will do nothing as I dont get to do anything. You have that liberty to flee, I do not. Ask others for that answer.

To answer current infected is near impossible.

First known case was Dec 1st/2nd. From that point on, it has been misinformation from China. You would be best not to possess that info regardless as it doesnt aid you.

You are better to learn all you can about things you may require should power, water or heat cease to be provided. In my honest opinion.

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Your concerns dont match with the gravity of the situation.

You think being naked in public is going to be of worry? You will possibly bear witness to the darkest acts of man possible. Yet you are concerned about your electrical bill and the neighbors opinion of you being naked.

Good luck, perhaps your "God" will intervene in your case as you clearly are not grasping the situation unfolding in the real world.

Please dont bless me, as I have seen what "God" is capable of, this is why he only exists in the developed countries.

Where I come from, "God", is not a resort.

I will be your friend when the Lord doesnt answer you in the coming weeks, maybe not now.

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There is a few speculative reasons why no children have had issues so far, we are investigating possibilities as to why, and if they can utilized in cases of patients that are older. I cannot go into further detail regarding this. There is reasoning for that, is all I can say.

We have no restrictions on treatments being examined except that they must be fda approved as well as be easily produced without China which is difficult. We have even been looking at non-viral treatments for example. Experimental treatments too, albeit, I would hope a successful treatment not be of an experimental origin.

I solely do not possess answers for all questions regarding this, if I did, we would not be here having this discussion.

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Mr dull socks


You are correct in saying you are most infected before showing symptoms and following symptoms are simply your immune system responding.

In data I have seen, this is not reflective of all cases, this is what ncov seems best at to be honest.

Causing a very very large immuno-response. Cytokine storm as many here will have seen. I believe fevers may be aiding this issue as well as it is known that fevers aid your immune response.

It seems that the virus is doing its best to cause your immune system to over-react while at the same time, destroying it.

It is a complex and dynamic situation that we are simply trying to get ahead of as containment is just not a very efficient option.

"Containment" can be done, but it will cost far more lives, money and long term damage then the current route as in my opinion, only mass quarantine is the way to contain, which will turn "camps" into a human petri dish.

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You are correct in saying you are most infected before showing symptoms and following symptoms are simply your immune system responding.

In data I have seen, this is not reflective of all cases, this is what ncov seems best at to be honest.

Causing a very very large immuno-response. Cytokine storm as many here will have seen. I believe fevers may be aiding this issue as well as it is known that fevers aid your immune response.

It seems that the virus is doing its best to cause your immune system to over-react while at the same time, destroying it.

It is a complex and dynamic situation that we are simply trying to get ahead of as containment is just not a very efficient option.

"Containment" can be done, but it will cost far more lives, money and long term damage then the current route as in my opinion, only mass quarantine is the way to contain, which will turn "camps" into a human petri dish.

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"It seems that the virus is doing its best to cause your immune system to over-react while at the same time, destroying it."


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You are correct in saying you are most infected before showing symptoms and following symptoms are simply your immune system responding.

In data I have seen, this is not reflective of all cases, this is what ncov seems best at to be honest.

Causing a very very large immuno-response. Cytokine storm as many here will have seen. I believe fevers may be aiding this issue as well as it is known that fevers aid your immune response.

It seems that the virus is doing its best to cause your immune system to over-react while at the same time, destroying it.

It is a complex and dynamic situation that we are simply trying to get ahead of as containment is just not a very efficient option.

"Containment" can be done, but it will cost far more lives, money and long term damage then the current route as in my opinion, only mass quarantine is the way to contain, which will turn "camps" into a human petri dish.

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this is likely true which is why i feel that D3 is so important. if there is sufficient D3 available the subsequent cytokine storm could be prevented due the modulation of the cytokine release. more here...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

I picked up on the "cytokine storm" portion of your post and know that D3 can help. It likely wont help in other ways but i very well could help for the cytokine storm

hope this helps

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You are correct in saying you are most infected before showing symptoms and following symptoms are simply your immune system responding.

In data I have seen, this is not reflective of all cases, this is what ncov seems best at to be honest.

Causing a very very large immuno-response. Cytokine storm as many here will have seen. I believe fevers may be aiding this issue as well as it is known that fevers aid your immune response.

It seems that the virus is doing its best to cause your immune system to over-react while at the same time, destroying it.

It is a complex and dynamic situation that we are simply trying to get ahead of as containment is just not a very efficient option.

"Containment" can be done, but it will cost far more lives, money and long term damage then the current route as in my opinion, only mass quarantine is the way to contain, which will turn "camps" into a human petri dish.

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-001: What is the best way to calm the cytokine storm if a person is to contract this nCov? I've read here on GLP that a combo of 3 OTC meds can help the storm, I believe it was antihistamine like Benadryl or related, taken together with OTC Zantac and OTC Prilosec would take care of 3 components of immune response to foreign invader that the lymphocytes are trying to react to. Whats your take on this?

Also, would it be advised once you have a fever to need to also take ibuprofen and acetaminophen?

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