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Epidemiologist Behind highly cited model admits he was wrong and drastically revises model

 
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he DIDNT "revised" his model, just said that NOW that "measures" finally TOOK place, in UK, deaths will fall behind 20k - his previous numbers were if NO ONE measure was done

[link to www.newscientist.com (secure)]

despite the "model" IS flawed, thread argument is full BS

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Here are two lines from the article (my bolding):

"Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve.

However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday.

Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000.""


I would say that a drop from 500,000 dead i UK alone to 20,000 is QUITE A FUCKING CHANGE.
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion
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These are figures for the UK only, he doesnt speak for other places in the world
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em.
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em.
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When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

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So tell me, why are hospitals in France, UK, Italy, Spain flooded with sick people?
It is not that much about how many people will die. It is about how many people die when the health system collapses (so no more beds or respirators) as in that case, people die because the equipment to pull them through is not available. So, yes, the number of infections might have been overestimated, the number of people requiring medical care might have been underestimated. But in the end: it does not matter if it was overestimated as when the amount of people requiring medical care exceeds the available medical care, you keep having an exponential curve (as those people do NOT end up in quarantaine in that case, and keep infecting other people at a fast rate as they are more contagious than people without any symptoms (coughing for example)
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Can someone with the screenshot post the article? Or can someone tell us what to do with it (don't get cute)?
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em.
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This entire site has been overrun by them for WEEKS and a LOT OF MONEY went into pushing this SCAM.
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Let me repeat this for you SLOW children:

Here are two lines from the article (my bolding):

"Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve.

However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday.

Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000.""


I would say that a drop from 500,000 dead i UK alone to 20,000 is QUITE A FUCKING CHANGE.
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
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Daily Wire, huh?

Well, here's the thing. Don't you think that there is tremendous pressure to make Covid a non-issue since it is crippling the world in the range of trillions of dollars in trade?

It's a mis-info piece. The guy is not wrong. The death tolls are going exponential now and the numbers prove it.

You've been mis-info-ed and fell for it. So maybe you can crawl under a rock.

I know people with this and it is no flu and it is not something that is going to just disappear. So deal with it.

People like you are the reason why it spreads. Don't be a fool. Or if you are a fool, then please by all mean catch it and let it take its toll on you. Hopefully you will not post nonsense like this in the future from a lesson learned.
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Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19.

Does that mean the weird flu a lot of people got Dec-Jan time frame was COVID-19?

 
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
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Seems trump knows this that why he pushing after the peak to get people back to work....
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion
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That's why there should be a rule that karma should be signed. No hit and runs.
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion
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Scroll down a bit...

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What the fuck??? Wtf damned
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
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Seems trump knows this that why he pushing after the peak to get people back to work....
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He actually KNEW this from the start - not this specific study, but his own common sense, of which he has plenty, told him that this thing was no worse or different than the flu....WHICH IS TRUE...and that it would be over soon. BUT....he cowed to pressure from the rest of the System that wanted to create this panic for this own purposes. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT. I can understand it....but it was the wrong thing to do.
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion
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Scroll down a bit...

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What the fuck??? Wtf damned
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That must have been an epic St. Patrick's Day!
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Did you.... Did you read his revision? He's revising them down BECAUSE the social distancing is working. He's not telling everyone to get back to work tomorow.
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Yes, some areas will be much more affected than others.
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Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19.

Does that mean the weird flu a lot of people got Dec-Jan time frame was COVID-19?

 
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That's what I personally believe. I've been saying on here repeatedly that CV showed up in China, end of Oct/beginning of November. We did not have a travel ban until Feb 1. Even after that Chinese could get here from Europe, Canada or Mexico. Which means that the VIRUS HAS BEEN HERE FOR NEARLY 5 MONTHS OR SO. Certainly way before any travel bans or other precautions or lockdowns put in place.

That is the reason QUARANTINES DON'T WORK. Because by the time you institute them, the disease is already THERE. Viruses travel with the speed of humans. The VIRUS HAS BEEN HERE FOR MONTHS and many people with bad colds or flus during the winter HAD Corona Virus. That is why so many people will test positive for it....with no symptoms.
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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I got a bunch on one of my earlier threads as well. F'em.
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But we were right, Big Daddy....that's why YOU'RE the BIG DADDY...and I'm the REBEL!
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Rock on!rockon
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Did you.... Did you read his revision? He's revising them down BECAUSE the social distancing is working. He's not telling everyone to get back to work tomorow.
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No, they don't read past the sensationalist headlines, just like the liberals they hate.
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Did you.... Did you read his revision? He's revising them down BECAUSE the social distancing is working. He's not telling everyone to get back to work tomorow.
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That is not fucking true. HE MADE A FUCKING MISTAKE. You people cannot win this by truth, logic or any other means. YOU'RE JUST WRONG.

Again....from the article:

"However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. "
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

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Daily Wire, huh?

Well, here's the thing. Don't you think that there is tremendous pressure to make Covid a non-issue since it is crippling the world in the range of trillions of dollars in trade?

It's a mis-info piece. The guy is not wrong. The death tolls are going exponential now and the numbers prove it.

You've been mis-info-ed and fell for it. So maybe you can crawl under a rock.

I know people with this and it is no flu and it is not something that is going to just disappear. So deal with it.

People like you are the reason why it spreads. Don't be a fool. Or if you are a fool, then please by all mean catch it and let it take its toll on you. Hopefully you will not post nonsense like this in the future from a lesson learned.
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It is a very minor issue that we completely overreacted to. No where have we ever done this for the flu and the flu is more virulent than COVID.
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I would ask anyone who has this article or screen shots to send/tweet it out to any media figures you can. Most of them are LAME of course, but there might be a few who heed it.
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Did you.... Did you read his revision? He's revising them down BECAUSE the social distancing is working. He's not telling everyone to get back to work tomorow.
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That is not fucking true. HE MADE A FUCKING MISTAKE. You people cannot win this by truth, logic or any other means. YOU'RE JUST WRONG.

Again....from the article:

"However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. "
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Bingo.
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

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After 3 months less than a 1000 people have died


It does seem like we might be being played for suckers
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Let me repeat this for you SLOW children:

Here are two lines from the article (my bolding):

"Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve.

However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments, as reported by New Scientist Wednesday.

Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000.""


I would say that a drop from 500,000 dead i UK alone to 20,000 is QUITE A FUCKING CHANGE.
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Shit son, that's less then the flu
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They should take this guy and skin him
alive, and all the global warmers with him,
and televise it globally.

MAYBE then we could (temporarily anyway)
put a stake through the heart of the
NEW WORLD ORDER.

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I am of the same sympathies but being of a gentler nature, would just line them up and shoot them. After a trial, of course, we wouldn't want to be "vigilantes".





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