WHY Are ALL the BIGGEST Observatories SHUT DOWN?

I don’t care about that. You know, once “scientists” believed the whole Universe for revolving around the Earth. They also believed the Earth was flat.

That’s my take on “science”. It’s just a way to explain an unknown variable based on the current “knowledge”. Once the knowledge has evolved, the explanation might not be viable anymore.

So, I like to keep an open mind and consider any explanation that I feel is “true”, even though the current knowledge makes it look hilarious.

Fuck your feelings. Your feelings are irrelevant. You are following someone who is misleading you with false claims. This is his longest running main claim. My calculations are verifiable and true, and correctly predict the orientation of the moon. Explain that.

Catfish certainly can't explain it...

This thread was cool when we were trying to figure out why the observatories are closed.

I have to agree with Astromutt. Catfish can't explain things and has been saying for years that the sky is falling. The whole cup, ball.... None of the things he's said would happen have occurred. Research more before you follow along with him.

It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Then why did you suddenly derailed the thread by coming to the defense of Eric Briggs?

LOL what are you talking about?!


Last Edited by Astromut on 04/18/2020 05:44 PM

Speaking of observatories that will be open tonight, if I see your derailing, trolling horseshit on my live stream or my thread, there will be consequences.

LOL what are you talking about?! This thread is literally flooded with your ego. You’re mixing up threads, better get some sleep :)

I started commenting on page 10 of this thread, in reply to the comment with videos showing what appear to be two suns in the sky. I wrote that I saw what seemed to be two suns in the sky on several occasions, with my naked eye. So it is absolutely impossible that what I saw was a lens or filter flare.

That’s when you started picking on me and started calling me names.

Anyhow, let’s “rerail” the thread here. I am convinced that there are many closed observatories because there is something out there that is easily detectable this time of the year because of the position of the Earth in relation to our Sun. Wouldn’t bet on it, but I think this something is only visible during springtime and it’s more and more visible every year.

I don’t know what it is and I don’t care, What I do care about though is the fact that you and some others aggresively attack and try to “debunk” anything that even remotely hints to something like this. That makes me REALLY suspicious, because I like to think for myself instead of being instructed what to think.

Knock it off. You don't think for yourself, you swallow whatever horseshit conspiracy theorists on YouTube like Catfish want to spew out. You're a typical pathetic nibirutard. If you had thought through your own conspiracy for 2 seconds you'd have realized that shutting down the most powerful telescopes in the world would not be sensible if Nibiru is already easily detected and getting easier to detect. The people running said observatories would already know about it. It also doesn't explain why remotely operated and automated observatories like Pan-STARRS, ATLAS, and others are all still running. You can rent time on an iTelescope right now from one of multiple observatory locations all over the world. And my own scope will be operating tonight. If there's something so easily detectable that is getting easier to detect in the spring, why would the "grand conspiracy" be to give me more time at home which makes it more likely I'll have time to use my telescope and observe the skies? Really dumb strategy if that's the goal. You haven't thought your own claim out, you don't think, you just swallow horseshit.

so you’re trying to say that your home telescope is just as powerful as the ones in the observatories that are closed?

Besides, theoretically speaking, 4-5 observatories detecting something unexpected would be more manageable than 50 observatories detecting the same thing, don’t you think?

"there is something out there that is easily detectable this time of the year"
Easily detectable. Your words. And again, I'm not the only one with a telescope. Making it easier for independent amateurs using very powerful equipment to stay home and use that equipment is probably not a good strategy if there's something out there they don't want us knowing about that is "easily detectable." My alma mater shut down their observatory too as a result of the pandemic. Their telescope is n't any different from high-end amateur hardware, it is not even close to one of the most powerful telescopes in the world. So if the shutdown is because of some conspiracy to silence professional observatories and keep them from detecting something, then it must be detectable to high end amateur hardware because that's basically all they're using.

Last Edited by Astromut on 04/18/2020 06:16 PM

The objects are predominately visible in the day. Don’t astronomers generally do their thing at night? There’s a relevant factor. For the amateur It’s actually far easier to see said objects by eye than to use a telescope-I’ve tried it!


..and yes the observatories are very likely closed to prevent access to the incoming system!

If it was only visible during the day then why the fuck would they shut down observatories that only operate at night. You people really don't think. Amateur astronomers do solar astronomy all the time and they've never seen a second sun next to the actual sun.

Visited there last fall. Asked the lady in the gift shop if she could talk about it. She said that they weren't supposed to say much, but that an employee working there (One of the scientists, I think) started to threaten other employees. Someone called the administrators over the facility and complained. Next thing they all know, the men in black are landing & driving up, everyone is made to leave, and when they are allowed back (a LONG TIME later, if I remember correctly), the person being threatening is no longer employed.

I smiled and thanked her for the explanation. And said I was just glad they were open for business again. I wouldn't have put a wooden nickel bet on that being a true story, but the lady was pleasant and trying to be convincing. Prior to that visit, you could drive to a couple of the telescope buildings. Now, you have to walk or request a staff person drive you on a golf cart. No private vehicles allowed into the interior of the facility.

You can stand on the edge of the grounds and look out over the White Sands Missile Range and whatever the private space launch area is. They are a long way away, but with good binocs, you can see a lot. I think there was something going on down there that they didn't want ANYONE to see, including the staff of the observatory.

Easily detectable by the telescopes of the biggest observatories, which we are talking about in this thread.

“More than 100 of Earth's largest telescopes are now closed, and astronomers are worried about the pandemic’s long-term impacts on their field.”

“ Observatory directors say they could be offline for three to six months — or longer.”

[link to astronomy.com (secure)]

Please tell us, Mr. Astro, if something is exactly behind our sun, as seen from the Earth during its perihelion, for about how many months could that be observed with some of the world’s largest telescopes, before it would be obscured by the sun again?

.... it would show up in Stereo A COR1/COR2/HI1 images.

But for what do you need the big observatories?

You saw it by your own eyes; right now every RubeTube idiot with a potato-cam can film it next to the sun - so tell us, for what do you need the big observatories?



I'm glad to see you're not letting your education get in the way of your ignorance.

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Not what you started off saying and as I also mentioned, even my own alma mater shut down its observatory. Their telescope is smaller than some of the amateur telescopes in my state. so you're wrong, it's not just the largest telescopes in the world that are shut down. If they're being shut down as part of some conspiracy to hide nibiru, then it must be detectable even to high-end amateur hardware since that hardware is more powerful than my own University's telescope.

HI astro
can you see, detect a 1000 m object by chance?

Oops, I forgot that you're the EU version of Mr. Astro LOL

So, it would show up on the images of one spacecraft controlled by Nasa, instead of the images of almost 100 terrestrial telescopes controlled by various organizations? In that case, all is good... :)

Anyway, it's interesting that you brought up Stereo A, as this actually raises even more questions:
- since Stereo A is ahead of Earth in its orbit around the Sun, Nasa would know in advance if something unexpected could be seen by terrestrial telescopes, right? BTW, how many days/weeks ahead of Earth is Stereo Ahead in its orbit around the sun?
- are you saying that COR1/2 instruments would capture anything that's not visible from the Earth? Don't think so: [link to secchi.nrl.navy.mil (secure)]

(HI is irrelevant to my question, as it monitors the space between Earth and Sun: [link to www.stereo.rl.ac.uk]

BTW, COR1 and COR2 monitor the corona of the Sun. Interesting that Stereo was manufactured by Johns Hopkins APL. Now, where did I hear about the Johns Hopkins University lately? Oh, right, they provide that scary map which shows the coronavirus cases... [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]

Pardon me if I engage in "conspiracy theories" on a forum which is just about that (or at least, used to be...)



How about because a big observatory would make a way more credible source than me or any "RubeTube idiot with a potato-cam"?



Actually, I'm glad that I don't let preconceived ideas based on current knowledge get in the way of my thinking :)

Here's my take on "science"

17 Science “Facts” That Are Actually Not True
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25 Popular Science Myths Debunked
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Since the whole thread is about why the biggest observatories are closed, it should be logical that it's what I meant.

And LOL, I never stated that just the largest telescopes in the world are shut down :)... obviously, small telescopes are not the main subject of this thread

You don't get to pick and choose which observatory closures you want to pay attention to. That's called cherry picking. The fact is that it's NOT just the largest ones that are shut down. So are smaller ones, even much smaller ones that are even smaller than some amateur telescopes. If that's being done as part of a conspiracy then amateurs should be able to see it too. Especially since the claim is that it can be seen even in daytime. You don't get to troll by ignoring the facts you don't like.

Yes.

thank you, hats down :D

Oops, And I forgot that you're the EU version of Claudia Albers. LOL



And your point is?
Everybody can tune in to the frequency of ST-A, download the RAW image data and process it himself.



And again: Your point is?
I say it once again for the slow ones: Everybody can tune in to the frequency of ST-A, download the RAW image data and process it himself.



- are you saying that your link shows the actual position of ST-A?
Oops: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov (secure)]



It's not really irrelevant. Since your friends with the potato-cams insist that the second sun (or whatever it is) is next to the sun, it easily could show up in HI1 images.



I see: The big observatories, owned by NASA, ESA, ..., are shut down to hide something behind the sun, but when they would be in operation, then they would publish their findings about something behind the sun.
Sounds legit.
Btw.: How would the big observatories detect something that is behind the sun? Can you enlighten me there, please?



Your take on "science" is interesting.
None of the points in the first article is a fact, even though the headline says so, that are all myths.
And every halfway educated person in Germany knows that these myths are not true.
That you bring up these Myths suggests the assumption that you yourself believed in these - what you name - "facts".

I have to revise my above statement, I should have written: Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you are abusing this privilege.

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yeah, and we know Nasa is always providing us with genuine and accurate data :)



Huh? I am saying that my link shows the range for COR2, which is pretty narrow, seeing that it's designed to observe the Sun's corona



You do realize that "next to the sun" could also be a space opposite of Earth's position, right? Also, you do realize that space exists not only between the Earth and the Sun, right?



Errm... correct me if I'm wrong, but the Earth revolves around the Sun, doesn't it? So if at perihelion something is behind the sun (as seen from the Earth), than the Earth will be between the Sun and this thing at aphelion.

Do you want me to draw that down for you?