Epidemiologist Behind highly cited model admits he was wrong and drastically revises model | |
wisconsin
User ID: 78259322 United States 03/26/2020 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... I SAVED this article because you know SOON IT WILL BE SCRUBBED!!! ... . ... all the fear and panic this idiot caused!!! ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MORAN Quoting: sunwatcher he DIDNT "revised" his model, just said that NOW that "measures" finally TOOK place, in UK, deaths will fall behind 20k - his previous numbers were if NO ONE measure was done [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)] despite the "model" IS flawed, thread argument is full BS UNPIN THIS SHIT SCAM so REALLY RELEVANT threads can be pinned Here are two lines from the article (my bolding): "Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve. However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday. Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000."" I would say that a drop from 500,000 dead i UK alone to 20,000 is QUITE A FUCKING CHANGE. |
Lily o' the Valley
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Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em. But we were right, Big Daddy....that's why YOU'RE the BIG DADDY...and I'm the REBEL! |
wisconsin
User ID: 78259322 United States 03/26/2020 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em. . ... me too ... they are really sick puppies aren't they ... . ... paid by soros? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78315263 Belgium 03/26/2020 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock? Quoting: Big Daddy D [link to www.dailywire.com (secure)] So tell me, why are hospitals in France, UK, Italy, Spain flooded with sick people? It is not that much about how many people will die. It is about how many people die when the health system collapses (so no more beds or respirators) as in that case, people die because the equipment to pull them through is not available. So, yes, the number of infections might have been overestimated, the number of people requiring medical care might have been underestimated. But in the end: it does not matter if it was overestimated as when the amount of people requiring medical care exceeds the available medical care, you keep having an exponential curve (as those people do NOT end up in quarantaine in that case, and keep infecting other people at a fast rate as they are more contagious than people without any symptoms (coughing for example) |
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User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em. . ... me too ... they are really sick puppies aren't they ... . ... paid by soros? ... . This entire site has been overrun by them for WEEKS and a LOT OF MONEY went into pushing this SCAM. |
Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me repeat this for you SLOW children: Here are two lines from the article (my bolding): "Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve. However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday. Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000."" I would say that a drop from 500,000 dead i UK alone to 20,000 is QUITE A FUCKING CHANGE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77403814 Turkey 03/26/2020 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock? Quoting: Big Daddy D [link to www.dailywire.com (secure)] Daily Wire, huh? Well, here's the thing. Don't you think that there is tremendous pressure to make Covid a non-issue since it is crippling the world in the range of trillions of dollars in trade? It's a mis-info piece. The guy is not wrong. The death tolls are going exponential now and the numbers prove it. You've been mis-info-ed and fell for it. So maybe you can crawl under a rock. I know people with this and it is no flu and it is not something that is going to just disappear. So deal with it. People like you are the reason why it spreads. Don't be a fool. Or if you are a fool, then please by all mean catch it and let it take its toll on you. Hopefully you will not post nonsense like this in the future from a lesson learned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76793731 Austria 03/26/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19. Does that mean the weird flu a lot of people got Dec-Jan time frame was COVID-19? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689221 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock? Quoting: Big Daddy D [link to www.dailywire.com (secure)] Seems trump knows this that why he pushing after the peak to get people back to work.... |
Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion Scroll down a bit... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] That's why there should be a rule that karma should be signed. No hit and runs. |
Too Dark Park™ Two
User ID: 74046144 United States 03/26/2020 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion Scroll down a bit... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] What the fuck??? Bless my fuck "It’s in my interest, in ours perhaps, or maybe the interests of the greater good, for me to smoke a joint, and calm down.” — Hunter S. Thompson "I've got the spirit, but lose the feeling!" :rockon: |
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Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock? Quoting: Big Daddy D [link to www.dailywire.com (secure)] Seems trump knows this that why he pushing after the peak to get people back to work.... He actually KNEW this from the start - not this specific study, but his own common sense, of which he has plenty, told him that this thing was no worse or different than the flu....WHICH IS TRUE...and that it would be over soon. BUT....he cowed to pressure from the rest of the System that wanted to create this panic for this own purposes. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT. I can understand it....but it was the wrong thing to do. |
Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion Scroll down a bit... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] What the fuck??? That must have been an epic St. Patrick's Day! |
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Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76793731 Does that mean the weird flu a lot of people got Dec-Jan time frame was COVID-19? That's what I personally believe. I've been saying on here repeatedly that CV showed up in China, end of Oct/beginning of November. We did not have a travel ban until Feb 1. Even after that Chinese could get here from Europe, Canada or Mexico. Which means that the VIRUS HAS BEEN HERE FOR NEARLY 5 MONTHS OR SO. Certainly way before any travel bans or other precautions or lockdowns put in place. That is the reason QUARANTINES DON'T WORK. Because by the time you institute them, the disease is already THERE. Viruses travel with the speed of humans. The VIRUS HAS BEEN HERE FOR MONTHS and many people with bad colds or flus during the winter HAD Corona Virus. That is why so many people will test positive for it....with no symptoms. |
Big Daddy D
(OP) Chaotic Constitutionalist User ID: 48865774 United States 03/26/2020 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1????? Quoting: Blue State Rebel I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em. But we were right, Big Daddy....that's why YOU'RE the BIG DADDY...and I'm the REBEL! Rock on! HWR The US is a One Party State controlled by a small cadre of Financiers Big Daddy D |
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Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you.... Did you read his revision? He's revising them down BECAUSE the social distancing is working. He's not telling everyone to get back to work tomorow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77740839 That is not fucking true. HE MADE A FUCKING MISTAKE. You people cannot win this by truth, logic or any other means. YOU'RE JUST WRONG. Again....from the article: "However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. " |
Big Daddy D
(OP) Chaotic Constitutionalist User ID: 48865774 United States 03/26/2020 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock? Quoting: Big Daddy D [link to www.dailywire.com (secure)] Daily Wire, huh? Well, here's the thing. Don't you think that there is tremendous pressure to make Covid a non-issue since it is crippling the world in the range of trillions of dollars in trade? It's a mis-info piece. The guy is not wrong. The death tolls are going exponential now and the numbers prove it. You've been mis-info-ed and fell for it. So maybe you can crawl under a rock. I know people with this and it is no flu and it is not something that is going to just disappear. So deal with it. People like you are the reason why it spreads. Don't be a fool. Or if you are a fool, then please by all mean catch it and let it take its toll on you. Hopefully you will not post nonsense like this in the future from a lesson learned. It is a very minor issue that we completely overreacted to. No where have we ever done this for the flu and the flu is more virulent than COVID. HWR The US is a One Party State controlled by a small cadre of Financiers Big Daddy D |
Blue State Rebel
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Big Daddy D
(OP) Chaotic Constitutionalist User ID: 48865774 United States 03/26/2020 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you.... Did you read his revision? He's revising them down BECAUSE the social distancing is working. He's not telling everyone to get back to work tomorow. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77740839 That is not fucking true. HE MADE A FUCKING MISTAKE. You people cannot win this by truth, logic or any other means. YOU'RE JUST WRONG. Again....from the article: "However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. " Bingo. HWR The US is a One Party State controlled by a small cadre of Financiers Big Daddy D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73086834 United States 03/26/2020 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock? Quoting: Big Daddy D [link to www.dailywire.com (secure)] After 3 months less than a 1000 people have died It does seem like we might be being played for suckers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76798092 United States 03/26/2020 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me repeat this for you SLOW children: Quoting: Blue State Rebel Here are two lines from the article (my bolding): "Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve. However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday. Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000."" I would say that a drop from 500,000 dead i UK alone to 20,000 is QUITE A FUCKING CHANGE. Shit son, that's less then the flu |
Blue State Rebel
User ID: 73724632 United States 03/26/2020 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They should take this guy and skin him Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78688052 alive, and all the global warmers with him, and televise it globally. MAYBE then we could (temporarily anyway) put a stake through the heart of the NEW WORLD ORDER. I am of the same sympathies but being of a gentler nature, would just line them up and shoot them. After a trial, of course, we wouldn't want to be "vigilantes". |