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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78702761 United States 03/29/2020 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: eatinmraw 41033436 I've ask this in other posts and there's never anyone with an answer. If they don't know that's okay...but in all of the seemingly extensive research they could have found some kind of answers for this. If there's not some kind of number proof for it like all the other stats that are quoted...then I start to believe more and more that it's turning into one of the biggest money grabs ever. And of course...who's doin the most grabbin? We don't have any disaster relief fund for this in the UK (as far as I know) I haven't heard of a relief fund in the States, is there one in place? The two trillion relief "package" just signed. Oh, you call that a relief fund, we call it a bailout over here. My wife asked me why the UK government were being so 'good' with their offers of help to all the laid off workers, self employed etc, I told her they had no choice. She looked at me strange. The only part of the bailout you're going to get is the SHAFT, mark my words |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While we're talking weirdness in stats and figures, over here in UK our recovery rate has been static at 135 for the past 7 days. While our confirmed cases are going up as anticipated, as are the reported deaths. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 We don't have any disaster relief fund for this in the UK (as far as I know) I haven't heard of a relief fund in the States, is there one in place? The two trillion relief "package" just signed. Oh, you call that a relief fund, we call it a bailout over here. My wife asked me why the UK government were being so 'good' with their offers of help to all the laid off workers, self employed etc, I told her they had no choice. She looked at me strange. The only part of the bailout you're going to get is the SHAFT, mark my words I'm not naive, the future looks bleak. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13127179 United States 03/29/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127179 Here's the problem. Even if the death count actually reaches 32,000 then it would STILL only be half of the flu deaths during the 2017 flu season. I don't remember the country being shut down for that. dude, are you high? even if it reaches? the count today is already 33,892 only a few hours after i posted. in 5 to 6 days it will be 64,000 you don't understand, and it seems you can't even read. lol you're the one who's high. The death count in the us is not "33,892". As of right now the death count for the United States is approx 2500. Again, as I have already stated, if the COVID death count reaches 30K, it would still only be half of the deaths from the flu season in the US in 2017. So what part of this is confusing to you? where in my op, or anywhere on this thread have i said in the US? you're making dumb ass assumptions. fuck off I am using the data from the US to prove a point in terms of the death count. If you don't wish to use strictly US data, we can do that as well. So, if the death count worldwide (since that's what you're wanting to discuss) reaches 300K, that alone is still half of the number of people who approx die of the flu in any given year. HALF. And countries were not on lock down then. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78685588 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | India is proper locked down. They wont let it spread. Police are out with batons to keep the streets clear. Charity and religious organisations are helping to provide food to those who couldn't stock up. Lol india will never get hit hard, coronavirus is just a strain of the flu and its +30 all the time in india, it does not survive that weather, the only cases they have are probably from recent travelers Lol, the virus doesn't survive warm weather. Australia got the virus in their summer and Asutralia ia a very hot country, Iran has the virus, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78098821 United States 03/29/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Tard! "confirmed"? Too few test kits = many people who have it, not counted. This may be as high as 80% of the sick, not going to the hospital and not getting tested. That mean the true more accurate mortality rate is 1/5 the current stat. 1.74 X (0.2) = 0.035...or about the same mortality rate for a typical flu season. In the 2017-2018 USA flu season, there was 79,000 deaths. You can bet your ass that Covid 19 flu has been here stateside since at least November. Someone already posted to this effect with sound evidence. There were over 170,000 people who flew into the USA from Wuhan, China on 02/01/20 alone. One day! Get your head out of your dumbass and start thinking critically. Was this Covid 19 under a different name? With 1300 dead in less than two months with a mortality rate of 5.6% (23,000/1300) why wasn't there a fucking lock down back in mid December? If this wasn't Covid 19, why are we lockdown and under oppression now, while they destroy our economy over a dishonest, extremely biased (on the extreme high side) 1.74% U.S. Covid 19 mortality rate? Things than make you go hmmmmmm..... Article is from Dec. 13th, 2019 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] |
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User ID: 71008581 United States 03/29/2020 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fake figures Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701802 Covid scam Extremely (intentionally) flawed testing/data. The following is from a medical forum. The writer, who is a widely respected professional scientist in the US, prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days. *** I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments. This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues. The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues. The New Coronavirus Outbreak, COVID-19, Sounds Menacing and Is The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense. And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load. If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you. If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis. And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen. Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus. They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common. There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time. All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease. Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die. You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on. Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist. Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically. Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic. But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways. 1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead. 2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers. 3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience. 4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen. Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks. They can not “confirm” something for which there is no accurate test. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come quickly Lord Jesus. Maranatha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: JJ Johns dude, are you high? even if it reaches? the count today is already 33,892 only a few hours after i posted. in 5 to 6 days it will be 64,000 you don't understand, and it seems you can't even read. lol you're the one who's high. The death count in the us is not "33,892". As of right now the death count for the United States is approx 2500. Again, as I have already stated, if the COVID death count reaches 30K, it would still only be half of the deaths from the flu season in the US in 2017. So what part of this is confusing to you? where in my op, or anywhere on this thread have i said in the US? you're making dumb ass assumptions. fuck off I am using the data from the US to prove a point in terms of the death count. If you don't wish to use strictly US data, we can do that as well. So, if the death count worldwide (since that's what you're wanting to discuss) reaches 300K, that alone is still half of the number of people who approx die of the flu in any given year. HALF. And countries were not on lock down then. Before you come back and say it's just an article, It makes sense. "That said, scientists have studied seasonal flu for decades. So, despite the danger of it, we know a lot about flu viruses and what to expect each season. In contrast, very little is known about the new coronavirus and the disease it causes, dubbed COVID-19, because it's so new. This means COVID-19 is something of a wild card in terms of how far it will spread and how many deaths it will cause." -50% [link to www.livescience.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78479174 United States 03/29/2020 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now in NYC 2% of those who have contracted the virus have died.....almost precisely Quoting: I don't like how THIS loo 78702761 678 deaths /33768 infections = 2.007% Meanwhile , in Israel 15 people out of 4000 have died, 25 minutes ago: [link to www.haaretz.com (secure)] 15deaths/4234 total infected= 0.375 death rate% 10 of these were extremely aged individuals and their testing positive likley only means they were vaccinated. SO why is the death rate in new york 8 times what it is in Israel? Why is the death rate 100 times higher in Iran, and 42 times higher in italy?? What are you talking about?! NEw York State has 60k cases and 970 deaths. = 1.6% death rate. A NOTHING BURGER. [link to corona.help (secure)] The WHOLE STATE !! That’s 20 million population!! NYC has 8.5m population!!! NYC is the epicenter with a whopping 0.7% of the entire NYC population! (That’s EVERY SINGLE STATE “diagnosis” placed in NYC ) Lololololol DEATH RATE? Like 0.004%! LoL Death rate |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: JJ Johns dude, are you high? even if it reaches? the count today is already 33,892 only a few hours after i posted. in 5 to 6 days it will be 64,000 you don't understand, and it seems you can't even read. lol you're the one who's high. The death count in the us is not "33,892". As of right now the death count for the United States is approx 2500. Again, as I have already stated, if the COVID death count reaches 30K, it would still only be half of the deaths from the flu season in the US in 2017. So what part of this is confusing to you? where in my op, or anywhere on this thread have i said in the US? you're making dumb ass assumptions. fuck off I am using the data from the US to prove a point in terms of the death count. If you don't wish to use strictly US data, we can do that as well. So, if the death count worldwide (since that's what you're wanting to discuss) reaches 300K, that alone is still half of the number of people who approx die of the flu in any given year. HALF. And countries were not on lock down then. yes, this op is based on global stats. and, not only is your reading comprehension obviously poor, you don't understand exponential growth either. from these numbers, we can continue like this: however, taking the numbers from now 32,000 today 64,000 6 days 128,000 12 days 256,000 18 days 512,000 24 days 1 mill 30 days 2 mill 36 days 4 mill 42 days 8 mill 48 days 16 mill 54 days 32 million in 60 days let's meet here in a week or two and see how those numbers look in comparison. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78395327 United States 03/29/2020 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i've been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues. today we hit 32,000 deaths, and it's 6 days after 16,000 deaths were reached on 23. march, and that's was 6 days after we hit ~8,000 on 17 march. Quoting: JJ Johns Date / Total Dead 09. March 4,025 17. March 7,979 23. March 16,513 29. March 32,145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] ADD: to those of you that don't get this. you're missing this, i think: here in europe, we are ahead of you by a week to 10 days. the hospitals in northern italy and spain are completely over run. they don't have enough supplies. the drs. are working overtime. some are getting sick too. when the hospitals get overrun like they have been, even more people die--people that may have otherwise survived. and, if you need emergency care, maybe for a car accident, a heart attack, a stroke, guess what--they don't have any bed for you, and you may die too. NOTICE: if you're just posting attacks without any argument, sources, or logic, your post will be deleted. enough bullshit from shills. i don't give a shit if you don't like it. make your own thread then. Stop basing growth on stats. The stats are incorrect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i've been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues. today we hit 32,000 deaths, and it's 6 days after 16,000 deaths were reached on 23. march, and that's was 6 days after we hit ~8,000 on 17 march. Quoting: JJ Johns Date / Total Dead 09. March 4,025 17. March 7,979 23. March 16,513 29. March 32,145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] ADD: to those of you that don't get this. you're missing this, i think: here in europe, we are ahead of you by a week to 10 days. the hospitals in northern italy and spain are completely over run. they don't have enough supplies. the drs. are working overtime. some are getting sick too. when the hospitals get overrun like they have been, even more people die--people that may have otherwise survived. and, if you need emergency care, maybe for a car accident, a heart attack, a stroke, guess what--they don't have any bed for you, and you may die too. NOTICE: if you're just posting attacks without any argument, sources, or logic, your post will be deleted. enough bullshit from shills. i don't give a shit if you don't like it. make your own thread then. Stop basing growth on stats. The stats are incorrect. That's just your opinion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Tard! "confirmed"? Too few test kits = many people who have it, not counted. This may be as high as 80% of the sick, not going to the hospital and not getting tested. That mean the true more accurate mortality rate is 1/5 the current stat. 1.74 X (0.2) = 0.035...or about the same mortality rate for a typical flu season. In the 2017-2018 USA flu season, there was 79,000 deaths. You can bet your ass that Covid 19 flu has been here stateside since at least November. Someone already posted to this effect with sound evidence. There were over 170,000 people who flew into the USA from Wuhan, China on 02/01/20 alone. One day! Get your head out of your dumbass and start thinking critically. Was this Covid 19 under a different name? With 1300 dead in less than two months with a mortality rate of 5.6% (23,000/1300) why wasn't there a fucking lock down back in mid December? If this wasn't Covid 19, why are we lockdown and under oppression now, while they destroy our economy over a dishonest, extremely biased (on the extreme high side) 1.74% U.S. Covid 19 mortality rate? Things than make you go hmmmmmm..... Article is from Dec. 13th, 2019 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i've been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues. today we hit 32,000 deaths, and it's 6 days after 16,000 deaths were reached on 23. march, and that's was 6 days after we hit ~8,000 on 17 march. Quoting: JJ Johns Date / Total Dead 09. March 4,025 17. March 7,979 23. March 16,513 29. March 32,145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] ADD: to those of you that don't get this. you're missing this, i think: here in europe, we are ahead of you by a week to 10 days. the hospitals in northern italy and spain are completely over run. they don't have enough supplies. the drs. are working overtime. some are getting sick too. when the hospitals get overrun like they have been, even more people die--people that may have otherwise survived. and, if you need emergency care, maybe for a car accident, a heart attack, a stroke, guess what--they don't have any bed for you, and you may die too. NOTICE: if you're just posting attacks without any argument, sources, or logic, your post will be deleted. enough bullshit from shills. i don't give a shit if you don't like it. make your own thread then. Stop basing growth on stats. The stats are incorrect. says an AC moran. prove it? you can't, so fuck off. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78098821 United States 03/29/2020 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The mortality rate is getting smaller and will be under 1% in the US when more tests are completed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78173446 With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Tard! "confirmed"? Too few test kits = many people who have it, not counted. This may be as high as 80% of the sick, not going to the hospital and not getting tested. That mean the true more accurate mortality rate is 1/5 the current stat. 1.74 X (0.2) = 0.035...or about the same mortality rate for a typical flu season. In the 2017-2018 USA flu season, there was 79,000 deaths. You can bet your ass that Covid 19 flu has been here stateside since at least November. Someone already posted to this effect with sound evidence. There were over 170,000 people who flew into the USA from Wuhan, China on 02/01/20 alone. One day! Get your head out of your dumbass and start thinking critically. ok, ow tell me how that changes anything in my original post. the rate of deaths are still doubling every 6 days. you're missing the point You're missing the fucking point. Who gives a shit if deaths double every six days. The actual mortality rate is no different than the average seasonal flu, which is a fraction of those who fall ill (just .035%). Even if 120 million people get sick (very unlikely), two thirds of the population won't (240 million people). So your chance of dying from this is one tenth of one percent (0.001). Do you realize how many Americans die in automobile accidents annually? Do you? The chance of an American dying in a wreck is 1:114. Terrible odds right? Yet, people go outside and drive, EVERYDAY. Well, the chance of you dying from this disease in any given year is just 1:1000 NOT EVERYONE WILL FALL ILL. Got it? Let's get back to work and school. Let this thing run it's course. Wash your hands. Get some rest. Eat health, and for God's sakes get out in the sun for some natural vitamin D. What the fuck is wrong with people's critical thinking skills today? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78685588 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Idiot. A mortality rate doesn't double every 6 days. Quoting: Jon Titor ™ The mortality rate for Covid-19 in the US is less than 1%. A yuge amount of those infected never get tested or go to a hospital. Ir's not less than 1%. It is currently at 1.7%. Last Thursday it was 1.4%. So in 3 days, the mortality rate has gone from 1.4% to 1.7%. Of course, the mortality rate is going to get higher. USA Number of infected = 140,990 Number of deaths = 2,457 2,457 ÷ 140,990 x 100% = a death rate of 1.74% The flu has a death rate of 0.1% Wake up hoax tards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are a lot of people on this forum who over the next few weeks, will be wishing for mass death just so they can come back here and say I told you so. Well that and they think the more death, the more Trump will look bad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major Doom With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Tard! "confirmed"? Too few test kits = many people who have it, not counted. This may be as high as 80% of the sick, not going to the hospital and not getting tested. That mean the true more accurate mortality rate is 1/5 the current stat. 1.74 X (0.2) = 0.035...or about the same mortality rate for a typical flu season. In the 2017-2018 USA flu season, there was 79,000 deaths. You can bet your ass that Covid 19 flu has been here stateside since at least November. Someone already posted to this effect with sound evidence. There were over 170,000 people who flew into the USA from Wuhan, China on 02/01/20 alone. One day! Get your head out of your dumbass and start thinking critically. Was this Covid 19 under a different name? With 1300 dead in less than two months with a mortality rate of 5.6% (23,000/1300) why wasn't there a fucking lock down back in mid December? If this wasn't Covid 19, why are we lockdown and under oppression now, while they destroy our economy over a dishonest, extremely biased (on the extreme high side) 1.74% U.S. Covid 19 mortality rate? Things than make you go hmmmmmm..... Article is from Dec. 13th, 2019 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78479174 United States 03/29/2020 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Idiot. A mortality rate doesn't double every 6 days. Quoting: Jon Titor ™ The mortality rate for Covid-19 in the US is less than 1%. A yuge amount of those infected never get tested or go to a hospital. Ir's not less than 1%. It is currently at 1.7%. Last Thursday it was 1.4%. So in 3 days, the mortality rate has gone from 1.4% to 1.7%. Of course, the mortality rate is going to get higher. USA Number of infected = 140,990 Number of deaths = 2,457 2,457 ÷ 140,990 x 100% = a death rate of 1.74% The flu has a death rate of 0.1% Wake up hoax tards. WHO CARES. 330,000,000 people in America with MAJOR CITIES LIKE NYC clocking less than 0.004% death rate Good lord you need to learn stats |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Major Doom With 139,601 confirmed and 2430 deaths, the mortality rate is not under 1% and is not getting lower. rate = deaths / confirmed x 100 Currently, it is 1.74% Tard! "confirmed"? Too few test kits = many people who have it, not counted. This may be as high as 80% of the sick, not going to the hospital and not getting tested. That mean the true more accurate mortality rate is 1/5 the current stat. 1.74 X (0.2) = 0.035...or about the same mortality rate for a typical flu season. In the 2017-2018 USA flu season, there was 79,000 deaths. You can bet your ass that Covid 19 flu has been here stateside since at least November. Someone already posted to this effect with sound evidence. There were over 170,000 people who flew into the USA from Wuhan, China on 02/01/20 alone. One day! Get your head out of your dumbass and start thinking critically. ok, ow tell me how that changes anything in my original post. the rate of deaths are still doubling every 6 days. you're missing the point You're missing the fucking point. Who gives a shit if deaths double every six days. The actual mortality rate is no different than the average seasonal flu, which is a fraction of those who fall ill (just .035%). Even if 120 million people get sick (very unlikely), two thirds of the population won't (240 million people). So your chance of dying from this is one tenth of one percent (0.001). Do you realize how many Americans die in automobile accidents annually? Do you? The chance of an American dying in a wreck is 1:114. Terrible odds right? Yet, people go outside and drive, EVERYDAY. Well, the chance of you dying from this disease in any given year is just 1:1000 NOT EVERYONE WILL FALL ILL. Got it? Let's get back to work and school. Let this thing run it's course. Wash your hands. Get some rest. Eat health, and for God's sakes get out in the sun for some natural vitamin D. What the fuck is wrong with people's critical thinking skills today? you obviously don't have any and cannot grasp exponential growth. ignorance is bliss. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78098821 Tard! "confirmed"? Too few test kits = many people who have it, not counted. This may be as high as 80% of the sick, not going to the hospital and not getting tested. That mean the true more accurate mortality rate is 1/5 the current stat. 1.74 X (0.2) = 0.035...or about the same mortality rate for a typical flu season. In the 2017-2018 USA flu season, there was 79,000 deaths. You can bet your ass that Covid 19 flu has been here stateside since at least November. Someone already posted to this effect with sound evidence. There were over 170,000 people who flew into the USA from Wuhan, China on 02/01/20 alone. One day! Get your head out of your dumbass and start thinking critically. Was this Covid 19 under a different name? With 1300 dead in less than two months with a mortality rate of 5.6% (23,000/1300) why wasn't there a fucking lock down back in mid December? If this wasn't Covid 19, why are we lockdown and under oppression now, while they destroy our economy over a dishonest, extremely biased (on the extreme high side) 1.74% U.S. Covid 19 mortality rate? Things than make you go hmmmmmm..... Article is from Dec. 13th, 2019 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are a lot of people on this forum who over the next few weeks, will be wishing for mass death just so they can come back here and say I told you so. Well that and they think the more death, the more Trump will look bad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689036 hey tard, look at the trump 2020 in my signature. i voted for him last time around and i will again this year. yes, i'm an american, despite my flag. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78685588 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 11bpatriot It's not speculation, certainly not unfounded, and the half million will be along soon. We have 6000 friends and neither we NOR EVEN ONE OF THOSE 6000 peeps knows of EVEN ONE person who is stricken with this "virus" These people live all over the northeast us and South and Mid Atlantic. So WHAT ARE THE ODDS ?!???!!!? Exactly. We have relatives in three Puerto Rican cities and non of them have any corona goin on. In fact...non of them even know anyone with the corona. We have relatives throughout the central and southern part of Illinois of which many are stupid/silly hypochondriacs and non of them in those areas has the corona AND YES...they also don't know of anyone with it either. A retired cousin and her husband are in an Arizona retirement community on a golf course and she is A BUSYBODY always all up in everyone's business and they know of nobody there with the corona. Their clubhouse is closed but many are still out playin golf...drinkin and havin a good time. We are south of Seattle about 20 miles and us three don't have it as well as the many relatives we have up in Seattle as well as north of it along with east of it right in the area of the Life Care Center in Kirkland. We mostly shop at a small Safeway here and know two of the checkers there that we ask any time we've been there and every time it's the same...they still don't know of anyone. My son lives farther south of us in Puyallup as well as his ex wife in Bonney Lake and they and the kids have no corona and neither do any of his ex's relatives. Two of her brothers are on the Seattle police force and neither one has meant or knows the supposed cases within the force. It has been said that the Police force is lying about cases BUT it's not really known which way they may be lying. I'm not sayin this is a nothingburger but the buns still seem to be lacking much meat at this time. I mean hey it's Seattle...aren't we the epicenter of the whole US? Where's the beef? Can anyone on here confirm rampant cases within their rank of family and friends or even their neighborhoods? My sister’s best friend age 21 lives in Bozeman and has it. Recently came back from a hiking trip in Northern Cali, she had diarrhea, fatigue, and chest pressure. Woke up next morning fever 103, persistent dry cough, and shortness of breath/pressure/pain. 4 days in still feels bad but slightly better. 60+ year old lady in my hometown has had it for over a week, feels terrible, similar symptoms, still at home no complications. Slept next to her husband for week most likely contagious and he never got it/or hasn’t yet. My cousins friend in Virginia, age 29 has it, very badly, hospitalized on ventilator. He has “auto immune” disorder? And is an extreme heavy drinker. Don’t know his update. I woke up today tired, headache, some gas/stomach pains... no diarrhea, no fever, no cough... paranoid that I may be getting it.... I’ve been pretty isolated and live in Northern Idaho. 27/m... The Trump cult will say you are lying. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are a lot of people on this forum who over the next few weeks, will be wishing for mass death just so they can come back here and say I told you so. Well that and they think the more death, the more Trump will look bad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689036 hey tard, look at the trump 2020 in my signature. i voted for him last time around and i will again this year. yes, i'm an american, despite my flag. I didn't mention any names. You know as well as I know this is the case. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78098821 Was this Covid 19 under a different name? With 1300 dead in less than two months with a mortality rate of 5.6% (23,000/1300) why wasn't there a fucking lock down back in mid December? If this wasn't Covid 19, why are we lockdown and under oppression now, while they destroy our economy over a dishonest, extremely biased (on the extreme high side) 1.74% U.S. Covid 19 mortality rate? Things than make you go hmmmmmm..... Article is from Dec. 13th, 2019 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78685588 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i've been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues. today we hit 32,000 deaths, and it's 6 days after 16,000 deaths were reached on 23. march, and that's was 6 days after we hit ~8,000 on 17 march. Quoting: JJ Johns Date / Total Dead 09. March 4,025 17. March 7,979 23. March 16,513 29. March 32,145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] ADD: to those of you that don't get this. you're missing this, i think: here in europe, we are ahead of you by a week to 10 days. the hospitals in northern italy and spain are completely over run. they don't have enough supplies. the drs. are working overtime. some are getting sick too. when the hospitals get overrun like they have been, even more people die--people that may have otherwise survived. and, if you need emergency care, maybe for a car accident, a heart attack, a stroke, guess what--they don't have any bed for you, and you may die too. NOTICE: if you're just posting attacks without any argument, sources, or logic, your post will be deleted. enough bullshit from shills. i don't give a shit if you don't like it. make your own thread then. Here's the problem. Even if the death count actually reaches 32,000 then it would STILL only be half of the flu deaths during the 2017 flu season. I don't remember the country being shut down for that. Come back in 6 months and tell us how many have died retard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78098821 United States 03/29/2020 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78098821 Was this Covid 19 under a different name? With 1300 dead in less than two months with a mortality rate of 5.6% (23,000/1300) why wasn't there a fucking lock down back in mid December? If this wasn't Covid 19, why are we lockdown and under oppression now, while they destroy our economy over a dishonest, extremely biased (on the extreme high side) 1.74% U.S. Covid 19 mortality rate? Things than make you go hmmmmmm..... Article is from Dec. 13th, 2019 [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? Bravo! Someone is waking up and is starting to see the forest for the trees. Too many Americans are dumbed down and conditioned to never question authority. Fuck! We are so fucked! |
eatinmraw User ID: 41033436 United States 03/29/2020 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It will burn out around 200,000-400,000 deaths if trends remain the same, but that doesn't mean it wont come back. This is a real nasty creation, people playing with things they dont comprehend might have ended the human species. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78702761 Anthony Fauci as well as Neil Ferguson of the UK have already stated this past week that their original numbers were way off and that this will become nothing more than a severe flu type of season. There new numbers are closer to 20,000 and they even said maybe less. No they didn't. They've been all over pointing out that the claims that they revised their numbers down is absurd. What they were saying is, if measures are taken to combat the virus, deaths will be lower, not that they were wrong and that it won't be as deadly as they thought. So then measures here in the US have been pretty extreme to keep numbers down. At 60 yrs old there has never been anything like the lock downs they're doin to us now in my lifetime. I'll state right now that numbers in the US will be nowhere near 2-400,000 deaths. I'll bookmark this post AND will comeback with same name and number to apologize if it does. The thing is with all the sky is fallin posters with astronomical death counts in the US because of this virus will disappear and/or quiet down so as not to have fingers pointed at them for fearmongering. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689036 United States 03/29/2020 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689036 I think this evidence alone completely destroys any type of modeling that's been used over the last month. When you factor in the extended time the virus has been here, it's actually less virulent than normal flu. When you consider the almost complete lack of flu cases reported this year by the CDC, you start to see the bigger picture. Covid19 is in FACT this year's flu bug. So you can't have a NOVEL virus appear at same time/before/after traditional flu? You know what NOVEL means? Get off man! Where are the normal flu cases then? CDC is reporting practically none. We should have 20 million cases this year. Where they at? I'm getting fed up saying this, it's all about overwhelming the hospitals/care system. Forget traditional flu Covid-19 if either of those things lead to the possible deadly pneumonia complications the ICU/ventilators etc simply aren't available. They are attempting to manage this outbreak and godhelp us if they cant because a lot of folk will die a horrible death. And I'd argue that the LACK of "traditional" flu cases (Per the CDC's website) means that there are no more hospitalized sicknesses this year than any other year and quite possibly fewer. The lack of ventilators is a fabrication! Do you understand that? Boots on the ground reporting have shown NO rush on the hospitals. The MSM is blowing this completely out of proportion to scare you. Apparently it's working! |