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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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Don't forget no FAP and semen retention. That helps as semen contains astral soul content.
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This I can agree with.


The astral parasites want idiots to keep having sex to keep them occupied. Its one of their new control mechanisms.
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True. However within the right circumstances heterosexual sex, yet with semen retention, could positively charge, what you’ve called your astral soul content.


UBERQUEER is a threat to their nwo.
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THE HOLLYWOOD INITIATES PUT IT OUT THERE.

THE AWAKENING MIND FINDS THE LONG HIDDEN TRUTH.

JANEWAY VERSUS ARCHON:


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Well they have to say the truth in order to make their slavery legal. Why do you think they put out movies like the matrix and Jupiter ascending? It voids them of karma and consequences. We are dealing with state of the art evil. We will need outside intervention from a galactic government at this point.
This has gone in for far too long.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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THE HOLLYWOOD INITIATES PUT IT OUT THERE.

THE AWAKENING MIND FINDS THE LONG HIDDEN TRUTH.

JANEWAY VERSUS ARCHON:


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Well they have to say the truth in order to make their slavery legal. Why do you think they put out movies like the matrix and Jupiter ascending? It voids them of karma and consequences. We are dealing with state of the art evil. We will need outside intervention from a galactic government at this point.
This has gone in for far too long.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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Once again, Jesus was plagiarized from the Horus god of Egyptian mythology. If you want to announce a savior, at least announce the original one. Why would you profess faith in the copy of another god? Makes no sense to me.
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Good answer, OP.

I have a question about reincarnation. For me, reincarnation does not exist, if you erase a person's memories, you kill him, because memories are the main attribute of a conscious being. The person who believes in reincarnation says: I am going to die and reincarnate like someone else. I say: Either you are you, or you are someone else, this "reincarnating as someone else" thing does not make sense, metaphysically speaking.
My question is this: When the person's memories are erased, are they lost forever or are they somewhere in the unconscious/subconscious?
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HI. THE IMAGES AND MEMORIES STILL EXIST WITHIN THE DEEP SUBCONSCIOUS. SOMETIMES PIECES OF THESE MEMORIES LEAK INTO THE DREAMSTATE AND THE CONSCIOUS MIND.

THE ARCHONS ARE WIPING THE CONSCIOUS MIND AND HAVE BASICALLY PERFECTED THE PROCESS THROUGH PRACTICE ON MILLIONS OF HUMAN VICTIMS. THEY CANNOT WIPE THE SUBCONSCIOUS, BUT REALLY DO NOT NEED TO, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF HUMANS ARE MOSTLY DISCONNECTED FROM THE SUBCONSCIOUS AND COMPLETELY FIXATED ON THE PROJECTED REALITY THEY SEE "OUT THERE".

MEMORY ERASE IS THE KEY TO THE ENSLAVEMENT OF HUMANITY. IF PEOPLE HAVE COMPLETE ACCESS TO THE MEMORY OF THE PRE REINCARNATION PERIOD THEY WOULD REBEL AND END THIS MADNESS.

THIS IS WHY THE ARCHONS HAD TO CREATE THE WHOLE "KARMIC DEBT" AND "EARTH SCHOOL" SCAMS. THIS ENABLED THEM TO GET THEIR VICTIMS TO AGREE TO MEMORY ERASE IN BELIEF THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL FOR THEIR "SOUL GROWTH". THIS BRUTALLY PSYCHOTIC SCAM HAS BEEN UNCHALLENGED FOR A LONG TIME. NEW AGE PROGRAMMING HAS TAKEN OVER FOR RELIGIOUS BASED MIND CONTROL IN MOLDING AND SOLIDIFYING THE PERFECT VICTIMS WHO IN THEIR IGNORANCE ACTUALLY PRAISE AND KNEEL TO THEIR OPPRESSORS.

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Fearmongering... Just because your soul orb is reused does not make it mind wiped... You are no more the vehicle that you use to travel in than you are your car. There are two 3D books of your life. One is the entirety of your life with both your loving and less than loving intentions and motives. The second is the filtered version of you that has been scrubbed of its less than loving intentions and motives.
You who want to drag your less than loving intentions and motives from life to life are the sickness that causes death and dying. If you are ready to exit this prison dimension then you need do no more than forsake your less than loving intentions and motives then choose instead realms where others go who are like minded. As soon as you choose to meddle in the worlds where your less than loving intentions and motives reside... your light diminishes and you will fall again... back into your soul cage...

Power to control others against their will is the root of your sickness. You choose to reincarnate because you want what others have. Instead of becoming someone who the other would want to share with you what they have, you want what they have and want to take it from them, without their approval. You are as pirates or rapists. You reincarnate not because you are forced to but rather...because you don’t play well with others. It is not something you can not change... Every child who is taught that sharing is good is taught well... but you who want to take against the other’s will will continue in Groundhog Day every life until you break your spirit of greed and jealousy.

If you have a greedy and jealous spirit and you have not rid yourself of these traits, why would you believe you would not lower your light to re-enter a body of lower light, where you can take and steal what you want?
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WHAT ARE TALKING ABOUT? I AM TRYING TO LIBERATE OTHERS YOU MORON.

YOU ARE SPEWING MORE NEW AGE MIND CONTROL. THE ARCHONS WILL CONSIDER YOU A "PRIME SUCKER" DURING THE PRE REINCARNTION SOUL CONTRACT SCAM.

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I have been down the same path as you. I was recruited to be a light worker but ultimately rejected that yoke as those, I cared about were attacked by dark energies attempting to attack me. Many years later,
I fired the angels, who were allegedly supposed to protect me. The so called angels dragged me though decades of suffering. I chose instead to
Only have oversight or spiritual assistance from entities who have my best interest at heart. And any lessons they felt they need me to learn were then
to be gentle lessons. Whatever it is who contracts with us... released me from being a warrior and allowed me to go on my own path... That path is kindness... Kindness is not a religion or New Age Movement. Kindness is simply the golden ticket to escape the grip of the Demiurge and Archon control systems.

You can pretend to be a Gnostic Guru but if your intentions are not loving and kind, you are just a recruiter, for the creation of the next batch of Archons. You might want to learn critical thinking, looking inside your own dogmatic convictions, and learn the lesson of kindness, before you begin attempting to lead others out of one soul trap but then into another.
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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
it's obvious that you have been talking to the minions of god, in the "astral plane" because you are parroting their nonsense ... straight from god's script

have any of "them" told you why you were created - what your true origins are... or why you are here NOW ? or how to get out of "the loop" and move into the next dimension of life... or is all you desire, fame and fortune? has any of their advice actually helped your fellow man - or are you assisting them by providing more victims for them to deceive... with the same ole lies that stroke your ego?

"reincarnation" (for lack of a better word) is not punishment - it is a gift - it gives you another opportunity to finish what you came here to do - by giving you another body (until you know how to immortalize the one you are in)so that you can gain knowledge via personal experience

no one who is as ignorant as you - of what IS, is here for the first time ...even they wouldn't be fooled by the realms of the Human Mind System and those who dwell therein because they have watched them destroy those seeking short cuts or trying to elevate themselves using "hidden knowledge" (if you know it, it ain't hidden and you aint "special")- for millennia ... even the ass-ended-Masters know that you need a physical body to move into the next dimension ... that's why they seek your invitation to share your body with you and damn your progress... they believe it gives them a soul (access to Our Creator) - but the soul is repulsed by them and the things they want to do while in your body - they are only returned to their own realm at death ... and then you get a new body, and hopefully know better than to let them into your life again because they aren't leaving once they are invited in - anything is better than being a minion of god.. they only wish they could be you - even for a little while but they are so jealous of Humans, they can't control their desire to see you as miserable as they are


... did you ever ask them why they aren't in "Heaven" ... why they are stuck catering to the ignorant instead of fellowshipping with their god in the "after-life" LOL

the answer is, that deceiving you IS the purpose of their creation. They are not Human, never have been and never will be - the "astral plane" is as close as they will ever get to heaven ... at least your grandparents we smart enough not to let these soul-less entities into their bodies ... even though they did serve god - and were disappointed by his false promises of a reward for being "good and faithful servants" ... they'll know better in their next "life-time" than to waste their time worshiping him or striving for a place in "heaven" (where they don't belong).

live and learn ... the best is yet to come for those who follow their hearts and appreciate LIFE's many dimensions and are focused on developing their full potential as unique, independent, self-created Immortal beings as Our Creator intended.
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Wow the last two posts above me sound like angry frustrated people who refuse to accept what they are hearing from the OP. I personally don’t like the grim fate that awaits us in the afterlife, but nobody ever said medicine was tasty...

Let’s see what the OP says about this.
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THE HOLLYWOOD INITIATES PUT IT OUT THERE.

THE AWAKENING MIND FINDS THE LONG HIDDEN TRUTH.

JANEWAY VERSUS ARCHON:


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Well they have to say the truth in order to make their slavery legal. Why do you think they put out movies like the matrix and Jupiter ascending? It voids them of karma and consequences. We are dealing with state of the art evil. We will need outside intervention from a galactic government at this point.
This has gone in for far too long.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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Once again, Jesus was plagiarized from the Horus god of Egyptian mythology. If you want to announce a savior, at least announce the original one. Why would you profess faith in the copy of another god? Makes no sense to me.
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strangenotions.com/horus-manure/
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Well they have to say the truth in order to make their slavery legal. Why do you think they put out movies like the matrix and Jupiter ascending? It voids them of karma and consequences. We are dealing with state of the art evil. We will need outside intervention from a galactic government at this point.
This has gone in for far too long.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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Once again, Jesus was plagiarized from the Horus god of Egyptian mythology. If you want to announce a savior, at least announce the original one. Why would you profess faith in the copy of another god? Makes no sense to me.
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strangenotions.com/horus-manure/
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The link you posted is heavily biased in favor of Christianity. Most of his so called debunking consists of pointing out the fact that Horus and Jesus characters were not “exactly” the same. There were minor differences between their two histories. But if you were the elite attempting to control the world, would you copy another myth word for word? If anything, your link actually supports the theory a sinister group has plagiarized Jesus from Horus.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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Once again, Jesus was plagiarized from the Horus god of Egyptian mythology. If you want to announce a savior, at least announce the original one. Why would you profess faith in the copy of another god? Makes no sense to me.
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strangenotions.com/horus-manure/
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The link you posted is heavily biased in favor of Christianity. Most of his so called debunking consists of pointing out the fact that Horus and Jesus characters were not “exactly” the same. There were minor differences between their two histories. But if you were the elite attempting to control the world, would you copy another myth word for word? If anything, your link actually supports the theory a sinister group has plagiarized Jesus from Horus.
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I guess we see it differently and thats alright.
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EVERYONE WHO HAS VISITED THIS THREAD ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO READ THESE TWO ARTICLES BY CAMERON DAY.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL KNOWLEDGE:

PART 1 [link to www.ascensionhelp.com]



PLEASE READ BOTH PARTS. IT IS THAT IMPORTANT.


PART 2 [link to www.ascensionhelp.com]

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I am reading the articles little by little, but one thing I found strange. I work with computers, with artificial intelligence, I know that an artificial intelligence can only be created by a real intelligence, an artificial intelligence cannot be created from nothing. The question is: Who created the demiurge, and, more importantly, who gave him power over human souls ???

The article says that the demiurge is an "entropic system". Those who study physics know what an entropic system is. Entropy is the opposite of organization, everything entropic perishes by itself, there would be no need or effort to destroy it, because entropy is the self-destruction in progress. How could an entropic system survive for so many thousands of years? All of this makes less and less sense to me. I like this thread, but the information contained here ends up becoming self-contradictory and this indicates that there is something wrong with this narrative.

Another problem: "ascensionhelp" ..... Ascension is a famous motto of the new age religions .... I'm sorry to say, but there is no such thing as "ascension", this is a big nonsense.
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Expanding your consciousness might be one possible way to exit this matrix. It’s kind of like bending the system to your own set of rules. After all, we live in a simulation, and we are all co creators right? Maybe this is the reason why the elite force bad diet and fear into our reality so much, it’s because we can manifest our own reality without having to actually leave it. We just need to change our perception and vibration.


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GRANDPA AND GRANNIE WORKED THEIR WHOLE LIVES. THEY WERE CARING CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS OBEYED AND NEVER QUESTIONED REALITY.

THEY WERE VERY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO DID REGULAR BIBLE STUDY AND WENT TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.

AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH THEY SAW IMAGES OF DEPARTED LOVED ONES AND THEY EAGERLY ENTERED THE BEAUTIFUL WHITE LIGHT.

THEY WERE THEN SHOCKED TO SEE THE AFTERLIFE LOOKED VERY SIMILAR TO THE PHYSICAL WORLD. THERE IS BARS, STORES, HOUSES AND BUILDINGS.

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I think that you need to all walk like Egyptians while I go and buy some angry marijuanas at Trump's marijuana factory.

If you need help, Susana is around here somewhere..
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LOOKING AROUND AT THE PEOPLE ARGUING FIGHTING OR HAVING SEX IN THE OPEN:


THEY ASKED "WHERE IS GOD AND THE ANGELS?"

WHERE IS THE INCREDIBLE BEAUTY WE WERE ALWAYS PROMISED?

THE COUNSELORS RESPONDED "YOU ARE NOT YET WORTHY TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. YOU MADE MISTAKES DURING LIFE AND THIS CREATED KARMIC DEBT THAT YOU BOTH NOW OWE AND MUST BALANCE AND PAY BACK".

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What they saw was the Old Empire's soul amnesia trap system, which was put in place by a rogue secret society around 30,000 years ago known as the Brothers of the Serpent or Priesthood of Amun in ancient times. The 'light' is an electric shock which wipes the memory of your last life and then you are shown to your new life back on prison planet earth. We have all been recycling on Earth for a long time, though none of us originated on this planet. There are ways to escape the soul amnesia trap. Choose the void and not the light. Everything you experience in your biosuit is part of the trap.

You are an immortal spiritual being and will regain your entire memory.
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I am reading the articles little by little, but one thing I found strange. I work with computers, with artificial intelligence, I know that an artificial intelligence can only be created by a real intelligence, an artificial intelligence cannot be created from nothing. The question is: Who created the demiurge, and, more importantly, who gave him power over human souls ???
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Here’s your basic wikipedia answer:

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In most versions of the Gnostic mythos, it is Sophia who brings about this instability in the Pleroma, in turn bringing about the creation of materiality. According to some Gnostic texts, the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy or, in another tradition, because she tries to breach the barrier between herself and the unknowable Bythos. After cataclysmically falling from the Pleroma, Sophia's fear and anguish of losing her life (just as she lost the light of the One) causes confusion and longing to return to it. Because of these longings, matter (Greek: hyle) and soul (Greek: psyche) accidentally come into existence. The creation of the Demiurge (also known as Yaldabaoth, "Son of Chaos") is also a mistake made during this exile. The Demiurge proceeds to create the physical world in which we live, ignorant of Sophia, who nevertheless manages to infuse some spiritual spark or pneuma into his creation.
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Which looks to me to be simply restating exactly what is in the Gnostic texts.

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As long was they weren’t reincarnated as GLPers they should be fine.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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Expanding your consciousness might be one possible way to exit this matrix. It’s kind of like bending the system to your own set of rules. After all, we live in a simulation, and we are all co creators right? Maybe this is the reason why the elite force bad diet and fear into our reality so much, it’s because we can manifest our own reality without having to actually leave it. We just need to change our perception and vibration.


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Maybe instead of wrath and anger and fear we need to emanate love and kindness and compassion - toward all things, including the archons??????? I agree with you that we can't live our lives in fear as this only lowers our vibration. Sorry for the half-formed thought. After reading it, it isn't coming out sensibly at all...... I just mean that if we spend our lives angry and fearful, we're lowering our vibration. But me, personally, to not live my life angry and in fear, I have to not dwell on the horrible possibilities of what might happen to me or anyone after death. Maybe we're not supposed to. Maybe we're just supposed to be so concerned with raising our vibration and living lives of love, joy, peace, etc. that after death, maybe our vibration will be so high that we just float ... away from the horrible astral environment described by OP .... to a higher realm. Ok, no laughing. :). I haven't watched the video you linked but I'm about to.
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Expanding your consciousness might be one possible way to exit this matrix. It’s kind of like bending the system to your own set of rules. After all, we live in a simulation, and we are all co creators right? Maybe this is the reason why the elite force bad diet and fear into our reality so much, it’s because we can manifest our own reality without having to actually leave it. We just need to change our perception and vibration.


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Maybe instead of wrath and anger and fear we need to emanate love and kindness and compassion - toward all things, including the archons??????? I agree with you that we can't live our lives in fear as this only lowers our vibration. Sorry for the half-formed thought. After reading it, it isn't coming out sensibly at all...... I just mean that if we spend our lives angry and fearful, we're lowering our vibration. But me, personally, to not live my life angry and in fear, I have to not dwell on the horrible possibilities of what might happen to me or anyone after death. Maybe we're not supposed to. Maybe we're just supposed to be so concerned with raising our vibration and living lives of love, joy, peace, etc. that after death, maybe our vibration will be so high that we just float ... away from the horrible astral environment described by OP .... to a higher realm. Ok, no laughing. :). I haven't watched the video you linked but I'm about to.
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sorry for double post, not sure what happened there.
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Think about the word “archangel” and “archon”. See a resemblance?
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THE HOLLYWOOD INITIATES PUT IT OUT THERE.

THE AWAKENING MIND FINDS THE LONG HIDDEN TRUTH.

JANEWAY VERSUS ARCHON:


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Well they have to say the truth in order to make their slavery legal. Why do you think they put out movies like the matrix and Jupiter ascending? It voids them of karma and consequences. We are dealing with state of the art evil. We will need outside intervention from a galactic government at this point.
This has gone in for far too long.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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Once again, Jesus was plagiarized from the Horus god of Egyptian mythology. If you want to announce a savior, at least announce the original one. Why would you profess faith in the copy of another god? Makes no sense to me.
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This is from the movie Zeitgeist, not a good source of information. Nothing against you believing this Horus thing, but look for other sources.
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HI. THE IMAGES AND MEMORIES STILL EXIST WITHIN THE DEEP SUBCONSCIOUS. SOMETIMES PIECES OF THESE MEMORIES LEAK INTO THE DREAMSTATE AND THE CONSCIOUS MIND.

THE ARCHONS ARE WIPING THE CONSCIOUS MIND AND HAVE BASICALLY PERFECTED THE PROCESS THROUGH PRACTICE ON MILLIONS OF HUMAN VICTIMS. THEY CANNOT WIPE THE SUBCONSCIOUS, BUT REALLY DO NOT NEED TO, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF HUMANS ARE MOSTLY DISCONNECTED FROM THE SUBCONSCIOUS AND COMPLETELY FIXATED ON THE PROJECTED REALITY THEY SEE "OUT THERE".

MEMORY ERASE IS THE KEY TO THE ENSLAVEMENT OF HUMANITY. IF PEOPLE HAVE COMPLETE ACCESS TO THE MEMORY OF THE PRE REINCARNATION PERIOD THEY WOULD REBEL AND END THIS MADNESS.

THIS IS WHY THE ARCHONS HAD TO CREATE THE WHOLE "KARMIC DEBT" AND "EARTH SCHOOL" SCAMS. THIS ENABLED THEM TO GET THEIR VICTIMS TO AGREE TO MEMORY ERASE IN BELIEF THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL FOR THEIR "SOUL GROWTH". THIS BRUTALLY PSYCHOTIC SCAM HAS BEEN UNCHALLENGED FOR A LONG TIME. NEW AGE PROGRAMMING HAS TAKEN OVER FOR RELIGIOUS BASED MIND CONTROL IN MOLDING AND SOLIDIFYING THE PERFECT VICTIMS WHO IN THEIR IGNORANCE ACTUALLY PRAISE AND KNEEL TO THEIR OPPRESSORS.

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Fearmongering... Just because your soul orb is reused does not make it mind wiped... You are no more the vehicle that you use to travel in than you are your car. There are two 3D books of your life. One is the entirety of your life with both your loving and less than loving intentions and motives. The second is the filtered version of you that has been scrubbed of its less than loving intentions and motives.
You who want to drag your less than loving intentions and motives from life to life are the sickness that causes death and dying. If you are ready to exit this prison dimension then you need do no more than forsake your less than loving intentions and motives then choose instead realms where others go who are like minded. As soon as you choose to meddle in the worlds where your less than loving intentions and motives reside... your light diminishes and you will fall again... back into your soul cage...

Power to control others against their will is the root of your sickness. You choose to reincarnate because you want what others have. Instead of becoming someone who the other would want to share with you what they have, you want what they have and want to take it from them, without their approval. You are as pirates or rapists. You reincarnate not because you are forced to but rather...because you don’t play well with others. It is not something you can not change... Every child who is taught that sharing is good is taught well... but you who want to take against the other’s will will continue in Groundhog Day every life until you break your spirit of greed and jealousy.

If you have a greedy and jealous spirit and you have not rid yourself of these traits, why would you believe you would not lower your light to re-enter a body of lower light, where you can take and steal what you want?
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WHAT ARE TALKING ABOUT? I AM TRYING TO LIBERATE OTHERS YOU MORON.

YOU ARE SPEWING MORE NEW AGE MIND CONTROL. THE ARCHONS WILL CONSIDER YOU A "PRIME SUCKER" DURING THE PRE REINCARNTION SOUL CONTRACT SCAM.

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I have been down the same path as you. I was recruited to be a light worker but ultimately rejected that yoke as those, I cared about were attacked by dark energies attempting to attack me. Many years later,
I fired the angels, who were allegedly supposed to protect me. The so called angels dragged me though decades of suffering. I chose instead to
Only have oversight or spiritual assistance from entities who have my best interest at heart. And any lessons they felt they need me to learn were then
to be gentle lessons. Whatever it is who contracts with us... released me from being a warrior and allowed me to go on my own path... That path is kindness... Kindness is not a religion or New Age Movement. Kindness is simply the golden ticket to escape the grip of the Demiurge and Archon control systems.

You can pretend to be a Gnostic Guru but if your intentions are not loving and kind, you are just a recruiter, for the creation of the next batch of Archons. You might want to learn critical thinking, looking inside your own dogmatic convictions, and learn the lesson of kindness, before you begin attempting to lead others out of one soul trap but then into another.
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I'm with you bro.
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Wow the last two posts above me sound like angry frustrated people who refuse to accept what they are hearing from the OP. I personally don’t like the grim fate that awaits us in the afterlife, but nobody ever said medicine was tasty...

Let’s see what the OP says about this.
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You over-trust the things OP says. I do not say that he is right or wrong, but he is not the only one who makes astral journeys and his narrative is not the only one. Give yourself a chance to get to know other perspectives.
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I am reading the articles little by little, but one thing I found strange. I work with computers, with artificial intelligence, I know that an artificial intelligence can only be created by a real intelligence, an artificial intelligence cannot be created from nothing. The question is: Who created the demiurge, and, more importantly, who gave him power over human souls ???
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In most versions of the Gnostic mythos, it is Sophia who brings about this instability in the Pleroma, in turn bringing about the creation of materiality. According to some Gnostic texts, the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy or, in another tradition, because she tries to breach the barrier between herself and the unknowable Bythos. After cataclysmically falling from the Pleroma, Sophia's fear and anguish of losing her life (just as she lost the light of the One) causes confusion and longing to return to it. Because of these longings, matter (Greek: hyle) and soul (Greek: psyche) accidentally come into existence. The creation of the Demiurge (also known as Yaldabaoth, "Son of Chaos") is also a mistake made during this exile. The Demiurge proceeds to create the physical world in which we live, ignorant of Sophia, who nevertheless manages to infuse some spiritual spark or pneuma into his creation.
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Which looks to me to be simply restating exactly what is in the Gnostic texts.
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Gnosticism is a very stupid doctrine, I don't know how there are people who still believe in it.
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I am reading the articles little by little, but one thing I found strange. I work with computers, with artificial intelligence, I know that an artificial intelligence can only be created by a real intelligence, an artificial intelligence cannot be created from nothing. The question is: Who created the demiurge, and, more importantly, who gave him power over human souls ???
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In most versions of the Gnostic mythos, it is Sophia who brings about this instability in the Pleroma, in turn bringing about the creation of materiality. According to some Gnostic texts, the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy or, in another tradition, because she tries to breach the barrier between herself and the unknowable Bythos. After cataclysmically falling from the Pleroma, Sophia's fear and anguish of losing her life (just as she lost the light of the One) causes confusion and longing to return to it. Because of these longings, matter (Greek: hyle) and soul (Greek: psyche) accidentally come into existence. The creation of the Demiurge (also known as Yaldabaoth, "Son of Chaos") is also a mistake made during this exile. The Demiurge proceeds to create the physical world in which we live, ignorant of Sophia, who nevertheless manages to infuse some spiritual spark or pneuma into his creation.
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Which looks to me to be simply restating exactly what is in the Gnostic texts.
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Gnosticism is a very stupid doctrine, I don't know how there are people who still believe in it.
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Everyone has their different views on things. I don't think it's stupid, I think it's another way to attempt to understand why the world is the way it is. Let's put it this way - it doesn't sound any more outlandish than many other theories floating around..... The Gnostics (think: Cathars) were obliterated by the Catholic Church -- obviously the Gnostics posed a threat to the Catholic Church which tells me right there, they probably had at least a kernel of truth in their beliefs.
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Expanding your consciousness might be one possible way to exit this matrix. It’s kind of like bending the system to your own set of rules. After all, we live in a simulation, and we are all co creators right? Maybe this is the reason why the elite force bad diet and fear into our reality so much, it’s because we can manifest our own reality without having to actually leave it. We just need to change our perception and vibration.


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Maybe instead of wrath and anger and fear we need to emanate love and kindness and compassion - toward all things, including the archons??????? I agree with you that we can't live our lives in fear as this only lowers our vibration. Sorry for the half-formed thought. After reading it, it isn't coming out sensibly at all...... I just mean that if we spend our lives angry and fearful, we're lowering our vibration. But me, personally, to not live my life angry and in fear, I have to not dwell on the horrible possibilities of what might happen to me or anyone after death. Maybe we're not supposed to. Maybe we're just supposed to be so concerned with raising our vibration and living lives of love, joy, peace, etc. that after death, maybe our vibration will be so high that we just float ... away from the horrible astral environment described by OP .... to a higher realm. Ok, no laughing. :). I haven't watched the video you linked but I'm about to.
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I agree with you. If we are slaves to the Archons it is because, in some way, we allow it because of our low vibration. Nothing is by chance. A person must live in the best way he can, what will happen in the afterlife, or even in this life, in some way it is already traced, whatever has to be, will be. Worrying and trying to find ways to escape ends up becoming another form of slavery that is even more painful. How many people read this thread and went into depression, discouragement and even suicidal ideas? Who is interested in such vibrations but the demiurge himself? We are all in the same boat, in the same way we look out for each other, I say that there are good entities that also help us, the astral cannot be just darkness, it makes no sense.
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Well they have to say the truth in order to make their slavery legal. Why do you think they put out movies like the matrix and Jupiter ascending? It voids them of karma and consequences. We are dealing with state of the art evil. We will need outside intervention from a galactic government at this point.
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Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.
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Once again, Jesus was plagiarized from the Horus god of Egyptian mythology. If you want to announce a savior, at least announce the original one. Why would you profess faith in the copy of another god? Makes no sense to me.
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This is from the movie Zeitgeist, not a good source of information. Nothing against you believing this Horus thing, but look for other sources.
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Okay mr know it all anonymous. Nice try why don’t u confirm it for yourself. I’m not gonna do the work for you.
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I am reading the articles little by little, but one thing I found strange. I work with computers, with artificial intelligence, I know that an artificial intelligence can only be created by a real intelligence, an artificial intelligence cannot be created from nothing. The question is: Who created the demiurge, and, more importantly, who gave him power over human souls ???
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Here’s your basic wikipedia answer:

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In most versions of the Gnostic mythos, it is Sophia who brings about this instability in the Pleroma, in turn bringing about the creation of materiality. According to some Gnostic texts, the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy or, in another tradition, because she tries to breach the barrier between herself and the unknowable Bythos. After cataclysmically falling from the Pleroma, Sophia's fear and anguish of losing her life (just as she lost the light of the One) causes confusion and longing to return to it. Because of these longings, matter (Greek: hyle) and soul (Greek: psyche) accidentally come into existence. The creation of the Demiurge (also known as Yaldabaoth, "Son of Chaos") is also a mistake made during this exile. The Demiurge proceeds to create the physical world in which we live, ignorant of Sophia, who nevertheless manages to infuse some spiritual spark or pneuma into his creation.
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Which looks to me to be simply restating exactly what is in the Gnostic texts.
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Gnosticism is a very stupid doctrine, I don't know how there are people who still believe in it.
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Everyone has their different views on things. I don't think it's stupid, I think it's another way to attempt to understand why the world is the way it is. Let's put it this way - it doesn't sound any more outlandish than many other theories floating around..... The Gnostics (think: Cathars) were obliterated by the Catholic Church -- obviously the Gnostics posed a threat to the Catholic Church which tells me right there, they probably had at least a kernel of truth in their beliefs.
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The Cathars were the resurgence of the Bogomilites, who in turn descended from the Paulicians, who had relations with the Manicheans, etc., etc. The Cathars preached that life in this world was a curse, encouraged abortion and suicide, they even had a name for their ritual of suicide by starvation, the "endura". It is not by chance that they went to war with Catholics and ended up giving rise to the inquisition, they were completely crazy. Gnosticism is a doctrine that enters and leaves history all the time, with its ideas of ascensionism, initiation rites and so many other silly things, there was a new wave of gnosticism at the turn of the 19th century, Madame Blavatsky, Allan Kardec, Aleister Crowley, Theosophy, Spiritism, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry ... All of this is linked to Gnosticism. The great problem with Gnosticism is to propose that the human being, in itself, is a species of God in essence unmanifested, a God who has not yet manifested himself. This idea is so absurd and has already been put here by someone: It is Baron Munchausen saving himself from drowning by grabbing himself by the hair and pulling him out of the water.
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In most versions of the Gnostic mythos, it is Sophia who brings about this instability in the Pleroma, in turn bringing about the creation of materiality. According to some Gnostic texts, the crisis occurs as a result of Sophia trying to emanate without her syzygy or, in another tradition, because she tries to breach the barrier between herself and the unknowable Bythos. After cataclysmically falling from the Pleroma, Sophia's fear and anguish of losing her life (just as she lost the light of the One) causes confusion and longing to return to it. Because of these longings, matter (Greek: hyle) and soul (Greek: psyche) accidentally come into existence. The creation of the Demiurge (also known as Yaldabaoth, "Son of Chaos") is also a mistake made during this exile. The Demiurge proceeds to create the physical world in which we live, ignorant of Sophia, who nevertheless manages to infuse some spiritual spark or pneuma into his creation.
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Which looks to me to be simply restating exactly what is in the Gnostic texts.
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Gnosticism is a very stupid doctrine, I don't know how there are people who still believe in it.
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As with any religion, I think it would be foolish to take everything too literally.

The way I see it, the above isn’t referring to some cosmic woman outside of us named “Sophia” or some dude out there named “the Demiurge”; but is symbolic of internal processes in each individual.

Not to say it’s not also related to rebirth in this world and so on.

My theory is that the first Gnostic teachers could have been Buddha’s or Bodhisattva’s who showed the path to Awakening, but symbolically for the time & place they were teaching in.
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Which looks to me to be simply restating exactly what is in the Gnostic texts.
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Gnosticism is a very stupid doctrine, I don't know how there are people who still believe in it.
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Everyone has their different views on things. I don't think it's stupid, I think it's another way to attempt to understand why the world is the way it is. Let's put it this way - it doesn't sound any more outlandish than many other theories floating around..... The Gnostics (think: Cathars) were obliterated by the Catholic Church -- obviously the Gnostics posed a threat to the Catholic Church which tells me right there, they probably had at least a kernel of truth in their beliefs.
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The Cathars were the resurgence of the Bogomilites, who in turn descended from the Paulicians, who had relations with the Manicheans, etc., etc. The Cathars preached that life in this world was a curse, encouraged abortion and suicide, they even had a name for their ritual of suicide by starvation, the "endura". It is not by chance that they went to war with Catholics and ended up giving rise to the inquisition, they were completely crazy. Gnosticism is a doctrine that enters and leaves history all the time, with its ideas of ascensionism, initiation rites and so many other silly things, there was a new wave of gnosticism at the turn of the 19th century, Madame Blavatsky, Allan Kardec, Aleister Crowley, Theosophy, Spiritism, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry ... All of this is linked to Gnosticism. The great problem with Gnosticism is to propose that the human being, in itself, is a species of God in essence unmanifested, a God who has not yet manifested himself. This idea is so absurd and has already been put here by someone: It is Baron Munchausen saving himself from drowning by grabbing himself by the hair and pulling him out of the water.
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LOL - I see your point. I had studied Gnosticism extensively at one time and forgotten about all that extraneous nonsense. Gnosticism is a broad brush, however, and not all of the 'sects' were the same. The Gnostic idea of the earth / material existence being as a result of an error, that makes some sense.
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The Cathars were the resurgence of the Bogomilites, who in turn descended from the Paulicians, who had relations with the Manicheans, etc., etc. The Cathars preached that life in this world was a curse, encouraged abortion and suicide, they even had a name for their ritual of suicide by starvation, the "endura". It is not by chance that they went to war with Catholics and ended up giving rise to the inquisition, they were completely crazy. Gnosticism is a doctrine that enters and leaves history all the time, with its ideas of ascensionism, initiation rites and so many other silly things, there was a new wave of gnosticism at the turn of the 19th century, Madame Blavatsky, Allan Kardec, Aleister Crowley, Theosophy, Spiritism, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry ... All of this is linked to Gnosticism. The great problem with Gnosticism is to propose that the human being, in itself, is a species of God in essence unmanifested, a God who has not yet manifested himself. This idea is so absurd and has already been put here by someone: It is Baron Munchausen saving himself from drowning by grabbing himself by the hair and pulling him out of the water.
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Interesting.

But I wouldn't lump an homosexual like “Crowley” in with Blavatsky and the original Rosicrucians.

The Gnostic Samael Aun Weor in my estimation is more true to those original groups than Crowley was.

See also: Arnold Krumm-Heller.

I’ve heard of Allan Kardec, but don’t recall anything about him.

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