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SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19

 
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The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC.

Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges.

U.S. Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000
MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000
DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children)

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]


Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000
DEATHS: 3,424

[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]


World Health Organization mid-line estimate for Influenza during 2019-2020 Flu Season:

GLOBAL DEATHS: 470,000

TOTAL GLOBAL COVID-19 DEATHS AS OF 3/31/20: 37,272

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Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19
The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC.

Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges.

Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000
MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000
DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children)

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]


Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000
DEATHS: 3,424

[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
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That death number is fucking huge

something tells me that the CDC lied about H1N1

Its still here, still spreading and highly active and extremely lethal

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There you go again bringing reality into the media/democrat/rino panic frenzy. You’re gonna mess up a perfectly good economic collapse.
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How can this be? We have shut the country down because 3500 people have died here?
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I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths.

Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet).

If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths..

Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. 

Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats.

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Is there a way to just the see the numbers for a specific city that is hard hit by both, over a specific time frame?

I'm on the fence with this but these stats don't strike me as terribly useful atm because the flu obviously had a huge head start and is already spread globally and Covid is still spreading.

It's basically like comparing covid now to Covid in December. Obviously Covid now is worse.

Flu being a worse overall disease atm is true numbers wise but misleading, it assumes both diseases have peaked and run their course.
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Some more perspective -- the EU which has similar metrics, population, GDP, land erc, has 430k cases and an average death rate 16x higher than the US.

We're doing well.
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with only 19 deaths in India, 23 deaths in Mexico and 3500 deaths in America


clearly this is the biggest hoax ever
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Also, with the whole world practicing social distancing I'm curious how flu numbers in the past two months this year compare to last year. They should be much lower, yes?
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Thanks! More perspective is always a good thing. One would think that our media would be doing the same thing, unless of course....they have an agenda?

I truly suspect that this issue of shutdown is related to something bigger than the virus, because these people must know that they’re toast otherwise if/when we get to the other side of this.
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Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19
The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC.

Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges.

Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000
MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000
DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children)

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]


Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000
DEATHS: 3,424

[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
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I understand where you’re coming from but have a look - it’s just a matter of time.
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Outstanding post. 5 stars for truth over mass hysteria.
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I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths.

Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet).

If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths..

Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. 

Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats.
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Yeah, but imagine if they used the known cure, like they are in some hospitals very successfully: malaria drug plus zinc.

Hoax over
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How can this be? We have shut the country down because 3500 people have died here?
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7700 people in the US die each DAY. Everyone head for the hills cause 3500 in a month in a half of the sniffles!

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with only 19 deaths in India, 23 deaths in Mexico and 3500 deaths in America


clearly this is the biggest hoax ever
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Bet they use a lot of malaria drugs there...the known cure being stalled so we can have forced vaccinations and loss of freedoms
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I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths.

Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet).

If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths..

Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. 

Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats.
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while you're extrapolating.....compare the "oldest population in the world", combined with the poor air quality, smokers and the culture of dudes kissing each other on the cheek.....now compare that to the USA!
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Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19
The current flu season is now winding down. These are the Preliminary Burden Estimates for the 2019-2020 Flu Season from the CDC.

Note that the figures for these four categories are only mid-line compared to the CDC estimate ranges.

Influenza-Related from October 1, 2019 to March 14, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 46,000,000
MEDICAL VISITS: 22,000,000
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000
DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children)

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]


Here are the U.S. COVID-19 stats as of March 31, 2020:

TOTAL ILLNESSES: 175,669
HOSPITALIZATIONS: 22,000
DEATHS: 3,424

[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
 Quoting: Doc Savage


The difference between covid and the flu is the rate of infection is much greater, you can be a carrier and not know it (therefore the total illnesses # is way off), and all of this happens in a much shorter time period than the flu which can overwhelm the hospital.
I think the greatest threat from this is the asymptomatic carriers. With the flu, most people know they have it, feel like shit, and stay home and they are only contagious when they show symptoms. This simply isn't the case with Covid.
Thus it has the potential to infect everyone and the number of deaths can be much greater than the seasonal flu because of this.
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The main difference is 80% of the people that get Covid 19 think it is a mild cold and so they drink some OJ and go on with their life. They never get tested.

Tens of millions have dealt with it and never got tested. The death rate is tiny. It is fatal to people elderly and they are finding that it is really bad for people with high blood pressure and people on statins.
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Again, comparing 6 months of flu to 1 month of Corona starting and spreading in the USA. Give it a month and then recompare. Also.. did you forget you’re comparing a virus (the flu) with no social distancing and shut downs vs a new virus with social distancing and shut downs. Think about it.
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Dumb masses are blind sheeple. This fake virus will create many panic sex babies. As dumb as their parents.
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The World Health Organization estimates that at least 470,000 worldwide will die from the flu during the 2019-2020 flu season.

Compare to current worldwide deaths from COVID-19: 37,272.
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I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths.

Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet).

If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths..

Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. 

Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats.
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Ok, I'll bite on. Strawman arguments piss me off.

Italy calculates their flu deaths different than the majority of the world. That's why statistically they say they lose about 300 people a year from the flu. How does that make any sense when comparing populations and flu deaths to any other Western country.

What a coincidence that a country that calculates the flu death different than the rest of the world to show very few flu deaths is facing the worst of the "pandemic" right at the time when people are comparing the numbers to the flu.

Currently the entire Western world is calculating COVID deaths strangely. Flu deaths are being wrapped up into it because COVID is quite similar to it. That's why it's called a strain of the coronavirus aka common cold/flu strains. The tests are coming back false-positive very frequently and complications of it are very similar to complications of the flu. Even then the numbers are still ridiculously low compared to the flu.

Could it be that this is a new strain of the flu which can cause a pneumonia-like complication... much like the flu?

Oh no, that's impossible because the TV tells me it's going to get really bad really soon even though the death numbers aren't there. I'll just cross reference how Italy records stats to the way the U.S. does and pretend they're the same to try to prove my point...

Next let's compare the way China records stats. Hey look, the pandemic is over!
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Again, comparing 6 months of flu to 1 month of Corona starting and spreading in the USA. Give it a month and then recompare. Also.. did you forget you’re comparing a virus (the flu) with no social distancing and shut downs vs a new virus with social distancing and shut downs. Think about it.
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It amazes me when I see posts from such ignorant fucktards.

Look at the information. The COV 19 stats go back to the beginning.
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when you think about it, how scammed we are, we basically have pandemics every year, as you stated in your opening post, with the influenza, flu infections, but nothing is done in the magnitude it's been done now, social distancing what, factories, societies being shut down wut?
just proves the fact it's a hoax for their agenda, change of the system, way of human life
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Re: SOME PERSPECTIVE: CDC Statistical Estimates for the 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season Compared With COVID-19
I'll use statistics from Italy and extrapolate to the USAs population and compare them to OPs flu related deaths.

Currently Italy has a population of 60 million. They have lost just under 12,500 lives so far, with deaths not in decline (has not peaked yet).

If we extrapolate the death rate to the USAs current population, 327 million, just over 68,000 would have died so far... Italy's covid19 deaths have occurred in just ONE month, so lets times the USAs deaths, 68k, by 12.. around 820,000 deaths compared to the estimated 43k flu related deaths..

Imagine if Italy had not shut down, had not taken any precautions.. 

Covid19 smashes the flu, if you use Italy's stats.
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while you're extrapolating.....compare the "oldest population in the world", combined with the poor air quality, smokers and the culture of dudes kissing each other on the cheek.....now compare that to the USA!
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Shall we also compare taly's health care system with the United States?
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According to your Stats:

Flu hospitalizations 1.2% all infected
CV: 12.5% all infected

Flu deaths: 0.01% all infected
CV deaths: 1.9% all infected
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Go get stats on the first year of the flu and compare it to the first year of covid19.
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How can this be? We have shut the country down because 3500 people have died here?
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Now you really know this about something else.
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This part is extremely relevant -

"HOSPITALIZATIONS: 565,000
DEATHS: 43,000 (including 100 children)"

Given the current state of hype relating to covid-19





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