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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Scientists believe that the latest global surges are resultants of the triple mutation variant... [link to thelogicalindian.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


To summarize: "We don't know or have any real evidence but looking at case data and the few sequenced samples we have, these mutations might be a problem."

More then a year in and we are still constantly playing catch-up in regards to science and Russian Roulette in regards to air travel.
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Scientists believe that the latest global surges are resultants of the triple mutation variant... [link to thelogicalindian.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


To summarize: "We don't know or have any real evidence but looking at case data and the few sequenced samples we have, these mutations might be a problem."

More then a year in and we are still constantly playing catch-up in regards to science and Russian Roulette in regards to air travel.
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And in the mean time I am going to have to find you the case studies.... the odds are unfortunately too damn high for the upcoming issues due to infection.

Even if it were just the dementia issue.... the damage is done.

It’s fine. Until it’s not.
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Scientists believe that the latest global surges are resultants of the triple mutation variant... [link to thelogicalindian.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


To summarize: "We don't know or have any real evidence but looking at case data and the few sequenced samples we have, these mutations might be a problem."

More then a year in and we are still constantly playing catch-up in regards to science and Russian Roulette in regards to air travel.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


And in the mean time I am going to have to find you the case studies.... the odds are unfortunately too damn high for the upcoming issues due to infection.

Even if it were just the dementia issue.... the damage is done.

It’s fine. Until it’s not.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I'm still going with some of the same base assumptions from a while ago:

-Roughly 1-2% short term IFR depending on healthcare quality, up to 5% with absence thereof. Demographics will mess with this as FR increases with age.
-Visible long term effects in ~10%, diagnosable but invisible long term effects in probably 20%. Impossible to tell if they resolve and if they have a effect on possible reinfection but both are likely.
-I'm mostly ignoring increasing transmissibility because i'm assuming we'll reach 100% if not higher. The biggest factor of importance is the speed of getting there and whether vaccine's will push down severe cases.
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Scientists believe that the latest global surges are resultants of the triple mutation variant... [link to thelogicalindian.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


To summarize: "We don't know or have any real evidence but looking at case data and the few sequenced samples we have, these mutations might be a problem."

More then a year in and we are still constantly playing catch-up in regards to science and Russian Roulette in regards to air travel.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


And in the mean time I am going to have to find you the case studies.... the odds are unfortunately too damn high for the upcoming issues due to infection.

Even if it were just the dementia issue.... the damage is done.

It’s fine. Until it’s not.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I'm still going with some of the same base assumptions from a while ago:

-Roughly 1-2% short term IFR depending on healthcare quality, up to 5% with absence thereof. Demographics will mess with this as FR increases with age.
-Visible long term effects in ~10%, diagnosable but invisible long term effects in probably 20%. Impossible to tell if they resolve and if they have a effect on possible reinfection but both are likely.
-I'm mostly ignoring increasing transmissibility because i'm assuming we'll reach 100% if not higher. The biggest factor of importance is the speed of getting there and whether vaccine's will push down severe cases.
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More Invisible long term effects are being added and are looking to be activated much later like herpes zoster. .... sooooo many factors.

I am in a pain cycle, but by Saturday night I have time to do a one pager with a page of citations.

The vaccines..... oh man.... the odds are high they do what immunodeficiency folks and mononucleo antibodies do.... mutation factories.
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That is awesome, SC. My problem is the other end.... and.....

And damn it.... I have practiced all year. I cannot wear a mask for more than 15 minutes. And maybe three times tops with a couple hours in between.
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umm CC when have u went outside and left your house for 15mins in all of 2020-21???

what mask have u tried? half face mask or just the N -95?
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


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Scientists believe that the latest global surges are resultants of the triple mutation variant... [link to thelogicalindian.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


i'm holding out for the spider vaversion- 8 mutations in 1.
wait til deci gets here, she will decimate us.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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That is awesome, SC. My problem is the other end.... and.....

And damn it.... I have practiced all year. I cannot wear a mask for more than 15 minutes. And maybe three times tops with a couple hours in between.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


umm CC when have u went outside and left your house for 15mins in all of 2020-21???

what mask have u tried? half face mask or just the N -95?
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I would love to have taken a walk.....

Just the ones that I made. I checked my oxygen levels.... they were fine. Just something triggers an immune response and I have an asthma attack.

I have never been able to wear the other masks.... not even the anti flu yellow ones more than 2 minutes....it’s weird.

Grrrrr.
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But the Olympics will be a GO!

Stupid nips.
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we have a new variant R-1,likes old age homes. KENTUCKY. name it Rural or Redneck?

so much for the 90+% suycess rates.

"25.4% of vaccinated residents and 7.1% of vaccinated HCP were infected"

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JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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[link to skillednursingnews.com (secure)]
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Im home this morning. So the experience of a hospital ICU during a pandemic was surreal. Our relative was slowly fading last night. No update yet this morning but it wont be long now. She had begun drawing up yesterday before we left to visit the funeral home to get that ball rolling. The point of this post is about the reasons we left yesterday.

At around one pm a nurse came into the room and informed me and my mother-in-law that all visitors from the hospice wing had to vacate as they were bringing two critical Covid patients in for palliative care.

My sister-in-law (bless her heart /s) was a little indignant when we told her because "we have been vaccinated. Why do we have to leave??". The wife then explained about exactly the limits of the shots are and how that is why she and i remained masked up with eye protection the whole trip. Why we stayed in a room away from everyone. Why we didn't hang out with them in the family rooms at the hospital and instead either went to the car or lingered outside until our next rotation to sit with our relative.

Her response was, "Well, K (me) is kind of liberal and believes everything." My wife just sighed and said, "...yeah.".

Well, we did our best in a grave situation. Now will be the funeral with these dummies within the week. In our relatives funeral plans (very thorough btw), she asked for me and her son to be the lead pallbearers so I absolutely have to attend.
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My thoughts are with you Liftchap
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And our love! prayers
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Thank you all. God, I hate to say this but it felt good to go on a road trip. We brought food and we only stopped for fuel (pay at pump). Wife had to use the loo twice as she cant free Willy into the bushes like me...and while Love's truckstops are sketchy for a variety of reasons, the ass-on-toilet scenario was the most unnerving. But, regardless, driving through Arkansas, Oklahoma and up into the foothills of the Ozarks into Missouri in Springtime was glorious after staying local for a year.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Sending love and prayers your way, EG. Sorry about your relative and that whole hospice situation. I am glad you were able to find some joy in the journey there. Sincerely hoping you find some peace in the journey back home after the funeral.

hf
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Dr Eric on India with useful graphics on mortality

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The cases are also more than reported !!!!


Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Everyone is at different places in the US.... like Iowa is so far flat, but too damn high for comfort. And I can’t wrap my head around the 40k hospitalizations in Georgia.

State health experts: Washington seeing beginning of 4th wave of COVID-19 cases

Less than 50%

“Our cases rates are increasing in all age groups, except those who are 70 years of age and above," Washington State Health Secretary Dr. Umair Shah said. "Our sharpest increase are in those that are in their teens – starting with age 10 and above to age 59."

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Has anyone checked to see of the people that took vaxxes and died who had 5g?
Not anutter cig nature.
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Oh man. The honor issues..... the Olympic fail..... no ones fault.... gonna get ugly over that.
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How do you 'accidentally' give six times the advised doseage?? A single syringe can't even fit that much surely... Are these prisoners being used as guinea pigs?


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How can AstraZeneca cause blood clots?

We don't know for sure, but, as Dr Linden explained, experts have a few theories which are backed by evidence.

"There's some good data to suggest [the AstraZeneca vaccine] is creating an inappropriate immune reaction against a protein that's found in blood platelets called platelet factor 4," he said.

Platelet factor 4, or PF4, allows blood cells to communicate with each other.

Normally, our immune system recognises PF4 as nothing to worry about, but in the case of heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, the body mounts an immune response against PF4.

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How do you 'accidentally' give six times the advised doseage?? A single syringe can't even fit that much surely... Are these prisoners being used as guinea pigs?



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Brain. Drain.
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How can AstraZeneca cause blood clots?

We don't know for sure, but, as Dr Linden explained, experts have a few theories which are backed by evidence.

"There's some good data to suggest [the AstraZeneca vaccine] is creating an inappropriate immune reaction against a protein that's found in blood platelets called platelet factor 4," he said.

Platelet factor 4, or PF4, allows blood cells to communicate with each other.

Normally, our immune system recognises PF4 as nothing to worry about, but in the case of heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, the body mounts an immune response against PF4.

[link to www.abc.net.au (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


I have never wanted to yell so much in my life.... they refuse to see the extra MK CELLS....

Way more folks have been infected....so the immune response triggers the MK cells and voooooolaw....... platelets and CLOTTING.... even in the brain.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr
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Oh man. The honor issues..... the Olympic fail..... no ones fault.... gonna get ugly over that.
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https://imgur.com/21DPF0d
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Unfortunately.
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How can AstraZeneca cause blood clots?

We don't know for sure, but, as Dr Linden explained, experts have a few theories which are backed by evidence.

"There's some good data to suggest [the AstraZeneca vaccine] is creating an inappropriate immune reaction against a protein that's found in blood platelets called platelet factor 4," he said.

Platelet factor 4, or PF4, allows blood cells to communicate with each other.

Normally, our immune system recognises PF4 as nothing to worry about, but in the case of heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, the body mounts an immune response against PF4.

[link to www.abc.net.au (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


I have never wanted to yell so much in my life.... they refuse to see the extra MK CELLS....

Way more folks have been infected....so the immune response triggers the MK cells and voooooolaw....... platelets and CLOTTING.... even in the brain.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr
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:)

All they have is a number of theories right now. The MK cells might be one of their theories.
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The Le Figaro publication in France is reporting an area of France, Creuse, where 33% of the cases picked up in the genomic sequencing are of the South African and Brazilian variants. This represents a 141% increase in the past seven days. There are two clusters involving these variants identified in nursing homes despite the vaccination of all residents...


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Indian police officer came down with fever and breathlessess on Tuesday evening. He was admitted to hospital where he tested positive for Covid. The hospital sent him home for quarantine, but he died the next day...

Oh... and he had his second jab in March.


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The different lineages of sarscov2 that have evolved over time...







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